tranny coded hobby

>>108619797
h-huh?

>>108619819
TRANNY
CODED
HOBBY

>>108619856
it isn't my hobby. i don't give a shit about lube or thockiness and i'm not spending $400 on a case/pcb

i just want something nice to type on for the next 5-10 years

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>>108619856
right Black at you

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>"What is, is, and what is not, is not." - Parmenides of Elea
Engineered without compromise and without continuity, Ontos proposes an immutable order of the real, a unity that does not admit alterations.
>"Das Nichts selbst nichtet." - Heidegger
With Ontos, the nothing is made visible from three distances: far away, regular usage distance, and up-close.

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>>108613147
I've got a AliExpress 3d printed holy60 clone case. Sound is fine, no place to store a battery for wireless so it's taped to the pcb and it gets dusty in the gaps.

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well?

>>108620233
It's no longer 2010, you don't have to pick from blue/red/brown anymore.

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>>108619703
Thanks, doc.

>>108620233
neither
that shitty transparent top housing always sounds like ass

>>108616789
I have a keychron and it's print screen by default

>>108620233
literally anything else

go to milktooth and throw a dart at your monitor and it will be better a better choice

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>>108620233

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fucking hell

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>price says "from $7"
>click in
>base price is $60+
>the $7 price is a space bar or some other single key
i fucking hate this site

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>>108620666
>buy something
>mfw that shipping price

>>108620247
Yeah you can buy baby milky cumdrop panda clear thocky wocky box switches that are rated at 40 million clicks but probably leave the factory tested at 1,000

>>108620247
>red switch
>......
>the same exact red switch but it's different colors and called something different and made by some random company
>*pogface* I'll preorder 200!

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>>108617310
I replaced the del key, I think it's better now

>>108620740
>>108620757
You can literally get better switches from gateron which is who makes the switches shown in that chart. No excuse to be a basic bitch these days.

>>108620784
name one

>>108620740
there is no point in getting a mechanical keyboard if you are going to use the shitty stock red/brown/blue switches, brainlet newfag. just get a membrane keyboard for 20$ at this point and use it until it malfunctions after a few years and then get a new one. nothing wrong with this and the typing feel would be better compared to some basic mechanical keyboard with shitty stock switches

>>108620868
Go on milktooth then filter by "gateron". Now fuck off.

>>108620868
ink v2
oil kings
type r
baby kangaroo

>>108620894
uh oh buyers remorse from buying every switch to nitpick

>>108620918
sorry I don't respond to people who type on cherry mx switches

Should I get Gateron G Pro 3.0 Yellows to replace my keeb's Gateron KS-9 Yellow Pro (G Pro 1.0???)

I'm pretty happy with how my keychron V6 max feels, I got red switches
Here's hoping mine doesn't immediately die

>>108620666
your fault for holding delusional expectations

>>108620891
based as fuck
either man up and get the best or buy modded Cherries
nothing in between.
>>108620970
now that's premium cope
modded Cherries are the gold standard

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>>108620993
get the Fades
better internals, polished stem
mogs the fuck out of G Pro Yellow Milky whatever
so say we all.

>>108620868
oil kings
type Rs
melodics

one for each category to infinitely mog your shitty starter pokemon switches

My friend asked me "what for? " after saying that I use 10fastfingers to increase my wpm. I had no idea how to respond.

>>108621264
"why not?" is the only answer you need.

>>108621174
Fades mog Oil Kangs
it's not 2022 anymore
Baby Kangaroo 2.0s are a better pick for casuals
the Type R is an acquired taste

>>108621302
im not a linearfag so I wouldn't know. i just know everyone raved about oil kings. linears are all the same shit to me.

i stand by type rs and melodics being some of the best shit gateron has ever made

>>108621270
/thread

>>108621264
Lower delay -> higher feedback -> more productivity through faster iteration.

>>108621264
>I want to get better at touch typing because I'm not a smoothbrained tiktok addict like you who can't see the fucking obvious you fucking retard
no really
why do you have such braindead friends to begin with

damn the Outemu Switch Silent Lemon V3 was dirt ass cheap on ali

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Something similar to the space series from graystudio?

>>108621138
Way to miss the point, retard.

The point is the prices in their product listing don't match the main product sold or the picture of the product they're advertising. It also breaks sorting by price, so if you're looking for cheap base kits, it's impossible.

actuating MX Blaecks

why is 75% more popular than 80%?

>>108622880
because it's the better form factor

I've got some Kailh Box Pinks
How do Gateron Melodics differ from the click bar Box switches?

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Do Cherry MX keycaps work on Gateron switches?
Just got a Keychron v5 max (96%). Looking to get some south-facing shinethrough caps.

>>108622880
most custom mech boards are 80% TKLs anon
it's 80%/60%/65% territory
75s are barely above 40s
>>108623790
check the reviews

>buy a set of metal keycaps
>so fucking heavy they keep triggering my spacebar

I thought 57g would have been tough enough but it wont fucking recover and stays mashed down, this is bullshit.

