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>>108973893
>solved technology
>in other words, so finished it stops having to move at all
I mean, what fucking kikery made this no longer the default end goal for everything? Move fast, break things, sell new things next quarter? Fuck that!
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Solved technology made complicated. The Manger was the perfect daily toolset, and it was discontinued. Now you have a bunch of aftermarket scales, mainly for the Rambler, to add the pen as well as the ability to keep more tools in the scales. Getting a Rambler with scales that have a pen, as well as slots for the toothpick, tweezers and the needle, would get you the ideal set for a keychain lifesaver.
Too bad Victorinox refuses to release that as a dedicated product though, so you have to mod a Rambler yourself!
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>>108974428
Thank you for the info friends. I'll do my further research.
>says on the handle
Sorry, it's late night in here and I'm a bit tired so my attention is low.
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>>108974469
It's a pretty good tool. I also got a set of Galvanox flat bits, as well as a bit extender with a ratchet driver to get more utility out of it. The plan is to have a pouch stuffed with genuinely useful tools like this to have a mini-toolkit to bag or belt carry. I already managed to put together an entire bed with the Surge and a Cobra XS so, y'know, it's not that dumb of an idea, these do work and come in useful.
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>>108974530
>G-Shock, so 10 bar waterproof, 10 meter fall damage proof, 10 year battery life, but ofc it can withstand more than that
>Multi Band 6, automatically syncs with time signals, so no worries about leap years or DST
>Tough Solar, so you have a battery that'll last longer than 10 years and you can go harder on the backlight since it's rechargable (also doubles as a light sensor for auto-backlight)
>Timer, a QoL feature that's never been brought back to the F-91W line of modules
I upgraded to it from a F-105W (F-91W w/ EL) and I don't regret it, it takes care of itself and it's insanely reliable thanks to that radio sync. No more nannying the runaway seconds, the February leap year correction or DST adjustments. The only downside is the brutally quiet beeper, but I've heard that the (more expensive) all-steel Made in Japan equivalent, GW-5000U, doesn't have that problem and the piezo resonates much better on that. I might get one at some point maybe.
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Fun fact: one of personal G-Shock's of Kikuo Ibe, the initiator and de-facto inventor of the G-Shock, is a GW-M5600, which is the original variant of the GW-M5610U.
The first model had Multi Band 5, which didn't have the ability to receive the Chinese time signal. GW-M5610 updated it to Multi Band 6 with that functionality, and the GW-M5610U is a modern sidegrade, doing some useful QoL improvements in the watch's UI while ditching the old EL backlight for a white LED. On one hand it no longer has the same aesthetic, but on the other the LED won't burn out like EL and it does it's job just fine, it fully illuminates the face unlike the F-91W LED.
And yes I am more than aware that the inventor of the G-Shock looks like a gook from a WW2 propaganda poster.
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>>108974599
fair enough. solar charging seems nice, but with a cheapo f91w you can just trim the battery retention piece to make room for a lithium cr2032 so it lasts 20 years.
the waterproof depth and fall damage is practically bs imo. I am not a diver and my pool is only 8 feet deep and shit works fine. if it falls 10 meters it's because I fell 10 meters and I am in the hospital or dead. not worth the extra bulk
the most value-added function seems to be radio time adjustment and maybe the timer. I get around no timer by just setting the alarm X minutes from now. admittedly loses second precision, but I have a kitchen timer for that. kitchen timer is another good solved tech
that's just me. I will not knock another casio watch enjoyer. enjoy your gshock and I will use the surplus f91s I can buy for the same money to improvise explosives
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>>108974688
>I will use the surplus f91s I can buy for the same money to improvise explosives
Which segues us to the other solved technology
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>>108974688
The 10 meter fall is just a measure of how shock resistant it is, the idea isnt that you are supposed to fall of a ladder. My cheap G-shock has been crawling over stone and smacked against metal a ton during exercises (with face down) and no issues, a few scratches on the glass
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>>108974573
>Multi Band 6, automatically syncs with time signals, so no worries about leap years or DST
What the hell, I never knew that was a thing, that's insanely cool. Seems like there's no such signal in my shithole country though, oh well.
