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Discussion and Development of API Image and Video Models
>Image Models
GPT Image-2: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/2046589828918317155
Midjourney: https://www.midjourney.com/home
Nano Banana Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/products/nano-banana-pro/
Grok Imagine: https://grok.com/imagine
FLUX 2 Pro: https://bfl.ai/models/flux-2
>Video Models
Seedance 2.0: https://higgsfield.ai/seedance/2.0
Sora 2: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/sora-2
Veo 3.1: https://aistudio.google.com/models/veo-3
Runway Gen-4.5: https://runwayml.com
Kling 3.0: https://kling.ai/
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https://xcancel.com/sama/status/2046598595869331894#m
Let's hope he won't delete it 6 months later like sora 2 lol
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>>108653214
The only good thing regarding openai releasing images v2 is that google will release their next nano banana pro version which would be handy making open source training datasets that chinese models can catch up to images v2.
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>inb4 this gets nerfed by kike altman after 1 week
prompt: make a basedjak meme compilation of open source contributors
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>>108653274
https://x.com/OpenAI/status/2046589828918317155?s=20
they will have a livestream within 3 hours to announce it
the model is already usable for some users on chatgpt web
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>>108653190
lul
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>>108653295
he's literally me, I'm all for local but I won't pretend API isn't far away from it, one day local will be closer... I pray for days like this kek
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>>108653190
this shit is insane at text damn
https://xcancel.com/gavinpurcell/status/2046617366600335476#m
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>>108653295
lmao, how are you using it anon?
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>>108653472
u can attach multiple images of basedjak templates found on google search, even if they are low quality (low quality helps it make look more organic internet meme like)
then ask what you want to do with that
i.e. i attached this from google search and said "make a basedjak meme compilation on open source users"
but make sure your chatgpt account has been given access to images v2, some accounts are still on v1.5
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>>108653472
one sign you are on images v2 is it can make extremely dense walls of texts or image grids without "breaking" them like they look perfect or clean, 1.5 imagen can't do that
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>>108653526
based, thanks for the tricks anon
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>>108653190
I'm definitely glad they got rid of the piss filter
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gpt-image-2 is great at terminals
"show me a screenshot of a mac desktop, large terminal window visible of the earth map in ASCII"
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I have discovered fetishes I didn't know I had this week. This shit is the devil.
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>>108653317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWkGomJ3TLI
the live is in 16 mn, let's goo
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https://xcancel.com/EMostaque/status/2046658665835274719#m
impressive
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>>108654685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yTL0LBjj-g
that one has a chat in it
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>>108654685
kek
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>>108654685
https://youtu.be/sWkGomJ3TLI?t=1945
no fucking way lmaoo
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>>108654985
https://xcancel.com/OpenAI/status/2046670980358266923#m
So it's a 4k image
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>>108654985
Yeah basically they solved the resolution issue
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>>108655089
I'm sure they stoped using VAEs and now use the pixel space, you definitely need that to get this level of precision
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>>108653190
https://xcancel.com/arena/status/2046670703311884548#m
lmaoo what a MOG
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>>108653190
kek
I'm the dev of a 4chan browser for Emacs (picrelated) and was just about to ask you how you implemented posting/captcha on that
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>>108654906
These companies are all run by shysters who think they know everything. They're doing good if any of them thought to book catering
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https://xcancel.com/higgsfield/status/2046667303996330433#m
this is pretty cool lol
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it's interesting to see how it's working under the hood, basically it's thinking and correctly fixes itself with multiple edits, I guess they got rid of a VAE because when you edit a model too much with a VAE you start to get serious jpeg artifacts
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kek
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Infographics has been solved
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Tested GPT-Image in the API.
Can do celebs by attaching picture (edit mode).
No NSFW as expected though, maybe allows limited artistic stuff but didn't bother pushing too much.
Was able to give a woman cleavage by cloth swapping, but that's the extent of what I got.
Dogshit for style transfers, hallucinates what's style, what's content, omits or makes up details. 4 years into this and still not a single good model on this front.
Can make detailed infographics with text without slopping the text, for whatever that's worth.