>>108624780
that's what you get for straying from ABS

>>108624879
yeah but heavy dull sound good to brain tho

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Looking for an metal hotswap TKL that supports VIA. Barebones kit is fine. But needs at least the case and PCB.

I found these. All are aluminium unless otherwise noted. Did I forget any decent ones?
>WOBKEY Crush80 Reboot Pro: $159-$169
>Evoworks Evo80: $169.99
>MK x WOBKEY Crush80 Reboot: $175
>Keychron Lemokey L4: $184.99 ($204.99 with switches/caps)
>Neo80 Cu (brass): $266.99
There were some others (MCHOSE GX87, Keychron Q3/Pro/Max) but they're either sold out or sold out of any decent color.

>>108624886
use chonky PBT caps
the 1.7mm variety
pair it with the Y2 or Bad Sweetheart for maximum dull

>>108623790
Yes. 99% of keycap sets available will be MX compatible; meaning cherry, gateron, and every other switch manufacturer these days.

>>108624906
Whether it matters to you or not, most of those have F13 keys so the Esc/F-keys are squeezed together more than on a traditional keyboard. Just something to pay attention to. I have a Monsgeek M3 for my TKL which is metal + hotswap + VIA, but apparently they discontinued that model because these companies are FOTM retarded.

looking for suggestions for a new keyboard
>hard requirements
low profile
hotswappable switches. don't need support for other switches just easy to replace a broken one
2.4ghz dongle and bluetooth support
ability to switch between multiple paired devices. at least 2, preferably 3
reprogrammable with via or proprietary via alternative, need hold capslock > fn and ijkl arrow keys
75% layout
>would also like
volume knob with mute
linear switches
pbt keycaps
switching between devices using keys instead of a physical switch (keychron)
magnetic switches as long as the device is properly shielded. sometimes i put my keyboard on my laptop due to limited desk space and the magnets in the lid will cause my current keychron q1 to fuck up
sounds nice
isn't a fucking hassle to take apart for cleaning / stab lubing
comes in black
plastic case or at least thin metal. my keychron q1 is too fucking heavy

>>108627647
oh i forgot one more thing for the requirements
fuck the weird sleep mode on keychron where i have to press space and then start typing
just let me type normally to wake it up

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>>108626411
great grandpa was a power sander

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Still haven't found anything better than this. Out of production and my keys are getting really bad with time, been 13 years... Nothing like it found.

>>108624906
out of all of those, id say evo80 if you just want prebuilt

>>108627647
>low profile
lol

>>108619703
I kinda like the Tony’s Chocolonely look but that looks like it’s just gonna collect dust bunnies in weird places. What’s it look like with an actual keyboard inside?

>>108626411
Nice color scheme, but how do you tell the × key from the × key?

>>108628402
Not my board, just a cool looking pic.

>>108628402
no need
that's prt/scr/pause
doesn't matter what the keycap says

>>108628536
Oh
I’m a Mac guy and those three keys are something I need to look at my keyboard layout’s cheat sheet for when I plug my keyboard into a Windows or Linux machine

how do you know the pcb you're getting from chink manufacturer #841931 isn't loaded with spyware? at least with logitech there's a western country behind it you can go after and who ostensibly has an interest in not ruining their reputation

Are there any companies that make keyboard bases where it's just the PCB and metal frame and you put your own switches and keycaps on it?

>>108628689
yeah, most of them

knock yourself out
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

>>108628106
What do you like about it? I don't loke the lack of context menu key

>>108628630
via is standard and if you’re paranoid you can flash it yourself

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Speaking of VIA, am I the only one that's pissed at the fact shit like VIA or Keychron Launcher is online-only? There's zero reason not to release them as standalone Electron apps that can run offline, where you don't need to count on your browser not randomly deleting it's cache for you to be able to configure your shit, yet everyone insists on making them online-only web apps. I hate this trend so much.

Compare that to something like Vial that has a Python GUI program available for Windows, macOS and Linux, with Windows having a portable option and with the only option on Linux being AppImage so that it's completely distro agnostic. Download it once, as long as the software is on your machine you can use it indefinitely, even after the manufacturer goes out of business and shuts down their proprietary web app.

Why are keyboard manufacturers so fucking allergic to this concept of owning your hardware as well as software without the need of what's essentially always-online DRM to use the product you've paid for?

>Genesis Thor 300 TKL
switches fail within a year of purchase
>some HyperX
switches fail within a year of purchase
>Keychron V3
massive debounce problems and double-clicking in 6 months
reseating doesn't help
updating firmware and setting debounce timer to 30ms doesn't help

I wish someone made a wireless membrane keyboard with high-profile key caps so that I could buy something actually reliable

>>108629150
Fn+PrintScreen can be used for context menu, not that I ever use it.
I like the travel distance of the keys, the feeling of the keys, the palm rest, the layout of the keys.

