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Anal in the ass Edition
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>LOCAL UI
forge neo (ANIMA SUPPORT): https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classic/tree/neo
reForge: https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge | Stable commit: 6964ceb
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/Co mfyUI_examples
>NOOBAI-XL
https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl
https://huggingface.co/Laxhar
>NOOBAI SHITMIXES
102d custom: https://civitai.com/models/1201815?modelVersionId=1491533
291h: https://civitai.com/models/1301670/291h
>RESOURCES
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Easy booru tag export userscript: https://github.com/Takenoko3333/Danbooru-Tags-Sort-Exporter
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_ tag | https://tagexplorer.github.io/#/
Inpaint: https://files.catbox.moe/fbzsxb.jpg| https://huggingface.co/Wenaka/NoobA I_XL_Inpainting_ControlNet_Full
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet (OLD) | https://civitai.com/models/136070 (look at the green links in the description)
>TRAINING
Guide: https://rentry.org/yahbgtr (WIP)
Anon's scripts: https://mega.nz/folder/VxYFhAYb#FQZn8iz_SxWV3x1BBaJGbw
Trainers: https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_s s | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrain er
>NEWS
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hggop/edit | https://files.catbox.moe/om5a99.png
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I am trying to proompt for a breast burger where the breasts are in burger buns much like burger patties but I can't quite get it
I've tried
>two burger buns are placed above and below each of the girl's breasts
>there is a burger bun placed on top of the girl's breast and below it
>there are burger buns on top and below the girl's breasts with lettuce and cheese inbetween. ketchup is dripping down her breasts too. making up a breast burger
there is a tag for it on danbooru, but it only has 40 images so I thought maybe I could do it with NL
>>8852952
>Due to compute constraint, we selected only single model to compare against - not yet released latest version of Chenkin model, which currently is the most trained SDXL-based anime model.
I guess because they somehow believe it's the new benchmark, maybe? Or Chenkin is so shit it makes their model look good
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>>8852945
>more trying to cram the ABSOLUTE GARBAGE flux VAE onto sdxl
what's the point. why waste more money or compute on this shit.
we already know it doesn't actually help or fix anything. Even nai, as incompetent as they are, figured out that the flux VAE is trash and isn't worth using.
it's even more stupid because they're """converting""" the model to the new VAE. Which is fucking stupid because you want to be training the model from start to finish on the same VAE for it to actually work properly.
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>>8852959
flux1 vae maybe had issues (still WAY better than what sdxl uses because its less compressed) but flux2 vae is quite good, you should try running an encode/decode on an image and it will destroy any other vae
but i agree its a waste of time because even if it was successful its still sdxl with clip
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I gave up on the burgers
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A list of less common but hot/cute traps/otoko no ko's characters from danbooru that Anima and Noob/Chenkin/Mugen recognizes:
kirino ranmaru
inuyama tamaki
kazemaru ichirouta
mashiro meme
yamato takeru (fate)
rose (ohayousan 084)
envy elika (koyashaka) <-- personal fav
gokotai <-- also imo very cute
uzuki kou
houjou tokiyuki (nige jouzu no wakagimi)
mithrun
komazawa noi
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>>8852991
>houjou tokiyuki (nige jouzu no wakagimi)
>kazemaru ichirouta
>mithrun
I say this and genned these for hgg back before it went to shit. They are perfectly fine on noob models as well. On anima, Captain Nemo from fate works really well. Never tried it back on noob.
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>>8853011
I'm trying to figure out how to avoid exactly that
The ghosting still isn't great though
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Very impressed with Anima overall, it knows a lot of styles (over 25 I've tried so far) and has very good adherence. Feels like a complete replacement for most models. If I'm not careful I'll spend all day genning.
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>>8853107
>Glad you enjoy it as is, because Anima is impossible to finetune or train new stuff on without overwriting its baked concepts
dont agree
>Also nice gen, but everyone I see praising Anima is posting gens that could easily just be made with SDXL anyway.
based
>Your comment CivitAI tier for me.
ultra based
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AI really fucking struggles with male abs. Specially if they are mildly obscured, or covered by something. You get the same issue with half opened clothes, or if there is something over them. It's so bad that I think that a lora is needed, but there is so little to properly train one.
