>>108649008
>You really don't think you can do better?
no, i have the marketing and sales skills of a dead fish
i hate lying to people and i lack charisma so my place in society is the coder who writes in the basement
but i have come to terms with that

My dad did not own several emerald mines.

>>108649056
Exactly, takes money to make money. Helps immensely if you're a retard with an extremely rich dad vs a normal person with poor parents.

>>108649056
Fake story. He never owned emerald mines. He did trade emeralds briefly, but that's it.

Also, Elon was poor and homeless when he arrived in Canada and started contacting people and building shit. He literally just slept in the rural houses of distant relatives and shit.

why don't you, homo

>>108649045
you get it at least.

elon musk never sold material product in his fucking life. he always, always, always sold shares. that's it. this is what people don't understand. he is basically a stoke broker, selling financial mechanisms. those mechanisms are shares in the companies he owns. he then used the money to make new companies to sell shares in. those companies sold shares not because they were profitable, but because he pushed them further doing novel stuff than the competition. and then he hyped the novel stuff to sell more shares. he's a hype man. always was.

he's been doing it for decades and it's worked and people still call him a no-nothing idiot. it's amazing to watch.

>>108649008
he looks like a reptiloid on that pic

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>>108649084
meanwhile irl

>>108649084
He got at least $40 million from dear old dad (who fucked and married his stepdaughter. look it up)

>>108649225
>looks like

>>108649218
so he's exploiting the financial system and selling hype in order to create novel products and technologies that are better than existing ones? sounds good to me, I don't really see the problem.

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>>108649339
Based father

>>108649359
basically yeah

>I don't really see the problem
he makes some people incredibly angry for some reason.

Billions of people with less than zero net worth while there are trillionaires walking around and shitting on airplanes. You need to learn how to hunt and forage if you want to survive the next few years. Since the price finally went down on some kind of raw fat I took my chance to buy a decent amount. I ordered 12 lbs raw lamb suet, 1 lb goat liver, 1.5 lbs lamb hearts, 1 lamb brain (4oz), and 1 lb of lamb leg steaks. I never cared to read any books except for a few relating to health, since I thought those ones would be useful to me.

I'm considering growing berries in my backyard since I can't get untainted berries at any store. I don't know much at all about growing plants, but my mother does. I'd like to eat some moldy too. I tried that once with the least tainted berries I could get at Walmart. They were still sprayed with some kind of pesticide. They were also previously frozen, which is generally less of an issue for fruit than for meat. I wasn't harmed, but it's questionable how helpful it was to eat them.

Eating proper moldy berries will allegedly help with detoxifying from heavy metals, presumably through biosorption. Aajonus Vonderplanitz recommended it to people who were vaccinated at any point in their life due to the mercury and aluminum in vaccines. According to him it can be dangerous if you eat too many moldy berries. For most people he only recommended 3 moldy berries a week. Some can handle more. If you eat too many, a high quantity of heavy metals could be forced out of your tissues & into your bloodstream in a short period of time, which could very easily do more harm than good. The same thing can happen with the drugs & herbs other people use to try detoxifying themselves from heavy metals. Now is a good time to start eating moldy berries.

>>108649008
I don't have daddy's blood emerald fortune and apartheid connections to get me started.

>>108649008
I don't want to go be a clown in front of VCs, media and the entire world for a slim chance of making some money.

>>108649008
>The guy is a retard who lies about everything
that's the important part, not the knowledge of tech: you need to sell.

>spends most of his time on Xitter or playing video games.
you fell for the lies lmao. rich people have teams of marketing people writing shit for them.
also, from comments I've read, he hires other people to play (and win) games for him.
also, HIS HAIR IS FAKE you retard. this guy was bald when young kek.

>>108649084
kek

>>108649008
Why can't you just give me a billion and leave me to do whatever I want?

I mean, if he's lying and just dancing around telling other people what to do, what's the difference in what I do?

>>108649084
>building shit

he built paypal, which is the most fucking dogshit payment platform you could use

Reminder Elon moved to america with 10 dollars in his pocket and no other assitance, you have no excuse.

>>108649653
You're right I should kill myself for not being Elon Musk and definitely not cave your skull in with a sledgehammer.

>>108649008
Musk doesn't actually have that much money that he can use. He barely has 80bil that he can use as a company and a fraction of that he can use for himself.

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>>108649358
Why do you lie?

