>>108638584
But soundbars are speakers.

enthusiasts want to carefully select speakers and a receiver but normies don't want to fuck with it. they just want better sound than their TV. it's basically a convenience tax.

>>108638590
goofy magic bullet air fryer pickleball ahh speakers

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>goofy magic bullet air fryer pickleball ahh speakers

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>>108638584
what's the point of soundbars and speakers when headphones exist?

>>108638719
comfort

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I have a dual monitor setup and im reaching the conclusion that I need a soundbar because theres no way of placing 2 speakers in a symmetrical way because the monitors arent placed symmetrically. Im not near a wall either so I cant just bolt the speakers to a wall or something like that

>>108638719
No gamer dent

>>108638584
Space and convenience if you're specially talking about TV setups in particular even a cheap one would be upgrade for those not wanting a surround sound setup instead

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>>108638737
good headphone are comfy too.
>>108638756
gamer dents are a myth and not real

Im gonna buy 50$ xiaomi soundbar and report back if they sound better than my lg c1 tv speakers

>>108638584
>What's the point of soundbars when speakers exist?
Easy to set up and use. Especially with ARC where you can control the volume with your TV remote.

>>108638590
ikr, what a retard

>>108638584
Soundbar is like 2 front stereo speakers and the center speaker into one, they you need the subwoofer and the rear speaker to have true surround.

>>108638584
women. the whole reason why soundbars are a thing is because women dont let their beta husbands get real speakers.

>>108639264
*then

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>>108639269
It's for convenience, you get 2 front speakers and a center into one that are positioned in a line anyway.

>>108638584
What do you think the ".1" for "Dolby 5.1 surround sound" meant?

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I got one because I use an oled TV as monitor but the default feet are too short so I just sit it on top of the bar. Better sound + height adjustment.

>>108638750
>no way of placing 2 speakers in a symmetrical way
>no way
>no way at all
>cant be done

>>108639331
.1 is the subwoofer.
5 is
>1 C
>2 LF
>3 RF
>4 LR
>5 RR

>>108638683
skibidi ahh lil goynigga aint even know he slop

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>>108638584
I got one second-hand for four bucks in an auction at my old job and it sounds great. For that price, why try harder?

>>108638584
>What's the point of soundbars when speakers exist?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_acceptance_factor

for some reason women hate large speakers. I read somewhere it's because they fundamentally recognize it's the only thing capable of being louder than them.

I was close to getting a soundbar but got some speakers instead. I was only considering very cheap ones and they sounded like total shit and evidently good ones cost like $500+. That'll buy better speakers. Sonos was most recommended but the reviews said you literally cannot use them without an app. What utter jewish nonsense.

>>108640413
>for some reason women hate large speakers. I read somewhere it's because they fundamentally recognize it's the only thing capable of being louder than them.
kek I believe this, gotta look it up.

>>108638584
I wonder why anyone would buy a fucking soundbar from Marshall of all companies, you just know it's gonna be the shittiest of shit.

>>108640459
do they shill a lot on social media? I see a few zoomer girls with their headphones nowadays

>>108638584
in the sub-10k dollar class they're all dogshit, pick the cheapest, why bother with reviews and shit when the entire coomsumer market is a scam, same as with tv/monitor

>>108638584
I have a samsung q990d in my living room, and then a full physical 5.1.4 atmos setup in my basement. The full basement setup is more of an experience than just watching a movie, it's fucking incredible.

>>108638584
to give "audiophiles" something to be gay and annoying about

>>108638584
Soundbars ARE speakers. I hope this helps.

>>108638719
not all of us live with our parents and need to abide by strict quiet hours.

>>108638584
I imagine it's just a convenience thing. Easy 1-stop-shop for sound, just plug in the hdmi and you're good to go.

I've never used one myself because my dad was always a huge audio nerd, so I always had free access to unlimited high quality speakers, receivers, etc. So I would just bum stereo equipment off him. But it does seem more compact and convenient. For instance on my desk setup, I have a receiver and two bookshelf speakers, and all that takes up space. Would be nice if I could just have a soundbar instead, I suppose.