The only way I don't like is the the F1-F12 characters don't light up by the backlight and that Logitech made it so you can't hold W+shift and press space at the same time (I hear it was intentionally to gimp it as a gaming keyboard, for whatever reason).

>>108629714
that's why I use nothing but proprietary software that installs once and doesn't need the internet to work forever
>muh open source
cope

>>108630361
it's time to save up for R2 of Geon's next bangers
be sure to source the Venom MX PCB in the meantime
it'll be the best thing ever, fuck wireless and membrane it's time to man up

MX Blacks break-in status?

>>108631303
buckbroken

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boomers deserve to be keelhauled

>EC kit confirmed for +84 TKL
TopreCHADS win again

I'm bored with 100% and TKL. I might look into a custom split board just to feel something, even if it ends up being disgust.

>>108632785
>I'm bored with 100% and TKL
That's because they're bland form factors
65%chads win again

>>108619703
Does the snake skin pattern promote healing of my illnesses, or do I need authentic snake oil for that?

Looking for a 75-80%, hotswappable, linear switches (irrelevant I'll just swap them to milky yellows anyway), volume knob and a screen with gif displaying capacity. I would ask for extra macro keys on the left too but I don't think a keyboard with all that even exists.
Maybe I should just settle for RK L75, it's too bad that it doesn't have a screen though... RK M70 would be cool if not for the lack of function keys.

man there's so much shit to comb through, anyone knows a similar keyboard like that?

>>108632785
get an F1 and build it with Topre or Alps
>but I'm BORED
fucking scrub

>>108632819
68% mogs
R5 Fn near the right thumb > R4 Fn above the right arrow
fucking trannies

>>108632848
just get the Zoom75 TIGA or the AULA F75 Max or the BlackWidow V4 Pro
they all fit the bill

>>108633014
Guessing that's a no on the left side macro buttons? I figured as much. The Epochmaker AULA F75 Max is the only one of the 3 I can find here, excluding razer I didn't even look that one up.
I will now debate whether I want the macros of RK L75 or the screen of AULA, thanks

are magnetic switches a meme
should I even bother with them

>>108632930
>Topre
Hmm maybe since I haven't tried them yet.

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>>108633719
get the bottom case cast in resin/PC/PEI/whatever for peak F1 Topre
so fucking hot

i have a cheap-ish (??) branded mkb that i got as a FREE* upgrade with a prebuilt pc i bought about 18 months ago and it's already showing wear and tear
the space bar and r key sometimes don't work and sometimes inputs double keys instead
anything i can do to fix them or what keyboard should i buy instead?

>>108633938
depends if the keyboard has mechanical switches and if it supports hotswap, if it does then just replace the faulty switches it's a simple fix on the condition that the switches are the problem and not the board
if it's not then then throw it out, unless you have soldering knowledge and equipment then it's fucked

>>108633938
rainy75

>>108634025
i only fw full size
the 100%er the better

>>108634039
there is literally no decent full size prebuilt on the market so I have no recommendation then

>>108634039
you don't need a numpad
you think you do, but you don't

>>108634046
there's this piece of shit
>https://clickclack.io/collections/new-arrival/products/in-stock-intro-s100-fully-assembled-mechanical-keyboard

>>108634144
fuck that shit
i looked up the model to see what i "saved" by getting it FREE* and i can get almost 3 more failed units at full price
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/store/item/kb-161-302
i'll probably just go amazon and get some chinkshit for even cheaper

>>108634183
ok /mkg/ which do you hate less
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRNKTCM?th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CF3VGQFL?th=1

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Help me

AAAAAA

>>108634450
>$125 in feb 2024
>$150 in feb 2025
>$189 now
So glad the tariffs didn't affect Made In America products :)

>>108634334
If I had to use one of these, then the 2nd

>>108634578
thanks, at least if it's as cheaply made as my current one then the switches are swappable and even comes with some spares

>>108620778
Still a little off. PgUp definitely wrong for its row, not sure about PgDn. It's unusual for PgUp/PgDn to fit R3/R4, usually the alternates available in a kit are for R2/R3.

What switches are you guys using right now

anyone else like it when you get thocc'd out by extra creamy long poles?

>>108635467
I want to actuate your switch haha
I just really like the feel of deep thudding long poles

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>>108635467
Right now it's morandis.

>>108635467
hmx xinhai and hmx gulf, about to try hmx valerian.

>>108635467
MX Browns, obviously

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coom/10

>>108626929
whats the purpose of the f13 key? i dont think ive ever seen a program use it. why not just call it a macro key?