Setting denoise to really, really low helps mitigate it when upscaling, but it still has issues understanding male musculature. And I have tried several models and shitmixes.
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>>8853107
>but everyone I see praising Anima is posting gens that could easily just be made with SDXL anyway.
True but what makes anima appealing is the NL prompting, there is no way in hell you can get this on SDXL with just mere prompt
I am not doing anything that I couldn't do on SDXL already but the way of doing it it's refreshing and way more enjoyable
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>>8853125
On that I agree. Not having to use regional prompting, and Anima being smart enough to know who and what I want, and where, makes it quite versatile. I could be even better with controlnet, but we will have to wait for the proper model to be out.
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Good morning sars ヽ(^o^)丿
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>>8853241
While true, the exact length of that pause isn't consistent so I would, potentially, be throwing away frames with actual motion if I just set it and forget it. It's just constant babysitting no matter how you go about it. Easier to just accept it and deal with it.
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>>8853245
I just find all this push for ntr to be nothing more than a forced meme. It's so completely alien to how the average man thinks. Hell, I would even call it against nature itself.
But then again, I see a bunch of the people who like(?) this thing to also be autogynephiles, so "against nature" is to be expected, I guess.
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Sars, why is the pussy upside-down? ( ° ͜ʖ °)
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Let's gooooooooo
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>>8853295
She is of perfectly legal age in 1797.
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>>8853362
>1girl, indoors, solo focus, blush, standing, from side, no humans, sweat, bent over, 5.25inch, 1boy, mosaic censoring, long hair, solo, still life, english text, simple background, tears, motion lines, shadow, through wall, 2boys, multiple boys, realistic, white background, looking at viewer, kabeana, pubic hair, doggystyle, male pubic hair, close-up, photo (object), double penetration, spitroast, kabehame, traditional media, veins, irrumatio, brick wall, picture frame, grey background, short hair, against wall, artist name, deepthroat, hair between eyes, dark skin, reflection, profile, photorealistic, dark-skinned male, empty eyes, pov, shiny skin, blue eyes, border, 1other, ribbon, x-ray, holding, ambiguous gender, sign, fingernails, sidelocks, teeth, black hair, camera, out of frame, pov hands, bar censor, hand focus, brown eyes, half-closed eyes, bow, tearing up, red eyes, white border, female pubic hair, jitome, male focus, door, blurry, brown hair, cross-section, faceless, nose blush, glory wall, faceless male, box, uterus, light, medium hair, scenery, film grain, closed mouth, screen, hair ornament, bald, parted lips, leaning forward, phone, copyright name, jewelry, very long hair, hair bow, earrings, crying, purple eyes, text focus, hair ribbon, black pubic hair, white hair, logo, muted color, blonde hair, hat, suspension
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>>8853374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ
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Slender is too little and emaciated is too much (and very often yields horror and actual half-rotten corpses or skeletons). Is there a middle point to show that someone has not been fed properly for a fairly long time?
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>>8853425
"bouncing breasts, asymmetrical breasts," actually.
>>8853430
that doesn't look anything like asurauser. though it doesn't look anything like the artist it's actually supposed to be, either. not that it matters since it was mostly to check to see how well the face expresses anyway.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/44308076
fair warning to anyone who even thinks about considering training on this artist:
they saved shit at jpg 10 quality and then also ran adversarial noise on top of it for their more recent stuff, ON TOP OF also overlaying a signature on the art itself.
which is to say, you're gonna have to really work for that dataset.
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>>8853442
Right click on images until finished or you go mad.
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>>8853445
You can also translate (without using LLM) porn. I have been using the points I earned from 8 years ago until now. Don't think I have run out yet.
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>>8853442
https://github.com/dazedcat19/FMD2
have fun configuring it tho because I'm not going to walk you through that shit.
<https://files.catbox.moe/ax2csd.png>
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>>8853439
Eh. Easy to fix because it's such a simple style.
Selective Gaussian blur, radius-20, max_delta 0.02. This relies on the contrast between linework and colored areas.
Not sure about the watermark, LamaCleaner could probably handle it or just inpaint the area with noob/anima. Bucketfill is almost enough except wouldn't fix the linework being brighter in places there the white watermark crosses over.
