Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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Would it be good practice or just autismo to use a torque screwdriver and use the exact same torque value for every screw in the entire build?

what smoothness setting is closest to native when using DLDSR?

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>>108648931
Both

>>108648947
Idk if it's the closest to native res, but I have my smoothness set to 0%, and it looks fine. I go from 1080p to 4k

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i needed an amp
did i fuck up?

>>108648947
Well 0% is the most sharp
I just use dlaa now but I used to just leave it at default and it was always good

>>108648994
I'm still using a now 10 year old fiio e10k

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>>108649017
i was running one of these i got for $20 ten years ago but it's started randomly losing audio in one speaker and clicking (inside the amp, not on the speakers) like something is tripping.

https://research.nvidia.com/labs/rtr/publication/lin2026restirptenhanced/

NVIDIA PATH TRACING GODS WON

Kinda pisses me off that AIOs and air coolers can't be reused on newer CPUs and save money.

>>108649054
nta but i had one of these too, cheap piece of shit

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>>108649109
AMD lost

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retard from 2 days ago here
I guess this is finally final then, couldn't find a better motherboard locally in the end, so just going to finish the cpu + mobo ordering right now
>ASRock B660M Phantom Gaming 4
>Gigabyte B760M DS3H DDR4
>ASUS B760M-AYW WIFI D4 II
these were the only appealing options I found but the b660 still seemed to be the more sensible choice
supposedly I made a mistake purchasing hyperx fury (2r) over kingston fury (1r), but I'm not doing autistic levels of ram overclocking anyway

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Used an AIO for the first time ever and I really regretted it and having to hear a constant humming from the pump so I replaced it with the noctua G2 cooler. My mobo also sets fans to 100% at boot so I replaced all fans with the Be Quiet Silent Wings Pro 4 that has a physical switch on it to limit the max RPM. Incredibly happy with the setup now and it's completely silent at idle.

didn't really get a straight answer and didn't learn anything reading most (but not all) of the rest of last thread so i'll try again
currently have Dell G2724D but i'm getting VRR flicker when G-Sync and HDR are enabled but only if fps drops below about 80
apparently this isn't a real HDR monitor either

should i try a different IPS or switch to miniLED or (Tandem (W))OLED
last one sounds super expensive

should i post specs or is that just opening myself up to more humiliation?
you're not schizos like my home board, rigth?

>>108649255
>constant humming from the pump
Which one? You could have just turned it down to 50% you know?

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>>108649265
>you're not schizos like my home board, rigth?

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>>108649266
Maybe you're right, but I'm much happier just going back to air cooling like I've always done since I don't have to worry about anything failing. I think it looks better than the AIO by a million too so overall have zero regrets.

>>108649255
the only good AIOs are bequiet ones because they specifically engineer their pumps to be quiet. Every other AIO is rebranded asetek garbage

>>108649321
Yeah I regret not getting a Be Quiet one. Hadn't really used the brand until this build and they will be my go to from now on. I purchased based on "performance" which was retarded as I'm barely even doing cpu intensive stuff ever.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/706431/aoc-q27g4zdr-qd-oled-265-2k-qhd-(2560-x-1440)-240hz-gaming-monitor

this monitor and price any good?

>>108649109
Does path tracing work on the 40 series cards?

>>108649219
Weren't people having problems with the asrock MBs?

>>108649426
Damn seems like a steal to me honestly.

>>108649321
Arctic?

>>108648994
No you did good. Peak chifi.

>>108649442
what about this one?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZWJG5GZ?th=1

>>108649255
unless you need the meme gay rgb fans aircool all the way
if you need a housefire cpu then custom loop
there is never a need for AIO unless you are a faggot of course

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>>108649136
Buy the NH-D15 G2 (almost US $200).
Noctua sent out over 500K mounting kit upgrades to their customers.
https://www.noctua.at/en/expertise/blog/a-cooler-for-life-celebrating-half-a-million-mounting-upgrade-kits

>So expensive!
The metal will practically last forever, the fans should be fine for over 10 years.
U12A was discounted to around $80 in the US (@Woot).

How strong are case and AIO fans really compared to others? I know that those little electric hand fans (which are just portable hair dryers without the heat) have to operate at a pretty noisy level in order to move enough air, but sometimes it feels like case fans barely do anything relatively speaking when putting a hand in front or behind them. Does it all come down to optimizing for making as little noise as possible? Or do those grilles make that much of a difference? If the latter was the case, why don't I see more cases where the fan slots have full cut outs for them? I'm sure they can reinforce the structure of the case by other means like making parts thicker / rolled around those holes.

>>108649539
the included case fans are usually garbage 120mms. if you want to move more air you need a bigger fan.

>>108649219
decent build but Id get a 760 motherboard
>>108649436
only on am5

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>>108649537
why would you buy a noctua bad cooler when you can buy the only air cooler ever made that has 7 heat pipes and a vapor chamber and looks amazing and has better performance instead?

>>108649265
Get an RMA replacement for that G2724D. It's better than buying a new 1440p IPS monitor.
Buying a new IPS monitor only makes sense if you're planning to move up to a 4K monitor.
You need to share your region & monitor budget if you want specific recommendations.

>>108649599
what is it called?

does anyone here have a mora or external radiator watercooling setup? How did you connect all the cables and power the pump?

>>108649599
you can't buy that in america

>>108649599
Why don't you read his fucking point about buying a CPU cooler he can carry over to new platforms over time?
>Kinda pisses me off that AIOs and air coolers can't be reused on newer CPUs and save money.
I didn't know those 7 heat pipes and vapor chamber could shit out new socket brackets.

Do I risk getting a 7800x3d for my asrock b650m hdv/m.2

>>108649566
120s and 140s are bigger than hand fans. And these are all commercial so no cost cutting.

