>Wayland-only

Stopped reading right there.
Into the trash it goes.

>>108670207
buy an ad snaptoddler

is this the sane option for windows users who are fine with the OS but want to punish MS for the shenanigans this year?

>>108670253
No, it's a microsoft funded linux sabotage project.

>>108670227
snaps are fine

>>108670207
Based.

>>108670272
>>108670275
Here come the corpo bots.

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> I REQUIRE YOUR ID, SSN, MOTHERS MAIDEN NAME, ADDRESS, AND COCK AND BALLS PICTURE BEFORE YOU LOG IN GOY

>>108670253
Use Fedora. Don't forget the codecs.

>>108670253
Ubuntu is the best for people migrating because it has a whole corporation behind it, so its pretty stable.

I'd say Ubuntu and Mint are the better distros for newcomers and people that don't want to fiddle and fight their OS and a daily basis. Snaps are not that bad, but if you don't like them its pretty easy to remove them and everytthing Canonical with them

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Upgrade went well for me

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>>108671051
same

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>>108670207
Thanks, but I'm sticking with Arch.

>>108670316
literally the shittiest option:
nothing special
neither really stable, nor rolling (unless rawhide)
owners treat it like an alpha channel and are willing to experiment on guinea pig users
no out-of-the-box experience (requires a third party repo to actually "get codecs" built into base multimedia packages like ffmpeg's libavcodec.so)

>>108670207
just seems like a worse version of arch

>>108672148
This
Out of all possible options WHY would you pick Fedora

>>108670207
>no GUI to manage PPAs, repos or drivers
based, you should be doing everything in a terminal

>>108670207
I'm using it right now and really liking it. Everything seems to work great.
Snaps aren't as bad as I remember, really similar to Flatpaks. I don't like that they removed "Software & Updates" but you can still install it anyway if you really want it.
I will wait few weeks for them to iron out any bugs that could remain and I might install it on my main machine. I don't know if gaming would be the same or better than Bazzite for I'll test it out.
All in all I like having a system that's stable, certified and works with everything. My distrohopping might be finally cured.

>>108670253
It really is. I've been trying and testing countless distros for the past handful of months, even Ubuntu, and this release seems the best integrated distro I've used. And since every piece of software is made to at least support Ubuntu (or has a .deb) then I feel like I have access to every single program there is from official sources.
I know and get why many Linux users dislike Ubuntu, but right now, it seems like the best introduction to the Linux world for newcomers.
>Mint
Yes, I love Mint with a passion, but right now it is WAY behind Ubuntu 26.04 in terms of cohesion.

>>108670316
Fedora is great... as a base, but as a stand alone distro it lacks too many sane options out of the box. You can fix, tweak and customize it, yes, but Ubuntu has everything you'd get after fixing Fedora, out of the box.
That said, Fedora-based distros like the Ublue images, Nobara or Ultramarine are excellent options.
But I like having a big enterprise that can be held accountable for to have a reliable and stable system.

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Remember when an Ubuntu LTS release was big news? How the mighty have fallen...

i'm still waiting on the xubuntu iso.

>>108672464
they should've just put it behind a "developer options" or something like that. Having a GUI driver manager is actually one of the strongest points of Ubuntu. Canonical is either retarded or evil, maybe both.

>>108670207
>Software & Updates removed – no GUI to manage PPAs, repos or drivers
Why? This was convenient when I would throw one up an instance to test something that needed proprietary drivers.

>>108672148
NTA, I haven't had any stability problems with it. Other than adding in the RPM Fusion sources it's pretty good to go.

>>108673047
an experienced user can make any distro (or no distro at all) work. making things work on top of a kernel that never breaks ABI is not an achievement.
the question was about windows migrants.

>>108670303
None of this is in Ubuntu btw.

>>108672986
Bazzite?

>>108673746
Yes, Bazzite is part of the Universal Blue images (Bluefin, Aurora, Bazzite). They're my favorite Fedora-based distros although Distrobox/Homebrew still need much more development and documentation for them to work as intended.

>>108670303
Huh? I installed 26.04 offline and it's working fine with apt cached debs

>>108670253
I started on Ubuntu in 2018 and never left.
For me, I much prefer the way gnome is laid out compared to KDE.
I also like the update cycle of Ubuntu and the fact that they did have a bigger vision for ecosystem (Ubuntu touch for example).

>>108674224
I used ubuntu shortly then went to kubuntu since I did not like gnome. I was on that for quite a few years, probably a decade. I've since moved to KDE fedora on a friends suggestion and I've liked it since it's been super stable compared to kubuntu.

>>108673035
I never want to use a PPA. They are a Pain Point Always.

>>108670222
fpbp

>>108674224
I started using Ubuntu with 12.04, got burned by systemd with 18.04 (too slow, not the same hardware) which made me switch to Devuan and have been using that ever since.

I updated kubuntu. My shit is all fucked up now (as expected) but I will get it in order knowing I can stay on this release for the next few years. I'll hopefully retire this laptop before I need to reinstall my OS again. Forced migration to Wayland had me on 25.10 and even that was an unwanted upgrade.

