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>13 year olds are scoring 30 year lows in math
>high school seniors are scoring the lowest scores on reading since testing began in 1992
>white Americans are still out preforming yuros on pisa math and reading
Are we done with this chromebook bullshit? chromebooks, ipad, cellphones and other tech is obviously terrible for learning
https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/highlights/ltt/2023/
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>>108664619
>What exactly is done on these? Are they just convenient ways for school admins to outsource teaching to some corporate software?
in a district I worked in, there was a tech grant from somewhere to get all the kids chromebooks and the superintendent got a bonus equal to the exact amount of the grant that was left over after buying the cheapest possible chromebooks
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>>108664596
Maybe it has something to do with the massive influx of people coming into the United States without a solid grasp of the English language. Not to mention the no child left behind policy that just pushes children through the school system so that a high school diploma effectively means nothing. Chromebooks are the least of the education system's worries. If you want to fix things force kids to speak English and hold them back when they're not performing
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>>108664632
>and hold them back when they're not performing
that's racist. only the racist state of mississippi does that and nonracists assure me that mississippi is cooking the books and that's how they are absolutely dabbing on california when it comes to literacy
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>>108665214
>shitty parenting
This too, a lot more dumb slutty single moms.
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>>108665233
The decline only started about a decade ago, so whore moms are also just a minor contributing factor.
Parents in general have become hopelessly incompetent in the US. It's what happens when calling someone else out for raising a worthless brat is socially unacceptable, and the social media age has only made it a hundred times worse.
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>>108665177
Seems to me all demographics are displaying the same trend
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>>108665298
Very simple:
Mandatory Digital ID for services which have 100,0000 users or more using ZKP // ZK-SNARKs
Age limit: You must be 18 to use social media period.
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>>108665365
Mandatory didgital ID doesn't mean you have to show your real name on every post like in china. with ZKP it literally just validates your age and you pass. Children need to be kept off social media because enterprise will abuse them and target them for addiction, that's just ltieral reality and it happens every day and it needs to end.
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>spend 90% of curriculum teaching satanic gay race communism
>lock them in their homes and terrorize them after creating a new pathogen
>hurr why kids now bad at math
Well, yeah..
>>108665340
I think a German ZKP age verification system already exists actually, but all governments are drooling to implement the psychotic ultra surveillance alternative instead.
>>108665298
People should have more kids. If you think there are too many humans I would suggest freeing up a spot, with all due respect.
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>>108665403
A zero knowledge proof requires ony that you prove a claim, not reveal your entire identity document. For example, you would use a zkp ID specifically to prove the claim that you are over 18, but without specifying any of your actual birthdate information. That is why it is a zero knowledge proof, because you gain zero knowledge of me from me handing you the proof.
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>>108665408
Don't care. Still don't want age verification.
>>108665413
I'd rather stand with them than with you.
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>>108665403
>BRO CHILDREN SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO STRIPCLUBS
>I DON'T WANT TO SHOW ID MUUUHH FREEDOMS
Shalom.
>>108665415
And you are the judge of this competency? At the moment we should be happy with every child that isn't killed before birth.
>>108665417
It's as true on /g/ as it is on /pol/ or whatever other shithole it's uttered. These people also control most digital systems, it affects all of us. Fuck your little safety bubble.
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>>108665438
Child.
>>108665439
I don't hate the average Jew, just the ones who eat children and act as handymen for the transnational globalist empire of demonic bullshit. Their belief in their own superiority makes them the natural ally to tyrants and empires, it is a curse and I hope they can be rid of it. They don't even see me as fully human.
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>>108665463
Man I really feel like the Jewish child eating community is small enough you can reference these so called Baby Eating Jews by name rather than making them some vague entity, none of us really care if someone is Jewish, especially in America, because American Jewss are pretty different than the ones in Israel.
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>>108665476
Ask the king of the West, Jeffrey Epstein "who do you serve and who was the jerky made of."
Or ask the New York Jews why they dug under the city.
You haven't the slightest idea what is going on if you think this is basic tribal hatred. These people sacrifice Jews and non-Jews like it is nothing.
People are learning, let's see what happens.
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>>108665284
i'm nooticing
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>>108665233
>suicidal empathy for 3rd world niggers
>feminism
more evidence why the 19th amendment should be repealed
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>>108665148
teachers would use papers over chromebooks. it's from the district, not individual teachers
>>108665177
this is crazy, better not look up the early life of the guy who changed the immigration law in 1965
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>>108665463
I accept your concession.
>>108666653
See >>108665284. White kids have smartphones too.
