Is the Kisnt Kn85 a good option?

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>>108934797
I wouldn't buy something with "Creamy Sound" on the box myself.

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nth for MT3 caps (rip).

Is the Neo75 a good board for le thock

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RARE

>>108938670
Pretty nice lookin' purple.

I haven't played with this shit for years ever since my Ducky and a KBT Race from like 15 years ago, I understand the kids nowadays have wireless aesthetic keyboards for dirt cheap on AliExpress, are there any decent brands or any that should be avoided at all costs? My child wants one with a small led display that can monitor battery and show an animated gif or something.

>>108938670
>no super keys
Yuck!

Been stuck at sub 90wpm for years
What do?

>>108938951
Relax, don't tense up while you're typing, have your wrists floating & level, adjust your chair & desk to allow for the previous points to be as easy as possible.

>>108938951

as soon as get monthly wage slow it down

My stabilizers sound fucking disgusting. How are they not a solved problem in 2026? This hobby fucking sucks

>>108938951
might as well transition and kill yourself

>>108938883
I don't mind the blockers on sub-TKL layouts because I'm using layers anyway.

>>108936185
God it's disappointing that MT3 just vanished off the face of the planet with Drop. Corsair has exactly one set in stock currently (cross-promotional set for Fallout, I think) and it looks like Amazon is trying to work through everything they have laying around in their warehouses from pre-liquidation.

>>108939592
Yea it's sad. Hell at this point I wouldn't mind if GMK bought the tooling.

>>108939592
Are they even gonna bring it back. I assume it's extinct.

>>108936185
these big caps look weird
why do they all slope down like trad Cherry R5 caps
fuuuuck

what keeb do I need?
I previously had a Logi MX Mechanical and was happy with it but it broke
I ordered a Keychron K10 but it's a piece of shit and i'm returning it

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>>108940526
They don't though.

Been buying a new keyboard <300AUD almost every year since I get to claim it on tax but I'm wondering, is there an endgame that will satisfy me and dont need me to buy one every year? Some realforce topre? Or just keep buying something like a keychron every year and don't worry?

>Preferably under 300AUD so around 215USD atm
>Australia
>Brown switch
>Don't really care between ANSI and ISO
>Preferably TKL or smaller
>Backlight dont care
>Had a lot of brown and red Leopold, FILCO, Keychron, some smaller plunger keyboards etc before

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why has no one made an MX clicky with a large immobile leaf so it works like an Alps switch lmao it's so simple

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holy FUCK!
thocky plappies!

>>108939917
GMK sort of already has their own answer with MTNU at least.

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>ZERO posts on plebbit for the Keycult No. 2/60 GB
LM-FUCKING-AO
how the mighty have fucking FALLEN

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>designed by Stef Wolters
holy FUCK the name is ENOUGH
TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY
EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT THAT GETS BTFO BY A CHEAPER NUXROS 60%

>>108936530
Yes. Any high quality board that's less than 100% will have decent thockiness.

>>108936530
abso-fragging-lutely

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>long thuddy feet
Stef Wolters is a lunatic

>>108941591
Hopefully there'll be a Joe that'll get to making a reproduction of Alps in an MX form factor. I mean, surely it can't be that hard if one autist from NYC managed to bring back both the capacitive buckling spring and the beam spring, right?

>>108940003
All we have to go on is Drop's own say-so that the profile won't be dying and stuff will still get made and sold, just on Corsair's store. Given Corsair pretty much purged Drop to the point that HD6XXs are sold directly by Sennheiser instead of Drop or Corsair now, that probably means nothing and MT3 is just a dead profile now.

>>108943054
I'm actually pretty impressed by his beam spring work, he made good changes to the designs to both cut costs and add MX keycap compatibility. If anything his beam spring modules are so robust I completely ignored his warnings about their fragility, I thought I was going to need to be very careful in putting on and taking off keycaps but there's really nothing different about the process compared to an MX switch and corresponding keyboard. Overall this keyboard is less fragile and less fiddly than even the buckling spring keyboard I bought.

>>108939183
They are solved, you just can't afford a Seneca.

>>108943113
True.

Imagine if you bought a Seneca and they still weren't solved

>>108942661
>>108942967
I'm just stuck between the neo75 Cu and the evo75 on what to get for my next board
I heard good thing about the leaf springs on the evo but I don't really like how the board looks, on the other hand the neo75 has that copper plate but no leaf spring

>>108936530
Get one of the 8bitdo keyboards if a resonant chassis is your priority

>>108943210
custom > prebuilt

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Just replaced my ancient Gamdias Hermes RGB (blue switches) with a Keychron Q8 (banana switches). Still getting accustomed to the Alice layout, especially the right space bar (keep hitting fn2) but overall it's a nice change.

>>108941893
It's just too bad it doesn't have an ergo kit.

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>nicePBT Decepticons on a fucking OGR

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>>108943068
you know you want it

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>I will pay for the cable of my dreams
>no not like that!
>I won't buy a $100 chinkboard that I can resell without the cable just to own the cable of my dreams
it's really not that hard, anon
I believe in you and your dream

>>108943968
>>108943958
Too obscure for me to know what it is you're even driving at here

>>108943958
>>108943968
Buddy, I should be able to get a beige PVC sleeved cable without having to go through these sorts of gymnastics. Even a straight one would be fine, coiling isn't hard, but that shit's unobtainium. Unless I get a USB-A to USB-B and then get a USB-B to USB-C adapter, if those even exist.