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>>8853484
never said it was impossible, just that you'd have to work for it.
though they are actually mostly uploaded to *booru under dr_yamaro. didn't test them much but on vpred1.0 they're as fried out as you'd expect. Might work a little better on anima? it's a mystery.
either way this type of style really doesn't train well on SDXL even under the best of circumstances. Flat styles with high contrast color palettes just fry really badly most of the time, probably for VAE related reasons among other things.
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I havent done any training since probably the original NAI leak and wanna reeducate on it to work with Anima.
Are there any decent writeups, any tools i should be using to prep images/captions, recommended settings.
Anything would be helpful
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>>8853549
A few threads ago several toml were posted. Use the very specific trainer, and remember to train very, very slowly.
And by slowly I mean fucking slow.
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>>8853549
I'm using taggui with wd-eva02-large-tagger-v3 to tagg images
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>>8852991
>A list of less common but hot/cute traps/otoko no ko's characters from danbooru that Anima and Noob/Chenkin/Mugen recognizes
I am back.
Here is a x/y grid of less commonly known danbooru artists that draw hot/cute traps/otoko no kos.
I have only tested on Anima preview 2 for now. Take a look:
https://files.catbox.moe/a5i8vb.jpg
If you don't want to take a look, and/or want the artists in copy-paste ready text format, they are here listed below:
@c3 piyo | @zuwai kani | @tokumei wombat
@oxygen \(0220\) | @haotmeal | @zunkome
@sana \(37pisana\) | @nemunemu \(candy paddle\)
@sunaba \(nczd5875\) | @konery \(reasonyou\)
@instanttnoodle | @delta 9 | @jeffr | @azulasi
@montanyaoh | @azuma shino | @doppel \(bonnypir\)
@c take0141 | @min \(myna8247\)
@ayano naoto | @mobu 45 | @gin daikon
@turisasu | @w \(1999 kyu\) | @pepero \(prprlo\)
@yinzinmiemie | @morino bambi | @peshita
There are also 3 other artists, albeit slighty more /aco/ aligned, if you feel like using them in a mix since they also draw hot/cute traps/otoko no kos:
https://files.catbox.moe/tftv48.jpg
And in copy-paste ready text format:
@frogzone art | @combos & doodles | @toxxy
I apologize for any messy formatting - I didn't want my reply to be too many lines and have it be regarded as spam.
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where are the birthday girl gens
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Is \/hdg\/... dead?
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>>8853621
What's the appropriate head size for an ugly teenager like Tomoko?
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>>8853643
Certainly, I did and even posted it before. With enough proompting and trial and error, there wasn't a position I couldn't get at least acceptable vidgens out of.
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>>8853313
anon what model was this if you could share the details/workflow? I'm trying to figure out Img2Img so I can do edits before feeding into WAN for video but at the moment I can't figure out a good model/workflow for it that doesn't distort everything. Your gen looks really nice and in the style i'd be using.
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>>8853729
their avatar is an off-cropped, either photo or "realism model" generated child squatting with a leg up, with the crotch just conveniently off canvas. and they have a pizza slice emoji in their name(I would've provided an account ID but I reported the account and they're deleted now). They're absolutely either a honeypot or just plainly malware distribution but it doesn't matter because that shit is still lame and gay and bad.
either way it sucks that they're abusing the elephant stickers in this manner.
elephant stickers did nothing wrong and don't deserve it.
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I never post porn on pixiv. Somehow I still get people bookmarking my shit.
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>>8853784
It brightens my day. A tiny source of happiness for me.
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Is anyone aware of what causes thick outlines with loras in Illustrious and its shitmixes? I know it is not my training data, since it just doesn't have any. I know I must be doing something wrong.
>>8853805
Sounds almost as bad as Gunnm, which had an amazing first run in the 90s. Then it became Mars Namek. Last I heard there was some bullshit about vampires. I cannot fathom being able to care for a series for that long.
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I've been trying to mock up a parody dvd cover, can anyone who can actually read japanese proof-read my text and tell me if any of it makes no sense? I used a combo of Google translate and DeepL so it is likely janky
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>>8853829
Oh nevermind. I just found a couple people using the term. What do you know.
