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>Bazzite for gamers
>CachyOS for power users
>Linux Mint for office workers
Top 3 Linux distros for Windows users just dropped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNjFysodRo
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>>108677162
This guy is such snake oil of a person and a youtuber.
Dude made a Windows 10 video shitting on security and people that use it, just to make a fucking apology video after getting shit talked.
People that cannot stand their ground should not be listened to, fucking pathetic pussy.
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>>108677164
It's for Windows user you dumdum
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>>108677181
>dude assumes a thing
>checks out he was wrong
>dude corrects the record
Nothing wrong with that.
>>108677194
go back to talking with chatGPT weirdo.
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>>108677164
enjoy your backdoor retarded nigger
https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/2795
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>>108677162
Can anyone explain this segmentation to me? Is it a holdover from 10-15 years ago that there was a genuine distinction between distro's capabilities?
>office workers
I can install libre office and thunderbird just as well on Cachy as I could on mint. Haven't tried bazzite as it's offered nothing new besides "newness" and mindshare. To top it off, do they not understand that there are things like erp software that is windows only?
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>>108677283
Shouldn't you be in the bed right now. You need to go back to factory tomorrow Ping Pong.
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>>108677424
Man, fuck Ubuntu.
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>>108677164
Ventoy might contain backdoors or other malicious code:
The author(s?) long refused to react on questions about the source code for the precompiled code inside their git repository.
They long refused to react on questions about the security risks.
When an answer was finally given, it boiled down to a simple "There is no reason to assume that we would have placed malware inside."
Again after a really long time the authors finally mentioned what other source code they used to generate some−but not all−of the pre-compiled code. They did not mention the build methods and refused to prove that this really was the used source code.
The real identities of the authors is unknown.
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>>108677457
My negro in christ, the Cachy installer asks you if you want to install cups and explains what it is, same with libre office.
I'll admit that mint doesn't install wine/proton by default but I think steam does it by now.
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>>108677540
>Atomic distro for gaming is retarded and for people that don't know how to use computers
The same people who updoot their OS and DNA through the killshot™ mRNA vaccines, the same retards who subscribe their life away like the good goyslop cattle they are? I'm surprised some reverse engineers still stick around and provide actual solutions to the needles obstacles corpokikes create all in the name of New Normal progress
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>Arch for geymen
>macOS for getting shit done
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>>108677162
Chris is fucking retarded. Just look at his stream, he makes videos and articles by using AI inside of visual studio code to write it for him and vibe codes all his "programs" and the rest is stolen by random viewers that find shit for him and do it for him. Guy is literally on the lower end of the IQ pole, he's moreso inspiring to me by the fact that someone as simple as him can end up in a happy relationship, have offsprings, have a succesful career and have a succesful youtube channel. You can be a retard and achieve all those things. You just have to try and not be lazy or perfectionist.
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>>108677162
>Bazzite
Understandable, I don't like it but it works for most.
>CachyOS for power users
I'd argue it extends to the former and the latter. Cachy has the best integration and implementation of KDE Plasma that I've used. Kubuntu, Fedora KDE, etc, have a range of issues that lead to krashes and a poor experience overall.
>Linux Mint
Too outdated for me but I get it.
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>>108677715
>we are too smart for our own good
But are you really? You both sound to me like total low iq loooosers.
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>>108677162
>https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/2795
>CachyOS for gamers
>Gentoo for POWER users
>Fedora for office workers
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>Linux Mint for office workers
No, fuck off. I'll even take Fedora over that shit.
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>>108677162
>Bazzite
>Cachy
>Mint
>YOU WILL USE SYSTEMD. YOU WILL USE WAYLAND. YOU WILL USE GNOME AND YOU WILL LIKE IT FAGGOTCHUDS YOU USE WHAT WE TELL YOU TO USE
LOL LMAO LMFAO ROFLMAO ROFLMFAO
Naw I think I'll stick to real Linux (aka Void)
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>Fedora for gamers
>Arch for power users
>Debian for office workers
That's it. Don't use any meme derivatives, downstream forks, or independent slop that can and will be abandoned at any time. If you can't set any of those up to your own needs then Linux isn't for you and you should stick to a retard-friendly device like a smartphone.