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Why do you torment yourself, anon?
Your dream cable is $100 away, much less if you resell the PoS it comes with.

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>>108944025
You know what you have to do.
No gymnastics involved, I know you'd pay close to $100 for that same cable
given how much you want it
take it TAKE IT TAKE IT

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>Keycult

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>>108944003

>>108944606
Hard to tell if those splotches are on the desk or the board.

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Dadesin waifus were the sole reason Keycult was what it was
then they said fuck the Chinee, we'll do it in-house and charge more for it
look where that got them.

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SingaKBD continues to thrive
solely because of Elaine Lim
(pic unrel)

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>>108943925

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>Muh Kohaku
is NOTHING SPECIAL
Nuxros is set to destroy the competition with the Kraze 65

>>108941320
Answer me you fucks I even followed the template

>>108941771
Hey man not sure if you're aware but some kid scribbled on your arms

>>108941771
what's the top right orange board?

>>108941591
>>108943054

check out zeal clickiez. good luck finding them though.

>>108945955
If you really want 'em then email zeal with how many you wanna buy, it'll get it that much closer to restocking.

>>108945955
just use Lanes

>>108945791
Get the Kraze 65, GB starts soon
you get the choice of running MX Browns or EC (Metapulse red variant for Topremaxxing)
you can have it all

also, here's your chance to get some nice SA profile keycaps for DIRT cheap
50% off while stock lasts at MtnKBD
>https://mtnkbd.com/products/domikey-sa-profile-doubleshot-1980s-keycaps

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>>108946721
>UP/LEFT/DOWN/RIGHT instead of arrows

>>108946743
it's dirt cheap

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>so around 215USD atm
you simply cannot get better for your money with pic rel
if you don't want the EC kit, the regular option is $99 and comes with a hotswap PCB

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yeaaaah

This is one of the most autistic hobbies ever yet the problem of "spacebar sounds completely different from the other keys" has not been solved in any of the 13 keyboards I've had. From all price points. Only Realforce boards do it. Is my nitpick completely my own here?

>>108946887
There's not really any way of getting around it since it's a key six or seven times the length of nearly every other.

How do you deal with pain on the pinky side of the wrist

>>108946920
Cubital tunnel/golfer's elbow, wear an elbow brace when you sleep at night.

>>108946794
Thanks but I'm too old for this assembling keyboard tomfoolery

>>108946887
that's a 'you' problem, anon
just do it right instead of fucking it up

>>108946891
serious cope
you guys, come on
don't suffer a bad spacebar
there's resources available online, use them

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>i-is that a koi fish on a copper weight?
>in the most basic design I've ever seen?
>HOLY FUCK I'LL PAY WHATEVER YOU ASK I DON'T GIVE A SHIT
>ANYTHING FOR A KOHAKU OMG IMAGINE THE DISCORD CRED I'LL GET BY SHOWING THIS OFF

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KEKOO FOR KOHAKU

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Yep
that's a Kohaku
and that's a Kohaku
there's another Kohaku

not sure if this is the right thread but I'm sitting on a Wooting 80HE with a zinc-alloy shell here and I wanted to get a second wireless keyboard for different use cases. Is there a similar customizable 60-75 board without keys and wireless? I saw Akko has one but I don't like their branding on the front.

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I'm an angler for the ages
I went fishing and caught me some KOHAKUS

>>108947358
OK I found already alternatives

>>108947717
What did you find?

>love tactile
>want to try hall effect
am I doing it wrong?

How many keyboards is too many? I personally only have 2, the second is a qwerty one so that others can use my pc

>>108947976
MonsGeek has an assembled TMR wireless keyboard but some people claimed their software is shit. I'll just wait till there are more options.

>>108948717
I'm a practical guy, so if a keyboard isn't my work or home daily driver + one backup I keep I sell it off.

>>108948717
No more than 8, generally
no more than 12 if we're counting nostalgiabait (Command65/Class80/IBMs) or modern classics (AKB OGR/OTD 356)

ideally you'd have a few of the top mounts, gasket mounts and whatever else lies in-between across different layouts
no fucking Kohakus
just well-made boards that sell themselves on their PVRE merit

>>108948717
1 F1 and 1 Glare are more than enough for me

>>108949413
having different builds ready to swap in on the same board is a sensible flex desu

>>108949114
>OGR
if you like hollow sound, yes
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYC1VplEiY

sounds worse than a Neo, this is what happens when you think your design is good enough to sound good without heavy internal weights

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I've been practising touch-typing on a board with cherry reds and it feels so much more fatiguing than typing on my laptop scissor-switches, especially with my wrists floating in the air instead of lying on top of a laptop (but is supposed to be better ergonomics?).
would a split keyboard be worth it to reduce strain? or different switches or a wrist rest or something? I want typing to feel great and painless.

Anyone have suggestions for HE keyboards available in Canada, not imported from the US? There are some cheap ones on Amazon from "Attack Shark" and "EPOMaker" but I've never heard of these brands before. Otherwise I could go with a Wooting or Keychron.