>>108649603
deepcool assassin IV VC elite
>>108649607
am5 coolers are compatible with am6 so you can re-use the cooler for the next 15 years minimum

>>108649622
>deepcool assassin IV VC elite
>banned in the US
what a bummer

>>108649600
what's the reasoning behind RMA
im in US and would feel bad spending more than 300 i guess

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>>108649622
>am5 coolers are compatible with am6
Rumors, not guaranteed.
Noctua already confirmed socket compatibility for Nova Lake's socket platform, AM6 returns 0 results.

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I built a PC to sell. It's my first time.
Can anyone tell me if there are red flags with the benchmarks/temps I have here.
I just did the basics. Furmark, Cinebench and Crystal Disk Info.

>>108649674
doesn't matter
99% of people that buy full systems are normie dumbasses
they aren't like the autists that buy separate components

>>108649674
temps seem fine at least

>>108649674
you're not even showing cpu or gpu temps

>>108649674
Run a free 3DMark benchmark like Steel Nomad and check if the score isn't terrible compared to the average.
Don't be surprised if it scores below average, people run these tests in tuned (OC'd) settings.

>>108649682
I guess autists that buy separate components, like this guy >>108649688, are dumbasses too.

I guess you have a point that most buyers won't notice or care.

>>108649688
The CPU temp under 100% load is 46C. And the GPU under 100% load is 64C. Both are shown in the image.

>>108649703
>Run a free 3DMark benchmark
Isn't that what Furmark is?

>>108649704
there's no cpu temps on the image, those are motherboard temps

>>108649704
>cpu 46c @ full load
dumbass

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>>108649663
>feel bad spending more than 300
You're options are side grades at that budget.
If you're annoyed with IPS VRR flickering, OLED will be even worse.
Use Reflex whenever it's available when GSync is enabled.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/research/vrr-flicker

Are you sure you're annoyed with the flickering vs. screen tearing?
Because IPS panels have the least amount of VRR flickering.

This is how you should be setting up GSync when Reflex is available in game.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/418E-7A04-B0DA-9032

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>>108649713
>>108649723
>those are motherboard temps
Sure about that?

This isn't the same PC, just showing an example, this is my main PC.

>>108649711
Furmark is a GPU heat soak test, no one gives a shit about their benchmark scores.
Newer GPUs deliberately throttle the GPU boost clock when Furmark is running.

3DMark benchmarks gives you a rough idea of how well your system is set up for real time 3D game rendering compared to people with the same CPU & GPU.
The GPU core clocks should be running near maximum frequency (as high as power & thermal limits allow it) in 3DMark tests.

>>108649755
Ah, okay. I see. Thank you.

So I'll do another bench mark with 3DMark.

>>108649754
older platforms have unreliable temperature readings on the motherboard, that's why he has -13c on some component there

How can I identify the cause of microstutter in my system? I never had or barely had any microstutter a few weeks ago but now I have them occasionally in one game which is battlefield 6. I don't know if its because

-I finally unpaused windows update to install a security update,
-an nvidia driver update (prior to the latest driver from a few days ago the driver i had before that was installed after a clean DDU install),
-a game update
-or some other thing in my system that could be causing it

It's not common but it's still way more common than it was before. I'd maybe see one or two microstutter before but now its like 3 or 4 across a ~3-4 hour play session.

>>108649674
The GPU core clock in Furmark is throttling down to 1666 MHz in that screenshot because of the unrealistically high power load.
Even a modest 3070 model like the Zotac reference card can sustain 1800 MHz boost in most gaming loads.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-3070-twin-edge-oc/30.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-founders-edition/32.html

>>108649768
It's probably just multiple monitors running at the same time. Sometimes MSI Afterburner will not let LibreHardwareMonitor read all the core sensors correctly.

>>108649774
Stat by looking for errors in your Windows Event Viewer.

>>108649779
>because of the unrealistically high power load.
I'm pretty new to testing and benchmarking.
I'm going to do another benchmark with 3DMark, but how do I know I'm not using an "unrealistically high power load"?

>>108649255
> constant humming from the pump
You are so fucking stupid that you had the pump run at 100% PWM, right?
People like you need to be told not to dry their poodle in a microwave.

>>108649783
I'm getting increasingly more paranoid that my system has a fuck ton of bloat that I'm not aware of because for example I downloaded some windows health management tool thing the other day and I found a random 10gb cache file for an app I haven't used in like 5 or more years and have since uninstalled, and also my VPN wasn't loading web pages properly but when I decided to reinstall it I found like 8 old duplicate drivers for the VPN going all the way back to 2022 and when I removed them it fixed itself.

I've been using the same windows install for at least 8 years or maybe longer and I'm wondering if I need to do a clean install especially because I've seen moved from intel to amd. Is there an all in one app which allows for quick backup of documents and shit like steam config settings and stuff?

>>108649155
mine wasn't too bad while it was working, but started randomly failing. especially when i moved my desk

>>108649833
I've since*

>>108649833
Reinstalling Windows takes like an hour at most. Just do it.

Also, download Revo Uninstaller. When you remove programs, use that so you can also delete registries at the same time.

>>108649833
at some point you have to reinstall the OS, it's for good measure, just write down everything you need to reinstall beforehand and it's a simple process

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>>108649768
There's no uniform standard of how motherboard manufacturers label their hardware sensors.
Negative values are probably coming from sensor pins in the super IO chip that isn't connected to anything, this should be hidden.
HWInfo keeps a more accurate motherboard to super io ship mapping database because AIBs send them the proprietary register map data.
Librewhatever is relying on the community to add sensor registry maps for the boards they have access to.

>>108649852
Reinstalling windows isnt the problem. I'm happy to do it. I just don't want to lose valuable files because I dont know where everything is located. I suppose I can manually back up my documents folder and the steam/common folder but I don't know if I'm missing shit in like appdata folders or whatever. I'm talking about an almost decade old windows install with shit scattered everywhere.