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>>108677164
Sorry no can do
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>Proton 11 brings native wayland proton support for gayming, built in HDR, VRR smoothness
>NTSYNC to eliminate microstutter and stutter performance in general since its as native as it can get to how windows work without relying on wineserver
>DXVK/VKD3D with vulkan is usually much better than windows shitty directX on AMD cards because open source mesa is insane
>KDE has never been better in terms of VRR and features/stability feature parity with windows 11
>Wayland is actually stable now, and VRR just werks and HDR just werks along with screensharing and stuff
>Games are smoother than windows with higher FPS
>Davinci Resolve is better than adobe premiere
>GIMP with photoshop patch is good enough
So....What does windows provide now that linoox has basically just outclassed it?
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>>108678904
Proton 11 also has reduced latency, because inherently xwayland added another layer.
Now since its running on proton with wayland natively and no layer, Its 8-10ms latency reduced. As well as just being less buggy and less chance to have stuttering/compositing problems.
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>>108678877
What the FUCK, when did this come to light? Everyone was saying to use this program, hell I loaded up all my ISO's onto a Ventoy flash drive and used it to install Linux and Windows since last year. Wtf do I do now?
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>>108679190
But it's Windows, so it's inherently inferior to Linux. Why? Because Linux failed to compete with Windows and now that they're filling ectra gaps and Windows gets worse it just is so SWITCH TO LINUX NOWNOWNOW WHY ARE YOU NOT SWITCHING DESPITE THE DAILY SHILL THREADS
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>>108677249
So what does this mean? If I load up my ISO's onto a Ventoy flashdrive, and install an OS from that flash drive, that OS will be compromised and injected with a permanent backdoor and that I need to reformat and scan my filesystem afterwards?
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>>108679207
Cool, we already know. Now:
-offer an alternative that doesn't waste a 64GB stick for a 4GB ISO that doesn't have blobs
-deblobbify Ventoy if you're paranoid about it. You're given a full list of the blobs, now do pull merges or fork it to deblobbify it.
Anything else is unproductive and a waste of time.
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If Chris truly hates Windows that much he wouldn't be living off of making a utility to fix it to get people to move to Linux. But he knows that Windows hate and Linux worship sells so he keeps biting the hand that feeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhBRJStz7w
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>>108677162
>Alma, Debian, Devuan
For offices
>Arch, Hyperbola, Guix, NixOS
For hobbyists
> Mint, Q4OS, OpenMandriva - Mx, Exe, Vendefoul Wolf
For regular users
> Alpine, Debian, Devuan, Freebsd, Gentoo, Guix, NixOS, OpenBSD, Slackware
For power users
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>>108679470
idk I was under the impression that if you use Linux it is now your life's goal to ensure Windows will only get worse so there won't be an alternative. Browsing this board alone is enough to reach this conclusion, no?
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>>108677162
>Windows for gamers
>Windows for power users
>Windows for office workers
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>>108677249
Based on https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/3224 I'm not overly worried. Yes it's concerning, but it's probably fine and may even be fixed in the future.
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>>108679833
>meaning DirectX is the issue and it can be fixed
no, you fucking idiot, it's everything else that windows is running that's suffocating directx
if anything linux is running a slower fucking version because it has to translate directx calls to vulkan
you don't know shit, shut the fuck up you fucking clueless idiot
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Linux mint might seem like a user friendly option. I do remember starting on it myself but what i noticed was that while it had a user interface and software that was supposed to make it easy to use it simply wasn't since you would run into issues that couldn't be easily fixed.
Linux mint (unless you go for the debian edition) also happen to be a fork of a fork which is just stupid. Debian is probably a sinking ship now though.
I honestly Found Arch Linux to be easier to use and had less problems than linux mint. At least Arch Linux has a decent wiki still where a lot of things are well documented.
As for standard Ubuntu: nobody should touch anything from them ever after the numerous malware incidents on their snap store (they seem to make stupid decisions in general and deserve to fail).