>>108946922
Doctor said it's ecu tendonitis / tfcc for me
It hurts when i press ctrl and shift

>>108949943
go Wooting

>>108949943
See if there are any Madlions keyboards. Otherwise honestly try one of the cheap keyboards, Hall Effect keyboards have 99% of their uniqueness factor in their software, not their hardware. It REALLY does not matter.

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>$360 for the most impossibly basic PC top and Alu bottom imaginable
>$360 doesn't include an EC kit despite being designed for Realforce internals
what the fuck is this?

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nice to see AKB added an internal weight to the Metanoia
should have done it on the OGR as well
imagine prototyping and patenting your beautiful thicc OGR without giving a single flying fuck about ugly metallic resonance
completely wasted

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holy fuck
plateless Browns!

I'm looking for a low-profile wireless ergonomic keyboard that supports switching between several devices. Not necessarily mechanical. I don't mind numpads because I use my left hand for the mouse.

I don't know whether to go with a Logitech K860 or a split keyboard like the Glove80. The latter seems more ergonomic and customizable, and I'm willing to relearn touch typing, but the reliance on layers for keys I use very often like arrows or the F row makes me reluctant, plus the warranty seems relatively short for such an expensive item.

What would you recommend? Anyone here has experience with any of the options? I'm especially curious about what kind of configuration do people with split keyboards use to work with software and games that use a lot of keys that aren't in the main layer.

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>>108950688
>but the reliance on layers for keys I use very often like arrows or the F row makes me reluctant,
>I'm especially curious about what kind of configuration do people with split keyboards use to work with software and games that use a lot of keys that aren't in the main layer
I don't use columnar stagger like I think you're asking about when you say ergo, but with a split spacebar and a board that uses QMK it's not really an issue

for general usage, left space + hjkl has become more intuitive and faster for me than having physical arrow keys. in games where I need left space back to being space I have a layer toggle that puts it back and puts fn on right alt. I'm not really playing games that make heavy use of F keys though

>>108952937
oh fuck yeah

>>108952937
noice

I'm not the only one who always uses linears for the spacebar right?

i bought a keychron c1 for $50
why do i need more?

>>108953343
numpad doko???

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Any suggestions for a low profile 1800/96% keyboard?
Should I just get a 75%?

>>108941320
Go for something wild like a DIY Corne split ergo kit.
You will either enjoy building keyboards or you'll realise there's nothing more to the hobby.

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Just replaced my first mechanical keyboard (Pulsar Lunar Alloy) with my first magnetic kayboard (Keychron K10 HE)
You may proceed to laugh at my decisions as a keyboard newfag but I hate compact keyboards and and excess shit like displays and dials, so choices are slim.

Help a retard out. I've a Keychron K3 Max and recently started to play with the mapping using their web app (caps lock remapped to control, etc.). The manual says that the layer toggle can be set up as TT(), which is tap-toggle, methinks. All good, but I can't seem to find a way to change the number of taps to toggle the layer from the default 5. Any tips or guide on how to do this?

>>108954182
this might not be exactly what you're looking for but does the k3 max have a macos/windows switch on it? just have the macos layer as a different one?

>>108954237
Yeah, but I wanted to map ijkl to the arrows on another layer, which is easily toggable. Maybe there's a less retarded way to go about it

Honestly, just grab an F1 while you still can and be done with it. That thing will last you a lifetime or two

>>108949855
>wrists floating in the air
stop doing this

>>108953291
I use Linears for everything. I am the Linear master here.

>>108955240
No, floating your wrists is the correct technique. You should stop putting pressure on your carpal tunnel by laying your wrists on a surface while typing.

>>108953291
nope
HMX makes the GOAT spacebar switches
naysayers should try Snow Crash/FJ400/Lunar Stone and become true believers
either of these will simply suit your needs

>>108955240
>>108955318
just rest your forearms on your desk and keep your fingers over your keys
it's comfortable as fuck, don't knock it till you've tried it

is there a keyboard out there that has
>trackpoint
>directional arrow keys
Ive never seen one with both.

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>>108955776
This is a trackpad right?

do you niggas not do mouse recs no more?

>>108956804
Because everyone became gay and embraced wireless.

What's the cheapest 60% custom on the market right now?

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Nth for keychrons

>>108957492
tofu lol

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Baion plappieee

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Geon shits himself when it comes to anodizing his stupid keyboards
Baion got the Bias V2 done with perfect ano in Finland
Geon needs to step up or fuck off with his endless powdery silver ano releases or the coated ones with tolerance issues from the thickass coating
fucking hell

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just embarrassing

his Korean pride won't let him outsource the ano to STR
>Bowl Oblique
>Bowl Pangea Mini R2
>Jahre 65
>fuck knows what else
can't wait for another silver TKL with limited colours followed by a raw-only V2
pure excellence

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>>108959166
Ah yes, the final stage of the hobby: the on-screen keyboard layout.

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>silver
>silver
>silver
>L9 coat
>L9 coat
>RAW
>L9 coat

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>best I can do is anodize it in black and pass off the QC rejects as navy or grey

you wouldn't get it bro he does this by design to gatekeep the casuals from buying his boards the ano isn't the point the point is to run MX Blacks on Alu on every single board no exceptions it's a purist board bro you wouldn't get it he's doing this for the community bro Geon's ano means you're ready for Blacks it's an aesthete thing

>>108938791
royal kludge is fine for a starter, avoid redragon if you want actual build quality. the cheap ones with screens are all gimmick, just get a rk61 and call it a day.