>>108649668
Yeah, he's not very liquid. Dude is kind of a poorfag in actual fact.

Simply close your eyes and wish for money thats how life works

>>108649664
You are jealous.

>>108649776
I'm not, my penis is probably bigger than his.

Do you want to think about penises? Faggot?

>>108649635
>the most fucking dogshit payment platform
Cope. Swearing doesn’t make your imbecilic opinion correct, this isn’t reddit.

>>108649782
Hmm Musk won.

>>108649802
Yes he did, pedophiles won.

>>108649806
He has multiple kids.

>>108649798
>Speak to my bank when payments go wrong
>"Okay, fill out this form, we'll sort it out, we are a real bank after all"
>Speak to paypal when payments go wrong
>"Lol, tough shit kid LMFAO #niggas"

Great platform.

>>108649809
Oh you got me there, good job.

>>108649008
heh

>>108649814
My bank doesn't give me credits.

>>108649008
Why would I want to work for people I don't like? Why would I want to hire people I don't like? Why would I want to work in the first place? Least of all, why would I aspire to be a shyster? I assume that sounds exciting for people in the cult of Hermes or worshippers of Baal, but I have no interest in those things, and even if I did I wouldn't want the attention of people who already make those industries insufferable.

>Elon Musk has lots of kids so he's good

Sure, okay faggot.

>>108649838
I have clear evidence of being scammed relating to a paypal purchase and they simply close the case and there is nobody I can speak to or go to because it's just a fucking website/payment processor, they aren't a bank.

>>108649862
how do you even get scammed

>>108649941
Trust people who are lying to you.

>>108649862
Pro tip: Send a letter to their legal department, just have AI draft it for you. They’ll do a calculation on whether they just want to settle with you for whatever amount is, and it’s based on whether it’s worth their time to fight you. Typically you get your way.

>>108649978
I got scammed like $20, it's not a big amount.

>>108649978
>>108650040
But I really should start using AI to make my financial situation better, maybe.

>>108649084
everyone is eagerly awaiting the day you accidentally kill yourself via ket overdose, elon

>>108649390
>Eating proper moldy berries will allegedly help with detoxifying from heavy metals, presumably through biosorption. Aajonus Vonderplanitz recommended it to people who were vaccinated at any point in their life due to the mercury and aluminum in vaccines. According to him it can be dangerous if you eat too many moldy berries. For most people he only recommended 3 moldy berries a week. Some can handle more. If you eat too many, a high quantity of heavy metals could be forced out of your tissues & into your bloodstream in a short period of time, which could very easily do more harm than good. The same thing can happen with the drugs & herbs other people use to try detoxifying themselves from heavy metals. Now is a good time to start eating moldy berries.
That isn't how any of that shit works.

>>108649008
jewlon is backstopped by the jewish banking mafia. they can create any amount of money through jew york fed that's why tesla is 392x earnings and he can just start a chip fab overnight.

>>108650086
I know it sounds cheesy, but it’s actually one of those ‘lifehacks’ that works. I had a local franchise citing corporate policy for refusing (incorrectly) to honor a warranty and this approach resolved it within two days. Companies just often default deny you because 95% of the time customers don’t even push back to defend themselves.

>>108649008
>>>/p/edosky
you lost tranny

>>108649008
Still mad about twitter?

>>108649635
Elon also singlehandedly made space exploration and electric vehicles economically viable. Say what you will but the man is a genius and xAI will be his next breakthrough.

>>108650558
>Elon also singlehandedly made space exploration and electric vehicles economically viable

I highly doubt that is correct, wasn't Tesla already a company before he bough tit?

>>108649635
Paypal was made with others, they just merged with x.com which was the company that Musk was running.

>>108649008
How many emerald mines your family got?

>>108649084
>homeless
Elon got an injection of 300 million from his Dad to "build shit"
>distant relatives
Silver spoon.

>>108649339
aaaaand #RÖÖÖKT

>>108650558
All faggot shit

>>108650614
Nothing existed before Musk, except 2 guys with a name, a name that they didnt legally own the trademark to. Which Musk had to pay some random guy to sell the name to him as well.