I remember installing linux mint on a computer i build for my grandmother. It seemed to work fine but then once i had already handed over the computer it just broke down for reasons that are unclear to me (she ended up going back to windows).
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>>108679945
You can drop DXVK under Windows in games and get both an FPS and frametime boost. Ergo, Vulkan is the real solution, not Linux.
My apologies you've filled your lack of personality with Linux and can't accept truth while resorting to childish insults as a last resort to protect your brittle ego.
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>>108679794
How is it worse?
>immutable
That doesn't affect the only thing Bazzite is supposed to do: Gaming. If being immutable doesn't work for you then Bazzite isn't the distro you should be using.
>cachyos
cachy is great, yes, but that should be recommended only to advanced users. Bazzite is literally braindead easy to use which is the whole point.
For everything else there's Ubuntu or Mint, depending on which you like more.
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>>108677162
Good video desu.
In my opinion you can even simplify it even more.
>Gaming and beginners
Bazzite. Why? Because the Bazzite (or any other Universal Blue distro) are truly the only "install and use" linux distros which make them perfect for beginners. And for gamers it's ready to use ootb without needing to anything else.
>Everything else
Ubuntu. Yes, there's Mint; and yes, there's people who hate Canonical. But objectively, Ubuntu is the best "regular use" distro by a long shot, even after all of Canonical's bs.
>Bonus point: CachyOS.
ONLY if the user is a poweruser who wants to really fiddle with the latest software/packages. Objectively, any performance gain isn't significative in real usage nor in productivity. CachyOS won't give you any real advantage over Bazzite in games or Ubuntu in anything else. It's just a hobby distro, which is fine, but not needed in a "recommended list".
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>>108680231
No I don't.
btw your impotent seethe won't change the fact that Windows is still over 90% of the market and no one wants to touch Linux. You'll die bitter and alone with the last thing on your screen being your constant seethe at Windows on /g/ while I'll be living a life devoid of pointless seething over shit that means nothing, like what OS people use. Can't even feel bad about (You), it's the life you chose.
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>>108680280
Congrats, you're one of the few smart people who use Bazzite for what it's for, THE literaly gaming distro, and not go full retard "omg why this hyperspecialized OS doesn't do EVEYTHING I want it to do like those other distros over there!!!!!"
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>No I don't.
i guess that's true in your shame based society shithole, i'm expecting too much from you
>btw your impotent seethe won't change the fact that Windows is still over 90% of the market and no one wants to touch Linux.
oh, plenty of people are touching linux, more than ever and it's only accelerating
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>>108680002
Let's me fix that for you
>Normalcattle NPCs
Bazzite
Pop
Fendora
Ubuntu
Cachy
>Trannies and faggots
Arch
>Fat fuck hacks who larp as intelligent technophiles
Gentroon, LFS
>Straight white men
Void, Slackware
>Retarded ape-like creatures
Devuan, Artix
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>Bazzite sucks, just use ultramarine
They're fundamentally the same, Fedora + codecs/drivers. And in the upcoming releases they'll even share the same OGC kernel. Ultramarine is fine in concept but honestly is just managed by 7 people (degenerates also) so you'd be better using plain Fedora and invest 20 minutes adding everything Ultramarine does.
>Cachyos is for normies
Arch will never be "for normies" no matter how simplified it gets. You're misleading what a "normie" is. A normie is literally your mom, grandpa, or your lukewarm IQ next door neightboor. Which only want something to boot and work without any friction. CachyOS may work at fist, but rolling updates and maintenance are bound to fuck up something eventually.
>Linux mint sucks and has fallen behind
I agree with you with the "fallen behind" part. But it doesn't suck. It's like a well maintained old reliable car compared to a brand new electric. Both have pros and cons, but yeah the newer distros have more bells and whistles, while Mint will just turn on, work, and do absolutely nothing else.