>>108938951
> get a better keyboard and stop looking at your hands

>>108941591
> mfw someone reinvents the beam spring with extra steps

just buy an alps board and stop coping

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and I wouldn't have it any other way
#MXBrown

>>108947344
> three kohakus and still no idea what you're on about

>>108948717
more than you have hands, anon.

>>108948827
> waiting for "more options" is just cope, you'll be waiting forever while everyone else already moved on

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>>108956727
I was thinking more like a thinkpad clitty, but I'll look into that one too. thanks.
I found pic rel so considering that too.

>>108949114
> pvre merit? you mean paying 600 for a case that sounds like a tin can with extra steps

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>tfw actuating plateless Browns for the first time
OH GOLLY GEE, THIS ONE'S EXACTLY FOR ME

>>108952977
> oh fuck yeah

fr, that's the only correct reaction

>>108954182
check the via json or qmk source for `tap_code_delay` or `tapping_term`, that's where you'd adjust the tap count threshold.

>>108955532
> snow crash is just a worse holy panda with a gimmick name

lmao keep coping, HMX fans are the vegans of the keyboard world

>>108959713
don't knock it till you've tried it as a spacebar switch

>>108948717
300+ KBs like the owner of ProtoTypist

>>108956804
There are no mice worth recommending. You just cope with something until it's switches die.

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>>108948717
as many as you want
beige only tho

>>108959761
the Viper V3 Pro begs to differ
the Chinee have cloned it dozens of times
the shape is just that good

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>>108959794
NTA but I'm using one of said clones right now (rapoo vt7 max). It's pretty good, also that claim of 750 hours of battery at 1kHz polling is real; I've had to charge mine once since I got it in march.

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it doesn't matter what keeb you use
just put beige on it and it'll be a keeper

>>108959815
thats a man.

>>108959940
beige is the great equalizer
doesn't matter if it's a real Singa or a Kalam knock-off
just put beige on it

>>108959815
that's not beige

>>108948717
anything more than 1 is mental illness

(i have 2 alices i swap between for general usage and an HE board for video games)

>>108956804
Intellimouse Pro

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Been using gateron reds for a couple months now. I thought I could get used to them with practice, but they still feel awkward compared to membrane. I don't like how sensitive they are and the fact that the actuation happens before they bottom out. When I first got my keyboard, I was originally under the assumption that you used reds to bottom out for gaming and stuff. But that's not the case since they actuate way earlier before you reach the bottom. They're also a lot louder than membrane when typing.

I wish it required more actuation force OR that actuation only happened when you bottomed out. They also don't feel as cushioned as membranes, so when you bottom out, you just hit the bare plastic full force, but on a membrane, it feels softer on impact and you're not destroying your fingers when bottoming out. The spacebar in particular is really loud and feels the hardest on impact. It just slams down with a crack instead of a thock.

Also I get more fatigued over time because I can't simply rest my fingers on the keys like with membrane because it's so easy for them to actuate by accident so I have to take them off the keyboard entirely or hover over the keys. When I type I still make mistakes I never made on membrane. While playing shooters, I'm also strafing in wrong directions by accident. You really have to make an effort to fully commit or not commit to a key press. You actually have to be aware of your fingers at all times and you can't just focus on playing the game. It's really distracting.

Is there a mod I can do to make the actuation happen when it bottoms out or do I need to look into a different type of switch? I'd be fine with the gateron red if they actuated at the end of the press. If not, I'm thinking to try something heavier or with a tactile bump. I guess the next thing would be to try the gateron browns? I've tried using a switch tester at an electronics store but I didn't notice what issues I'd run into until I used the keyboard for a while.

>>108960274
try a hall effect keyboard which allows you to which allow you to adjust the actuation point or try a tactile switch, particularly one with sharp tactility which addresses the issue where you feel they're too light
MX reds and their clones are pretty light, I have the same problem with them where I feel just resting my fingers on the keys are enough to actuate them. Hall effects have adjustable actuation points but usually those are usually used to make the actuation closer to the top of the key press, Making the actuation point all the way at the bottom would probably make regular typing pretty annoying I would imagine.
Gateron browns would probably be a step up for what you're looking for but the tactility is not very sharp, they would only marginally feel better than reds and in my opinion you can do better than cherry mx clones with how varied the switch market is these days.
Right now I'm using HMX blue stars, they're a semi silent tactile with a very pronounced bump so that even thought the spring weight is light you do have to deliberately press the key in order to actuate it.

>>108959794
Don't get an actual Razer though, I swear their quality is worse than Chinese clones at this point.

>>108960274
You could try a heavier switch like Oil King

>>108959794
>the Viper V3 Pro begs to differ
until your scroll wheel starts failing intermittently and stops scrolling smoothly. Fuck this thing

Logos was cancelled. Got a refund notification today.

Feels bad, man. But I know I was always going to be annoyed by the little things I disliked about the design, so maybe it's for the best.

