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>/g/ tells me to get plex or jellyfin for managing my library
>have to spend more time organizing folders, filenames and metadata than watching movies
>and they compress your video files without telling you
I dragged an HDMI cable through my walls from my pc to my tv because that was easier
Do people actually put up with this?
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>>108638958
>have to spend more time organizing folders, filenames and metadata than watching movies
That's on you for not organizing shit sooner. Specially with movies it's piss easy just to use Moviename (year).mp4
>and they compress your video files without telling you
I take you mean the OPTION to stream at lower bandwidth?
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>do shit because /g/ told you to without thinking even for a moment is it a good idea
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>>108638958
I hate jellyfin because with plex I can throw all my anime and movies in one folder and just do folder view because really that's all I want is to play my media on my tv. I don't need some stupid zoomer organization with pretty pictures like it's netflix or whatever. jellyfin doesn't let me do that.
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Isn't Plex practically useless these days like it doesn't even let you stream with decent quality outside of your network?
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>>108639188
But you used to be able to do that for free. What's the cost for Plex exactly?
I provide the media, I provide the server, I provide the connection, I can register a certificate myself if needed.
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>>108640308
I have Wireguard running on my router and on all my devices, but the main selling point PLEX has over Jellyfin is that it has a client for everything from TVs to consoles and I don't think most of those have an option to use a VPN.
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>>108638958
one consistent thing I've noticed about zoomers is no matter how good or bad they are with technology all of them absolutely despise the notion of having to organize any of it. It completely explains why even a masters class or new hire cannot understand how to find a pdf or why any of them don't understand how file directories work.
Anything that requires organization just makes them shit their pants. I guess because the way they use technology is you type in search and the file or video or song turns up. Also why they don't have any bookmarks but have 1000 tabs open on their phones. Chromebooks have also played a massive part in this. Actually, all of this is Google's fault.
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>>108640334
>unless your shit is named fucking horribly
And it would have to be HORRIBLE, because even these folders i have get detected properly in Plex
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>>108638958
>>/g/ tells me to get plex or jellyfin for managing my library
okay
>>have to spend more time organizing folders, filenames and metadata than watching movies
that's good, and they can automate that. Well plex can do it a lot better than Jellyfin. Jellyfin's media management is pretty trash, that's why people use *arr or shokofin for it instead
>>and they compress your video files without telling you
Do you mean transcoding? You control that. Well you can on Jellyfin, plex demands you pay them money for you to use your own hardware
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>>108640349
Zoomers bought into the apple "it just werks" mentallity with iphones so none of them actually know how to do anything and their phone or tablet was doing every basic task behind the scenes for them. You put them on a proper desktop environment and they go full retard mode. It's actually wild how apt the zoomer/boomer description is when it comes to them using PCs. Meanwhile Gen X and Millennials grew up with terminals and DOS etc. and had to fix their own issues and figure shit out with no sources but their own will to make something happen. Zoomers will never know the fear of breaking the family computer after school and having until like 5:30 or whatever to make sure it's fixed and working right otherwise your ass is gonna get beaten raw. Instead they just throw tantrums break their phone screen and mom and dad buy a new one because you can't hit your kids anymore.
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>>108640364
Yeah, exactly. Usually the worst I have to do is fix the retards episode or subfolder organization and that's just because they did it wrong. Or I add a new movie and it has a weird "www. ------" shit in front of the file name so I have to click match and 1 other button and boom movie matched wow so hard.
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>>108640419
Yeah I know, like I said I've set up a VPN and I use Jellyfin, I've configured it for my parents to use.
What happened with PLEX vindicated my opinion that I should never rely on paid/freemium services as they can change their mind at any time.
FOSS is better in the long run even if it's more of a hassle to set up or lacks feature parity.
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>>108639029
so write it yourself, one of those is open source
release team I guess if that's something you actually care about, using file names for image quality is retarded, and both pull that from the actual video metadata rather than trusting whatever is in a name
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>>108638958
You should look into CopyParty. If all you want to do is share your media anywhere with pretty much anyone on pretty much any hardware, this will do the trick. It's only one tiny small Python file.