>>108649136
> AIOs can't be reused on newer CPUs
Of course they can be reused on newer CPUs!
I can even reuse my Arctic Liquid Freezer from my AM4 socket on my AM5 socket.
I can even refill distilled water after removing some screws from the cooler.
The pump can last 20 years if throttled to ~2050 rpm.

>>108649808
>how do I know I'm not using an "unrealistically high power load"?
Don't run Furmark or anything that significantly throttles the GPU core clock down.
There's a difference in the intensity of the GPU workload if the 3070 can't sustain over 1800 MHz core boost clock @ maximum power limit vs. Furmark that throttles down to 1666 MHz at the same power load.

>>108649808
Furmark is a GPU cooler & overall PC cooling test if you run it for extended hours (also a bit of PSU stress test).
3DMark helps you understand whether the PC is running at expected performance levels. It's okay if this untuned PC scores below average.
You want to check that there's nothing seriously wrong with the PC's gaming performance ex. running at 40 FPS when average for that CPU + GPU is 70~80 fps (fps = 3DMark score / 100 on most benchmarks).

>>108649729
When the screen is mostly 2D content, the game fps drops to like 56 according to the monitor's fps counter the one time I bothered checking.
When it's below 80-ish the entire panel's backlight acts like it's turning on and off very rapidly.
It also happens when the game is struggling to keep fps normally with 3D content.
It also happens if the game is running (not sure what fps) and I alt+tab, but not every time. When the game is not running at all, desktop apps have no problem with backlight consistency.
It could just be it's a shitass game or framegen might play into it, idk.

>>108649864
My C drive is a Samsung sata ssd from back in the day and I also have two nvme drives for games and extra storage. I'm wondering if it'd be a good idea to just get another sata drive and install windows fresh on it while keeping my old drive and files in case i meed something, and then eventually wipe it and have it as a 2nd boot drive for bazzite alongside my windows drive, or something like that.

>>108649929
Disable HDR first and see if that changes anything.
If the flicker's noticeable in SDR, it sounds like a faulty unit.

>>108649947
It never happened before I turned HDR on except now I think the game looks ugly without it so I'm stubbornly not going back.
Just tested again with Steam's performance overlay. It's fine with 55-ish FPS / 110-ish DLSS but with one of the specific reliably flicker-y menus it doesn't do DLSS anymore and ranges from 50-70 FPS and causes flicker.

>>108649991
Turned off DLSS and the same 3D area is like 80fps and the 2D menu stays about the same FPS with no flickering.
But now hair and fur looks, idk, shimmery? Like there's little particles that don't have consistent position around the edges of the hair/fur.
I unironically like the DLSS look better. I think playing this game has actively made me more retarded.

>>108649426
>q27g4zdr
This is the QD-OLED monitor with brightness capped to 200 nits in SDR.
If 200 nits are enough brightness for your room, it's passable.
Watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBCypm3pojk

>>108649516
>what about this one?
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZWJG5GZ?th=1
1080p dual mode has some softness filtering, it's not a perfect integer scaling.

>>108650006
The game you're playing might have TAA at native resolution, it's utter shit.
DLSS or FSR4 fixes the smeary TAA mess.
If you want to keep edge lit HDR on, it's your call.

My uncle just passed me down his 3080. What's the most budget build I can make that would make decent use of it? I really only play a few games and none are very demanding.

>>108650039
The cheaper build between AM4 (Ryzen 5000) or LGA1700 (Intel 12~13th gen) DDR4 16 or 32GB RAM PC.
You don't need more than a 5600, 5700X, or 12400, 13600/14600K CPU.
Some older motherboards may need a firmware update to work with one of those CPUs.

>>108650039
get AM4 motherboard and 16 or 32 gb of 3600cl18 ram and wait for the 5800x3d that will release in a few weeks and you'll have a system for years and years

>>108650039
the 3xxx series has some nasty power transient behavior. whatever build you slap around it don't go for some old bare minimum psu that 'should be fine' with it.

>>108650039
Undervolt it and target ~1850 mhz to massively reduce power consumption and heat.

>>108650039
Depends on where, in general an i5 on lga 1700 or a 5600/5700 on am4. 250k wouldn't be that far off

I'm waiting for 6080, which will have 48gb vram, better performance than the 5090, and will be priced at $799 MSRP

>>108650176
wrong, it's going to have 24gb vram

>reccomending intelaviv when the goat 5800x3d is back in production

>>108650179
You're right, I forgot about nvidia's new tech.
The 6090 will have 2gb vram

>>108650181
>the goat 5800x3d is back in production
>costs $999 cause it's the 10th anni special edition™
>won't even be able to get one cause of all the bots and the scalpers
...

>>108650185
the 6080 is going to have 24gb because it'll be literally a 5080 with 3gb gddr7 chips instead of 2gb
the 7080 will have 32gb because it'll have 4gb gddr7 chips
they are not going to put any effort into those cards, they'll just reuse the old board schematics because they don't need to put any effort for them to sell

>>108649599
How about the Noctua NH-P1?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WC64NN8

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>Air coolers

>>108650301
They're literally all you need.

>>108650296
terrible unless you're some sort of audio music producer and requires a fanless build

>>108650310
I'm in a worse pinch, tropical climate. I intend to buy one *and* install fans on it.

>>108650318
if u're outside the US just buy the deepcool cooler instead

>>108650324
Does it have those socket upgrades?

is there a software that hard cleans an old HDD? I'm replacing a few disks and storing the old ones empty, the emptier the better.

>>108650301
Just needs more heat pipes and more vapor chambers and more metal, it's easy. I want to see them make flexible heat pipes so that the concept of "air" coolers can implement large radiator fins and see how that works out.

>>108650033
god fucking damnit it was DLSS super resolution
Switched to FSR with FSR AA and even turned DLSS framegen back on and no backlight flickering yet

Thanks for saving me 300bux

>>108650343
what game?

>>108649434
Why wouldn't it?