>build a "creamy" keyboard that's smooth and quiet
>actually prefer the loud affirmative clackiness of my old one
Oh no...

>>108961107
grass is always greener on the other side
Once you get used to your old one again you'll start missing your new one

>>108961160
I might go back and try to remove the PCB padding. I just like the loud sound of "productive 80s era" kind of keyboards. I even have a model M that I occasionally use. Requires too much force to use for long periods of time though.

>>108960137
>>108948717
I have
>keychron k10 pro (old desktop keeb)
>keychron c1 pro (used for desktop)
>k400 (used for my server)

>>108953476
i'm not an accountant. why do i need a numpad?

I'm waiting for keygeek to release a tactile y2

>>108961407
can you read?

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How did you guys go about finding your preferred switch?
Do you just keep buying the wrong ones until you find the right one? Some stores have switch testers, but it wasn't a reliable way for me to figure out what I wanted to be typing on long term. And then what do you do with all the switches you don't like? Do you sell them on ebay or maybe return them if it's still under warranty?

So far I've been relying on youtube and anons' advice, but you can only get the sound and description of how they feel, and then when I got my keyboard there were issues that I didn't notice until I had used it for a while. Typing on the display keyboards at the store wasn't as helpful as taking a keyboard home and actually using it for a while too.

>>108961844
It doesn't matter what switch you settle on, your stabs will make you want to fucking kill yourself unless you keep lubing them forever like a fucking slave

>>108960659
the Stef Wolters one? seriously?
forget it, there's better customs in the market than Antipode

>>108961844
try as many as you can
that's the only way to scratch the itch and accept Cherry
others just can't compare

>>108961844
if nobody is talking about it, there is probably a reason for that. all the switches I've bought that weren't the "meta: choice were usually just lackluster shit

stick to the melodics and the type-rs, hmx tactiles, the things people won't shut the fuck up about. with those types of switches, it's like, they may end up not being for you, but if they are they become your forever goto choice and there really aren't that many options when you narrow it down that way

>>108960378
I'll look into the HMX blue stars, thanks. Want to experience the basic mechanical switches/KBs before I try anything fancy like hall effects.
>Making the actuation point all the way at the bottom would probably make regular typing pretty annoying I would imagine.
The issue is that I brush other keys while typing which actuates them by accident. And since I bottom out when i type anyway, I'd like for the actuation to be the same. I'm pretty wishy-washy with my presses too, sometimes I don't fully commit to a key press even while I'm pressing it. I used to be able to get away with this on membranes, but the gateron reds are too sensitive/light for that.

>>108960555
Will check these out too, thanks.

>>108962021
I'm not either of those anons, but oil kings are just linears with a heavier bottom out force, so they wouldn't be that different from the reds,

I'm also using blue stars and they're basically my first choice for a top of the press tactile switch, but hmx tactiles are all pretty similar. Blue stars are just a popular silent option. I would definitely recommend them.

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>>108962054
He could try I dunno Quinns. I use Gateron Reds and occasionally make mistakes and my WPM is 70-80 on average and I'm totally fine with that.

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Looking to try out a mechanical keyboard.
Any of these okay?

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The F1-722 in Harbour Gray is a real looker. Man, oh man.

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Retard here. Do switches of the same color share the basic qualities even between differrent manufacturers? Are all reds X and all yellows Y or it's a total lottery?

My favourite switches for typing are MX Cherry Blues but I want to change to something more modern. Will I like Gateron Melodics? I really like clicky switches with high initial force so I don't make accidental keypresses when just resting my hands on the keyboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAvhd7n7OVY
what are we thinking chat

>>108959940
even better

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Whales take great care of their keyboards; they use them once and forget about them until it's time to downsize.

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My sincerest thanks to whales and their impulse purchases.

>>108933367
Just buy Topre.

>>108964703
>fancy expensive rubber dome

>>108963662
the bump is a lot higher up in the press and heavier than blues, so i would say yes

>>108964339
Aren't the calligraphys old? I swear they came out last year or earlier.

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>>108964703
OP here, the topre market sucks in 2026, and leopold, realforce, and HHKB have all taken away their good models
>og gray on black/gray on white fc660c
>gone
>104UG or anything with hipro
>gone
>87U
>gone
>HHKB 2
>gone

>>108962802
The keychron one is nice depending your preference for clicky switches, never heard of the other two

>>108963008
>>108964588
>>108964630
So pretty, too bad south korea decided to fuck him over with its chemical regulation in ano process
pre-regulated geon's ano was so good

>>108966132
time to enter the chink market anon
and learn the hard way that the japanese brands are all dinosaurs

>>108966132
we have EC custom boards now, you don't have to get a realforce or HHKB to get topre anymore

>>108966715
Really? What happened there?

>>108968720
>Recent Korean regulations have banned ammonia in surface treatments, increasing aluminum processing time by over five times. Restrictions on acid-based cleaning agents have also been imposed. While we strive for the highest-quality anodizing in Korea, its limitations compared to China are clear.
From Geon

>>108968772
That sucks, to say the least.

>>108965780
Thanks, I'll give it a shot then.

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>Noctua has a beige cable for a mouse
OH FUCK OFF

>>108969853
I just find it funny how there's a fan in the mouse itself.

>>108946794
what keyboard's this?