>>108640413
>>108640426
foids just seem to hate everything in the house that serves any actual purpose
>large object taking up space on shelf:
:0
>large object taking up space on shelf that serves a useful purpose:
,>:(

Can't have disc players and receivers, but here's this abstract ceramic modern art sculpture and a live laff luv sign

>>108638584
they're a quick and dirty solution that works for most people
the proper way is to have freestanders either side, then a sub and rears if you want to go further but not everyone has the space for it

>>108640413
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_acceptance_factor
Now I understand why zoomies in /pcbg/ have SFF builds. Because their mommies, who have to pay for it, wouldn't accept a full tower behemoth.

>>108640884
I have an ITX build because I liked the way it looks and because fuck it, why not. Also made my desk setup much cleaner having a little box on the corner of my desk rather than a bloated case at the foot of the table with a bunch of cables strewn about going down there.

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>>108640884
zoomers do that because they are dumbasses and saw some youtuber build one where he cuts out all the shitass parts of actually building it and never mentions that's not his actual desktop

Millennials have to do it they get the cuck cupboard

>>108640748
even living alone I use headphones at my desktop

>>108638584
They're good if you need something under your monitor and don't have room on the sides or you need a center channel speaker and don't have anywhere to put the upfiring speakers for atmos.

>>108638719
What's the point of closed back headphones when jamming a pencil into each ear is a more pleasant experience?
Seriously I hope none of you niggers used closed back headphones when openback headphones exist.

>>108638584
Convenience, supposedly. People just want to buy <<thing>> that they just plop down under their TV with no effort whatsoever and it sounds kinda better than the built-in TV speakers at least.

>>108638584
It's a meme. They're just cheap $3 speakers stuffed inside a rectangular case.

>>108641367
I use and have both. Open are good for some things and closed for a few other things. For most things I'd say open are better and if you're going to have a single headphone I'd recommend open as well, but closed have their place.

>>108641407
>closed for a few other things
What purpose do you have for closed beyond noise isolation/cancelling while on an airplane or train? I just use nice IEMs for that one use case. Use my Sennheiser HD800S for everything else.

>>108641428
Neighbors making noise, family stomping around the house, dog barking at a deer.
Next you'll post a snide remark about how only poorfags in third world nations have to worry about such things.

>>108639264
Only the higher end ones like Sonos have that. Usually it's just 2 speakers

>>108639269
If you can't mount real speakers inside the wall off the cuff you need supervision anyway.

>>108638584
normies buy em cause they fit under the tv which is nice and they sound exactly like the tv cause they use the same speaker drivers as the damn tv which is stupid
an LG C5 (listed on the site as "2.2" so 2 way speakers?) sounds good enough on its own with to obsolete the cheaper ones
normie audio has just been slop since those idiotic edgy micro systems of the 2000s, all aesthetics no quality
there was always slop in consumer hifi, but those things were particularly popular and particularly bad and killed consumer hifi to bring about endless era of BT speakers and soundbars that are also BT speakers but bigger and somehow still shitter than the jbl that fits in a cupholder

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>>108641442
Hmm I dunno man I can barely hear my wife who's desk is against the wall 90 degrees next to mine when she's talking to me to the point we get in a Teamspeak6 call sometimes to talk when I have my HD800S on. But if you're in a noisy environment where the openback headphones aren't enough then I guess that's a valid use case yea. I've never been in such an environment. Not even [spoiler]my toddler playing in the room[/spoiler] makes enough noise to need closed headphones. May just be lucky to have a quiet wife and kid tho.
Hope they at least sound tolerable. I couldn't do it. I'd rather have to liisten to a lawnmower in the room than deal with closed back headphones personally. Have tried the Fostex TH900 and Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro and they both are just the worst listening experience, even if the 770 are max comfy. I wish someone would buy them off me but haven't found someone willing. Basically brand new.

>>108641491
How loud do you listen to music on your headphones?

>>108638719
Headphones give you cancer.

>>108641455
had a snoy that had a tweeter as well as a standard racetrack shaped speaker driver like in a tv
I'll be damned if they hit 100hz with that shit, I mean what a joke

>>108641491
DT-770s are basically built for studio recording but I don't mind how they sound. I have the upgraded DT-1770s and apply a little EQ to raise the mids and they sound fine to me.