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>>108975198
It's something lighter called naphtha, and it evaporates in about a week. It's a very good solvent too, if there's something IPA won't dissolve or clean (like glue) try naphtha, they have the opposite polarity.
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>>108974665
The springs are dogshit.
if you use a Victorinox regularly for the scissors they snap every few months.
Leatherman micras the best for similar sized scissors, but the knifes a lot smaller than a standard victorinox
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>>108975847
I have two Victorinox SAKs and I use the scissors all the time. The spring definitely doesn't snap every few months. I've only seen it happen on one that belonged to my grandfather so I don't even know how old it was but several decades anyway. The two that I use are still just fine. Also you can buy more of them online if that would ever happen.
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>>108973893
basic knife or sword
spear
shield
a basic hammer
basic shoes/sandals
blanket
basic tent
bottle/jar
bow and arrow
flint and steel (or firedrill)
furnace/oven/kiln
with that you have everything to restart civilization and continue to live peacefully until death.
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>>108974573
>>>G-Shock, so 10 bar waterproof, 10 meter fall damage proof, 10 year battery life, but ofc it can withstand more than that
If you buy a watch with a real bracelet, it'll never fall 10 meters. Any basic gasket will get you enough waterproofing for a pool.
>>Multi Band 6, automatically syncs with time signals, so no worries about leap years or DST
Sure, multiband is good, EXCEPT for...
>>Tough Solar, so you have a battery that'll last longer than 10 years and you can go harder on the backlight since it's rechargable (also doubles as a light sensor for auto-backlight)
Solar is a bad thing. It bloats the watch, and the capacitor you have to use instead of a real battery is a real pain in the dick to replace, and that's assuming you can get a replacement in 30 years. Meanwhile, the watch battery my watch uses? Well, that's been around since the 70s. And it will continue to be produced until the heat death of the universe.
>>Timer, a QoL feature that's never been brought back to the F-91W line of modules
The UX of G-shocks is even worse than the regular casio line. Yeah, let me press tiny sunken in buttons with my fucking fingernail all day. Get real, buy a real watch.
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>>108973893
you forgot picrel
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What do people even do with multitools and pocketknives? Do you grandpas all work on a construction site or something? You can open packages with a household knife, I don't see a use for the rest in everyday life
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>>108978402
Some of us leave our house.
>>108978414
Wristwatches are faster.
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>>108973893
use case for carrying this around?
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>>108978460
Came in damn handy to open a stubborn twist-to-open metal cap once. They open up real wide and are so hard they tend to leave marks on screws you tighten with them.
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>>108978402
i live on a farm. Pliers on hand is the most usefull shit ever
>>108978460
none
the cobra 125 is just an inch longer and literally half the price
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I used to check time on my phone when I was in high school, but it started to piss me off with having to take it out, wake the screen, lock it and put it away. Got an F-105W and wore it every day before switching to GW-M5610U after many years.
The "why bother phones exist" bait is so pathetic to me since that's the very reason I switched to Casio for daily timekeeping.
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>>108980371
Objectively, foobar is fucking pigshit software and there's nothing it does that mpd couldn't do. Dudes kludge together a setup and hold onto it for dear life.
In practice it's the only thing I've ever seen that can play the raw sequence files from cartridge games and I'd love to know how it works so it could be ported to real people software.
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>>108982580
I dunno, I feel like the SAKs only benefit is the low weight. The leatherman pliers are well made and really handy for me personally. Plus you can get the knife out with one hand on some of them.
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>>108978402
>You can open packages with a household knife
Or you could just pull one out of your pocket instead of going out to your way to get one.