>>108969901
For sweaty palms?

>>108969853
I fucking hate this trend of mouse full of soulless hole

>>108969853
so does a $100 keeb off mechanicalkeyboards dotcom
comes in PVC all coiled up

>>108972340
I'm already gonna get assraped by import fees for the F122, not planning to get double raped by getting a $100 keeb off of a US store with US international shipping fees that I won't ever recoup the costs of.

Worst part is that I saw some guy on YT with exactly the cable that I wanted. He even linked it in a comment, it was on Ali. The product page 404's. What the fuck happened in China that these cables all went poof?

>>108971617
>https://prototypist.net/products/coming-soon-kraze65-keyboard-kit

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why does picrel even exist
what's the point of getting it when the MX Black exists?
what the fuck is this

I don't get the MX2A switches. Cherry is desperate to regain their dominance of the mechanical keyboard market post-patent expiry? Yeah tough fucking luck, """superior German engineering""" is no longer the catchy sales pitch that it used to be.

>>108972583
Superior German engineering is one of those taglines that only made sense when Germany held a patent and were the only engineers for some things, even then it's mostly related to their old cars. Their patent on MX switches expiring was one of the greatest things to ever happen to the technology. Daily reminder that Gateron started business as a Cherry switch cloner and bootlegger

>>108972565
They are beautiful unlike mx blacks

>>108972583
Why even bother? Let high-end enthusiasts enjoy their things
Budget people can enjoy their HMX or whatever they want its not like you are being forced to use Cherry MX or anything

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>>108972610
Krauts are always funny like this. Another good example is MPEG-3.
>the lossy audio codec
>patented proprietary format
>a GNU LGPL alternative is created, LAME
>utilizes the same container as the proprietary format
>the open source alternatives become the de facto standard with only the container remaining
>the patents expire long after anyone ever remembered there was a "superior German engineered proprietary codec"
And the list goes on. Technically Austrian, but Noctua follows the same line. Claims of it's superiority due to it's Kraut origins, manufactured overseas, is overrated and the competition has been offering better priced products for years. Or how Sennheiser is meant to be a premium German brand, yet they haven't been manufacturing in Germany for years.

Kraut engineering superiority is a meme. Like the thousandfold nippon steel.

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Very pleased with my B104 beam-spring keyboard from that Model F Keyboards website. Less fussy than buckling springs so long as you're not stupid and don't break any of the modules you're given for repair. Which I haven't even needed yet, I only took apart one of the modules for fun and education.

>>108972583
Cherry has an unbeatable advantage
Cherry nylon sounds better and has dat scratch
no one else comes close to Cherry nylons
that sounds like superior engineering to me, especially in a sea of disgusting squishy plastic long pole bottom outs

>>108948335
Yes definitely the two just do not mix. The point of HE is to set a custom actuation point, the tactility won't line up and it feels terrible

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With Cherries, you can customize them to your heart's desire
>snappy return? SS with triple stage springs
>bouncy return? SS with chewy
>different sound without using long pole stems? SS with Short Kings or Kailh POMs
>different sound with long pole stems? SS with Unga Bungas
>want to turn up the tactility? SS with Average Joes, Long Johns Average Joe Lights, BSUN Stubs or U4T stems
>want more wobble on your stock stems? Get it actuated 2 million times to wear it the fuck out (in a good way)
>want a different sound without any of these? Use TX polycarb films for poppy clacks or Deskeys for deeper clacks
>want a muted switch? Lube everything up with 205g0
>want a different feel? RVTURN to tradition and mount them plateless or half Alu
try having any of these options on HMXslop or whatever bullshit sells these days
fucking Cherry ONLY
NOW AND FOREVER

ever since I became more linear and lost some tactility, I've come to LOVE Cherry switches
there may be a correlation but I dunno yet
maybe in another year or two

when you take E, you train yourself to become a Cherry lover
your skin becomes more linear, and you start to like real linears with full travel that don't bottom out on the pole
you lose some tactility and you start to love MX Browns
this would make for an excellent dissertation

>>108972948
I find HE and TMR kind of pointless as a technology for keyboards sheerly because you're locked to linear, but I will say if you're the type that likes linears alongside tactiles you could get one of those newfangled TMR + MX hotswap combo boards and have a best-possible linear switch without giving up normal tactile/clicky compatibility

>>108972918
>no one else comes close to Cherry nylons
yeah because no one is actually willing to intentionally make their switches sound bad

>>108973121
I only like linears, and I've tried several dozen tactile switches new and old (including buckling springs, ALPS, even topre). It's all a matter of taste. That being said, it's not really a matter of taste that HE and current tactile switches that retail the HE featureset do not gel. Since I like linears, and HE pretty much solved linears, I like HE.

I don't think I would enjoy two different types of switch on the same board, re. the TMR thing, but you do you

>>108973210
Not two types of switches on the same board, just having TMR switches on a board that also accepts MX switches, not fucking about with multiple keyboards

>>108973195
cope

I've been using MX Browns for like 8 years and they're borderline linear which I don't like. I type a lot so having a clear tactile response of the key being pressed is helpful, but MX Browns are MX Browns, the bump is barely there. Guess I'll really like my buckling spring monster once it arrives.