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>Bazzite for casual gamers
>CachyOS for hardcore gamers
>Arch for power users
>Gentoo for autists
>Void for superautists
>Fedora for programmers
>Debian for server admins
>Ubuntu for office workers
>Mint for normalfags and Windows refugees
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>>108680784
Nah he's gonna cope about how this time around Valve fucked up the stats while ignoring just how unreliable Steam Hardware Survey really is. Anything but to keep up his delusions since that's all he has in life.
I love seeing little retards like these in the wild, they're so goddamn cute in how desperate they are to prove people they matter, when in reality no one could give less of a fuck what OS you use. :')
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>>108677703
He's been around for a long time, and has a very popular Windows debloat/tweak tool. Pretty odd for you to be sperging out about the guy so hard. Seems like a personal grudge, or perhaps you're just a troon who hates families? I think it may be the latter, because you used the term 'offsprings' instead of children. You know, children that come from a womb? Something you'll never have lol.
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>>108678904
>What does windows provide now
Device manager, Excel, OneNote, to name just three things off the top of my head. I'm sure there's others, like working on every piece of hardware, and backward compatibility that I forgot.
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>>108680783
>minority of global personal computers
steam stats represent people using their personal computers for entertainment
chromebooks and apple toys are irrelevant as hardware, anything can browse the internet and use a keyboard
>>108680784
are you going to rope when oems start shipping steamos? windows has zero fucking mindshare left, it's all contrarian zoomers that never used 7 and have baby duck attachment to the garbage that 10 and 11 became
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>>108680850
>windows has zero fucking mindshare left
If you put swear words in there, it'll become true! No, sorry that's just not the case. Over 92% are on Windows, that's across the board. Zoomers, millennials and boomers. The trans-furry-polycule you take your talking points from do not represent the world at large.
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>>108680850
>are you going to rope when oems start shipping steamos?
No? I'll be laughing and watching the return rates. It's also a good thing if you're a fan of Windows (and I am), it forces them to keep on their toes and remain competitive against a rival.
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i use fedora for everything, what are you even doing that you need these fotm distros
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>>108680967
Shit nigga you see, Fedora doesn't boot with my modern Nvidia GPU and it doesn't included any multimedia codecs. So I rather use something that's literally the same but more convenient.
>imagine beta testing for Red Hat.
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>>108680907
>the overwhelming majority are stuck on windows because they can't install any other os
and you think that's a compliment towards windows you really are delusional
imagine being proud about being on the tail end of this
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>a fan of Windows (and I am)
you must be 18 to post here
imagine still defending the nepotistic ibm deal a decade after receiving the confirmation as to why it was a mistake
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>Bazzite for gamers
as someone who's never used linux before having a few things preconfigured for me and having immutability there as a safety net appeals to me. but is that worth it over the being part of the larger Fedora user base?
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>>108681092
It cannot play them because of codec patents, and being based in the US they have no choice. When you grow up, you'll realize that Red Hat backing is a good thing.
We're different sorts of users though. I need the OS as an engineer tool, for you it's a religion, lifestyle, and a hobby.
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>>108679137
There was a madman who made a huge PKGBUILD that recreated Ventoy and all its blobs by compiling actual source code from reputable sources, so as long as you used Ventoy from that PKGBUILD you should be fine.
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>usecase
very basic just casual gaming and browsing 4chud, don't need any special software or anticheat
>hardware
planning on building a new pc with an amd gpu, 9060 or 9070 probably
>exotic peripherals
none
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>>108681038
If Linuxfags weren't stuck up fags all the time then AppImage would've gotten a wider adoption, it's a more elegant solution than PortableApps but because it doesn't adhere to their crooked worldview of the "Unix way", despite Linux being anything but Unix, they refuse to use it out of some ass backwards principle.
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>>108681402
You are golden, literally any distro will work. Just stick to the mainstream ones.