>>108672938
>and this release seems the best integrated distro I've used.
What makes you say that? Are you using plain Ubuntu or one of the other flavors (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.)

>CachyOS is 10% faster in almost all benchmarks, more up-to-date and rolling
Why the dick would anyone use Ubuntu at this point in time.

>>108675612
For one, its initrd generator isn't braindead garbage.

>>108675520
>I updated kubuntu. My shit is all fucked up now (as expected)
Imo, it's always better to do a clean install with point-release distros.

>but I will get it in order knowing I can stay on this release for the next few years.
Best part of Ubuntu is knowing you can coast on a release for *10* years if you really want.

>>108675612
>CachyOS is 10% faster in almost all benchmarks
Snake oil. You might see a *slight* performance increase in *some* workloads. You can get most of the purported benefits on practically any other distro, anyway--this LTS release has x86-64-v3 packages available. Install the Liquorix/Xanmod kernel and you've basically got the same shit as CachyOS.

>more up-to-date and rolling
Some people like having a stable distro where every update isn't a game of russian roulette. Containers (flatpak, distrobox) bridge the gap here anyway.

>>108675612
>>CachyOS
>rolling release garbage
*pukes*

>>108675783
Technically ubuntu is rolling release like fedora. Arch, Cachy, Debian Sid and the like are just up to date, there is no "release"

>>108675876
Ubuntu doesn't roll. It's a snapshot of Debian with Canonical mods and a HWE kernel.
Fedora is closer to rolling, depending on the packages in question (e.g. kernel, KDE).
Arch rolls.
CachyOS I presume is a delayed roll on Arch.
Debian Sid looks like it rolls but really it's just the development branch which behaves differently depending at what point in the release cycle it is and what specific packages are being looked at.

>>108670227
apt install foo
snap install foo

oh my gawd im such a toddler for typing one additional letter

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>>108670207
I love how the people coming here to shit on Ubuntu are just a bunch of 16 yo who thought they became 1337 enough to migrate to niche distros only to figure out Ubuntu was much better maintained, stable and polished.

26.04 is very good LTS

>>108675989
I used Ubuntu since about 2007. When rumors started about dropping apt to build their own app store like package manager, I switched to Debian.

I'm tired of the enshitification merry go round. Stuff starts out great, then through extreme boomer less for more profit motive just becomes unusable like youtubes 6 unskippable ads per 10 ten minute video. I'm old and tired, and drop services and products when this shift starts now instead of waiting it out.

>>108670207
i might consider kubuntu... im on arch now but everytime i need a new teamviewer i have to fetch it from aur and compile some insanely huge qt5 webengine shit for about an hour.

i do play some games does steam still work on ubuntu?
i havent run ubuntu gnome since 2018 thats when i got so damaged by the wayland gnome transition nightmare i ended up with ptsd and quit all linux for several years

>>108672986
I just do minimal Fedora install, and then run my script which strips it even further, installs my shit, sets up my env - literally 15 minutes after fresh install i have a system just how i want it to be. And I trust Redhat glowies more than random troons with their meme distros. They at least have SOME incentive not to break shit.

>>108675920
>CachyOS I presume is a delayed roll on Arch
Cachy is frequently ahead of Arch. They shipped kernel 7.0.1 yesterday for example, whilst Arch is still on 6.19.13. Arch doesn't even have 7.x in testing yet.

>>108676106
>i do play some games does steam still work on ubuntu?
yeah. for gayman you'll probably want to use the liquorix/xanmod/hwe kernel + the steam flatpak for a more up to date version of mesa (if you're on intel/amd). i dont recommend using the mesa ppa (or any ppas for that matter), that shit has broken my system literally every time ive used it

>>108670253
The way I see it, check what the biggest non-macbook, non-chromebook laptop company is, which is Lenovo, and check what linux distributions they sell on their laptops (Ubuntu LTS, Fedora Workstation, and RHEL), and then choose any of those three and you can expect a secure and professional distribution, grass will always be greener on the other side in Linux, when you use Ubuntu LTS you'll feel like you are missing out on new packages, when you use Fedora Workstation you'll feel you have a smaller app repository and maybe not quite as reliable/stable experience, and if you go off the deep end with a DIY Arch/Nix setup you'll feel like you messed up setting it up and want to restart. So accept that you'll never be fully happy, and embrace the imperfection of whatever option you pick.

>>108676651
Good advice.
>when you use Ubuntu LTS you'll feel like you are missing out on new packages
This isn't as much of a problem if you get used to using containers, flatpaks/distrobox can do a lot of heavy lifting these days. But yeah, on occasion you just want a newer, native package and it can be a pain in the ass.

>>108670207
>Ubuntu Dock – no longer uses transparency
What is the point then

>>108673013
the last good LTS was 18.04 with unity included

>>108676651
Whatever new packages I need I manage them myself or get it out of a PPA. Can be a bit of a pain in the dick but I pick and choose what I allow to break.

>>108676130
>They at least have SOME incentive not to break shit.
fedora releases are literally a pre-alpha channel
fedora latest-1 is alpha
CentOS Stream is beta
and RHEL is stable

>>108676651
Sanest /g/ post ever.