I fucking hate hipyotech

>>108635717
more keys = more keycaps
it's literally just an excuse to use hideous artisans

>>108635781
he is irrelevant
based Alexotos keeps it straight
>doesn't shill wobbleshit like the Morandis
>recommends Cherry switches and stabs
>curates vendors globally which helps newbies

>>108635467
blue stars

>https://cannonkeys.com/products/nyawice
>$465
>for a basic bitch alice except extra gay and retarded
who in the hell is going to buy this piece of shit? neo ergos start at $130 lmao. there was a similar alice that kbdfans did that was dog themed and they couldn't sell it. the prebuilt version was on clearance for months for like sub $100. this cutesy tranny shit does not sell as it is and this is a whole other level of jewery

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>>108636134
do you really fucking think there isn't a subset of rich furries in this fucking hobby?
it's right there in the features

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God bless the Chinee for milking degenerates
in the free market, that's the joy of it and the hurt of it.
so say we all.

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Man, it got soggy tits

>>108633491
Do play twitchy fast paced games? If so then maybe if you've already eliminated other sources of network latency and input lag.

>>108633491
just get HE switches
worth it for counter strafing in CS or A/D spamming to get on target faster

I'm trying to find a beige/white keyboard for my set og simple ja r2 keys. I kind of just want to go tried and tested Majestouch, but I'm having a hard time sourcing one.

>>108636593
Vortex Multix 104 Autumn/Summer (When it's back in stock)

>>108634450
Retard. https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/
Get the superior buckling spring keyboards.

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When did key labels shrink and move off center?

>>108636806
>$400
AAAAAAA

maybe

>>108637108
To get worn out less.....I dunno

>>108636092
are they any good? How does the bump feel?

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How far is too far when making a keyboard compact?

I got a new Topre keyboard and I kind of love it but I want to ask.

I haven't used a membrane keyboard in years. I don't remember what they feel like.
I really like the way my Topre feels, but am I gaslighting myself into thinking Topre feels better than membrane keyboards? Or do people feel a very obvious difference between Topre and membrane?

>>108638477
they sound really good, not silent but not loud either, not mushy on bottom out. bump is top of the press with 0 pretravel like any other hmx tactile.

>>108637108
probably to print “P” in the same place no matter what else (hiragana?) gets printed on them

For people who can read, what's the best membrane keyboard?

>>108636593
Geon F1 Classic

>>108639671
Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber

>>108639671
IBM model M.
>>108640248
Topres are not membrane boards, they're rubber dome over PCB.

Bluetooth or 2.4 GHz?

>>108640382
is that even a question? 2.4ghz always

>>108640397
I'm testing both right now and can't tell the difference in latency. The keyboard is right next to the pc so there's no interference or lag spikes, so connection stability is probably the same for both (Neither have dropped connection or suffered lag spikes yet). So that leaves security and power consumption. I'm guessing 2.4 GHz should be more secure while Bluetooth consumes less power? But a quick google search shows that 2.4 GHz can also potentially have security vulnerabilities.

I've felt noticeable latency and lag spikes using a Bluetooth mouse before, but I can't tell any difference between wired/bluetooth/2.GHz. I thought I would notice it. I've always been wary of bluetooth and wireless in general but maybe all the kinks have been ironed out now?

>>108640469
>but I can't tell any difference between wired/bluetooth/2.GHz
*Meant the keyboard.

>>108640469
>so connection stability is probably the same for both
it isn't. bluetooth is way less stable generally speaking. if you were to have connectivity issues, it would happen first with bluetooth before 2.4. always go for the dedicated dongle given the option

if you're paranoid that someone is literally within range of a bluetooth signal then you should just be using wired

>>108640494
Ok thanks. I could probably use wired but I don't want to overcharge the battery constantly, so figured I should drain it with one of the wireless modes. It's neat how stable and fast they are, I thought for sure I'd experience lag at least with the bluetooth, but both of them feel as fast as the wired mode.

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haha!
Glare TKL!

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this is how you troon out with MX Blacks
you think it sucks to suck but then you get used to sucking
gay as fuck

>>108640873
if this general proves anything, it's that geonfags are mentally ill

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>>108635467
MX Browns

>>108635467
Kailh Box Pinks

>>108640873
>my blacks have more depth
It's true though. MX sound has a depth to it that you don't hear in HMX. Beginners listen for the pitch of the switch's 'musical note', but after a while you notice that Cherry MX is just more pleasant sonically, with its sound spread over many frequencies including more low-end, so it actually sounds "deeper" in the sense of having a full low-end.

>>108635467
melodics

How do I deepen my connection to the hobby without spending more money?

got the lemokey p1he and i'm loving it. was initially kind of sad at no numpad but i just bought the panda20 from aliexpress so this will fix my issue of needing a numpad but hating its placement on a traditional keyboard. though i was surprised to find that there are not many quality options out there. i was thinking that since there are so many TKL keyboards of varying quality on the market surely there must be as many numpads to match but nope. i guess people just don't use it.