>>108973530
Buckling springs are sort-of like a combination of a tactile and a linear, I've heard people call them "super-scratchy linears" before, that being said there's definite tactility and switch feedback, including the spring only flying back at the moment of actuation for a perfect signal it's done so every time, but it's not as pronounced as even some MX switches

>>108973530
>>108973586
But as far as boomer keyboards go they're still excellent and the only way you can get even boomer-er is a beam spring keyboard which is functionally a typewriter with a USB output. Don't let this comparison to linears dissuade you, I own and use an F104 from Joe myself

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>>108948717
I buy 1 keyboard once every decade, because that's how long mine tend to last.
This will only change if I ever get more than 1 computer.

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>>108973586
So the best way to describe them is that there's a linear pressure curve until the buckling of the spring upon which you have the audible tactile response of the flipper and spring? Yeah sounds like a good step-up from MX Browns where there's barely a tactile response. That and the fact that the flipper slamming the PCB is what makes both the tactile/noise response and the sound while in MX that's not the inherent part of the switch mechanism but rather an add-on on the slider stem.

I think I share some autism brainwave lengths with Joe since I understand exactly how these switches work from the schemes alone without ever having them and can tell exactly what does what. Or how I'll have to account for both the nub on the flipper and the nub in the key when floss modding so that the floss won't compress inside the spring for being too long and fucking with the buckling action. I just look at how the keyboard's built, how you open and close it and I go "yeah I understand all of it and I know exactly what I'm gonna do with mine".

I love getting new emails from Cannonkeys etc

"New GMK MTNU Welles, inspired by Orson Welles!"

Lmao. Who buys this garbage

>>108975619
Need switches with a mwuaaaaaaaaaaah sound profile to compliment them

>>108975619
I just want susuwatari MTNU but with an ergo kit to be honest. Hell it can all be blanks if they don't want to commit to legends.

>>108953525
this is pretty nice. id like to know any 75% or 70% low profile like that

>>108975261
we need more neon colors. ive got a classic-glo neon green only neon even available

How do people justify buying $500 boards that essentially do the exact same thing as a $200 board but with less features

>>108976148
iphone syndrome

>>108975619
mwahaaaaah the keeb

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>>108975672
I'd fucking kill for DMG in MTNU personally.

>>108975619
it's a fucking announcement, anon
I've seen far worse sets that should have never passed an IC
Dots and Diner and whatever else

>>108976148
no one's buying it for the essentials
keep spinning that cope anon

>>108976404
if Welles is coming, DMG can't be far behind
more MTNU sets, that's always a good thing

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>>108976655
Bugaboo would be the LED window novelties since I don't think MTNU has any kitting for those

>>108976404
Yea that's a pretty good colorway too.

>>108976670
everything in good time, anon
we will have our MTNUs in the kitting we want

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Baion plappieee

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I can't get over how the one review of this sticker on Allegro shows that the guy has one of Joe's F62/F77 repros and the same KRUX Space Carpet desk mat as I do. Literally me in a few weeks.

>>108978196
you should go to his house and have gay sex with him

>>108979606
based

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>6.25u and numpad kit is called 'Normie'

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fucking hell
grey blue patina!

>>108981351
looks like ripples in a shallow pool

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there's too much information and new technology/snake oil "features" on keyboards these days, i'm wanting to upgrade my keychron k3 (low profile browns)

i want an 80%/68 key/10 keyless board (just need pg up+down with home+end)

needs to have wired + bluetooth capability (with atleast 2 devices), no bullshit windows only software, linux compatibility

something with a similar or quieter sound profile as browns would be great, i don't want ceramic sounding keys

wooting rly be charging $370 for a keyboard in kangaroo land? youtube influencer tax included

whats a good keyboard with mx brown switches (or something similar)?

>>108981351
Do people actually flip their keyboards under to go "WOWEE that's neat!"

>>108983454
it's an art piece that you can type on

>>108982932
Durgod haha

>>108982504
Wooting is wired only and while their software is decent they are overpriced

>>108983693
now say that without a cock in your mouth

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I really wish they'd hurry up with standardizing hall effect/TMR analog switches, like was done with hotswap MX. Getting the vast majority of boards to be compatible with the same switch styles plus implemented in FOSS firmware (QMK, ZMK, Bazecor/Chrysalis etc)

That said, I just remembered I've been sitting on a set of
>KAT Cyberspace
keycaps for awhile, and may drop em on my Raise 2 at least in part.

>>108983454
kek bodied those freaks

I wish there was a type r style switch but silent/muted

>>108983454
Sadly, some retards do

>>108937819
What is this from?

>>108983757
hylic cope

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>>108983762
>>108983846
SALTED

I'm not autistic enough to build my own keyboard, recommend me some prebuilt 200~300 dollars please.

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So the crooked spacebar on the repros is actually faithful to the originals, lol

Tactile means the buttons give resistance?

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>>108985360
Not necessarily. Tactile means that when the activation happens, you feel that under your fingertips. Usually it results in extra resistance before reaching the activation point but not on every design. Clicky switches are pretty much by definition tactile, as I don't think there's been a clicky switch that lacked a tactile response. Even the granddaddies of clicky switches like the buckling spring make the activation noticeable with how the flipper slams and the spring buckles, that transfers some energy to the keycap, yet they're often described as linear feeling

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This is the force curve of a buckling spring switch. Notice how it's nearly linear until the spring buckles, meaning you don't get extra resistance while you press the key before the actuation point.

