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We discuss the future of SadPanda and where it's headed from here.
>SSD storage prices keep on increasing, servers getting more expensive to maintain
>Many archive sites have died due of this (Myrient as a recent example)
>Flood of AI galleries gets uploaded because the admin allows it, further occupying these precious storage spaces meant for actual genuine and unique handmade human works
>Furthermore these AI uploaders abuses the site's bounty and point system through these galleries by contributing absolute nothingburgers to the community
>Worst case scenario is that SadPanda gets shut down for good and we'd lost decades of precious archived hentai which are accessible for free and not found anywhere else
What are we to do in this predicament? How are we supposed to live, love, and laugh in these conditions? Discuss.
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It'll die at some point just like everything in life. Whether it'll be in the next 5, 10 years or even in your lifetime is anyone's guess. Only thing you can do as an individual is save what you can to lessen the impact for when it does go belly up.
That or hope/rely on alternatives, but being beholden to someone else's servers will just put you in a cycle.
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>>8849268
Agreed 100%. Image based media (like doujins and imagesets) are incredibly small and easy to store, my recommendation is that anybody who wants to make sure they keep access to their favorite doujins should get a decent drive (SSD or HDD doesn't really matter, ideally you get two and toss them in a RAID 1 config), and just start downloading. Hitomi downloader is great for Windows, not really for macOS. Sometimes e/xhentai will have torrent download options, but it's not guaranteed. Same for images from Pixiv, videos from wherever you get videos, even for more "normal" stuff like YouTube videos. Shit gets taken down and drives fail all the time, if it's something you care about keeping access to, download it.
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>>8849270
The problem with AI is that it floods the website.
It wouldn't be such a problem if these favela monkeys had any taste or any standards at all.
But they will post 250 image galleries with 50 different variations of the same prompt with no clean up at all.
Makes no sense.
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FYI Ehviewer got hit by DMCA from Jewcob Fakku. Dev is looking to appeal, but not sure if will succeed next week.
https://github.com/FooIbar/EhViewer/issues/2927
Some H extensions including Lanraragi for Mihon and other Tachiyomi forks also had takedowns. So even if sites comply with Fakku/Irodori DMCA, third-party apps will get fucked from hosting on github.
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>Flood of AI galleries gets uploaded because the admin allows it, further occupying these precious storage spaces meant for actual genuine and unique handmade human works
Love that it's almost gotten to the point where I have to hide the "english" tag, every fuckin day it seems I see a new gallery with ENG in the title and open it to instantly see that shit stain AI translated watermark in the bottom right corner, complete with misaligned text that extends not only out of speech bubbles but out of the actual image itself, scuffed up art that looks like a magic eraser was run across half the page to compensate for redrawing text that had no background, and of course "english" that makes no fucking sense to an actual native speaker, all posted by some shit skinned ESL in new dehli posting shit in between his phone scams to the elderly.
And all you can do is send in a fruitless expunge report for obscuring scanmarks or advertisement and get downvoted by the dickeaters that have flooded the site that don't care or are openly promoting the slop...
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>>8849261
The AI astroturfing is annoying, and most times it isn't labelled. The tagging system in general is retarded. Something can be blatantly obvious, but unless you are level 15 or above you can't tag it. And even a decade-long pervert like me is only level 8, so you can't help other people find things when it comes to labeling certain niche tags... Fuck Fakku btw. When the next good hosting site comes along, everything I got gets uploaded and I'll consider it part public service out of spite.
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>>8850707
DMCA is a retarded, outdated shit law that needs to change. There is some work being done by FULU to reform the DMCA, knowing the US, nothing will change, but there is some hope that it'll become less shit over time.
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where were you when Jacob became the savior of hentai?
I FUCKING KNEEL
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>>8849261
If you haven't learned from sadpanda's various outages over the past 20 years, you should be saving all your favorites locally. My "sadpanda Preserve" folder is 141 gigs of 1300 folders and that's not even including AI galleries that I've saved - the AI is another gigs.
Crying about AI in 2026 is absurd because even if there was zero AI on sadpanda, the majority of galleries would be shitty 4-page "CG sets" from a single uploader trying to game the upload credit system... which you complain about for AI despite AI galleries at least having some variety. The time of sadpanda getting dozens of doujins and manga daily has long since passed.
If you aren't paying to maintain their servers then you have no grounds to complain one way or another.
I will continue to be grateful for whatever I can get from sadpanda, whether it's AI or not.
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>>8850726
Hitomi scrapes Exhentai and re-encodes every single file. And Exhentai almost never has the original files because of retards like TT who re-encodes files, rapes the image quality, calls it lossless, and everyone nods in awe.
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>>8850969
Are there any other strawmen you'd like to blow down, Mr Wolfe? You typed out a lot of words to ignore what I wrote and then complain about other things instead.