No factory
No car
No IP
No employees
No trademark

Only thing the 2 guys who claim to be the founders of Tesla had was an document incorporation. And they lost the court case to remove all the co-founders from being called co-founders. One of the co-founder guy sued Tesla to claim he and his friend were the real co-founders. But he had no standing, so he vacated and settled. He was fired for mismanaging Tesla and was on the verge of bankruptcy. He was promised the first Roadster, and didnt get it after being fired. So he sued Tesla for it. Musk didnt give him the first Tesla. He instead got a Tesla that was crashed in testing and rebuilt. Kek.

The wiki pages are made up of lies.

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>>108649008
What did he build?

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>$800B and still all cringe.

>>108651288
One day he will have the power to punish people like you who snipe him from the peanut gallery.

he has so much money and is so busy he pays people to play games for him

I wonder if he pays people to fuck his baby mommas as well

>>108651299
top kek

>>108651294
He'll still be cringe.

>>108649056
Also, I'm not a Jew with Jew cousins working at a bank willing to loan me billions at 0 interest whenever I run out of money.

>>108649709
>member of elites lying about his past
can't be!

>>108651299
Gossip is his dick doesn't work after failed enlargement surgery and all his children were conceived through IVF.
Seems like bs if it were about a normal person, but it kinda does sound like what Elon would do.

>>108649339
So he didn't pay taxes because it was under the table

>>108650558
It was economically viable in 1965, so viable that soviets could afford to do it, but somehow today it's not and you think it is?

>>108649008
If a person has the will to make great things, their boss is never going to pay them to do that.

Your boss is in the business of making money.
He has found the way to take other people's money with a niche thing called balancing a checkbook.

It's simple you have 20 employees all doing a different thing.
You pay them $2 per product, you pay $0.5 per product for materials, then you sell the product for $10 each.

Making money is not a matter of doing something great or improving society. It's a matter of ruining as many people's lives as possible, exploiting every single cent you can.

>>108649008
Let me teach you the trick of the transaction, you don't ever need to pay a person for their work if they don't ask for money between each exchange.

It's simple, take as much as you can for free, then fuck off as soon as it comes time to pay. Businesses in China and India do it all the time.

If you think it's bad now, imagine how bad it will get if these people aren't killed.

>>108649008
Now let me teach you about the good person lock. Never let a good person do trades. They belong in the backroom never talking to anyone, they are easily controlled with a minimal wage and hard work.

If all the good people are in the backroom then all the bad people can take all the money.

>>108651503
>>108651516
>>108651526
This is the reason why hacking is moral. All these subtle tricks are used on us to keep us away from ever attaining the life we deserve.

These monsters have locked us out. They all live in the same neighborhoods protected by a car requirement to access their neighborhoods.

>>108651539
>hacking
Gay.
Different word should be used in your sentence, but you're still too much of a pussyfaggot for that.
"They" got you exactly where they want you to be.

>>108651526
lol

>>108649008
>is a retard
Stop lying.

I hate threads made by shitlibs. Shitlibs are just mini-Trumps, they never stop saying stupid shit because of their feelings.

herbs

Correction: he doesn't play videogames. Musk is an incredibly talented bullshit artist. Dario, Sam, Zuckerberg, Jensen, nobody has that level of ability to lie and have a room/investors captivated. Steve Jobs wasn't even close to as good as Musk. Every 30u30 fraudster gets caught eventually but Musk is untouchable.
>>108652811
Yeah he's probably decently high verbal IQ.

>>108651200
>No factory

You don't seriously believe that Elon Musk himself designed the Tesla factories, or any of "his" factories for that matter, do you?

Your little token autist got endlessly rich through Paypal and I hit the nail on the fucking head.

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>>108652835
You think asskissers at your job genuinely believe in every bullshit coming out of your boss's mouth?
No, they pretend to to remain in his good graces.
The same goes for investors.
They pretend to believe in Musk's lies because he is proven to be in the close proximity of the money printer.
People don't fall for big lies, they "fall" for lies backed with big money.

Just look at all those assholes in this picture.
Do you honestly think they believed wearing heavy crap on your head to access shitty second life clone was the future?
Of course not, but everyone played along because everyone wanted a portion of those facebook billions to trickle into their pockets.

>>108653313
He's still better at it than anyone else. Big tech stocks are most certainly overvalued right now but there is still an underlying money-printing machine (namely, selling ads), but Musk has none of that. He only has money-burning machines except Tesla, which is widely believed to be the most overvalued stock. Other big tech companies at least do something well. Musk has almost nothing to work with except vague promises that never come even close to coming true.