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https://xcancel.com/rosaliekgill/status/2046704540687159409#m
that's really nice
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>>108654685
he has to be fucking all those azn boys kek
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Do you think it dethroned Nano Banana Pro?
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https://xcancel.com/aaronverber/status/2046722472192647626#m
this shit is great at realism
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>>108656437
>Do you think it dethroned Nano Banana Pro?
it destroyed it, this is next level
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I don't imagine anyone here wants to see a lot of what I'm generating but I need to say I'm blown away. Realistic, responsive, wayyyyy less likely to fuck up details or refuse on me if the prompt gets too lurid. Gets the details of materials and fabrics right even as I add multiple characters into the scene. Even pulled the logo and shirt design of a relatively obscure athletic gear company. $20 a month is too expensive to justify for something I'm only going to use for porn, but this is truly incredible.
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>>108656954
>Even pulled the logo and shirt design of a relatively obscure athletic gear company.
I think it's retrieving the image of the design on the internet and then implements it by doing some edit shit, but anyways yeah, this model is genuinely next level, the numbers don't lie >>108655139
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OpenAI cooked so hard, this is amazing
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>>108659944
thanks for pointing me to this thread anon.
its really good. just "gets" the style of what you want.
like if i ask for a live action movie type picture it does it really well. huge step up.
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>>108660144
I think they're just way too autistic to do this kind of presentation, it's not their fucking job after all, I don't know why Sam keeps forcing those math nerds to do this exercice, it's always cringe
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>>108660094
Only a matter of time. Pretty exciting stuff.
If you would tell me thats a promotional shot of a upcoming live action movie I wouldn't really notice that its AI.
I guess thats how the characters would look like kek.
Also funny that it can create "3d pics". Not sure if that is something new or not, but I hit the limit, so thats my last pic.
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>>108660155
Cause he's a fag after all, can't get turned on from business women who work on the team.>>108655120
>>108655752
Text may be accurate but there are uber slopped. NBP and even Klein makes more realistic images.
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>>108660263
And I wonder about this. Their VAE doesn't look particularly good, Klein is still more visually impressive. Their only innovation is tiny text on 4K images, but it feels out of place, almost like they're hacking it.
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This. is Insane. GPT-Image 2 just changed the game for indie devs. High-quality assets delivered in seconds
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>>108660263
>even Klein makes more realistic images.
that's a stretch, Klein is really really slopped, but yeah, I expected GPT Image 2 to at least match NBP's realism, but I think they still made the right choice to make it perfect on text and infographics, those are important too >>108655139
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https://xcancel.com/imgborba/status/2046696599389143169
Impressive
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>>108660263
GPT Image 2 can be really realistic, I guess it's just a matter of prompting it right
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>>108654811
>The guy in gray
I think the following is going through his mind: If Xi knows my face, then he will threaten my family back in China unless I leak secrets. Something along those lines. Working at ClosedAI as a researcher is not so safe for mainland Chinks.
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>>108660103
I did not expect this to just work
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>>108660077
jesus christ. It looks way to photorealistic is a good way. This looks like true photorealism reimagination of anime characters and not the anime2real bullshit loras for qwen and flux. I just very speechless.
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>>108661206
if seedance 2.0 wasn't a censored and nerfed hard with image2video human references, we could make fanmade live action remakes to anime shows without the shitty pozzed DEI casting of characters.
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>>108660372
>that's a stretch, Klein is really really slopped
Not with every type of image. Don't get me wrong, these are great advancements for text, but you're really overestimating what cloud can do. Flux.2 has made great strives at capturing skin pores etc... not possible without its VAE, and it's even better than NBP in that regard. Here's an example of what I mean.
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>>108661299
Soon anon.Only a matter of time until we can run this stuff on our shitboxes.
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>>108661374
the safety filter for the model is really aggressive but not as ultra cucked as nanobanana pro as of now. hopefully we get something as good as this sometime this year for local. flux klein and seedvr2 has too many limitations and tends to end strange defects to images.
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>>108661470
It's the only of the two images that looks real and not plasticky. It captures details in the woman's skin, something no other model has so far. You need to get your eyes checked, maybe send some time looking at real high quality photos on stock photo sites (Pexels, Flickr, etc...)