>>108642066
Buy a keyboard and parts and actually use it while everyone else in /mkg/ continues to buy and collect shit they don't use.

>>108635467
reds and then whites for modifiers

>>108642187
>whites
As in cherry mx whites (which are just blues but with lube on the stem)?

>>108642237
it's gateron, I mostly wanted to reduce the stress on using my pinky while using both Shift keys during gaming and typing.

>>108642256
Yea, makes sense.

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>>108642066
have you considered theoryceling?
I’ve been thinking of a way to design an ortholinear keyboard that has about as many keys as a laptop does that’s horizontally centered (you want the B key to be more or less dead center in a laptop)
but this likely means that some keys that are usually over on the right get moved to the left
and I’m not sure how best to do that

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>>108635467

>>108642460
im using K Pro Brown as well but I have ordered Outemu Silent Lemon V3.
Im getting tired of people hearing my keyboard when i voice chat

>>108638968
Just buy a membrane keyboard and compare

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>>108641130
Geon boards are gateway drugs to becoming Cherry enjoyers
like this guy enjoyed soldered MX Blues on his Glare TKL
unreal.

>build perfect keyboard
>still continue to look at keyboard stuff
FUCK

Would anyone want to buy my keychron v6, I hate it.

>>108643466
This is why you should never buy a keyboard with a knob.

>>108643615
That's about the only good thing about it

you aren't supposed to buy a 100% keyboard with a knob

>>108643709
It lets you remap the volume up/down function keys to something else tho

>>108643348
my perfect keyboard doesn't exist. I'm going to have to make it

>>108643712
only 65% and 75% keyboards look good with a knob. 100% keyboards with a knob are ugly af and larger. you have more than enough keys to remap on a 100% keyboard

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holy fuck!
creamy clacky classic!

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fuck yeah

>>108645039
>creamy
cringe!

Geon needs to condemn his fans and distance himself from them

Swapped a faulty switch on this keyboard and now it works a treat.

wtf is geon

>>108645039
homosexual hands typed this post

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>>108647170

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>long feet from F2-84
>Toblerone weight from Jane
>split plate top mount from Glare
>studio name on back instead of Constance
>$450
this was the shittiest TKL GB in recent years, bar none.

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Surprised and pleased that a chinky controller company makes a pretty good hotswap keyboard

>>108648330
8BitDo boards are absolutely VALID

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I embrace the outlaw life
ride that fucking scratch
1.35 million actuations

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imagine paying out the ass for ten Tofu tier pieces of shit

how much money have you spent on keyboards?

is your keyboard "collection" worth more than your computer?

>>108648713
>is your keyboard "collection" worth more than your computer?
not mine, I buy Apple computers with a good bit more RAM and HD space than the default

>>108648330
The retro controller keyboard mashup is weird and doesn't look good. No qmk/via.

>>108648954
I'm a huge fan of my keyboard looking like a big NES but to each their own; personally I'd have liked for the Famicom model to look like a Famicom controller with the burgundy and brass, rather than like the keyboard the system it actually had for BASIC programming, but I do understand why 8bitdo chose that

I'm with you on QMK/VIA and it's really fucking weird how hard 8bitdo locked it down but I also don't find it much of an issue on a full-size keyboard, little or no reason to change it around and the gookware it comes with can assign macros if you're into that

Why don't the fucking steeped caps lock keys they include ever work with regular keyboards?

>>108649445
The trick is to soak it in warm water for about five minutes, then drink the water.

>>108648713
Maybe like 650 USD over a decade+
>Ducky pos
>Realforce 87U
>QK65 + switches + non-chinkshit keycaps
>Lucky65 v2 + switches + non-chinkshit keycaps

>>108649507
cringe!

>>108648713
I onky have membrane keyboards so, no.

I need a keyboard and switches recommendation
Budget: Up to 135 USD, unless it's too low of a price to get something good (I really don't know how much good keyboards costs)
Preferred switch type: probably tactile? I've never tried any switch, but I need something pleasant for medium-level typing.
Layout: ANSI will do
Form factor: 75%
Backlight: don't care

>>108650843
Keychron Q1 brown switches version

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hey guys.
i once ran the Keychron ISO Cherry Profile Dye-Sub PBT Full Set Keycap Set - Retro keycaps.
While they look good they felt bad, very sharp on the corners, specially when i was hitting ctrl key.

which PBT keycaps with nordic ios layout can you recommend that does not feel so sharp in the corners?

>>108651025
https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-office-love

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worst TKL GB ever
probably sold 50 units globally

>>108640873
i do not get the obsession with how they keyboard sounds.
dont they wear headphones when they are working at the computer???

What's the difference between Brown and Banana switches?

>>108619703
Do Hall and Trigger Effect switches need special boards to run on or do they also work with traditional mechanical keyboard keys?

