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I remember I was always told that the wiki is the greatest thing out there, in the beginning i wasn't able to install the full OS by reading it, as it left many things unexplained and many holes in the process. I completed it by watching a good yt video for it. Been over a decade now, and I know much more, but recently I installed artix that doesn't use systemd for time, so i installed openntpd, but that tool that is meant to set time, cannot do the only purpose its built for.. Sure, I installed chrony, let's check the wiki for instructions. I am expecting a simple command to sync my time and that's it. But no, they are talking about adding custom servers and config nobody fucking cares about.. all it took was a rare man page pull (man pages are also useless) to give me -s switch that does it. Why is documentation completely fucking useless on GNU+Linux?
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>>108670367
Some guy (prob a shitpost) had an xauth error when trying to log into xfce through ly on his first install, so I installed xfce4, and went to log in, and there's two options: xfce session, and xfce session(wayland). The wayland session does not work, so I thought I would investigate. Neither the Archwiki nor XFCE's documentation had anything regarding a wayland session.
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>>108670367
>This article describes how to set up and run chrony, an alternative NTP client and server that is roaming friendly and designed specifically for systems that are not online all the time.
My dude i don't want to shit on you but if they say it's an NTP client and server then you are expecting to fuck with custom servers and configs.
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>>108671686
Not OP, but he's right: Arch Wiki is a mess because they diarrhea of the info dump. ANYTHING you're trying to look up quick and relevant info is buried under shit that doesn't matter unless you hit it (cornercases) and is not worth reading.
It SORELY needs collapsible information boxes that are "if you have X problem [expand dong]" able, but they'll never do it.
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>>108672372
Also you should learn hindi soon since india will be a superpower in 2030
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>>108670367
The documentation on linux sucks except the exact part that you need.
The wikis exist because the man pages are even worse.
Literally nothing is worse than the man pages of most common utilities. Talking about coding and scripting abstractions for 800 pages but then detailing important command line flags for half a page and it misses most of them.
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>>108670367
I lost the screenshot now, but some 15 years ago there was a thread on the ArchLinux forums where the main Arch developer said that ArchLinux has always been designed in such a way to make maintaining it easy. One way they do this is by enabling all options and switches in all their packages. That way they ensure maximum chances for interoperability.
ArchLinux is maintainer-centric, not user-centric. That's why Arch has more package managers than users.
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>>108670367
>all it took was a rare man page pull
so in stead of reading the operation manual you read the install config guide and then complain that it doesn't give you operating instructions.
are you retarded or something
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Bro this isn't the 1990s, wikis are fucking gay. Nobody wants to be some retarded starry eyed contributor exploited for labor under some fantasy of making a difference in teh community. Especially for shit that's constantly changing.
The wiki grift is fucking over. The novelty has expired. The wiki foundation's incessant e-begging despite being flush with cash put an end to that shit. Nobody wants to be the thankless sucker toiling away for good goy points.