The demo video is over 15 mins long but it's that fucking awesome and has that many features...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15_-hgsX2V0
https://github.com/9001/copyparty
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>>108638958
>>have to spend more time organizing folders, filenames and metadata than watching movies
get radarr and sonarr
>>and they compress your video files without telling you
this isn't true unless you pick a quality option lower than original
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>>108638958
When I switched to jellyfin recently I learned that jellyfin is a lot more sensitive to naming of files/folders than plex was so I just had Claude write me a few simple python scripts and everything just werked after I ran them.
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>>108641824
I mean, my naming scheme comes from before Jellyfin-times and it takes pretty much no effort to rename a movie. Plus I only have like 200-300, so not exactly the type who downloads multiple a month when the naming process would take much time.
>>108642829
NTA but unlike most other iOS clients it tends to work more reliable and have a more consistent UI, although recently Moonfin was released and shit is pretty nice too. Just wish they could figure out how to handle audio since I want one app for everything.
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I only ever wanted it for remote streaming, but plex requires a subscription and jellyfin makes you manually expose a port on your firewall like it’s 1996
Then I realized, I can just download the movie to my phone
The most realistic usecase I guess is if you have multiple rooms where you wanna watch movies, an actual server and you only have laptops and tvs in your house. Having plex on your work laptop is easier to explain than having qbuttorrent
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>>108642978
For 50 years people watched tv on shitty blurry crts with pan-n-scan, but now that we have 1080p phones then ooh la la we are all cinephiles.
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>>108642993
Those still do the same as just opening a port, no?
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>>108643015
But like, just from the "having to hold it" side, it sounds terrible. Then again, given movies today seem to be made for casual consumption while you're doing something else… perhaps you're doing it right.
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>>108642940
This is why I paid plex a year ago.
Jellyfin is a meme when you start talking about sharing with people, dealing with accounts, firewall, jails...
I just allow Cloudflare IPs on my IPS/FW and let 443 out for Traefik.
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>>108647344
I use Finamp for music. Though it seems to be a bit inactive recently.
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>>108647937
There's no PS5 native app for example, there's no app for Vidaa OS which I have on my TV, probably the same for the other obscure bullshit operating systems they put on TVs (that have no reason to exist).
I know that I *could* just carry around a Fire stick or something similar, but that's besides the point.
Plex is normie tier and available for absolutely everything, that's its biggest strength and they know it.
But like every other non-free solution, the company behind it can and will change its mind eventually making the service paid, or more expensive or worse or all of the above.
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>>108638958
>have to spend more time organizing folders, filenames and metadata than watching movies
You are supposed to use the components sonarr, radarr, prowlarr and seerr
They make it so easy its literally like using Netflix, you search for the show / movie, press request and they find it from a torrent site you've added to scrape, it gets the torrent, ads it to your client, downloads it, makes a symlink so you can keep the same file in the torrent AND have Jellyfin pick up the correct metadata and then it ads it to Jellyfin
There's even another thing that gets all available subtitles better than Jellyfin can natively but I haven't set that up yet
So easy to use once its setup a retard could do it
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>>108648217
yeah that's it
I originally wanted something like Stash DB where I could just chuck my tv and films into a folder and it would get the metadata from something like a phash database but apparently nothing like that exists for tv and films (except for Shoko server for anime)
However with seerr I have to say this setup is nicer
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>re-setup jellyfin on a new nas i made
>try to play an x265 encoded movie in my browser to confirm it works
>choppy as fuck
>wtf.jpg
>fuck around with bitrate
>if I force it transcode (selecting sub 2 Mbps) it's not choppy
>direct play another non-x265 movie at 20 Mbps
>not choppy
>wtf2.jpg
so I guess I learned firefox fucking sucks at x265 and can't handle av1 either (which refuses to even direct play unless i disable av1 in about:config). oh well this is more of a firefox one than a jellyfin one, which seems to work great otherwise. setting up gpu forwarding in proxmox was a bit tedious but it paid off, jellyfin itself is smooth as butter and has no buffering anymore
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>>108648279
Are you using the Intel QSV CPU transcoder or a dedicated GPU?
I bought a B580 which is way overkill and its fucking insane
Even handles the silly dolby vision rips on non DV devices / clients (they used to show up green and I had to re-download them in another format)
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>>108638958
Why is Jellyfin so horribly laggy compared to Plex? Basic UI functionality takes at least twice as long on an average traversal from the Home screen to a random movie in the library. Jellyfin also completely shits the bed if I go to my music and sort by song title rather than Artist or Album, yet Plex lazy loads everything immediately and is buttery smooth. Jellyfin took the dumbshit route of having separate pages for your media instead of infinite scroll and I hate it.