>>108651664
yes they need a special board

>>108651664
The PCB needs to to be made for hall effect/TMR switches. The actual sensor is on the PCB after all. Though apparently there are boards that are compatible with both TMR and regular contact based switches.

>>108651598
banana switches have an earlier tactile bump than browns

>>108651324
you wouldn't get it

I bought a Wooting 80HE, but my winrate in CS2 didn't improve...

>>108651700
are there tactile hall effect switches?
also i dont want to pay 300 dollars for a keyboard just cuz its "MAGNETICS"

>>108651815
shooters has always been about mouses

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>>108650843
rainy75
they come with linear switches but you can always buy other switches and swap them out later if you don't like them

>>108652375
>>108650843
Actually, just get the wave75 instead
it's basically the same as the rainy but more customizable

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Is this peak typing posture? Forearms resting on your desk, easy way to keep your hands floating for touch typing, and your hands are closer to the alpha cluster.

>>108651598
Bananas are supposed to be patterned after Panda switches with a noticeable bump at the very beginning of the keystroke. Browns have a very soft tactile bump (almost unnoticeable) towards the middle of the keystroke and get maligned for having barely any tactility at all

>>108651664
They need special boards. You have exactly one option that's compatible with both normal MX switches and with TMR magnetic switches (doesn't specify which manufacturer, yes there is a difference) and that is this obscure Skyloong keyboard that only comes in 65% https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256810417290407.html

Why do people say that Keychron keyboards are "good enough"? What if I want something actually "good"? What's the better keyboard?

>>108653797
You have to do a little more digging to find the "good" boards but it's purely preference, Keychron can very easily be made into an "endgame" board and you have readily accessible switch plate options and a keycap/switch ecosystem from the same website
I regret to report that Keychron and 8bitdo are probably the best you can do for plastic keyboards in this day and age and as far as metal goes you should be looking around on Plebbit for general user satisfaction moreso than the actual store page

Is there a switch that has a sharper tactile bump than durock silent shrimps?

Can anyone explain magnetic and HE switches to me? Should I start using them? I know nothing about it.

Gonna start selling all my meme keyboards that are boxed in the basement. Haven't changed a thing on a norbauer heavy 9 since 20024.

>>108654183
>20024
damn I can't believe we're still using this garbage in 18000 years

>>108651324
not always
and my AirPods Pro only dampen the noise —they don’t squelch it entirely

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>>108653797
you don't have the guts to get something actually "good"
fucking Cylon

>>108620309
is it yours? it looks interesting >.>

now i want one haha

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>get desperate in trying to find a product
>ask Gemini
>it just tells me "yeah that's kinda weird bro"
I absolutely love it when out of desperation in finding a hyper-specific product I attempt to consult an LLM in hopes it scraped something I've omitted, all it does is reaffirms all of my manual research that that shit's too niche to be available.

>>108643214
It's Gateron Bananas being problematic PLUS Keychron having eager debounce by default PLUS maybe Keychron PCBs not being ideal in some other way. You can fix by changing your debounce to defer debounce (and maybe extending the time too), or by changing the switches, or maybe by putting those switches in a different keyboard (lol)

I'm thinking of buying some gear to do more in-depth keyboard diagnostics. I want to get to the bottom of it—why are all these new keyboards bad?

>>108619703
any reccomendations for an aliexpress keyboard?

>>108653797
>What if I want something actually "good"? What's the better keyboard?
literally any custom board. it really depends how much you want to spend and what layout you want

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>>108654704
Not anymore, it's with its new owner. If you're interested feel free to email me at dactylman at protonmail.com.

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>>108654727
did I not tell you this anon
don't torture yourself, that cable exists
just get a Vortex PC66 and it'll come with it

>>108655236
>Vortex PC66
>Sold out
>Unavailable
Neat!

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>>108655250
God loves a trier
make WTB posts on your local marketplaces
Discord, plebbit, Facebook, whatever, try it all
maybe you'll find some guy who'll sell it to you for real cheap
a while ago you didn't even know this cable existed, never give up!

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I can help you get those cables, as many as you like
drop your proton.me here and I'll help you out, stud

I just bought the RD75 convince me to cancel it

>>108655604
75% is a garbage, cramped layout

75%s are to TKLs what 95-98%s are to full size
completely unnecessary
aesthetically ugly too
just useless.

>>108620233
>2 + 4mm travel
is it a piano keyboard? that's insane (too much) for typing
you only need enough for tactile feedback, less is better

flashed qmk into my chink mech keyboard and it made it so much better why don't they just ship with qmk by default?

I got a keychron K5 V2 and I'm sorta happy with it, I just didn't expect the battery to be so crap with the rgb on, it barely lasts like 4 days and then it shuts the lights off at 30% battery life
It's very sturdy though and I ended up replacing the red switches with brown ones
And I guess I had gotten used to the privileges of having the separate logitech usb bluetooth connector that let me wake up the PC with the keyboard
And it does take like 3 seconds until it finally decided to connect once the PC is awake

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holy fucking shit!
topless MX Blacks!