Today seems to be getting some books, but yesterday when I checked the front page this was all I saw. This is a standard front page for 5 out of 7 days every week - a dozen small sets from a single artist (which are one image with 4-11 variants), uploaded as CG sets instead of as a combined gallery. I never said "one person" did this, I said that the dozen sets would be uploaded by a single person in that burst of uploads.
Conversely, I can turn on "misc" and search for other:"ai generated" and get a dozen equivalent-quality AI galleries that have, at the very least, some image variety.
I do not care who or what makes the hentai that I masturbate to. I only care that it looks good enough to fap to. Balecxi generates better porn than was produced by 99% of real human artists.
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>>8849270
its a ceaseless flood of garbage taking up storage space at an exponential rate and maybe 2% of it at most is actually worth holding unto
its also whats driving up storage prices to begin with so its a double whammy of ass
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>>8850976
You can filter galleries by their number of images or who uploaded them. You look retarded when you tell people to filter LLM slop instead of getting mad over it while you yourself get mad about CG sets.
LLM slop will always be dog shit. The only reason anyone bothers uploading it to Exhentai is because it's one of the two easiest ways to make as much points.
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>>8851183
>You can filter galleries by their number of images or who uploaded them.
I'm well-aware of both of these and not sure what your point is. I am not complaining that I can't ignore them. I'm lamenting that the golden age of sadpanda, when it would get dozens of new full 200-page books every day, is long gone.
>You look retarded when you tell people to filter LLM slop instead of getting mad over it
Good thing I didn't tell anyone that, or I would look retarded.
>LLM slop will always be dog shit.
This is an utterly retarded statement, on par with "hentai will always be dog shit" or "television will always be dog shit." You're not talking about upper-crust high-class Rembrandts. You're talking about drawn pornography. How it's made doesn't have any effect on its quality. Plenty of hand-drawn porn sucks. Plenty of machine-drawn porn sucks. There are also examples of both that are really, really good.
There are good, intelligent reasons to hate AI, but "it looks dumb" is as far from the top of the list as you can get.
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>>8849261
>complains about AI
>no mention of the cosplay galleries shitting up the HENTAI site
If I wanted to look at 3DPD, I'd go to a website for 3DPD. At the website that has the word HENTAI in the name I am expecting HENTAI and NOT hideous pug-faced niggers making a mockery of Megumin and Nami.
At least some of the AI content is worthwhile.
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>>8851213
>fails at basic reading comprehension
>calls other people retard
He is complaining about storage space on the website, for the reasons described.
With that in consideration, WHY is cosplay slop allowed to waste space on the HENTAI site you COMPLETE fucking spastic? 99.999% of it is dogshit anyway.
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>>8851227
The Cosplay tag has 41,917 results. The first cosplay gallery was uploaded 19 years ago.
The AI Generated tag has 240,387 results. The first AI Generated gallery was uploaded a mere 4 years ago. And it's only going to at least double from here on out.
Oh, and cosplaying isn't responsible for RAM and SSD prices to spike up. And it doesn't take away clean drinkable water sources from cities. And it doesn't require purchasing estates to build AI data centers. And it doesn't take away jobs from other humans. And it doesn't receive billions in funding from the government.
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>>8851241
And if it were just that it'd be fine, unfortunately the fuckwits then choose to upload the lazy incoherent trash to boost their accounts, degrading the overall quality of the site by filling it with unintelligible downscaled (cuz they NEVER download the original filesize) shit that looks like it was edited and typeset in MS Paint, and risking actual scanlators not touching the works at all cause they already see an "english" version has been posted.
The least these shit-heels could do is ocr the damn pages manually, and properly typeset the shit, just put the SMALLEST bit of effort into the production of their garbage, instead of running it through that fuckin AI site and just posting whatever result they get from it, at least then they may be able to go an hour before the gallery gets 0.5 starred to oblivion for being in the most broken english humanly possible.
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As much as I hate the pony fucker, there is really no good alternative.
His lackeys who show up once every 2-3 weeks to look at the janny hugbox manage to be more childish and irritated than the admins of Reddit, the janitors of frontpage subreddits, and the trannies of a certain site that can't be mentioned on this site.
Once he's gone, they're going to Chinkify the site and make the Chink social credit system look normal in comparison.
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>>8851718
They all started out like that, trying to go legit later down the line. Same story with Crunchyroll and now recently MangaDex, they're all the same.
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My real question is why hasn't anyone made a site that hosts AI generated content exclusively but a is carbon copy of Sad Panda or Imagefap or whatever else gallery archive site that exists, it would be better to do that atp than have it all lumped in with archived organic hand drawn art, artcels get their safe space and AI fags get to upload and delete whatever slop they deem wasteful when the day comes, when AI fags want to scrape a site they can be sure itll be human drawn or robot drawn for training (yes this does matter as AI inbreeds its own mistakes into itself).