>>108641520
Not very loud. I can hear the AC a little bit tho (we have a window unit in the hobby room where our PCs are since the central cooling can't keep up with 2x 5090 FEs, air compressor (airbrush/paint station), and our home server. I can hear her mouse click and her talk when nothing is playing. I listen at save levels.
If someone was screaming/crying I'd definitely hear it. But no one screams in this house thankfully (growing up I was not so lucky).
>>108641578
Fair enough, the 770s are comfy. Never heard the 1770s. EQ can help a lotta things.

>>108638601
>ahh
you having a stroke there bud

>>108641470
not all of us live in cardboard boxes, burger-kun

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>>108638683
What the fuck, the producing speech region is the exact spot I've been punching myself in the head at for 25 years, is there a way to reverse this?

>>108642199
yeah. get a job

>>108642327
I have one but I'm probably going to be fired next year for not talking enough

>>108640937
copie, zoomshits can't even afford a house

Soundbars often sound like this compared to real speakers.
Also you can buy a yery nice set of speakers and a modern-ish a/v reciever off your cunt's equivalent of craigslist for pennies since boomers needs to replace their setup every few years for some reason.

>>108640807
>Points at the server rack in the basement
>Scrunches up her face
>”Do you really need these?”

>>108642361
enjoy the mortage + cupboard

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>>108640937
at that point just accept the eck.

>>108642108
racist ahh ahh uncnigger

>>108643627
Do zoomers ever listen to themselves and feel ashamed? Is shame even a thing anymore?

>>108639335
>I sit on top of the bar

>>108643649
little timmy tryna step xD

>>108641428
>IEM
Yes, because I love shoving silicone dildos into my ear canals.

>>108642199
lmao did they seriously draw a nigger face on it

>>108638750
i know that feel

>>108638584
What's the point of speakers when toilets exist
https://youtu.be/CGuP_cxuM1I

>>108638584
Low profile. Usually great if you don't need super high quality audio but want something light years ahead of your TV speakers.

>>108642909
>a modern-ish a/v reciever off your cunt's equivalent of craigslist for pennies since boomers needs to replace their setup every few years for some reason.
I don't get this behavior desu. I got a mint NAD D 3045 years ago for 400 euros when the new price is still 800-900 right now.

>>108643701
Dyslexiagod

>>108640528
>paying 10k+ for speakers
Dis nigga here buys audiophile rocks

The snake oil market keeps the audio industry afloat

>>108638600
Its women pretty much. Women don't like AVR's and speakers cluttering up their mantles, so they want these as a compromise for men who can't live with the shitty TV speakers women want.

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>>108640807
> abstract ceramic modern art sculpture
How does the female brain rationalize these

>>108645599
Pic unrelated

>>108638584
To give you something resembling what early flat screen tvs and CRT tvs had for "cheap" for people who probably don't know how to set up something like an amp + speaker set.

>>108638719
Headphone make ear hurt and hot

>>108641367
>>108641428
Most people aren't mentally ill and don't invent imaginary issues with normal headphones just because they want to promote EARBUDS (fuck your fake acronym, they are what they are no matter how many layers of rebranding you throw at them) and a meme alternative.

Just a quick easy product that you can sell to consumers that makes the sound a little better. Remember, you are a /g/ autist and love fiddling with wires speakers and surround sound systems, normies just want something to plug and play that sounds better than the TV.

>>108638584
pretty sure that's a speaker too. really shitty one, but speaker nonetheless.

>>108640937
Never let your soul die to please a woman like this bros
It's far better to be single and be the master of your own house than to let a woman convince you that the only space you're allowed to yourself is a single cupboard
The house is half owned by you, your aesthetic is just as valid as hers

>>108638719
A lot of older music was mixed with stereo systems in mind, not headphones.
https://youtu.be/Mzo3Sf7MpZw

COUNTERPOINT: It's very hard to actually find proper speakers for a TV setup without them looking completely ridiculous

>>108648399
There's also that album that's recorded on 4 separate CDs and you are meant to play them on 4 different stereos at the same time

>>108648450
use case for TVs in 2026?

>>108648450
oh nooo some theoretical nobody might find your setup ridiculous
The only thing ridiculous here is weak faggots like you actually being affected by such faggoty theoreticals.