>>108650372
Wilds™

>>108650376
Idk I didn't think they'd be nice enough to have it work on 4 year old cards

>>108650332
>hard cleans
ShredOS if you're want secure data wiping, these take a while to complete.
https://shredos.org/

>>108650181
pcpartpicker doesn't show it

What's better for 2tb SSD of internal storage, m.2 or sata?
For cost, speed, and durability.

>>108650431
cool, thanks

>>108650482
m2

>>108649833
This general is doomed with the replies you got.
It's time to install CachyOS GNU/Linux.

>>108650512
I accidentally shredded a 1 TB hard drive instead of just deleting the partition. It took 6 hours to finish.

>>108650751
the reason I wanted to do that is because I assume it'll recover bad sectors and make the drive healthier a bit healthier, am I right?

>>108650482
>cost
Kek
>speed
Pcie 4.0 nvme drive WITH DRAM cache
>durability
Old reliable hard drives. Spinning rust never lets you down

>>108650757
Im no expert, but i don't think it improves anything, because as I understand, shredding just writes and rewrites a bunch of random 1s and 0s over and over on the whole drive.

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I'm curious, how many fellow 9800x3d users here use air cooling, which air cooler, and what are your temps?

>>108650761
dram cache is overrated, HMB is enough and they should upgrade it to use more ram so dram drives stop being a thing

>>108651053
I mean it's still faster than a regular ssd without a dram cache...

>>108651405
in this market it's a luxury, a non-dram drive will suffice

How come China gets all the cool monitors?

I just want flat 32 inch high refresh rate decent VA. I would even accept matte display.

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>>108648852
is there a way to make our own ram at this point? why aren't we ripping components out of old phones?

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>>108649599
>looks amazing
>that hunk of shit.
are you a towel head or something? go worship saturn elsewere

>>108651556
kill yourself, pedophile

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a reminder that only absolute morons buy flagship cards, the sweet spot is the 70 series.

>>108651552
because your dumb ass trying to desolder dram chips one by one isn't going to compete with machines that print out wafers full of them by the millions

>>108650318
If you intend to have fans anyway you are much better off with a cooler with higher fin density / greater surface.

https://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/technology/logic/l_A16

TSMC A16 technology integrates leading nanosheet transistors with innovative Super Power Rail (SPR) solutions, bringing greatly improved logic density and performance.

SPR improves logic density and performance by dedicating front-side routing resources to signals. It also significantly reduces IR drop, improving power delivery efficiency. Most importantly, our novel backside contact scheme preserves gate density, layout footprint, and device width flexibility as traditional front-side power delivery to achieve an industry-first best density and best performance.

Compared to TSMC’s N2P process, A16 will provide an 8-10% speed improvement at the same Vdd (positive power supply voltage), a 15-20% power reduction at the same speed, and up to 1.10X chip density, making it best suited for high-performance computing (HPC) products with complex signal routes and dense power delivery networks.

Nvidia Fenyman GeForce GPUs built on the most advanced TSMC process, Nvidia again making great long term investments and bets on the future CUDA, rt & tensor cores, unlike inferior companies with no forward thinking foresight and vision stuck in the past with outdated obsolete rasterization

>>108651631
who the hell cares? my time is worth money too. if it takes me any more than 2 days to do it then maybe its not worth it but any less and its pure savings

>>108650301
> cramped case
> no easy access to fan headers / DIMMs
> cumbersome to install / uninstall
> not nearly as effective as an AIO
> fans spin up and down with every spike in CPU load
> just enough for budget builds

>>108650176
>>108650179
The 80 has been nerfed to 16GB peasant class for two gens in a row now.
Not even the "Supers" got more VRAM. There is no hope.

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>>108651679
coonsoomer gpu is still made with 6 year old tech

>>108651679
>A16 will provide an 8-10% speed improvement at the same Vdd (positive power supply voltage), a 15-20% power reduction at the same speed, and up to 1.10X chip density, making it best suited for high-performance computing (HPC) products with complex signal routes and dense power delivery networks
thats literally nothing

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-hints-at-unlocked-budget-cpus-robert-hallock-says-more-oc-skus-are-planned

INTEL WON

AYYMDEAD CUC_K CACHE LOST

>>108651878
all it took was for them to lose 80-90% of their diy market marketshare

I'm trying to understand all the jargon. I have a 1600 super and a ryzen 5 3600 that I built 5-6 years ago. It's fine for most things, but drops fps on a few new games. So, apparently a gtx 1080 is better? How does that work? 1660 came out years later but is worse? Why even bother making it? Yes I know this is old shit, I doubt I'll be upgrading any time soon.

>>108651614
>only absolute morons buy flagship cards
Only morons think people who buy flagship cards prioritize value for money.
They are buying those cards to secure a level of performance that won't become mainstream for a while.
An RTX 5080 isn't faster than a 4090 for example. It's practically guaranteed a 6080 won't be faster than a 5090 either.

>>108651923
1660 was entry level GPU for those who couldn't afford RTX 2060, which was entry level RTX.
1080 was top end GPU that outperformed RTX 2070 in pure rasterization.

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>>108651923
A $230 card that's roughly within 20% performance to a GTX 1080 that used to cost $600 is a good deal.
GTX 1000 generation of cards were exceptionally strong.

>>108651932
>>108651967
I'm never gonna remember any of this when it comes time to upgrade. I just happened to see a post on /v/ talking about the 1080, so it'd be nice if I could potentially upgrade for cheap-ish, without needing to upgrade to an AM5 motherboard. I'm not even sure if that's a worthwhile upgrade, for one.

>>108651996
it's not, get a 3060 12gb in a few months and a 5800x3d, that's a good and cheap upgrade

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>cater to amdrones for a decade
>get blacklisted
lol

>>108651996
Version of PCIe on the motherboard barely has any impact on GPU performance, it's negligible.
Even RTX 5090 would do just fine with PCIe 3.0

I upgraded from 3600 to 5700X3D and from 2070S to 9070XT on the same motherboard.