I always have a minichamp in my pocket. It's light and small enough to never get in the way, and covers any random shit I'm likely to need around the house. I get the most use out of the nail file and scissors.
A full size swiss army knife is overkill for around home, but I've found a larger one useful in some projects.
I was unsure of how much I'd use it when I first got one, but gradually found uses and now wouldn't want to go without it. Same exact thing happened when I first got two monitors, didn't really know how to take advantage of it to begin with but now find it dead useful.
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>>108978402
I've used my multitool to work on cars, small things here and there and other things I need.
The watch is good because it's better then a phone and telling time by feel and sun/moon/star position isn't always accurate
The razor knife and mini screwdriver with different bits in the handle is self explanitory
And it's always good to have a mini flashlight on you.
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>>108982516
Not really, even the SwissChamp is more pocketable and lightweight. It's just that a Leatherman is a more heavy duty tool.
>>108983176
>I was unsure of how much I'd use it when I first got one, but gradually found uses and now wouldn't want to go without it
Now that's a completely separate group of products to talk about. So many things that you think are not worth the price, that they're gimmicks, but once you get to use them you can't imagine not having it. Like the magnetic scroll wheel of Logitech MX Master mice, a complete game changer.
>>108984616
>I've used my multitool to work on cars
Fun fact, that's how the multitool came to be. Tim Leatherman had a Fiat 600, and Fix It Again Tim was motivated to come up with a tool that he can carry with him whenever his Italian shitheap started acting up again.
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>>108973893
i own a surge i wouldnt call it 'solved technology' it can always be improved like lighter tougher materials, cheaper manufacturing and more reliability.
i end up using a sog powerpint x2 more than i use the surge because its smaller and lighter
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>>108976880
I "bag trick" mine.
Just cut a plastic bag to make a gasket/seal for the bottom of the insert.
I appreciate the Zippo so much that it makes me wish other utilities were as simple and maintainable.
It's kind of annoying that the best utility I own is used to kill my lungs and not something good or important lol
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>>108983176
>I get the most use out of the nail file
So you're gay. I was referring to how this would affect normal people, sorry Mr. Monkeypox.
>>108984616
>The watch is good because it's better then a phone
Nice circular reasoning. Do snailcat luddites really?
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>>108986239
I was close to hit but I was an autistic retard and missed my shot. I used an SAK to do some makeshift road repairs on a motorcycle too. My left foot peg came loose and I used it to tighten it and cut a zip tie.
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>>108986163
Nowadays I just keep a standard Clipper in my tool pouch. Zippos are nice but honestly, it's baffling that you have to do this shit or look for chinkshit to implement a goddamn gasket to stop the fuel from evaporating.
In case of a Clipper, I think it's better than a BiC. You can refill it and the flint bit is easily refillable/replaceable as well. And I find a flint more reliable than a piezo.
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I used to pocket carry a SwissChamp and Cobra XS, but now I only pocket carry the SwissChamp with a little pocket dangler clip. The Cobra XS went into the tool pouch alongside the Clipper and the Surge and Surge accessories like a ratchet and flat bits. I like the concept of the tool pouch since depending on how much I need it, I can chuck it in my bag or attach it to my belt, and I can stuff it chock-full of useful little tidbits like this that you'll never know when they'll come in handy.
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>>108976248
I use one for exactly two definite sizes and I honestly wish I had those specific size wrenches instead, I already trashed one such tool due to applying too much torque on it that a fixed wrench can easily handle
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>>108973893
this reminded me to check my drawer of multitools 5 years ago I had a wart on my foot and I used all the knives in my multitools to try to cut it out but now they're covered in mold and some kind of mystery film, I just tried to clean them with alcohol and cotton swabs but it started rust before I could get all the film off which was almost impossible to scrub off
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>>108973893
Search engines have been solved for over a decade when Google Search was at peak performance.
Every change since then has just been made in the pursuit of higher revenue and every single time it sacrificed performance/functionality.