>>108656067
fucking scrub
go back to your 3.4mm garbage
this hobby belongs to full travel appreciators
and that means Cherry ONLY

>>108656293
I need same height profiles to be able to shuffle keys around and complete my obscure national layout.

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MX Gays

>>108656270
censor this sick filth

>>108619703
Danke doctor

Wjat you guys think about switch and click?

>>108651598
Banana switches become Brown switches after about a week and a half

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>>108658750

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>>108656688
it's scandalous!

Anons, Q1 Max or Q1 Ultra 8K? I don't give a fuck about 8K polling, but the price difference is so low where I'm gonna buy one, that it doesn't really make sense to choose between these two based on price, however I can't tell if Q1 Ultra 8K is actually strictly superior to Q1 Max or not. Should prefer the Ultra 8K over the Max if both of them cost essentially the same or not?

>>108659596
it wound be wiser to get a neo75 or something than to blow over $200 on a shitty keychron. if you really want a prebuilt then rainy75. fuck keychron

>>108651730
>>108653666
>>108658750
so do i get brown or banana switches? don't really want to switch between these two down the line, i've only used linear before, but want to switch to tactile now, although i've never used them before
my focus is text typing, although i play games a little bit too

>>108659876
just get MX2A Browns (unlubed)

>>108659876
browns have like no tactility, they're basically just a shittier linear. if bananas hit 60g then at least they have some tactility

either will be fine for typing and gaming

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>>108659972
MX Browns are great
light and thin and crisp tractility
oh fuck I love MX Browns so much

>>108660052
shut up

>>108651700
>>108653703
Which would you say is better? Hall or Trigger?
>>108655323
>pic
Hey I know that femboy porn game!

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consoom

>>108660221
Only 4 interest-free installments of $16.25? How can I lose?!

>>108660221
>4x size switch
Oh, neat, they're made for Novelkeys Big Switches.

>>108659972
Will Banana switches give me fatigue when typing for a prolonged period of time?

>>108660181
hell yeah fellow Robin appreciator

>>108659714
What do you mean, what's wrong with Keychron
>Neo75
No manufacturer of anything ships directly into my country, I can only buy shit from local retailers, which don't sell keyboards that aren't already ready-to-use from the box
>Rainy75
What makes it better

Why do I prefer the keyboard on my X220 more than any mechanical keyboard I've ever used. I've exclusively been a desktop/mechanical keyboard user for my entire life with my first keyboard using MX blues. I legitimately despise long actuation distances a this point.

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fuck yeah look at that

keyboard enthusiasts will be like "fuck yeah look at that" and it's just a picture of a gray rectangle

why does nobody in this thread recommend any fucking keyboards even though i asked about it a few threads ago, how am i supposed to know what keyboard do i need to buy

>>108661820
they just aren’t very good quality wise. just about every other week i see someone complaining about keys double pressing. also the value proposition just isn’t very good. the Q series all share the same alu case and a couple of months ago you used to be able to get Q basic boards for $60

I have never seen anyone complain about something being wrong with a rainy75 or an evo80. they’re just a tier up in terms of quality, at least for in stock prebuilts

>>108662948
what are you looking for

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new build after 2 years lfg

>>108661733
I don't know, man. Maybe.

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Not keyboard, but someone talk me out of it.

>>108664341
Middle mouse button still does that thing where it'll release without physically unclicking if you ease up on the pressure. I'm interested in the HITS shit too but I'm just waiting for it to show up in other mice where they actually care about the quality of the other buttons too.
https://youtu.be/fZbN7TfJwZY?t=440

>>108664393
I don't use that as a button, so meh.

>>108664341
the nu logitech logo is ugly

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>>108662777
less is more
like femboys or MX Browns
less female bullshit to put up with

>>108664441
If you don't mind paying $180 for a mouse with a faulty button then go for it. I've also read people complaining about how the side buttons feel mushy, since they're the same as on the superlight.
I was looking at the superstrike to replace my old mouse but I went with a much, much cheaper ($48) rapoo with optical switches instead. Their claim about 750 hours of battery at 1kHz polling life is real by the way. I've had mine for nearly a month now and it's at 54%.

>>108664341
https://www.swiftpoint.co.nz/products/swiftpoint-z3-ea

>>108664341
Wait for the $20 aliexpress analog mouse

>>108664707
not lookin for frankenmouse

>>108664794
No

>>108664804
Map mouse1 to one of the keys on your analog keyboard

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The Asuka keyboard finally arrived

>>108664902
>knob
Yuck!
>no F keys
Barfaroni

>>108664341
get a g502x like a proper gaymur

>>108664902
>Evangelion
Kino
>Character boards rather than a NERV themed kiosk keyboard
yuck...