>>108652013
Amd w

>>108651996
It's not worth upgrading to a 1080 if you're not bottlenecked by the 1660 Super's 6GB VRAM.
Save up for a 2070 Super or 3060 instead.

>>108650985
I use a Dark Rock Elite with mine. It's pretty good. I never see the temps go above 70-75c if that even when doing 4k gaming so I can't really complain. It's quiet too with a little tuning.

>>108652013
What the fuck did he expect though?
He went from "here's something I don't like about this new CPU release" to "you're literally sucking Trump's sweaty balls under the desk, Lisa, don't you fuck with me".

>>108652013
GET FUCKED AYYMDEAD NEXUS

>>108652005
>>108652027
Cool, I'll look into those, thanks. 5700/5800 and a 3060 looks like a good option.

>>108652018
Oh, I was under the impression that newer cpus wouldn't be compatible with my old AM4 motherboard.

>>108652013
Why does CCP Steve mention Alex Pretti of all things and try to pin that on Lisa Su somehow? LOL

>>108652013
Steve's probably just making shit up for drama views
Dude has been buck broken by Linus who is now basically just making flex videos to dunk on him so now he's seething and trying to draw in the views with whatever headline and crazy thumbnail he can

>>108652013
This orc overrates his influence in this little hobby, he's not winning vs. NVIDIA, AMD, or even Intel.
He should stick to reviewing cases, CPU coolers, and begging his viewers to fund his GPU reviews.

>>108652013
AMD is a joke

>>108652104
>Oh, I was under the impression that newer cpus wouldn't be compatible with my old AM4 motherboard.
Just make sure you have the right bios or upgrade bios.
5800X3D is reportedly getting re-launched soon, so this will be the best AM4 option for games in particular.

6nm die shrunk 5800x3d*

>>108650039
12600k or above
3080 is wasted on anything below (pretty much the entire 5000 series, x3ds doesn't count because they are extinct)

>>108652219
It will just make the CCD harder to cool, there's this thing called heat density.

>>108652013
must be serious if he's blacklisted but not the guy who leaked fsr4 int8

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>>108652013
LE BASED!

>>108652244
it'll make the cpu 15% more energy efficient

>>108652219
7800x3d on am4**

What's the estimated price on the 5800X3D?

>>108652277
$410

>>108652277
they aren't going to be mass produced so depending on where you are you might as well go am5
they are going to charge it out the ass for enthusiasts (read: retards)

>>108652277
$1500

>>108652261
It'll need a lower power limit or else it will be pushing the same peak power through 18% less surface area (higher heat flux density).
They'll also have to separately shrink the 3D Vcache tile, which is a non-starter.
All that for a chip that might retail for $280~300 given the 7800X3D's market price. Not happening.

How can futureproofing even be a real thing when there's no future to proof on...

>9950x3d2 reviews out 40 minutes ago
>nobody in /pcbg/ talking about it
pc building is dead

Anons, do I go for a wired or a wireless keyboard and mouse?

>>108651923
No. You'll struggle with a 1080, too. I had one until a few months ago. Especially a lot of UE5 slop brings the card to its knees.

>>108652254
>not the guy who leaked fsr4 int8
Because an AMD employee accidentally leaked the int8 FSR4 source code, not some journalist.
The AMD engineer responsible for that leak, and his manager, probably faced serious consequences (termination, demotion, or dead end prospects for the leaker, official written reprimand to the manager for his failure to enforce proper code-review protocol).
The leaker probably lost all his unvested RSUs as well.

>>108652394
I came here to laugh at it but nobody gives a fuck. No wonder since it's complete scam at that price

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>>108652394
here it is

>>108652411
its even worse for releasing this close to zen6 which will have 12-core ccx's, 24-cores total and a new, low latency interconnect and btfo the 9950x's so hard

>>108652335
This anon gets it

>>108652407
AMD still talks and interviews with AncientGameplays and he leaked FSR4.

>>108652439
of course, he's nothing but a shill, it's the same reason they never sued moore's law is dead

>>108652394
Because if you could think for yourself, you already knew it wasn't going change much of what's discussed & recommended in this general.

>>108652439
An AMD employee is the one who leaked the actual INT8 FSR4 source code, Videocardz & Ancient Gameplays reported on it
That source code was mistakenly released as part of the MIT open source license, and it's not legally simple to retract that code.
This is why OptiScaler can still use that mistakenly leaked code in their feature set.

Steve & GN conducted their own research & published their findings to expose AMD's lobbying efforts.

>>108652430
Yeah, I hope Zen 6 is good. I'm on a 7950X3D and I've felt no need whatsoever to upgrade.

https://github.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/releases

NVIDIA WON AND DELIVERS

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AMD's marketing team are making an example out of GN. This is a classic "chat shit, get banged" situation.
Tech companies view these creators as marketing assets. If they become a liability, they lose access to privileged product pre-launch materials.

>>108652575
>>108652013
No it's just GN being cryboys dramaqueen lot of different sites/channels didn't get their sample but they are not making videos crying about it.

>>108652417
>a 9700x’s 1% lows would max out my monitor’s refresh rate
CPU’s are a meme

>>108652745
>ComputerBase, one of the first publications to confirm the dual 3D V-Cache SKU, was also denied. TechPowerUp, HardwareLuxx, eTeknix, PC Watch, and several other outlets appear to be in the same position, with no review coverage published there so far.

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Lol, lmao even

>>108652812
stalker 2 uses the intel compiler?

>>108652812
This game convinced me that building new PC would not be worth it to begin with over AM4 upgrade

>>108652812
9950X3D2 should be twice as fast as 9800X3D if that workload was properly multi-threaded

>>108652887
this game is a piece of shit unoptimized garbage, it runs like shit in every computer

>>108652755
It's an expensive chip with lower production volume.
I don't think the rest of those tech outlets have lost direct marketing communication with AMD.
GN's been relegated to communicating through a third-party marketing group.