Also, I'm pretty sure social media, at least on the current relevant platforms, is essentially a solved technology too. We've gone from a decade of getting a new major site every couple years to zero major sites appearing after TikTok while the existing major sites have just copied features from other sites (like instagram and youtube copying tiktok).
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actually i much prefer the victorinox multitools now after owning both leatherman and vic. not a bluecollar guy just a homeowner though, so maybe my perspective isnt that useful. go to tool for around the house projects and gets 99% of stuff done on its own. gshock also mogs.
>pic rel spirit mx
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>>108988624
it's true im sad im gonna have to throw these out i had some of these for 10+ years this is what one of them looked before i cleaned it
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>>108988928
wrong model
also MMCX mod + thicker pads = endgame
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>>108978402
>Do you grandpas all work on a construction site or something?
you have it completely backwards. /g/ thinks multitools are great because you all work in offices, or are neets. You would be laughed off the jobsite if you tried doing real blue collar work with a fucking leatherman
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>>108974445
Good ones? Multitools are ass. Good multitools are great.
>>108979060
I use my Leatherman Wave all the time
>>108984580
Butterfly multitools are the best. The blades and the pliers are the two best bits
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>>108989959
Multitools aren't meant to replace the tools on a construction site. They were never designed for that. They are better than nothing in a situation where you need to complete a single task that you find suddenly and couldn't plan for it by carrying your toolbox with you. The Swiss Champ has 33 functions, if you can't think of any use for any of them ever then that's on you, not the tool. I use mine all the time. If a screw is loose on a door handle I don't have to fetch a screwdriver or at work ask for maintenance to do it, I just reach for my pocket and solve the issue. If someone is getting a new phone and a protective cover but can't get the tapes off and wishes they would have scissors then I have those right in my pocket. If something wooden or metallic has a jagged edge that feels sharp for the fingers I can just file it down a little so it doesn't hurt anyone. If my kid's toy needs its batteries replaced but the hatch is screwed in I can just open it right away. I even used the ruler recently because at work we couldn't find a real ruler anywhere and it was better than nothing. I just used a charging cable as a helper and held my fingers on the spot that's the right distance. I don't have to throw my hands in the air that "I got nothing, someone else needs to do this". It teaches you to think like a man.
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Not him but victorinox is usually much higher quality and also much cheaper.
I have plenty of traditional vics, the scissors are so good, I won't use anything else for cutting nails and such.
Leatherman does have much better designs though, pliers are essential and one-hand opening locking knives are too. Vic seems really scared of the latter.
Even my $140 wave plus had quality issues, the pliers opening is gritty sometimes, the knife blade is too stiff, cannot be adjusted, and gritty if lubed too.
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>>108988117
used it wrong and spread the jaws? It's counter-intuitive but you use it upside down, as pictured.
>>108988186
Huh? Are you brainless?
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>>108989996
Meanwhile the PortaPro's are nothing but muddy bass. Best part? Put KSC75 drivers on a PortaPro headband and vice versa, the headband pressure is what causes the muddy bass and the ear clips are what causes the bass roll.
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>>108990677
they were way too far gone like i said all i had was alcohol and swabs itd be cheaper and more sensible to buy new ones so i dont unleash a new virus
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I have one of these and its actually sick as hell. way better than typical leathermans that are needle pliers and too many knives
>>108978460
i bike and my bike falls apart all the time so i carry around an adjustible wrench. vise grips/slidy wrenches are dogshit though
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see above (bicycling)
>>108976248
i have three of these and an automatic wrench and literally only use actual hard wrenches when i want to use my spanner. adjustible wrenches only have a bad rap because of ones made out of pig iron sold by Harbor Freight in the 90s
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when i was in the navy, every new guy would buy a gshock and they would always break after one deployment. no one bought multitools though because we get issued Gerber Multi-Pliers (they're ok, bit overpriced tho) and even if you somehow don't get yours, people forget them everywhere and never get them back as they get posted around so every ship has like 9 of them just sitting around in every space. i have two or three now because of that (but got my jacket and eyepro stolen)
speaking of, stay away from Revision eyewear. we get issued those and they fucking melt under running water. the coatings on them are dogshit and flake off when more wet than a bit of rain
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secure workspaces (gubberment/military/glowie/defense/finance/etc)
and yeah places where phones are just impractical, like if you're doing xtreem sports, working around heavy machinery and dont want to break your shit, etc
still a few things where you dont have your hands free but might want the time, too, like biking/motorcycling, or anything in the outdoors in the cold when your glubs are too heavy to comfortably operate a phone
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>>108993001
Looks salvageable IMO but you do you.