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https://xcancel.com/chetaslua/status/2046247547594031201
pretty kewl
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it's insane that you can simply make up a magazine page in one click when you think about it
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this shit is insane
https://x.com/devjuninho/status/2046932350248829086
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>>108653535
reversed/missing hands
it's all so tiresome
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>We got GPT Image 2 before gta 6
kek
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Gpt Image will be completely and utterly BTFO at Google I/O this year, since every major Nano Banana release occurs on a three month basis, which perfectly aligns with the dates since NB2 came out in February 20th and I/O is on the 19th and 20th of May
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>>108653190
I'm a local Chad but sometimes I listen to Udio outputs and wonder how they hell did they train this model. Cloud image models are shit but this audio model is just so fucking insane... God damn
https://www.udio.com/songs/c5tyeQ5x2jaxEExpp5ffgs
Like how the hell did they RLHF this thing? Every other song I hear from it is a hit.
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Gpt Image 2 can do nice 1girl :^)
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>GPT Image 2 can recreate dalle mini images
feels like we ended the cycle lool
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>>108660189
Can't wait to gen vr videos.
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Just a couple years ago we had 64*64 horror images posted here on 4chan.
I'm not sure where it pulls the general knowledge from.
Maybe thats why they bought openclaw.
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Absolutely shits on Banana pro. Not paying for it though.
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>>108666520
Yeah, asked for a tales like menu with re:zero characters.
translates the characters to snes reasonably well. the proportions are kinda off, but its still good stuff.
funny it included a snow level for emilia.
at first I thought its just taking something from the web and editing characters in.
but the whole alttp map is slightly off. so it seems to really have drawn all that from memory.
not sure what they did.
>I really hope local will be able to reach that level one day
until now it always catched up, though it takes time. china nerds are probably trying to replicate it right now.
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>>108661380
I tried pollo, sora, arena, and the chatgpt platform. I got only errors and apologies and nowhere near what's on that image.
Grok beats everything so far when it comes to nsfw content, but I don't want to risk posting an example. Is there a version of /adg/ in a nsfw board? I don't see one on /aco/.
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oh fug
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F I G H T!
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this shit is so good at making memes kek
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>Grok beats everything so far when it comes to nsfw content, but I don't want to risk posting an example.
you can post catboxes the mods won't mind, and btw next time you want to showcase something like that you can simply point to that subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Grok_Porn/
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nsfw explorer kek
It does have some sense of humor. Interesting because gpt was and always has been super dry.
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>>108668621
he's literally me kek
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Its such a weird model.
Sometimes I get great gens like this
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But then sometimes I get stuff that looks like midjourney. (pic related)
Maybe they heavily trained on that.
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>>108662880
Another example of image-2 doing iffy things, Not that the others aren't prone to weirdness, but what I'm getting related to arms is noticeable here.
NBP tends to make bodies rather "grounded" so it can get boring if you want saggy tits.
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Lobotomized piece of shit and I'm not paying for API for a slightly less lobotomized version
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>>108654867
Good uhhh... good joke?
With these models the prompt comprehension and text is always very impressive but it feels like aesthetic quality is always a distant consideration and anime especially always looks gigaslopped
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>A bustling street scene in Hong Kong with signs in Chinese and English
*Ohio impressed*
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Yeah, it is still censored. You can play around with words, like misspelling. The most I was been able to gen was something like this
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You pay on both cases, it's just that PAYG in API, you get more control because you are considered a dev, while in chatgpt, you are a user and a lot is handled automatically.
It's clear oai will never disable the anti nsfw backend.
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Granted, I'm a promptlet, but still
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>>108670616
Some pics I saved from yesterday. It was harder to get it to face left consistently when the input is facing to the right, so I was giving up. This one included "make the background make sense". IIRC but not sure, NB2 also had at least one pic with stairs to "explain" the background.
>why not flip the input image if you want it to go left
That would make characters with asymmetrical design inaccurate, in this case the ear ornament, though these often get it wrong anyway.
Also, for this one it was intentional to prompt for something less-identical-to-input so it doesn't "edit" the input, and to allow the model to apply more of its own influence.