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>>8851759
Jewcob, Fakku's founder insists he planned on stabbing retards in the back. But that's an obvious lie. He scraped Exhentai and profited off ads and selling illegal items. Even when he'd been working with Japan "legally" for a year, he kept doing it and he only stopped when they gave him an ultimatum. Also, it was Wanimagazine that asked him to work for them.
Mangadex planned on stabbing retards in the back all along and they were quite open about it.
Crunchyroll was the same as Fakku.
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>>8851928
I'm not "singling out" anyone - there are multiple people who do it.
If the e-hentai moderation team has decided that it PREFERS 4-image separate Artist-CG galleries instead of combined "artist's whole catalog" image set collections then the mod team over there is completely compromised and there's no hope for the future of the site.
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>>8849261
The only problem I have is they let AI take over the other Misc. category and not create a new one. Or have an checkbox to block AI like pixiv. They also need an opting that differentiate between complete AI work and partial AI aided work like DLsite.
>What are we to do in this predicament?
Well the first scare should have woke everyone up to make private backups of your favored stuff. Viewing the stuff locally on your client also helps out SadPanda preventing excessive repeat viewing traffic. Just make sure to download the originals. I've backed up almost 200 of my all time top Doujin/Manga.
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>>8849268
>Only thing you can do as an individual is save what you can
just know that in a lot of countries you will be thrown in prison for having underage drawings on your device and the surveillance state increasing means that will become a greater reality.
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I'm a newfag and somehow got access to exhentai after years of trying to get in. How do you sort uploads by score? On gelbooru you can type "sort:score" in the search bar but the only way I can figure out to filter low score posts on exhentai is through the advanced search minimum star rating filter which isn't very helpful. Sorry I can't add anything of substance to the thread. The news of Myrient shutting down fucked me up but if the hentai archive sites go down too I'd probably off myself.
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>>8850937
>dear goyim
>giving me your money is the only way to support artists
>why am i paywalling dead artists and censoring their content on other sites? stop noticing, you gentile!
>only me and my attack dog "irodori comics" is allowed to bootstrap off copyright infringement
>i am free speech because i said i am, that's why i'm not a hypocrite when i censor you before "legally" ruining your life
>and this is how i'm saving hentai
>thank you for your attention, ampissraelchai
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>>8850937
I know this is bait but that gay boyrapistcob cant get killed soon enough when heritage and the card companies start eyeing him further as he already removed all "mean" content, his shit company will have no community support, more and more people know this faggot is a retard who attacks sites and content he doesnt even license period and whines misinfo about piracy to peple who know better like its a fat 80 years old woman who doesnt know what the internet is, even tho we know hes a fat boy rapist who was there at the start and used it to fuck the community over for profit
I have no idea what sort of complete retard pays for his site, it takes a special kind of mongoloid, but as he loses people and the moral panics worldwide get worse, its a matter of time before hes "noticed"
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>>8849261
I don't understand how there's space for all these AI galleries, storage space must be no issue at all.
I saw that Tor .onion is now supported but you can't make accounts via Tor. Am I wrong?
If you can't make accounts via Tor it seems a bit half-baked.
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>>8852353
fakku has different paywalls. "fuck_sub" refers to fakku's paywall called "fakku unlimited" which is online DRM and the content behind it is in shit quality. "fuck_doujinshi" refers to doujinshi comics being sold on fakku's paywall called "store" which has no DRM and the quality is a bit better than "fuck_sub". "fuck" refers to fakku and it's probably for anything that's not "fuck_sub" and not a doujinshi comic on "fuck_doujinshi".
"fakku unlimited" is a scam. it doesn't give you unlimited access to everything on fakku. it's mostly translations of chapters from magazines.
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I got LANraragi working on my pc and it's pretty good, I like the viewer a lot, however is there no "official" way to fully integrate it into sadpanda?
I half-wrote a userscript that adds a button on sadpanda galleries that autodownloads and opens on LANraragi but are there better ways?
I'd prefer to always open galleries through LANraragi viewer and only after reading do I decide if I wanna store it on my pc or delete it, because I read too much trash that I regret clicking on
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Nihon sararyman, watch and weep, as I download trillions of yen worth of anime, hentai and hentai games. And despair as the realization slowly sinks in that you can't do anything about it.
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>>8853100
this was changed in 2022 (the initial requirement was added in 2014)
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>>8853108
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Power
you can see where your power comes from here https://e-hentai.org/home.php
most of mine is from account age and hentaiverse
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>>8850455
FAKKU(fuckyou)神经病么,一个开源代码库都搞,代码里面又没有跟他有关系的代码
Even chinks are angry. Actually are they even allowed to get porn legally?