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Nnnnnyes nursing handjobs (+ lactation).
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>>8853712
I used this lora
https://civitai.com/models/2385217/jahy-the-great-jahy-will-not-be-def eated
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>>8853995
I know lots of anons look down on us wildcard genners, but just like any other form of gambling it is really addicting to write up the perfect wildcard combination, queue up 500 gens, sleep and then wake up to the 500 gen gacha. Some of my favorite gens was dreamed up by the 20 random number generators hitting exactly the right spot in the latent space.
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>>8854074
I know it kept away a few undesirables, but it also split thread activity two ways. Or three, or four as we kept getting duplicate threads too. Activity and (you)s feed into themselves to keep generals alive.
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>>8854070
https://civitai.com/models/2451676/taimanin-asagi-ova-style
just this with these tags
taimaninova, anime screenshot, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality
I havn't tried any other characters yet so I dont know how well it will work across the board
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yeah I went through a bunch and found that to be the best despite some flaws
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I am royally confused by training speeds. If training on 1e-4 or 5e-5, should learning steps be kept around 2000 and 5000? More? When to use each speed?
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>>8854189
There is no real answer because everything involving (current) AI is random and it depends on what you are trying to train, what optimizer, what batch size, and all the other checkboxes and settings. One thing I can say though is that 2000 steps is almost always overkill.
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>>8854204
here's one, they all more or less follow the same prompts
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>>8854223
Thx again senpai, stuff came out great on my end too
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Feels weird coming back to illustrious for a bit after noob and anima. It's so easy to get spoiled on the good stuff.
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Good morning sars ヽ(^o^)丿
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>>NOOBAI SHITMIXES
>102d custom: https://civitai.com/models/1201815?modelVersionId=1491533
>291h: https://civitai.com/models/1301670/291h
is there STILL nothing new? it's fucking over
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>>8853872
While I get what you mean, I also don't want Kaedeko touching Kanna either. He is, after all, a cuckshit artist. He either draws Kanna, or he makes ntr. That being the case, I would prefer if he stays away from his own creation. As odd as it may sound.
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>>8854427
Gening online and for some reason images are not coming out with metadata because their new infraestructure or some dumb shit and are working on a fix.
But I am using the exact same settings, and two loras, only difference is that I used Illustrious 15 instead of 16, didn't hi-res and touched up the prompt a bit.
[spoiler]taimaninova, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, simple dark background, BREAK
very wide-shot, dutch angle, (from above:1.3), (face focus:1.4), foreshortening, feet out of frame, (close-up:1.4),
1girl, solo, alex_totally_spies, short hair, bob cut, black hair, brown eyes, pink lips, (dark-skinned female:1.5), medium breasts, breasts squeezed together, arms up, armpits, nipples, navel, nude, sex, vaginal, sitting, (looking at viewer:1.5), narrowed eyes, seductive grin, cumdrip, cum string, cum on face, cum on hair, BREAK
1boy, veiny penis, (grabbing another's legs:1.3), deepskin, BREAK,[/spoiler]
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>>8854427
And one last question, mind showing some meta of this pic?
My tries with Sam are kinda meh, so would appreciate it
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>Hi everyone, I’ve got some good news and some not-so-good news to share.
>Good news: I’ve figured out how to fix the jagged (aliasing) issue in the images generated by the Anima model.
>Bad news: The fix will be included in the next version of Anima, not the current one. I’d prefer to save my resources and focus on improving the upcoming release.
>The issue isn’t related to the training data, so no worries there it mostly comes from some suboptimal settings on my side
Animayume bros... they'll use this to persecute us..
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first episode of ame-chan's chinese cartoon was okay
only real worry is that ame-chan might be playing heavy back seat to the dumb OC cast, which kind of defeats the point. though maybe that's also the point, as a meta social commentary that people lose interest/lash out if the character they want to see isn't what actually gets presented.
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i dont get it
https://civitai.com/models/1823089?modelVersionId=2712329
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>>8854805
>RTX
Run
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from the main cumrag folder (the one with the python_embeded follder and the .bat files you use to run it)
>Hunyuan
Couldn't get it to work on the standard portable version with Python 3.13 (same with virtually all TTS/voicegen nodes from the TTS Audio Suite), worked like a charm on the cu126 portable version (which has Python 3.12).