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>>108665233
I keep seeing IG vids of some cunt parents who have some violently retarded spergs and they demand their kids not be placed in small groups because
>behavior alone doesn't dictate placement or an iep
they should euthanize the violently retarded like they do with dogs, holy shit. like the violently retarded are never going to be able to live on their own and are just going to assault people
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>>108665383
you could do the thing where 18/21+ items have keys on them and those keys can be used to verify age, ie if you buy a beer it comes with a key which you can use as a token to verify you are 21+
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>>108665413
go watch old ted turner captain planet episodes. there are 2 episodes where they outright say
>white people having kids bad, overpopulation
>thirdies having kids fine
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>>108665476
>none of us really care if someone is Jewish, especially in America, because American Jewss are pretty different than the ones in Israel.
NTA, but they literally have duel citizenship. all israeli and American jews came from yurop and have citizenship in israel and the US or one yuropean country. like even putin says he won't support any action against israel because there are too many israelis with russia citizenship
>>108665591
how would you make it better?
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>>108665593
I think it's lower, but still dabbing on yurop and not as much lower as other demos. Blacks, hispanics and multi/other saw a greater decline than whites and asians and also we don't know what percent of the whites are white vs just listed as white
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>>108666158
they are if you scroll down, but the drop for non-hispanic whites was like half that of blacks and hispanics and they count like egyptions and eyetalians as white so who knows what the actual number is. it's based on self deported demographic info
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>>108666253
and the 16th and 23rd
>>108666675
the asians didn't decline much and the white decline was like half of the black and hispanic decline. we should ban smartphones and social media for kids.
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>>108664596
>Lock the world down for years
>cripple 2+ years of education globally
>Reaping the fruits of this now
>surprised pikachu face
We literally told you this would happen. Turns out when you miss 2 years of education and are just force skipped through to the next grades, you actually don't magically catch up to the curriculum.
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>>108665385
I teach in a non American western country and our curriculum contains perhaps about 1 week (5 days) total (across all subjects) that touch on traditional “woke” topics. I have brown kids in class that score the highest and whites that score low. My impression is that it has to do with language. What do the parents talk about with the kids? What books do they read? Museums they visit? What movies and series they watch? Does it have complex language or is it ooga booga tiktok or hollywood? Some anon saying it has to do with short form content might be right. At least before the kids might read comics and see and learn new language. Now they just see thirsttraps on instagram with links to their OF. Sites like this, for instance, also don’t promote deep thoughts or deep dives into a subject. The attention that is needed for that is faltering. More and more the “lower classes” just give their kids phones to scroll through or don’t interact with their kids because they are scrolling themselves. Think that is a bigger problem than “woke” stuff or race.
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>>108666740
>they used to just expel kids before NCLB
In some places where there was funding they'd get sent to special schools where they got put into smaller groups with specialized teachers, in my area there was one that was running out of an old ran down school back in the mid 2000s right before NCLB was instated. It eventually closed down a few years after, they tore down the old school and sold the plot for real state development.
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Do you think something like Qwen could be a tutor? Even if you don't have the hardware to run something like that locally, there are free alternatives for homework help. Kids don't really have excuses for getting bad grades anymore, unless they were born with a severe impairment, but shitty parenting will ensure it happens anyway. When I was in 6th grade, for middle school, ages ago, I was already getting 75%+ scores on standardized tests being given to high schoolers, tests that were required to graduate.
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>>108664596
Chromebook isnt the issue
The issue is DEI and trannyism. The kids are being castrared physically in school and mentally. Its by design. The marxist teachers unions are pushing for kids to be castrated as it makes them easier to manipulate them into communism
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>>108664596
This is your US-only problem, and the problem is not the technology. It's the 13% that cannot pass the most basic exams, but that's literally slavery and oppression so your government had to dumb everyone down to appease the rabid masses.
The only other countries that are developing such a problem are the ones that decided they need their own 13% like France. It's that simple.
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>>108665284
This. Whites are a minority now (and will be forever thanks to the jews running the country). America will never recover.
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>>108664596
>Are we done with this chromebook bullshit?
no as long as there is profit in it. if i ever had children i would probably try my best to either get them into a private school or homeschool them. it really is a sad state of affairs.
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>>108664596
The method of teaching is so irrelevant that Swedes and Japs in America have statistically identical scores to their overseas counterparts, and poor white kids score better than rich black kids
It's in the blood, always will be.
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>>108668235
nonwhite kids don't preform better. states like California and New Jersey are trying to get rid of leveling/tracking/gifted programs/honors classes because they basically always end up being racially segregated
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>>108668274
modern tests and shit are way easier, see the SATs needing to have conversion scores for older years because the current tests were made easier. kids are still scoring lower on the current SATs and kids 20 years ago scored on the nonadjusted SATs
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>>108668292
>This is your US-only problem
it's not. PISA scores have dropped less in the US than they have in yurop over the last decade
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>half my third-year students can't read!