I know they are in sort of grey area and prefer piracy since one ran Batoto before Tencent can legally get the police to hunt the domain.
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How do I get a full api database of exhentai? I dont mind scraping but I don't get how database dumps are getting stuff that were removed or taken down for copyright.
The most recent on nyaa is from August 2025
Chaika.moe only gives you the most recent 10000, useful going forward but I don't know what to do about the past 8 months
Ideally I could get everything from chaika.moe but I don't know how. chatgpt said you'd need a login to get access to the full api endpoint
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>>8853509
if you have both the gallery id and token you can still make requests for stuff that was taken down via the api
you would have to be monitoring new galleries as they come out to get the token though
just get the old tokens from nyaa/archive.org
>Ideally I could get everything from chaika.moe but I don't know how. chatgpt said you'd need a login to get access to the full api endpoint
/api?gs
chaika is missing some non-english stuff if you care about that
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>>8849270
>"You don't like the thing that I like, so I will react to make fun of you without engaging with critical thinking skills!"
A bunch of people generating and uploading a kajillion images has consequences. Infinite growth is not sustainable, and efforts to gradually improve on storage space to keep up with regular levels of increasing demand for that space will fail as the site drowns in these rapidly-coalesced stacks of prompted content.
And it won't just be this site that has this problem; it'll be every site that lets people upload AI content to its servers for sharing. People have no restraint, so if their uploads aren't policed to at least some serious degree, they will run down the services that allow them to post their shit in the first place.
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>>8855414
I refuse to accept this. It was possible. Its still sort of possible. For example you can just add "/?advsearch=1&f_spt=10" to the main page (exhentai.org) and you'll filter by page (in this case - less than 10 pages). Plus you can tag by genre though tags (for example adding "other:"western imageset$" " ). Though its unreliable. But i 100% remember it was possible to filter by genres in favorites too. And to filter by pages SHOULD be possible as well. IT SHOULD WORK. SOMEHOW. I KNOW IT WAS WORKING BEFORE.
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>open gallery
>"support the artist on fakku!"
>incest, lolicon
>search artist name on fakku
>0 results
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I want Exhentai to die so all the point farmers (Chinks and Koreans who scrape content from other sites and the retards who sucked Tendon's dick for a staff position) get btfo'd.
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>>8857479
>thinks Tendon censors only the UK
It's your retarded government. Other "censorship" on e-hentai exists mainly to protect the sites from even more copyright claims and general unnecessary attention, part of the reason the site has existed for longer than you lived, retard.
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>>8857528
Lo and behold, the shill defending censorship is a Redditor.
>It's your retarded government
What's my government and where is your proof that a government is telling Tendon to censor random galleries? Oh you don't have any because you're a shill? Got it.
Also, that screenshot was taken when you were a 9 year old.
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>tendon makes random galleries unavailable to most IP addresses to reduce copyright takedown requests and general unnecessary attention
meanwhile in reality fakku has raped the site with probably more than 100000 censorship demands, mainstream media has reported the site, and tendon cries like a bitch when google and theporndude delists the site, lol!
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I wonder why the shill calls everyone a "schizo redditor" and wants you to "gatekeep" a site that goes out of its way to be known by everyone because it can't survive without ad revenue.
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>resident schizo
>accusing anyone of having a tantrum and being a schizo
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>>8849270
You are an actual knuckle dragging retard
>what is bandwidth
>hurr durr infinite server storage!!
>hurrr overloading this domain with tens of thousands of worthless AI generated images won't affect the host at all, nor does AI have any effect on server equipment/RAM prices! Hurrr pfthuuurrrr
>deal with it "lil bro" sybau no cahh frfr
You're one of the favela monkey niggers the other anon was referring to, gooning to slightly-varied AI generated images of the same prompt over and over again. This shit matters to everyone who isn't a Brazilian stim addict with puss-filled sores all over their cock.
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man, i've been using sadpanda since i was 13 years old (im 26 now) this shit is so damn sad to witness
on the other hand isn't like exhentai has excited since the beginning of time, so i hope that eventually another site like it raises from the ashes like a phoenix, preferably in my lifetime of course
there's nothing we can do about it unfortunately. nowadays normalfaggots use the 'image set' category for their ai sloppa, so filtering off 'misc' doesn't help anymore
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>>8857130
mind control hypnosis content now banned and being removed btw, the tamer just got more tame
perma vanilla and thats what youll get
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>>8860609
fucking shit, hypnosis worst than furry?
lel
Puritans only want consensual sex, even in hentai, it's crazy.
I still wonder why only hypnosis has been so heavily censored when there are worse tags than that.
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>>8849261
Catbox's sudden death because of AI once again proves OP's points to be correct. >>>/g/108600538
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