>>108664810
no

>>108664921
I'm coming from a G203 and that seems like a pretty big departure in size/shape, whereas the Pro X2 SuperStrike has the same basic shape/profile and button placement.

do dmg keycaps fit well with black keyboards?

I don't think I can go back to nonsilent switches

>>108664341
logitech is dogshit these days
also wildly overpriced

>>108665136
the only peripherals my company will order is logitech

>>108665181
that's because logitech basically has the office peripherals market cornered
their gaming mice are overpriced as shit. Quality control's gone down the shitter in the past few years while the price keeps going up. Meanwhile your mouse buttons will begin double clicking within 2 years

>>108665213
anon, that's why i'm buying this mouse to begin with.

It doesn't use mechanical switches for the primary buttons and shouldn't be capable of double clicking like that.

>>108665389
NTA but every other button besides the main two will though.

>>108665389
optical switches aren't logitech exclusive, you know
in fact logitech was one of the slowest ones to adopt optical switches, and that's even with how notorious they were with their double clicking issues

>>108665392
Sure, but those buttons are used ~10-100x less often.

The main two are the ones I have issues with on almost every mouse i've ever owned after 1.5-3 years.

>>108665407
The other optical mice, which use a beam of light to replace the metal electrical contact, still rely on a physical plastic housing and a spring that must "click" to break that light beam.

The Pro X2 Superstrike uses a magnet that moves toward a copper coil, and the mouse measures the electromagnetic induction to determine exactly how far down the button is. Because it's measuring distance rather than just "on/off," you can set the click to register at the very top of the press (0.1mm) or deep at the bottom (1.0mm). Standard optical mice have a fixed actuation point that you cannot change. Since there is no physical switch to go "click," the mouse uses a tiny internal haptic motor to push back against your finger.

It's essentially a solid state mouse.

>>108665430
jesus christ you're just copy and pasting logitech marketing at this point
that gimmick has such a negligible impact on your actual performance but they do it so they can jack up the price and sell it to retards while calling it "innovation". I guarantee you it won't matter.

>>108665467
Most of the youtuber reviewers so far disagree.

Even the smaller no name channels, except the obvious contrarian retard channels that fish for views from other contrarian/doomers like yourself.

This is one of the only REAL innovations in mice lately.

At least it's not just shaving off weight like everyone has already been doing for the last 10 years.


I'm gonna trust the people who actually have used it instead of some retard on 4chan who hasn't used it and doesn't even know what he's talking about assuming it's like every other optical switch on the market.

>>108665213
>Meanwhile your mouse buttons will begin double clicking within 2 years
yeah but I'm not paying for it so I don't care

>>108665484
>This is one of the only REAL innovations in mice lately.
gullible retard

>>108665492
Lmao, explain how it isn't.


It's customized haptics, and customized actuation distance, that's the biggest innovation in mice in a decade.

>>108619703
ho ho ho look at the CHALLENGED AUTISTS

who can't

PLOVER

(I can't either, yet)

Actually, I'm going to be trying to do another system. If you are familiar, Plover is famous for being free CAT. Determinative results from keypresses, and realtime correction.

But the old system was just tape, and really it was keyboard-assisted shorthand. Combinations of letters were often AMBIGUOUS.

enter ai.

basically ai can into decodingly your tape. If you want. Or do it yourself.

These methods are both free, and faster. And useless for some purposes, like (modern standards of) court reporting.

>>108665430
>X2 Superstrike
It might be a fine mouse, and it might be more "pro", but did you know all of the pros are aim cheaters? aim cheats are the doping of e-sports.

>>108665498
Listen, of all the places to reduce latency (sensor latency, polling rate, etc.) the last thing you should be looking for is the fucking actuation distance of the mouse click. It's literally fractions of a millimeter you're shaving off. Meanwhile logitech is still selling you that shitty egg shape that they refuse to change because everyone wants to just copy what the pros use instead of actually finding a shape they're comfortable with, not to mention those fuckass awful mouseskates you get a for $180 mouse.
>customized haptics
no one gives a shit about haptics
name one time someone has asked for vibration on their mouse

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>>108665531
okay?

I'm not really a gamer like that.

I play minecraft, GTA5, stardew valley, etc.

I mostly just want it because i fidget with my mouse in my hand and click around a lot, so having a mouse click that I can customize (actuation point and physical feel)

>>108665537
>Listen, of all the places to reduce latency (sensor latency, polling rate, etc.) the last thing you should be looking for is the fucking actuation distance of the mouse click. It's literally fractions of a millimeter you're shaving off.
You're wrong. Pic related and link related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2fYTXZhwtc

Also I care about haptics, fuck yourself, you don't get to tell me what I do and don't care about you dumb faggot cuck.

>>108665550
>name brand shill youtuber
Great! Now try to notice the difference in real life usage