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The EU wants Google to hand over massive amounts of search-engine data to competitors under the Digital Markets Act, arguing that Google's dominance comes from 25 years of collecting search behavior that nobody else can match. Their logic is simple: Google gets the most users, which gives it the most data, which makes its search better, which attracts even more users. Competitors like DuckDuckGo, Qwant, and even AI search tools are stuck in a catch-22 where they can't improve because they lack the data needed to compete.
The proposed measures would force Google to share things like search queries, clicks, rankings, and user interaction signals-the stuff that teaches a search engine what people actually want. Google says this isn't just technical data; it's a giant collection of highly personal information. People search for illnesses, financial problems, relationship issues, addresses, and other sensitive topics. Even if names are removed, Google argues that search histories are often unique enough to identify individuals.
The biggest fight is over "long-tail" searches. Google already shares some aggregated data, but excludes rare queries because they're easier to trace back to specific users. The EU says that's exactly the valuable information competitors need. Critics see Google's privacy concerns as partly genuine and partly convenient, since its search-data monopoly is one of its biggest competitive advantages.

https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/commission-proposes-measures-google-sharing-search-engine-data-third-parties-under-digital-markets-2026-04-16_en
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>Competitors like DuckDuckGo, Qwant, and even AI search tools are stuck in a catch-22 where they can't improve because they lack the data needed to compete.
I don't think that's how this works.
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Google Search has declined over the years to the point where it's currently unusable, allowing Google to boost its "AI" search. Another marvelous choice made by the EU.
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>>108997689
Doesn't Google already allow third parties access to their search APIs though? Seems like the EU is overreaching as usual
>>108997728
I don't even think their search engine is their main breadwinner anymore, it's Android and AI now
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>>108997780
Their breadwinner is only cloud and ads (i.e. google). They make significant negative moneys on AI and nobody uses it except that it's forced down everyone's throats and cloud costs have been increased under the excuse that "but it has AI now!!11" with no way to opt out. They also decided to rebrand all cloud as "AI" even though that's the opposite of what is going on.

Google does not allow competitor access to APIs, it is expressly forbidden in the rules.

>>108997722
It is, but not for the way it's stated. The problem is that increasingly heavy anti-scraping measures have been added to every website ever, and scraping is how you build an index in the first place. Google profited from a time of much more open internet and now it's basically impossible for others to use the same strategy.
Supposedly at least, but in my experience, the best sites (most relevant niche info, and if you're searching it's really because you are looking for something you can't know offhand, so biased toward niche rather than common contents) have little to no such scraping protection, and the real winners will use a good scrape seed set instead of casting a wide net and falling for SEOmaxxed AI articles everywhere.
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They should share map data, especially shop infos. OSM cant compete
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>>108997689
>but muh USB-C
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>>108997689
>which makes its search better
Google search is shit though
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>>108997689
what about forcing them to stop the sideload locking attempt, stupid first worlders falling directly to the trap just like you fall for my fellow pajeet scams
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>>108999073
Phones are embedded devices and you shouldn't really expect to be able to govern how operating systems are deployed on them. If you want something with sideloading capabilities you should just get a proper PC
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>>108997689
>proposed measures would force Google to share things like search queries, clicks, rankings
It's mostly trash produced by bots, nobody wants that data.
Completely retarded solution. The obvious solution is obvious. Ban Google from being defaut anything in Europe and things will change on their own. The only reason Google is Google because of placement and controlled opposition remaining under Google's control.
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>>108999073
That is literally diametrically opposed to their interests. Their number one priority is gaining more surveillance powers giving you an escape hatch from that on your phone is just not in the cards lmao
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>>108997689
Instead they should make it illegal to collect these data and redirect google.com to duckduckgo or something until it complies.

>which makes its search better, which attracts even more users
No... Their results always kept getting worse, and people use it only because it's their default search engine.
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>>108999073
Because muh security they say.
But the truth is that you don't touch Apple and Google's golden goose. Also, Nintendo and Sony are probably there too, for if Apple and Google were forced to let users install anything on their devices, next people would ask for game consoles to allow this too at last. (which as an amateur game dev I would love, but unfortunately it will never happen)
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>>108999142
I still use google because its searches seem to better (i used ddg and brave so far)
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>>108999208
Yeah everyone agrees it's still the best. But it's so bad it is useless 99% of the time. It used to be useful 99% of the time back in the days. Quite the swing.
Other engines suck because scraping is so much harder now, of course, but largely because they're obsessed with copying google. They often use google automated searches to create benchmarks and optimize this. Basically, it's all overfit. The solution is so simple, but the financial incentives aren't there.
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Communism wealth redistribution for corporate
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>>108999252
get a load of this migger
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>>108999186
fdroid was too niche for them to even care, I think it's just part of their nwo agenda, why would they kill themselves by becoming cheaper appleshit
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>>108997728
it's 100% intentional. the more searches you do, the more money they earn off you
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>>108999080
ok fine, i dont want a phone.
oh no, i have to have one for banking and literally everything else
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>>108997689
yet another EU shakedown ep.1488

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