When is the roog fire retardant 12vhpwr cables coming out

>>108652394
More like you have to be brain dead to get hype over this.
Or a 12 year old.

Want em prices to skyrocket even higher

thoughts on "hard" mousepads? i'm tired of my regular pads getting all fucked up after a year of use.
the hard pads seem to have a really scratchy sound when you move your mouse around though.
should i be looking for some kind of metal pad?

>>108653327
I have a harder (not metal) pad, the G440.
It's absolute ass. It's way too slippery and it's terrible for precision. And indeed it's scratchy no matter the pads.
Honestly sure the normal cloth mousepads are probably harder to clean, but I'd stick with those.

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>>108652013
Honestly this is better for them imagine having to defend the fact that you shilled EOL garbage after DLSS 5.0 and DXR 2.0 come out later this year or the next

>>108652143
>Steve's probably just making shit up for drama views
that's the opposite of GN's content from what i've seen. they pretty extensively show receipts for claims.
>Dude has been buck broken by Linus
didn't the exact opposite happen where GN showed a lot of bad practices by the LTT team to push out more videos instead of refining methodology?

>>108653376
>Honestly sure the normal cloth mousepads are probably harder to clean, but I'd stick with those.
that's not what i wanna hear, my cloth pads always curl up on the corner where i keep my mouse and rest my palm.
i think i saw some logitech pads that might be cloth but sewn around the edges, maybe that's the play.

>>108653440
Nowadays a lot of pads are properly sewn and you're not gonna have that problem. But you might want to look at the easier ones to clean. Because there's some that are awful at that, some not so.
I have the fnatic focus 3 (2 whole XXL pads actually, on an L shaped desk) that I got when they were cheap and it's a bit annoying to clean them because they're fuckhuge but it's doable.

>>108653466
cleaning isn't much of an issue for my end, i use pretty high dpi, fully crossing the screen is only about 1.5 inches of mouse movement so it typically stays in the corner of the pad.
something even as small as a 6" x 6" pad would be enough for my needs.
i appreciate your input

https://www.techpowerup.com/348400/no-ryzen-9950x3d2-for-techpowerup-gamers-nexus-or-computerbase

LOLMAO AYYMDEAD KNOW IT'S SHIT SO THEY DON'T LET REVIEWERS REVIEW IT

steve has a bunch of videos with AMD engineers, one is indian and the other is a lanklet white guy, so no idea why would they get blacklisted like that

>>108653626
i'm guessing the reality is a bit of politics and a bit of they don't have enough time and samples.
they probably lowered their priority on getting a sample to GN due to negative coverage but weren't looking to actually blacklist them but also for whatever reason they didn't have enough hardware set aside and put through hell and back before sending out as their premium samples to get reviewed.

>>108653689
they for sure have enough samples, even skatterbencher got one, he was indeed blacklisted and it backfired because all the reviews are very negative even from wendell, whos' a big shill for any and all products he gets his hands on

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There's literally 0 positive opinion on the 9950x3d2 anywhere on the internet, it's ogre

>>108653440
Glass mouse pads are meant for ultra enthusiast competitive gamers who want consistent feel to their setup.
If you're not good enough to make the most out of a Wallhack mouse pad with etched surface, stick to cloth pads.
https://youtu.be/PwuKgQjvvyM?t=237

>>108653735
>whos' a big shill for any and all products
Shill or just nerd with an outlook positive enough to find good in just about anything?

>>108653746
its very positive on the linux side. its very lackluster on the windows side. windows applications and scheduler is too dumb to utilize the cpu.

>>108653758
wendell is a huge shill, I like the guy, but you should never trust his opinions on any product he's showing

>Release x86v4 CPU
>Bottleneck it with x86v2 OS called Windows
Kek

>>108653735
>they for sure have enough samples
on a high end enthusiast product like this? doubtful.
they hyper-select for super quality samples, and then those few samples get shipped around to the reviewers, every reviewer doesn't get their own sample.
the reason everyone has a video to drop the day of a product launch is they all get them months in advance to account for this, which is why i mentioned not only the lack of samples but also the lack of time. probably just didn't prioritize getting them theirs and the timing didn't work out due to low sample count and shipping time and all that.

>>108653746
The 9950X3D2 was always going to be costly because it needs two Vcache stacked CCDs.
AMD can still sell a 9800X3D or 9850X3D for over $400.

>>108653840
vcache is not as expensive as people pretend it to be, it's like +$100 on the chip

Got a 10900k machine with 32gigs of 3600 ram. Is it worth while to try and overclock the ram or is it a waste of time?

>>108653882
no, it's very good and yields great results but it's hard, just enable xmp and be done with it

>>108653874
Going off AMD's pricing its less than that
9950x -> 9950x3d = +$50
9950x3d -> 9950x3d2 = +$200
They resisted it for so long and priced it to fail

>>108653874
It's more about preserving the margins of those Vcache stacked CCDs.
They'd be dumb to sell the 9950X3D2 for under $800.

>>108653882
same setup, no real need to push for more performance.
i spent a few weeks messing with my stuff just to end up resetting to default months later.
all you really need to consider is lowering voltage a bit on cpu for temps.

>>108653920
I might do that, my long term goal for this PC is to run Win10 forever.

>>108653938
>spyware as a service
why not just run linux forever and wine/steam games

>>108653987
Because I'm a Winbaby retard. Everytime I try Linux I bounce off it.

>>108654005
i can respect that. personally i'd prefer a win7 machine over 10 but i jumped ship years back, only thing i can't do on linux that i could on windows is get past some anti-cheats for games.
everything else is the same or better experience, depending on if you are willing to tinker and fix stuff when you run into something you don't like or small issues to fix.