>>108648564
shut up you bitch don't @ me again
your house looks like shit kike

>>108638584
because the housing market is fucked so I no longer have room for my 5.1 wharfdale setup

I had an old stereo Sony system that I have connected to various TVs for the past 16 years.

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>>108647655
>Most people aren't mentally ill and don't invent imaginary issues with normal headphones
No issue with normal headphones (openback). The only use case where normal headphones (openback) are not preferable is in noisy environments. Most of us are not sitting in a studio with early solid state or late tube electronics (loud whine of coils/tubes was a big reason closed back monitors were preferred) or producers standing behind us talking thus the use case of closed-back headphones is dubious at best.
>EARBUDS (fuck your fake acronym, they are what they are no matter how many layers of rebranding you throw at them)
IEM or in-"ear monitor" predates the term "earbud" by about 5 years. It's the original term while earbud was marketing jargon coined for the consumer market due to the de facto industry term "ear monitor" being trademarked once it was clear it would be a standard. So no, technically the audio industry was exclusively calling them "ear monitors" or "earpieces" in the late 70s/early 80s. Earbud didn't enter the English language until shortly after Future Sonics slapped a trademark on the industry term "ear monitor" in 1985 to cement themselves as the foremost "ear monitor" producer. During this time period (the mid 80s) there was a distinction between "ear monitor" or "ear phone" and "ear bud." The former was inserted into the user's ear canal for isolation while the later rested on the concha (the opening outside of the canal, you know where Apple Earbuds rested back in the iPod days). There was no need for the prefix "in-" at the time since "ear phone" or "ear monitor" was obviously inside of your ear as "head phone" or "head monitor" was the one that rested on your head and on/around your ears. "Ear bud" was given the distinction of not in-canal but in-concha or on-canal. But given the energy you've put out in your deranged rant I'd imagine you'll completely ignore this interaction and continue tilting at windmills.

>>108643649
>>108643739
Realize they've been raised on phones with word filters so they cant curse or say expletives like "ass". Its sounds absolutely goofy in text but I can tell you they absolutely feel embarrassed saying it in real life in front of people who can call them fucking stupid.

>>108648450
Get tall floor speakers and put them next to the entertainment center. Or get front ported speakers and mount them to the wall. It was nicer back when entertainment centers were smaller and the TV fit inside of them, instead of essentially being long tables, I'll give you that.

Should I cop SONY HTSF150 for 100$?
I have an LG C1 TV

>>108638584
speakers take up too much space

>>108649065
>Should I cop SONY HTSF150 for 100$?
No definitely not. You'll be disappointed as it won't be that much of a setup compared to the on-board C1 speakers. Just get a Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 instead. You can find them used/clearance around 100 easily and they'll sound an order of magnitude better. If you don't have space just lay them on their side under your display on either end and use the sub as a footrest.

>>108638584
Nigga I just want to hear what's on my tv, I don't care what audiophiles think.

>>108649267
Then just use the TV speakers? You can hear the TV just fine with those can't you?
If you are going to buy something EXTRA why would you buy a worse product on purpose when you could get regular speakers?

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Can I still use Dolby Atmos if my soundbar is on the floor?

>>108649572
yes they should room correct

placement is about the best and first reflection from floor distance is not bad either

>>108649649
Only if it has microphones/sensors for room correction.

>>108638584
>why does needlessly included tech exist
to assign more value to combined product; TV + Soundbar then you could get for the parts individually
assume this is always the answer

>>108649702

if you are interested about power response you might skip room corrections

>>108648716
>audiophool nonsense
There is no issue with closed back headphones and EARBUDS are EARBUDS no matter how you wrap it in snake oil, magic crystals, and quintuple gold plated cables.

>>108638584
soundbars fit under the tele

Soundbars are a lazy solution for people who don't have the space for normal speakers and don't want to drill their wall to place the speakers.

>>108638584
People want TV wide as possible, nowhere on the side to put speakers, soundbar go under TV.
There are plenty of active speakers with built in HDMI now at least, so they are plug-and-play as soundbars are.

>>108642361
More zoomers own houses than millennials did in their 20s. Despite covid they joined the job market at a better time plus their parents have been more willing to help pay for a home.

>>108638584
>What's the point of monitors when screens exist?

>>108652827
Whatever you say apple fan.