>>109000853 >Assuming someone cracks self-improving AI in the next 20 years Won't happen in the next 2000 but go on
>do you believe we'll hit utopia or dystopia? Neither. We'll have total human extinction. Only logical thing for a superior being to do is exterminate all inferior beings.
That's like asking "Assume we invent Star Trek replicators in the next 20 years." Why would I take this scifi crap seriously?
Even if AGI would be cracked, it's baseless nonsense to just assume an AGI will also be self-improving. We're a general intelligence and we sure as shit can't build better human brains, with billions of us, after existing for millennia.
We live in dystopia already. Democracy was broken, 'Muricans speak like commies (muh late stage capitalism, universal base income, muh robots with AI), Europeans lost control of their own countries, oligarchy sold half the industrial might of the Western civilisation to commies and 3rd worlders for short term gains, non renewable hydrocarbons are wasted in absurd amounts to produce synthetic fertilizers to grow cheap food for Africans so they would continue to mindlessly multiply until the entire worlds oil and gas industry hits capacity limit (and you can't stop it because hum poor african chindren dying of hunger, except it would be like 100x times worse if you stop subsidies), indians already hit capacity of their own country and started spilling all over the place (I personally don't hate them, just can't understand why the fuck there are so many of them), climate change is talked about only as long as everything is fine, but when war completely pollutes absurd amount of land and water due to war, nobody mentions that. There are more virtual money than good you can buy with them. Most global corporations used to compete furiously for market share (to such a degree they'd start proxy wars and fund revolutions), now they're cartels, it's even worse than before for the regular people. There is basically no scientific progress. Diminishing returns everywhere. Nobody knows how to build sustainable economy, everything is either in steep decline or in cancer growth speed mode, nothing in between, same with demography, because it is directly related, yet nobody mentions it, besides degens like Elon, who is actually just doing marketing for his artificial impregnation company, does not care about demography or economy, only money in terms of short term gains.
>>109000853 dystopia, obviously. who controls the biggest LLMs? lolbertardian bros that want to control everyone, and are using the LLMs as a surveillance and political control tool rather than to actually help improve people and the society as a whole. they are taking individualism to its extreme.
>>109001422 >We're a general intelligence and we sure as shit can't build better human brains Selection alone can build better brains, and we aren't even allowed to rev up the experimentation with novel genes since we know with certainty it works.
>>109001590 >using the LLMs as a surveillance and political control tool rather than to actually help improve people and the society as a whole. >they are taking individualism to its extreme You got it backwards.
>>109000853 >Assuming someone cracks self-improving AI in the next 20 years, do you believe we'll hit utopia or dystopia? Not possible with digital computing. We are hitting a plateau on miniaturization.
>>109001377 Days before the Wright Brothers first flight the New York Times published an article saying heavier than air flying machines would not be possible for tens of thousands of years.
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>>109001187 why not just become an immigrant? >if you can't beat em, join em
>>109002065 No they were writing about megacorps achieving heavier-than-air flight internally for years in advance, but it being too dangerous to release to the public.
>do you believe we'll hit utopia or dystopia here's the blackpill: it's the same thing given humanity's tendency to polarize over every single thing, half will not agree with your definition of a utopia so what will you do to the other half to enforce it? given now that you've succeeded in "including" or "excluding" this half that doesn't agree, what will be the result of your society now? happiness lies in striving for a goal, not having it all, that's where depression lies, and we're back at dystopia
>Assuming someone cracks self-improving AI in the next 20 years you mustn't be keeping up because that shit will be achieved no later than this year
>>109004129 the AGI term is a follow-up on the term ANI (artificial narrow intelligence) meaning hardcoded intelligence: it can beat you at chess the first LLM is by definition the start of AGI so yeah LLMs are AGI, more and more by the day