>>108654050
Well, I Already have a Windows 7 box. I also have a Vista box, XP Box, 98SE box and a 95/DOS box.

My 10900k build is my legacy Win10 build. Have a 4070ti super to keep phsyx compatibly.

>>108654086
that's pretty comfy, i wish i had an xp box still, i do have a win7 laptop in the basement and a xp iso and some old games like daiblo 2 laying around, one day i'll get a charger for it.
not a fan of windows 8? personally hated vista.
used windows from dos 3.0 through 10.
7 was the last good windows imo, 8 was a decade before its time with the original layout being meant for touch screens/tablets.
10 had some nice qol features but not worth the bloatware/telemetry aids that got packaged in.

>>108654156
I do have a machines for Windows 8. Mostly 8.1 where they kinda fixed the desktop.

I also have multiple machines for each os. For example for win98 I have a Tulatin 1.4 with an voodoo 3 and a Aureal 2 sound card. I have faster 98 machines but that one is my favorite.

my problem with switching to linux is installing .exe stuff, like gog games, idk how I'd do it and I havent researched it yet too

>>108652335
It proofs against your idea of "there's no future to proof on..."

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https://www.pcmag.com/news/asus-raises-rx-9070-xt-prices-by-up-to-175-overnight

>>108654245
wine or use steam and hit add non steam game and hit properties > compatibility > Proton.
steam/proton has quickly become king of windows emulation on linux, though if you run into issues and messing with the versions of proton doesn't fix it, WINE should have you covered.

is there a site like gsmarena but for monitors?

>>108652013
>Don't get given free shit.
>Pitch a fit and start crying about Muh Blacklist.
Yeah, they didn't send me a free $1000 processor either. How fucking dare they.

Can anyone link a ddr4 overclocking guide? I might spend the time after all trying to see what it can do

>>108653515
thats fine, the reviewers that they let review it panned it as well. Probably the nicest was Level1.

>>108654370
>free $1000 processor
that's not how this works.
they send a sample that you have to sign an NDA for along with some points that they want you to mention and when you're done you send it back to them so they can send it to another reviewer, it's very very rare that you get to keep shit that's sent to you for review, certainly not anything above $100

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What's with the socket temps being so high? Sensor not actually connected?

>>108654651
>Muh LibreXYZ
Quit being a faggot and use HWInfo.

>>108652400
If you're not sure, always wired.

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>>108654665
Ok fag

>>108652400
both, you probably have plenty of free usb ports anyway
t. both kb/m are on 2.4ghz mode when regular browsing or I feel like watching something from bed, and I plug them back in when gaming (difference is probably negligible anyway)
bluepoop is garbage btw, always go 2.4ghz dongle if wireless

>>108654681
The socket temperature was probably a false alarm.
Compare the M.2 drive temperature reading as well.

i was wondering about the sudden influx of posts, nigger cant help but shitpost about amd whenever hes not banned

>>108654852
I figured, there's no drive for M.2 sensor to read either.

>>108654470
You're right, most of these things get rotated through the reviewers.

I bet companies like Intel and amd are sending binned chips. I wouldn't be surprised if gpu manufacturers were doing the same. Just rotate the same god tier 1 in a million bin around all the techtuber channels so they can give it a review as though the top scoring chip of the entire production run is somehow close to whatever garbage is getting shipped to the local microcenter.

>>108653440
get a better, and longer mousepad, get the mouse-mats, if they're long enough to dangle over the desk slightly, they wont curl against you.

>>108654879
M.2 drive temperature might be provided in the dedicated SSD section in HWInfo.
I doubt your drive is idling at over 60°C.

>>108653440
Got one of these "cloth speed" large gaymer mousepads that cover the entire desk myself
They're sewn to a layer of rubber and never slips no matter how aggressive I get, it's just the right amount of slippery to me
Chinkshit meaning very cheap, couldn't be happier

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Is this a decent price given current situations?

>>108655386
No, I meant that there's no M.2 drive installed in it so libre hardware monitor is probably just getting some bogus reading, hwinfo doesn't show the sensor under motherboard.

>>108655719
25% off current retail, not bad

>>108655719
Yeah go for it, the only thing cheaper than it that's worth a damn is a b580 unless you're one linux.

>>108655719
Next realistic upgrade is at $600, so probably.
Could also look at a used 3080 assuming you have a decent powersupply

>>108655837
>b580 unless you're one linux
do intel cards not work on linux?

>>108655891
They work fine and set up is easy these days, but you'll lose about 30% performance on proton compared to windows when gayming.

>>108655904
>but you'll lose about 30% performance on proton compared to windows when gayming
specifically due to intel cards/drivers on proton?

>>108655923
Yeah, mesa drivers for them need more development to be up to par with amd.
You're better off with amd cards for the time being if you don't want to dual boot into windows to play games.

>>108655904
Isn't that Nvidia? Intel uses mesa.

>>108655941
my nvidia gaming on linux through proton and wine is better than it was on windows, never had an amd card

>>108655971
Delusional

Gsync pulsar monitors now going on sale because bad sales
nobody is buying that niche shit

Are ASrock motherboards still killing CPU's?

>>108655995
>nooo you can't have better performance than my bloatware+spyware as a service "OS"

>>108656020
It's too restricting. Only usable on Windows, you own Nvidia, and your setup is so shit you excessively rely on VRR instead of smooth line.

>>108655941
Yes, still needs work though. Intel hired some people recently to help out with the mesa driver let's see if lasts though and they don't just abandon gpus altogether.

Do miniLED IPS monitors just look like standard backlit ones in SDR? I'm not sure how much HDR content I'll be playing, and if most games are going to have as grey blacks as my current IPS I don't see much sense in going miniLED.

>>108656088
They have so many dimming zones that you shouldn't see any backlights except for HDR in dark content. It's still IPS so the pixels and lights never turn off like OLED and the response times aren't instant.