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the fact it accepts a classroom setting without sperging is kind of strange
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Why wonder when you can proompt
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AI memes are literally soulless and you can tell very quickly (either AI made them or some literal NPC). But using it to explore concepts like this is way cooler than using text only. It gets your imagination going.
Worldbuilding is going to be fucking nuts with this
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>>108671874
Grok. I was wondering if anyone could recommend a better one for that kind of content, for image to video. They censored it but it's weird and only moderates certain things. Kind of reminds me of gun control laws.
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>>108671922
if you have a good enough GPU you can do something like this with LTX 2.3
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>>108671922
teasing ok? anything more is no?
or you are playing word games with the model like oai?
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yeah but it wouldn't look that good by default
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>>108671953
>teasing ok? anything more is no?
>or you are playing word games with the model like oai?
I think it's always worked like this:
It scans every frame of the video at the end. Either that or it scans every 48th frame or something, because nudity often gets through for a split second even now, if you emphasize how fast the motion is.
It looks for triggers. Like at one point it would moderate for gym uniforms on young women, but you could change her to a miniskirt that showed half her ass and it would allow it. Then one day I tried again and the shorts were working. And it allows this dress (picrel) after bikinis got banned in January.
You have to make sure it doesn't get carried away, because it's super horny and needs to be reminded in multiple places that her clothes don't disappear when she turns around, stuff like that. Then the moderator will see it the scan and delete it. Then there's also like a context for each tab you open, where it remembers the vids you liked / disliked + the latest vids and considers them when making the next one
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you should have seen it last year. It's unbelievable that it was ever that lax; they probably got sued like a hundred times. It would only moderate if it saw nipples or genitals over a second at a time, in clear light. I think it also moderated if they looked too young but I never tried that.
The fucking UK tried to sue / block with their Online Safety Act and X had to censor it.
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this looks beautiful damn
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yeah, the new gpt model is nice
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i had problems with a infograph for jap school outfits over the generations.
worked on the third time if you include both sexes. and avoid language like girl or boy.
example: "japanese school uniform for both genders" etc.
also difficult to describe but in the past they changed characters tit size sneakily.
but like >>108668664 it currently just accurately keeps the size.
tldr: less cucked than before but still cucked and totally cucked for cunny obviously.
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Nothing special, just few images of the character I wanted and:
low resolution photo taken with a phone camera for instagram by someone else at night of a real life korean k-pop idol human version of this character, posing for a professional photo inside a luxurious mansion. Her outfit and the hair should match, and she should look real and natural, just like a real person would. Keep her over exaggerated proportions the same. Next to her there are her female friends that are also based on similarly beautiful characters, but different from her, with both of them being next to her. One of them is squatting in front of her with her hands on her friend's body, while the other stands behind her with her arms draped over her shoulders.
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I just give it art of 2D characters that I like, like this one.
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Here's some Midjourney appreciation post
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anon... There are women that look exactly like that.
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You wish you looked like that.
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it is interesting how gpt2 falls apart. Kind of the same old problems as all the image models with bad size scaling of objects, incorrect depth and perspective and such.
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I feel like it's also the lack of control, at least for me, I feel like I'm walking on a tight trope between what I want and a "sorry it's not safety safe".
And not seeing thoughts and reasoning doesn't help.
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yeah, so many things I do I feel like are tame and get censored, then others skate right through. There is clearly a rating pass in the final output and for anything close to risque I feel like it is seed luck
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I feel like the base model knows nudity and even porn, as obviously they know it helps for sfw anatomy too, so this has the capacity to be the best nsfw ever, if only it wasn't completely locked like dalle used to be.
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zamn, image-2 fucks up side view legs too
If we can have some of NB's rationality with some of image-2's visual qualities (without the shitty texturing noticeable on non-white things), then we'll reach closer to godhood.
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I got one (1) free image generation on ChatGPT after waiting 24 hours and now they're trying to upsell me on a subscription.
This cannot stand.
In other news, how the hell is it so good at taking an attached image and redrawing the character in different styles, angles, poses, etc.
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Does the new model do silicon dolls?
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compute efficient gen.
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>>108686395
no, im just a gpt-image tourist throwing japanese game covers in to see what comes out kek
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