Victorinox has a lifetime warranty does it not? Might be able to send them in for servicing at a lower price than new ones. At least any of the larger ones, if they're the really cheap ones then might as well get new ones.
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okay pal, first off, my place isn't a pig sty, sometimes warts just happen. second, not the whole drawer was infected but just the knives because i used them to do surgery on my wart.
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even barring embarrassment if i sent them for service i wonder if they would even work on them due to biohazardous reasons
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>>108991768
the one i posted (spirit mx) has both one handed knife and pliers... and the quality is much better and i just feel like the tools are designed better. the 3d philips driver is way better than the leatherman i had with a weird flat one. as you noted the scissors are as good as it gets.
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They have the Wave Alpha now, which is more like that Surge, with the big scissors on the outside. I'd also suggest looking at a Victorinox Spirit though, it's not as one hand friendly as the Wave but is otherwise a much better tool in most ways IMO.
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>>108994557
>Kids raised by the internet think everythings a jewish conspiracy these days.
Some old fart wisdom, used an old leatherman wave for years, still got it.
Always try & buy the lightest model possible
Mainly used the pliers & screwdriver tools on deployments, a good tip is to ditch the case & use a lanyard then loop it round a belt loop on your trousers/jeans & stick it the front hand pocket (you'll never loose it & its always at hand).
Don't buy all the extra doodads except the pocket clip, you'll never use them.
Get your name engraved on it, saves someone else claiming it & your chances of it getting returned when lost increases.
Gshocks, the battery always go dead after a couple of years unless there the solar ones but they are more unreliable in my experience.
Your better off with one of the cheaper ProTreks.
>Never seen anyone get 'degloved' from wearing a Gshock, BAKA just ridiculous.
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It is something you don't use 99% of the time but you are so used to have if leave it you regret it. It is like always having napkins or sunglasses with you. That being said, the least used knife/tool is my swisstool. It is too heavy, the instruments are nice... if need to repaid a motorcycle in the wild. It is just too heavy. Same goes for the 111mm work champ, too many layers, the blade its not its right place, the handle is more wide than tall and it just not feel right. Hercules is better but not by much. The best swiss pocket knife hands down is the atlas and I have 13 of them so I know. It has everything, the handle is rounded square shape and very comfy in is not too heavy, it has Phillips screwdriver and corkscrew and the Philips is at better place. I has small pliers that can crimp cables. It has all the useful tools work champ has without the shit ones that no one uses ever. The problem is they don't make it it anymore. If you don't need the pliers get Trekker. If you also don't need saw get centurion. There is no point of getting swiss knife with less tools than the centurion, they are not noticeably lighter and you lose all the good tools. If you need bigger knife there is what was Wenger in the past but now is Victorinox ranger grip 130mm. Model 74, 79 and 78 are absolute winners. if you need the extra length and do not mind the weight. 95 was also a beast but they don't make it anymore.
Overrated models you must avoid:
1. Anything without a lock. They may feel ok when new but in 4-5 years of use the springs get softer and this is not good for slip joint knife, you can cut your fingers and they tend to snap on you. The 93 mm 2 layer alox knife (aka soldiers knife) it less of a knife and more of an IQ test. It has no lock, it has smallish blade, it weights 70g. 2 layer 111mm knife with plastic scales weights 80g has more (and better) tools and bigger better locking blade. And it cost less.