>>108653465
Tesla or SpaceX didn't make Musk rich. Being an US-appointed carbon credit dealer did.
The fact he was put in that position means he's extremely well connected and that's what investors are impressed with, not his lies or what his companies make.

if bill gates had kept his microsoft share, he would have +1.5 trillions now and +100 billions in dividends (cash$) which is even crazier.

>>108649008
wtf makes a company like tesla (noncompetative with chinese companies) and spacex (non competative with the government 60 years ago) worth trillions?

>>108653676
speculation and bots.

>>108653695
I think it's just that china is mostly closed off in terms of stocks. Once the dollar collapses which is looking increasingly likely china will open their market to $BRICS and our P/Es will fall to like 1 or 2 which will wipe out (currently) 65 trillion -> 3T . But probably more like ~100T->4T at the time.

>>108653739
tesla over evaluation started with redditors. around 2019/2020 they begun doing "yolo bets" by buying a lot of call options far head of the current price which tricked bots to buy shares which started a chain reaction between bots and investors. now tesla is more than a car manufacturer: batteries, robots, processors, ... and may become a mega corp.

>>108653784
He is going to merge spacex, twitter and tesla. How very efficient, loading a rocket company with tens of billions in debt from glorified rss company. How could China ever compete?

>>108653804
tesla is already public, never elon will pass an ipo on spacex.

getting rich is all about networking, marketing, being a psychopath, having no empathy for people you will fuck over to get to your goals, and being able to convince other people to throw their money at you
not about your actual skills

>>108649008
Paper wealth..
I know he is richer than 99.99% of the faggots out there but it's stupid to call him a near-trillionaire, because in reality if he were cash in all his tesla stock. it would crash.

>>108653004
NTA but you're goalpost shifting
There is clearly a distinction between Musk lead companies and "traditional" ones.
Not a single company would have built something like Giga Texas under 2 years
Giga Shanghai was done in ten months and building cars.

I've yet to see any company build such large scale facilities so quickly in modern times. To say Musk has nothing to do with them because he personally wasn't out there laying pipe is disingenuous.

>>108649008
lol Musk born in 1971 is 54 years old, he is almost a fucking boomer.

>>108654568
he's not.

>net worth
if tesla or spacex or x go under that 795 billion quickly becomes -$2.60 overnight

>>108649339
we trust snopes now? which mine was it exactly?
also what is Erol musk's net worth?

>>108649008
A fraction of his """wealth""" could cure world hunger
Its a shame he pussied out of it before because hes a cunt lol

>>108649008
>playing video games
He doesn't play video games at all and just hires people to play games for him to troll retards. That's pretty based and the reaction from gamers has only made them look even more pathetic.

>>108649862
Why would they eat the cost of you getting scammed? Most financial institutions won't take the hit because you were a huge retard.

>>108655244
>A fraction of his """wealth""" could cure world hunger
No it couldn't you huge retard.

>>108649008
Even after insulting the president his net worth doubled, lol.

>>108653313
>Do you honestly think they believed wearing heavy crap on your head to access shitty second life clone was the future?
In this case, they're basically all retarded boomers that are completely unaware of what already exists so yes.

>>108649339
hes a massive schizo too its fucking hilarious to watch him rant in interviews

>>108649709
>Elon has disputed this
Show me the fucking receipts.

how come he just sorta took off in the relatively recent past?
for the longest time, the richest dude in the world was bill gates in my mind. and then suddenly its this elon musk guy. how does that happen? how did he accelerate so quickly?

>>108655548
Gates sold the vast majority of his shares. He would be worth more if he didn't.

>>108655548
"net worth" is really just tied up in illiquid assets
for elon musk, its all in stock of massively overvalued companies
he cant even sell off a significant portion without the illusion shattering and the value tanking
meanwhile microsoft is valued normally, its market cap is pretty real

>>108649008
At least my dick still works.

>>108655548
Government gimmes and sniffing maga's balls.

>>108655548
It's not real money. It's shares in over valued stock.
Of course, when you can use it as collateral it might as well be real money.

>>108655792
>meanwhile microsoft is valued normally, its market cap is pretty real
Microsoft is far more vulnerable and will almost certainly fall apart long before Tesla and SpaceX.

>>108649008
>The guy is a retard who lies about everything
you sound like an unemployed schizo

>>108655825
>Delusions of a gnutard

>>108649008
if it makes you feel better he seems like the type to cry about spilled milk after his companies end up with a normal valuation

>Why don't you just...
When you want to suggest something other people should do to succeed, you should assume:
- They don't have more than $20 to their name
- They don't have relatives who can help them
- They don't have any social connections

And they still need to pay rent and buy food every day.