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>>8854832
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>>8854798
>only real worry is that ame-chan might be playing heavy back seat to the dumb OC cast
yeah, the premise kind of aligns with the theme of the game, but I don't really want to see the other group(s) going schizo while trying to be or top Kangel, I am expecting some kino zetsubou scenes at some point tho
https://files.catbox.moe/gg00ve.jpg
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>>8854842
>that amount of engagement for that follower count is really, really low.
tbf they make zero effort to engage or cultivate an 'audience' and instead spam coombait gens that the grok algo feeds to hungry chuds
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>>8854881
Well, I am going to assume that you have a more or less modern graphics card on which case you should download and use this
>https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
It's the more "stable" out of the other options and is great to learn how to prompt since it's pretty straight forward to use
Next you are going to need a model, there is many pros and cons about them but just download this one, it can do almost everything you would probably want to do at the moment
>https://civitai.com/models/1201815/nai-xl-vpred10-2d-accelerated?mode lVersionId=1491533
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>>8854881
bro is recommending you outdated shit use
https://github.com/cruelpleasure/sd-webui-forge-NEO
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
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Forgot to thank you, so thanks for sharing Taimanin anon, you a homie
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>>8855105
i mean the lines u blind retardo
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>>8855119
just the normal amount i think. i think it's technically possible on 8gb? and also there's that google vram breakthrough which hopefully people are working on implementing which will make a lot of things easier.
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Just for that one style from a few posts above. The Taimanin OVA looks quite awful without nostalgia goggles. Especially screencaps from it, it's all blurry and washed out. This seems lie it managed a usable style first by not training the lora too accurately and then by smearing WAI's bias all over it.
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>>8855341
>danbooru tag interrogator
>nlp interrogator
>throw in anima with no formatting
god i love this model
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>>8855078
Sit down, Mr. Anon. We have much to discuss.
You know why you're here. Your postings of your little Mayano Top Gun images in catboxes.
These catboxes - You think they're clever, don't you? A workaround. A way to share without consequence.
Now, the content itself of these. A character who's clearly underage, placed in scenarios with a male quite older than her. Same character. Same themes. Over and over. Clearly compulsion.
Tell me - and I want you to be honest Mr. Anon, because lying to me wastes both our time - when you create these images, when you post them eagerly waiting for someone to look at them... what do you feel? Is it arousal?
No. It's far deeper than that, isn't it? It's a moment of *existence*. Someone saw you, acknowledged you. For a brief moment, you were real to another human being.
Because that's what you've lost, hasn't it? The ability to be real to anyone. To be seen. To be wanted.
And so you substitute - you create images of purity being destroyed because that's how you see yourself. You WERE innocent once. You DID hope for normal things - relationships, connection, perhaps even love.
Then, something happened. Maybe rejection, humiliation - or the slow accumulation of failures until you convinced yourself it was by your own *choice* rather than defeat.
Anime can't reject you. AI you control completely. The scenarios you create are destroying the innocent part of yourself repeatedly. The part that once believed you deserved to be wanted.
I know what happens next, Mr Anon: You'll go back to your habits. Tell yourself that it's "just drawings," "just AI."
But you'll remember our talk. And it'll poison the ritual, because now someone sees what you're really doing. Not the images. Those are irrelevant.
And before I forget - Mayano is a *horse* girl, isn't she?
Even in fantasy, you can't desire something that's truly human. Think about what that means.
Guards. Escort Mr. Anon out of my office.
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>nlp interrogator
As in you give it a pic and it just writes it out for you? Link me if so. I love the NLP of Anima but I'm too autistic to just ask it for "peepee in vagene" and wind up with full screenplays.