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>>108648415
This is only recently an issue. I'm not sure what they did but I remember from the jellyfin update threads they had fucked up the database or something. They are supposedly working on fixing it but its been at least two updates since then and its still laggy as fucking HELL loading the interface actually pisses me off.
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>>108640543
Jellyfin didn't even exist during Plex's glory years and was unusable for a long time after it did exist. People who say "durr just use Jellyfin" are exclusively retarded zoomers who jumped on the media streaming bandwagon in the past 5 years.
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>>108648445
you can use sonarr or radarr to automatically change file names. I don't see how difficult this is >>108648478
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>>108640391
>because you can't hit your kids anymore.
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>>108648915
so many times have updates fucked my shit up. Only real reason I update so much is due to shit just not working right in the first place hoping for a fix to come in. Stuff like DV used to not work nor the GPU drives for ff mpeg were outdated or some shit on the build I was using.
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>>108648161
>Streamyfin
How good is the offline listening experience?
Is it practical to select a bunch of albums and have them available for offline listening?
Is the music player first-class or an afterthought? It seems to me the app is focused on video streaming.
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>>108651384
I was already using Manet for music, so I don't know. From what I've tested: you navigate to your Music library and it seems to be like any other music player to me. It's missing some sorting and filtering functionality because you're probably expected to use the search bar. It doesn't have lyrics in the player.
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>>108638958
bait thread
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H-
Wait a minute, I have an HDMI cable!
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>>108648002
>There's no PS5 native app
Stop streaming movies and TV shows from your game console. Are you a child?
> there's no app for Vidaa OS which I have on my TV
Well, yeah, because no one uses third-world garbage. Get a TV that doesn't come pre-installed with spyware.
The answer is an Nvidia Shield.
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>>108653021
Nice bait, here's your (You).
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>Import as "home photos and videos"
I've tried that in the past with a porn folder. It still forcibly looks up its database and now my DP moaning compillation shows a picture of a random Indian series.
O love Jellyfin but it should just let me browse preserving file structure.
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>>108638958
>>have to spend more time organizing folders, filenames and metadata than watching movies
i don't understand, i've been running an arr stack with plex for years and i've never had to manually edit any metadata or do anything, everything just appears in plex automatically with the right metadata as it should
what are you trying to achieve exactly?
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>>108639029
Pretty much why I gave up on these.
I'm seeding about 300GB of anime, and the program instead of organizing things inside it by parsing name, IT LITERALLY RENAMES FILES AND BREAKS EVERYTHING.
It's the stupidest piece of software I've ever used.
You can vibecode a parser and better lib manager in less than 10minutes with Claude, and that's what I did, just few kb of code, and works, unlike Jellyfin/Plex.
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>>108638958
>download movie/tv show onto a simple usb
>plug into tv and watch once
>delete immediately after
I think it's genuinely retarded to hoard movies and shows. You've watched it already why bother watching it again? There's so much to see nowadays it's just a waste of time.
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I want to share my music library with a normal person and ideally through a web browser.
I tried using a fork of Airsonic-advanced but the media library in their webui seems fucked.
I'm considering moving over to gonic for the server and maybe airsonic-refix for the web frontend?
But I considered Jellyfin too.
Any suggestions or alternatives?
I mainly just want to be able to host a server, send someone a link, and they get a music player that can shuffle 1 of 2 different directories.
What's best for this?
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>>108657949
https://www.navidrome.org/
or just set up an FTP server and let them DL your files
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>>108638958
Haven't fucked around with that stuff in years, but it was cool when I had the whole thing automated, from the download, to fetching subtitles, to organizing and tagging, to pre-encoding to the desired formats.
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>>108658050
Thanks.
I forgot to include that one but it was on the "consider" list.
Since you posted it I'll assume its good and try that one first.
Context:
I already have a public HTTP server exposing the directories, but I specifically want a non-tech autistic girl friend of mine to be able to click a link and be able to shuffle a specific folder.
I tried getting her to download a zip but she doesn't have the space so I'm trying to come up with something.