2. Cybertool - if you own one kill yourself.
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just use citric acid and it will remove all of it
next time coat everything with oil
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There are oils specifically for knives/tools, best use one that meets food safety standards.
Victorinox sells the exact one they use, though I'm sure you can find alternatives for less money (I'm seeing prices of ~$6 to ~$15 depending on the store, a bit steep for such a small bottle though it's realistically more than you'll ever need).
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Ridgid Pipe wrench, none better and reliable as it gets. the only argument for it "not being figured out" is that there are alternative wrenches with different jaw placements/angles, however the jaws are the same with the same mechanisms. Another solved piece of tech would be the Buck 110.
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use food-grade mineral oil it's the same thing and it's very cheap
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>>108996725
but just to be clear, mineral oil differs mainly in terms of safety (pharmaceutical, baby, cutting board are the safest) and chemical additives (for gun, knife, tool, industrial uses) which are usually toxic but improve performance in some ways. Food grade mineral oil is very cheap. You posted a tiny, 10ml bottle, here's a random product on Amazon I found:
>Lubrisolve Food Grade Mineral Oil for Cutting Boards, Countertops and Butcher Blocks, Slate and Stone 2 litres (2000 ml for americans)
>about $23
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>>108978402
the most useful part of them is the multi head screwdriver, every now and then you need it to open an electronic device or something, the blade and pliers are useful too since you always have it around
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>>108998348
>the multi head screwdriver
You get like 2-4 bits, they're trash. I have a little 15 dollar screwdriver kit I bought off alix, it has most bits, in decent quality and a few of them are long bits, and the screwdriver is electric. That's my go-to 90% of the time, the other 10% of the time I need a real screwdriver.
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>You get like 2-4 bits
I have a kit with like 10 bits but i dont think ive used more than 3 or 4 out of the set
>they're trash.
good enough to get the job done for me, idk whats trash about them
>I have a little 15 dollar screwdriver kit
individual tools are usually better
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>>108973893
That Victorinox is one of the worst models you could have picked. Compact and Manager are the ways to go.
G-Shock is retarded. They're insanely bulky, overcosted and don't do anything a terrorist Casio doesn't do.
Leatherman is retarded. I will never need two different knife blades. It should be knife, file, saw, large scissors.
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>>108974447
>I mean, what fucking kikery made this no longer the default end goal for everything? Move fast, break things, sell new things next quarter?
It's called capitalism, baby. Creating shitty products and selling them a hundred times is more profitable than creating one good product and selling it one time.
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The endgame corkscrew
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>3 watches, 2 multitools, 1 muslim passport
Would kick out of my country out of 10
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>>108998115
If anyone uses 3d printers, this advice works for those too. Don't buy expensive lubrication for 3d printers when sowing machine oil is already perfect for machines that move, and it's very cheap. (it's basically just mineral oil.)
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Corks are dumb since screw caps exist.
Also you posted the wrong one.
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>capitalism
Funny how capitalism claims to be this time tested old age way things have always been done, but up until a hundred years ago, things were built to last instead of planned obsolescence, so we could build new things and progress as a civilization instead of solving the same problems and selling the same breaking shit over and over again while someone pockets all the civilizational profits. And calling it out is a hate crime.
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>>109001455
Those are the most aesthetic corkscrews, but the monopol style pretty much does everything for you. Lock it to screw in, unlock it to screw up. It's as if someone discovered the scissors and managed to keep them under a patent
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>>108974455
Oh damn, I have a manager on my key chain, lost one at the airport years ago and bought another. The pen regularly comes in handy. I am very disappointed they discontinued that. Think I have a rambler somewhere too.
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>>109001455
The other one can be made super cheaply and they still work well.
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>>108976248
replaced by superior technology
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