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And this is the pressure curve of the Cherry MX Blue switch. Completely different design resulting in an increased resistance before the tactile response, but unlike the buckling spring, the tactile response happens before the actual switch contact, meaning that on an MX switch you feel the response before the signal is sent, while on a buckling spring the response is perfectly synchronized with the input signal.

There are many ways to design a mechanical switch and the MX design is likely the most overrated design, with the expiration of Cherry's patents being the greatest thing that happened to the market as it not only allowed for clones to arise, but also completely new design in the same MX enclosure that has became the de facto standard due to the legacy of the 2010's mechanical keyboard market using Cherry's switches in absolutely everything.

>>108933367
>Budget
$100-$150
>Location
United States
>Preferred switch type
Cherry Reds
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Prefer none. White is fine, RGB is for fags.
>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech G610 Orion
> Other
No wireless, good reliability.

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salty queers missed out on Baion

>>108985398
lewd as fuck

>>108985775
>Baion
such a faggot holy shit all that drama and now he's making videogames as if nothing happened

>>108985795
what the fuck
Baion is a vidya dev now?

>>108985808
it's on steam even. just search the store for baionlenja

Any programmable 60% keyboards with a split space?

I'm surprised how few TMR keyboards exist but I guess the market is niche. Even less with a web drivers.

>>108936185
I got my own Dactyl just a few days ago. Still practicing to get those WPM up.
I didn't think it would be this comfy.

>>108985239
There's kind of a crash-out with both buckling springs and beam spring switches about this yeah, modern MX retards who don't understand the typeface and key positioning on those purely mechanical keyboards was not perfect and there is no reliable way to get the QA so tight that the keys are perfect every time

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It's so nice that Deskthority has their own schizos as well. This guy I think is who Thomas indirectly referenced at https://youtu.be/iZJTqUZP_lA?t=633. Dude's genuinely obsessed with Joe and his project and goes out of his way to shittalk it, from the dedicated project thread to people starting separate threads about their repro issues, like he got raped by him or something. Even when he gave genuine advice like "improve your packaging" or "hire someone", he called it "friendly" then went all passive-aggressive.

Fucker makes Joe with his outbursts look sane in comparison, jeez. Worst part is that this is a self-fueling negative feedback loop. People that got burnt on Joe will attack him, unable to form a sentence without lashing out at him, and because of that Joe will feel like he's the victim and he does nothing wrong.

>>108986777
I just realized what's the most likely culprit of the crooked spacebar on Joe's repros. The wire tabs are placed for the shorter spacebar, meaning that with the standard long spacebar the symmetrically bent wire is seated asymmetrically in the tabs, so it should be bent asymmetrically at the right point to compensate for it. It's possible that the original IBM-made Model F's had a similar issue which caused the asymmetry.

If I wanted a keyboard for both gaming and my job as dev that is mechanical, wireless, and can be combined with a mouse: should I immediately kill myself or are there any worthwhile ones out there?

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>flat staggered OEM/Cherry
>flat DSA/XDA
>tall sculpted SA/KAT
I just want something concave at 10-11mm R1 and 7-8mm R2-R4 (ideally slightly less concave at R4)
IT LITERALLY DOES NOT EXIST

>>108988102
what size board? if you just want a prebuilt TKL then I guess an evo80. maybe also swap out the switches for some HMX blue stars or silent bluish whites if you plan on using it in an office setting

>and can be combined with a mouse
what does that even mean

MTNU is what you're after I think but unfortunately it's quite expensive

Alternatively you could look about on keyboard websites and see if you can find Akko ASA keycap sets in a color-scheme you like, and there's these "CSA" keycap sets that are a lower profile sculpted option https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BRK81F3J

>>108989275
Oops meant for >>108988708
Additionally that CSA keycap link has a sculpted clone of GMK Carbon in what looks to be Akko's old ASA keycap profile; I would probably leap on that because it was my first suggestion until I remembered Akko straight up does not sell ASA keycaps whatsoever now, and there's one "OSA" keycap set there

>>108988102
>and can be combined with a mouse:
You mean like, an embedded pointing device like a clit mouse or a small trackball?

>>108986732
Nice, post pics bro.

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>keyboard has a Cherry lip
fuck yeah

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>print screem

>>108992611
>soczewki
>korekcja astygmatyzmu
Guess all the lenses in the world couldn't help with noticing that typo before shit went into production.
Besides, these Apple keycaps are useless without a proper MX-style Alps switch repro. Seriously, why has no one tried that? Alps mechanism, in the MX enclosure, without the dirt issue.

>>108938670
what is this for

any other vendors where I can go on the website and customize, other than mode?

>>108995134
define customize. I wouldn't really say you can customize new mode boards

does neo meet your criteria?

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ordering two stage springs

Talk me out of getting a tofu60

>>108996224
the more boards you own the more likely for you to suck dick

>>108996224
I have never had a kbdfans pcb that didn't have issues.

>>108996224
There's a few BOYI keyboards you can buy on Amazon that are full aluminum 65% to 75% for around $50

>>108995134
Bowl