>>108649045
fpbp

>>108649008
All billionnaires have 1 thing in common, they are never content/happy with their situation. The mindset that allowed them to get that rich is also the one that makes it impossible to enjoy that money.

>>108649008
This retard didn't build shit. The engineers, programmers, and scientists he pays did. He's no smarter than any retard posting here. He just had more money to start out

>>108649008
the guy has like 15 kids and 3 wives that hate him

Its not that i'm incapable of making $9 bajillion dollars, its that you have to be a certain level of high functioning sociopathic that throws hundreds (or in Elons case thousands) under the bus and fuck them over

lie to them, fuck them career wise, get them fired, push them out, backstab them, betray them

You have to be prepared to do basically anything to your friends and colleagues to get to the top like that

Bezos and Zuckerberg are the same


You have to be a total toxic piece of shit to basically everyone in your life for like 20-30 years

IMO its not worth it, better to just be an employee at a smaller company or start your own small / mid size company

>>108649008
It's not that I can't do better. It's just that I don't want to stoop down to his level to get it.

>>108649008
>The guy is a retard who lies about everything and spends most of his time on Xitter or playing video games. You really don't think you can do better?
I'm not good at being an awful human being.

>>108655071
this
even my dad is more older than him

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>be told bill gates built everything in a garage
>be me at 10: thats awesome
>work hard to be like bill gates
>still struggling
>barely making any gains
>very smart like gates but still nothing

>fast forward 20 years later
>find out gates was just a nepo baby all along
>got funded millions of dollars for his business
>actually wasnt that smart at all
>family is in with the elites and jews

I never stopped being angry.

>>108653514
I really fucking hate how fake fiat money is

>>108654057
thats most rich people. they all have fake wealth. they probably do have assets like houses, land, and other shit, but it's not liquid and it wont give them the life they have now.

>>108657325
The businessmen and the investors are far more important than the individual engineers, programmers and scientists you liberal retard.

>>108657492
No it's that you can't do better. In fact, your best attempt even with all the resources in the world would be far, far worse.

>>108654057
>>108657677
Wealth is not a number on a computer screen, it is the power you are able to wield over others. That's what a dollar is. It's an economic voting slip. This fact is somewhat obscure for the average sub billionaire brokie, but when it comes to true wealth it is immediately obvious.

Think about how many people's entire careers are spent catering to richfags. There are engineers designing yachts and private planes, architects and builders for their mansions and winter homes (and summer homes and beach homes, etc.), private chefs and personal doctors, pedo sex traffickers and politicians. Countless people producing and shipping the goods they create, countless people serving them directly and indirectly.

Not to mention the literal, direct power over a company that owning shares gives you. Want to fire half your workforce because you read that we have AGI now? Why not? Fuck those wagies. Or just buy out an entire company then do whatever the fuck you want with it.

It's just not "fake wealth" in any sense if you can buy almost whatever you want whenever you want.

>>108651382
I read that all his children were conceived through IVF because he wants only boys

>>108658863
*Hits pipe*
His sons will be incels anyway so there's nothing gained

>>108655364
>SAAAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM !!
>DO NOT REDEEM THE SOLUTION TO WORLD HUNGER SAAAAAAR !!!

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>>108658863
>only boys
I guess he failed...

How. Many. Rockets. Have. You. Launched.

>>108657402
I agree with all of this except I accept I'm not capable of making billions of dollars at this point for those reasons.
I'm also risk-averse. I knew about bitcoin in 2009-2010, but chose to close out all my outstanding debt (student&car loans) rather than speculate. Who knows what would have happened? Maybe I'd have lost it all in the Mt Gox crash, or maybe I'd have made millions. But either way, I chose a safer path.

>>108658137
It's fake wealth cause the slips you mentioned are centrally controlled and only given for favours. There's nothing productive done to produce said wealth. That's why we're in the shit situation we are now economically internationally. If you don't accept that paper, they kill you. But like the snake eating itself, everytime you do violence, the value of the paper decreases until there is nothing left.

That's why we're about to hit the end of fiat in the next year or so. All the moves you see is out of desperation to keep economic power. If they had any real wealth, they wouldn't have to lift a gun.