>Arch
>Debian
>Fedora
All of these require some setup. Fedora is probably the easiest to setup, just make sure to enable "RPMFusion" for the codecs. There are a lot of guides. And if you just want to start, with minimal effort, use popular forks of those mainstream distros:
>CachyOS
>Ubuntu/Mint
>Nobara/Bazzite
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>you don't have to stay there forever
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>if you just want to start, with minimal effort, use popular forks of those mainstream distros
think I'll go with bazzite to start and hop to fedora once I'm more comfortable. thanks anons
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>>108681226
is baby wheels distro, perfect for what it is, your first steps. Eventually (a year or a month depending on your needs) you will 100% distro hop again, and that's fine, you can even go back to winblows if you want, but at the very least you did tried it.
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>>108681776
>he's playing "point at the jeet" to do le ebin own on le wincucks
>at this very moment during Linux's core distro leadership shifts
roflmao
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>cachy is great, yes, but that should be recommended only to advanced users
As someone in the process of convincing a friend to use Linux, I'm struggling to work out why CachyOS isn't a good option.
Arch was my first OS and that went fine, Cachy by comparison seems incredibly noob friendly.
In what way would Bazzite be better? Because in my opinion it would be worse due to the lack of AUR being able to pull anything someone might want to install.
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>>108679244
It may be a UEFI rootkit, the one you cannot remove from your computer, it gets injected before your OS boots. You need to throw out your computer and get a new one. Or get a new UEFI chip soldered on your motherboard.
But that's only if you treat this seriously. If you don't care about someone stealing savegames to your skyrim, then don't bother doing anything about it.
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>>108679261
> the project's leadership, specifically the CEO Vladislav Nepogodin, operates within the Russian Federation (RF).
> Any successful IT project in Russia (or any business for that matter) is automatically a target for state security services (red globohomo is only different in it's outer colors)
> no build reproducibility, hello XZ Utils
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>>108679244
The real meaning: Ventoy uses shit from a million different sources, some of which are code that isn't fully open-source. Some of these might be problematic or have aback door.
The anon meaning: You're about to be raped and murdered time to set your computer on fire.
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>>108682084
No idea, desu. You should ask someone who did some firmware tinkering. Pretty sure it is possible to access stuff on your PC before anything boots. Does not have to boot into EFI, may as well do something to MBR boot sector. Ventoy supports all of them btw.
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>>108682159
all distros are 99% similar. if someone can't get a distro to do what they want they're not actually a power user, they're just a poseur. eg, there is no difference between portage and deb-src outside of a couple terms.
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Uh no, that's missing 2 categories, where is the distro for power users that have CPUs that CachyOS doesn't support (pic related, those would be CPUs older than the ones listed here)?
Where is the minimal distro for very limited hardware?
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>>108680039
The only time my mint installation broke was because of me being stupid auto booting partitions. It's literally retarded proof if you just install from the store and use normally and everything that works on debian and ubuntu works on mint so it's easy to troubleshoot.
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>>108677162
What's a good distro for media production?
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>>108681957
I imagine the difference between cachyos and bazzite for example is that bazzite comes with all the bloat pre installed while cachyos you need to click on the package manager or "cachyos hello" program to do it for you.
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the ublue distros (bazzite and aurora) update automatically and automically. if some officecattle fucks up his PC you just get the IT guy to roll it back for them. way simpler than windows, way harder to fuck up. i genuinely believe that immutable distros will be what brings linux into the mainstream (i.e. in the workplace).
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>>108677162
just use artix or devuan
>>108677194
start with yourself millennial tranny
>>108682050
>enables secure boot and only signs the os's source built bootloader
pssh nothin' personnel, kid
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>>108682973
Tons of boomers are on board with trannies actually, it's disgusting.
And I believe the simplest answer without diving deeply at all is that they simply had it too good, that's what made them what they are.
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the dev's other project: https://github.com/ventoy/PXE/issues/106
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>>108683388
That's the new leader of Debian, Sruthi Chandran of India. Her only platform is diversity and she is a librarian. This is not an overstatement in any respect and you can read about it on her DPL page.
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I took one look at Devuan packages and lo and behold, they really are just leeching off of Debian's work.
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>>108684499
>Mint can work
>you just have to do some bullshit
His video is targeting beginners who wouldn't want to fuck around with anything. Bazzite is currently the best "I want to game and use my PC for other things" OS.
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