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>>8855366
big titties = kosher
>>8855384
nlp was incorrect. i meant i used a captioning model that used natural language and threw that into the prompt with the rest of the booru tags
>>8855390
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>>8855401
same way you'd tag for noob or illustrious. just add @artist and set keeptokens to 1. no need for natural language captions but i haven't experimented with them at all
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>>8855409
https://mega.nz/folder/ctl1FYoK#BYlpywutnH4psbEcxsbLLg
i've been training a bunch of fast ones since they're going to be irrelevant the moment a new preview drops
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>>8855452
I was talking about the image. I have the extension to view metadata, but when opening it with png info in neo forge it can't be found. I don't have that extension, and i'm saving it with the blue download button too
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>upscaling on anima
if you switch that from upscale 1.5 to upscale 2, does it shit itself for you too? its like the model is incapable of upscaling beyond a certain pixel count
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yes. preview 1 would shit itself upscaling to 1.5 even, so 2 is an improvement. if you want to upscale images to a higher resolution using the current anima previews available you need to use a tiled upscale method atm
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>i don't have stealth metadata so that image has none
Do we have an actual victim of pancho's prompt harvesting scheme? For those who don't know, pancho stealth enabled some kind of metadata embedding setting in reforge before abandoning it. Perhaps it carried over to neo forge. Your images all contain metadata, I can see them with the script
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>>8855462
oh i guess it's enabled by default in reforge neo, neat. i'm not some faggot trying to hide my prompt as if its some hard worked masterpiece so i wouldn't say victim is the right word. if it screwed over anyone unwilling to share that shit, good
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>>8855474
he's not wrong. i dislike using cumrag but automating stuff like ultimate sd upscale and applying post processing is where it shines
>>8855485
it was promised to you 3000 years ago
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Everything seems to want its own special version of it with deprecated assets and shit.
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3.11 just works for me
stuff started complaining about 3.10 being too old so i tried 3.14 but nothing supports it, so then i tried 3.11 and have had no problems. it works fine genning in comfyui/forge, training in easyscripts, and running autotaggers.
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>>8855650
But what about fat silicone bolt-ons
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>>8855543
box? nice.
>>8855557
i'm sure, i just haven't seen a reason to yet
>>8855568
i will at some point
>>8855573
>Only if Link is used in the dataset.
i originally had link and the zelda stuff in the dataset but took him out because i didn't like the style bleed. i plan on making a separate fugtrup lora for his zelda stuff
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Regional worked on Comfy from the start, though only in latent mode. My guess is the forge implementation was written in a needlessly limited fashion, the tech should in theory work on any imagegen model with no adjustment needed.
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>i plan on making a separate fugtrup lora for his zelda stuff
Good call. Never had much luck with general fug loras as opposed to character/ip precise ones back on illi/noob at least. Close but something always slightly off.
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>anima controlnet doko?
Yes.
>anima regional prompter doko?
nigga 1 in the upper left of the image
nigga 2 on the right side of the image
nigga 3 mainly off screen on the bottom of the image
Already works, Arjun.
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I've seen people complain that it starts leaking features between characters once your prompt gets too long. Haven't seen it myself, but if that happens you can probably just split the image into regions and give them all the same prompt except for those few problematic things.
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>>8856015
It's just https://civitai.com/models/1823089?modelVersionId=2712329
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does anyone else get choice paralysis?
like you know, you feel like you want to play some video games but you've got so many to choose from that you end up playing none of them
but like for cooming
AI has given us the opportunity to goon our brains out to literally anything and that gives me choice paralysis and I just end up not cooming at all
I suppose AI has made me picky
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>literally anything
...unless you want two lora characters interacting naturally
...in a complex scene
...with an accurate detailed background
...framed and angles in a way too specific to describe
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>two lora characters interacting naturally in a complex scene
Not pruning any tags when you bake is a cheat that makes this easy.
Otherwise it's still doable, as long as you can get their rough bodyshape right without loras. Gen some anonymous 2girls, then use that pic as both a controlnet reference and a mask for regional lora scheduling. Works even with stuff like "hand around shoulder" that's not visibly connected to the main body.
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Oh okay. Thought you were talking about something like design doll which technically takes care of odd angles without firing up blender as it's a bit more lightweight / made specifically for that.
Never used tools from inside imagegen UI itself.
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Vibe transfer is trash and produces garbage, their real claim to fame is character reference, it's the thing I miss the most on Anima.
>inb4 just bake a lora
I miss it BECASUE I don't have to waste hours baking shit and can just throw a single image and have accepable results.
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I hope he's got a high paying job somewhere since he actually put in work instead of the usual AI grifting.