>whatever, i'll mark them as passed, let their fourth-year teacher deal with it
one year later:
>half my fourth-year students can't read!
>whatever, i'll mark them as passed, let their fifth-year teacher deal with it
one year later:
>half my fifth-year students can't read!
>etc
oh but it's the technology that's broken, not the school system
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>>108673941
enhance
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>>108671629
/pol/ is one of the biggest contributing factors via NCLB, the obongo version of NCLB, blue states trying to do that retarded 3 cues reading system because Bush told them not to, not being allowed to give blacks suspensions or detentions because it's racist, getting rid of honors classes because it's racist, ect
a lot of the issues with education right now are either due to statues or case law from lawsuits
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>>108672084
He said /pol/, not political discussion. The two are not the same, and the fact that that nuance is lost on you means that you're most likely a victim of poor education and almost certainly /pol/trash yourself.
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>>108668292
euros are so steeped in negative news about the usa they don't know what's going on at home and just assume they're doing better by comparison.
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>>108674031
the thing that's weird to me is that if you go on boards with flags, 99% of the
>Americans are dumb
>America hate
posts are from like portugal, italy and the warsaw pact/yugoslavia countries.
like the ones that never accomplished anything and that no one would call an educational or economic powerhouse. Like the shittier yuropean countries are also the ones who do the whole
>yuropean culture
>yuropean achevements
and then try to take credit for bong, frog and nazi stuff.
oh and it's a bunch of ausfalians, leafs, brazilians and new zealnders too for some reason. I think brazil and latin America in general haven't invented mirrors based on how many times I've seen brazilians and other latinexes call Americans some variant of mutt or nonwhite
>>108674015
I think it's just around the time they started measuring the stuff so it's basically like saying
>it's close to the lowest we have on record
It wasn't 1996 specifically
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>>108674589
white Americans score higher than white yuros in math. I think only fins score higher than white Americans. it's why Americans go to the moon and yuros can't put a man in space
plus you are probably like polish or latvian or something
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>>108664596
30 year low is too high! Parent's aren't giving their kids enough electrolytes and it shows!
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>>108674031
>Europe is a sociopolitical monolith just like the US
>I read negative news about how Europe is overran by rapefugees so that must apply to every country on the continent
>>108674153
What gets me the most is just how much Americans love to make misinformed takes about Europe and talk about European realities like they know them better than Europeans do, but then will get all butthurt and defensive the moment Europeans try and give them the same treatment.
Suddenly the US stops being a sociopolitical monolith, each state has it's own laws, and also all the negative news you read are about the metropolitan shitholes that are all blue and everything around them in the state is red as fuck so shut the fuck up.
Nah nah, you'll keep getting a taste of your own medicine until you learn how to be civil in online discourse for once.
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>>108664596
Nah, Chromebooks are the new textbooks and most schools use the Google Education Suite for creating lessons, turning in assignments even marking grades. To rip it out now would be like derailing a train.
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>>108674900
yurop is one monolithic gay country run by the EU where no one has rights and open borders and homosexuality are mandatory
also anything east of berlin is gay as fuck
>>108674930
that's because google is pushing that shit to increase marketshare. most teachers would rather just use normal text books and worksheets
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>>108664619
>What exactly is done on these? Are they just convenient ways for school admins to outsource teaching to some corporate software?
I graduated last year from a school that "taught" exclusively on chromebooks. Teachers were just there to supervise and make sure students were working. That's basically what it was. Outsourcing education to corporate software. I can't say I learned anything there, but it was an option to complete the bare minimum requirements to receive a diploma so I'm employable. I have no respect for the educational system.
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>>108665233
Yup. Working hard as a kid is up to how you're educated. Unfortunaly now we have kids who have been raised by parents who were not educated. The kind of shitty parents thinking it's cause of teachers they did bad at school while they never tried hard. So you've got lazy retards educating their kids to be lazy retards.
At least back then if you didn't work enough and did shit because you were lazy,the grandpa would have told you to do better because you can do it.
Intelligence without hardworking leads nowhere except fucked up adults full of regrets.
Study at school kids ,don't necessary think it's useless.
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>>108664596
oh? you got chromebooks from that? chromebooks? that have been around for 15 years now? not AI LLMs? it's the chromebooks?
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>>108675108
>Teachers were just there to supervise and make sure students were working. That's basically what it was. Outsourcing education to corporate software.
That sucks man. I didn't love school but I have good memories of some teachers and how their efforts made it fun and helped me understand things I didn't get or care about. Meanwhile, literally every online course I ever did (including my entire masters) was just me cheesing the course and doing as little as possible. As a result I don't remember shit and the whole experience feels like ticking a checkbox rather than learning. People really fucked zoomers and younger gens over.