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>>108648994
>bluetooth
>wireless
>outdoor
>same on-device controls as a $15 unit
>no fm tuner or remote
Usecase for dropping a benjamin on this instead of something considerably cheaper?

amd kind of squandering some of their 'can do no wrong' goodwill releasing junk like the 9850 and these x3ds

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>>108649265
>>108649991
>Dell G2724D
>apparently this isn't a real HDR monitor either
What are you on about?
https://displayhdr.org/certified-products/#tab-400
It's VESA-certified. On the lower end, HDR400, but it's true HDR. Do you not have it set up right? Make sure you actually calibrated the HDR too, Windows has a tool for this, and your gpu's control panel needs to be on 10-bit full color, not limited.
It doesn't have a billion dimming zones so it still won't be like those $10k super displays every techtuber jerks off, but it has it.
t. owner of the same display

>>108656152
You get what you pay for
The more expensive amp is a somewhat known quantity being based on a tpa3255 which is capable of hundreds of watts real RMS power output depending on the power supply and cooling.

The cheaper amp if you really dig into the listing is only good for 30w per channel RMS. The 12V input only needing 5 amps at 12V gives away the power it's capable of.

>>108656206
>hdr
that shit is the biggest meme and entirely unnecessary for displaying colors that aren't available in sdr the colorspace, it does not justify making an entirely new hardware spec

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Between the Samsung T7 and the Crucial X9 Pro, which external SSD is the most reliable?
Are either of them subject to the bait-and-switch gacha shenanigans?

>>108656159
Not everything has to be about gayming performance.
There is room for just a plain old enthusiast product which often means just having the most hardware you can, even if the advantages are very slim.

>>108656159
All IHVs are full of shit. This is why brand warrioring for them is super retarded.

I hate that clean installing windows is a dice roll on whether or not it's going to be a good install or have some nonsense problems. Guess this clean install was a bad roll.
Just work you piece of shit OS holy shit.

>>108656319
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

sfc /scannow

>>108656319
>"clean install"
>it's 50 random scripts after the fact

>>108656360
>makes baseless assumptions
>feels good about it

For gaming and productivity is 27 or 32 inch better for 4k? Also the miniled 4k listed here looks nice anything like that at 32 inches? I do not want oled because of burn in.

>>108656443
Does your national language have diacritics? If so, bigger is better.

>>108656443
idk if it's still true but for the longest time the 27" ips panels for 4k were total trash, not sure which batch or supplier it was so someone who remembers better could give more info

>>108656360
>>108656395
unless you are using the iso just released last week you are most likely gonna have to do multiple windows updates and this will absolutely brick your drivers in someway.

>>108656514
Are there cumulative updates for it? If so install, if not install drivers after updates are done.

>>108656573
If something bricks its near impossible to rollback the update without a clean install as Microslop in their infinity wisdom has bundled feature/bug updates with security updates.

>>108656632
the bundle is meant to force you to get the feature updates

>>108649591
yeah I considered a b760m, but wasn't convinced those models were better than the asrock b660m one
only gpu left now
honestly considering giving up on the used 3080ti for now, I got too ambitious
it costs basically the same as all parts together (if you remove the ssd)
I wonder how far I can downgrade, I only care about maxxing out anime + madvr as high as possible for now

>>108656656
they intentionally made it near impossible to rollback security updates and now they're bundled with features.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/understanding-the-risks-why-you-should-not-uninstall-security-updates-52b21351-8e09-477d-b19a-b55d1c77f377

>>108653417
are you retarded? GN is unwatchable with gags. i dont know if this fat virgin understands this or not but hes not funny

>>108656395
I just know how the younger generations talk.

>>108656514
You just let windows update.
Most drivers will likely be installed depending on system. The only 2 things that are really of concern afterwards are GPU drivers (Windows update gives out old ones) and chipset drivers (not all INFs are supplied for some reason)
If you have thunderbolt there might be an additional one required.
My system stability has always been perfect.

>>108656747
>I just know how the younger generations talk.
swag

>>108656747
>>108656721
>you just let windows update
I've been doing that one one of my pcs and now it literally cant display thumbnail images at all. its hot dogshit.

>>108656769
>literally cant display thumbnail images at all.
works on my machine(i use arch linux btw)

>>108656796
my windows machines work great just not vanilla windblows. linux is also a barely functional mess unless you know how to update a kernals perams without breaking your os.

>>108656818
>linux is also a barely functional mess unless you know how to update a kernals perams without breaking your os.
>birth_install=$(stat -c %W /); current=$(date +%s); time_progression=$((current - birth_install)); days_difference=$((time_progression / 86400)); echo $days_difference days
>744 days
works
on
my
machine

>>108656769
I've literally never had such an issue.
Process was always
>wipe drive
>Install windows from microsoft provided ISO
>let updates finish
>Install chipset drivers to satisfy device manager
>run massgrave
>update GPU drivers

>>108656747
The newest Windows Update has been bricking network devices and gpus. Doesn't affect everyone ofc but it exists.

>>108656088
>>108656108
Mini ped works well on my tv, but I have doubts about it being functional in smaller monitors.
One of the reasons why it works in my 75 inch tv is because the leds have room between eachother than a small monitor wouldn't have. More space less bleed, less space more bleed.

My miniled tv just barely passes for the hdr designation and the hdr content still looks miles better when done correctly. The problem is actually getting it to function. Most sources seem to have no idea what its working with while others handle and display it fine.

>>108656929
At the end of the day most people can walk into a electronics store and see the TVs and Monitors for display and pick what's best. Almost everyone leans towards QD because of the viewing angles it's so noticeable just walking down the aisle.

>samsung s95h is 500€ cheaper than the s95f in 55" which means the sales will be even better
>must be because of the s99h launch which is positioned above
>s90h in my country at 77" will be qdoled
>s95h and s90h 48" now, do they have the tandememe panel from LG?
many interesting TV pills coming up

>buying a scamsung tv
KEK