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random lora that i assumed wouldnt do anything good
>>8856215
i was testing to see if it did anything but lightly enhance backgrounds
not really though, maybe slightly better shading sometimes
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>check this new animu model everyone is simping for
>2 billion parameters
>Recommended positive prefix: "masterpiece, best quality, score_7, "
>Recommended negative: "worst quality, low quality, score_1, score_2, score_3, artist name"
>mfw it's literally Pony v6v2
Can it at least generate cats in space suits standing on the moon and holding signs?
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>>8856461
Good one! But no, I'm talking about uncensored genitals, sex positions, better size control and so on. Still not worth poisoning the anime aesthetics if the model is being baked by a retard (like every local model) but you can say the same about the deviantart dataset.
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>>8856471
yeah same on both counts
i keep doing tests on tricky prompts that preview 2 could barely handle and preview 3 does worse in almost all of them. but at least the style is more stable and the fine details are better
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>preview 3 can kind of do wakamezake
neat. no idea if pv2 could do it or not since I skipped that but pv1 could only very vaguely attempt it and it did it really badly.
hands still seem kind of fucked tho and upscaling without controlnet tile is a shitshow so still probably not really worth trying to wrangle outside of producing super specific compositions.
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Even better than before, which probably means I've been burning them. Didn't feel like fine-tuning the settings too much as long as it was just a preview, but if they're also gonna work on later ones it might be worth a try.
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Makes me wonder if he lurks here because that's almost word for word what I said about the artifacts.
Still weird that SD1.5 didn't need high res training and could upscale as high as you wanted. As long as you gave it enough guidance to not mess up anatomy, either through keeping denoise low or using controlnet.
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>Recommended positive prefix: "masterpiece, best quality, score_7, "
>Recommended negative: "worst quality, low quality, score_1, score_2, score_3, artist name"
>When using a tag that is different between Danbooru and Gelbooru, prefer the Gelbooru version.
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>"I haven't tested it much, but it doesn't seem to capture the art style as well as Preview 2. In fact, I often feel like it doesn’t get the style at all."
>Go to their profile, see this is what they like to gen: https://civitai.com/images/126626716
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>Expanded dataset to help learn less common artists (roughly 50-100 post count)
>The weird habits/shortcuts of your semi-randomly selected artist become more prominent.
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which speaking of, shortlist of random artist comparisons since I ran them anyway, may as well post
digitan(oc donut character with heavy baked in style bias) bench
v3: <https://files.catbox.moe/9rofal.png>
v2: <https://files.catbox.moe/bg7196.png>
v3: <https://files.catbox.moe/9fo5gl.png>
v2: <https://files.catbox.moe/p9x1dl.png>
full neutral oc donut bench
v3 <https://files.catbox.moe/qyhsq2.png>
v2 <https://files.catbox.moe/x3nvit.png>
v3 <https://files.catbox.moe/uu518h.png>
v2 <https://files.catbox.moe/prkbio.png>
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>farting on prey
kek this will never stop being funny
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>Danbooru and Gelbooru, prefer the Gelbooru version
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i certainly wouldn't say that preview 2 is "better". the 1024x training is just too important
but complicated NL prompts are part of the appeal of the model for me so it's unfortunate that preview 3 seems worse at them
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not really sure there's enough in that sample to really try and gauge differences in composition, and I only just downloaded v2 specifically to make these comparisons so I can't really speak to experience with other prompts.
something that can be stated though is that, at least with the digitan, v3 has significantly better character details. v3 gets the hair a lot more "correct" - with almost always remembering to give her the light ahoge tuft.
also a random thing of note is that each v3 grid is a larger filesize than the v2 grid, which mostly just means that v3 has more diverse noise patterning(which implies more detail) than v2 has.
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https://files.catbox.moe/edq3tt.png
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>yeah preview 3 is definitely worse at NL than preview 2
https://files.catbox.moe/g1zxf2.png
can you post examples? i haven't really experienced that much of a difference for prompts, granted this one is a pretty bad prompt
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unironically this. i've baked a few anima loras to cope with the shitty tag mixing and this is how I do it. pick a style lora and then an try out different artist tags on top. no more than 2 artist tags at once.
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>>8856635
here is your UK POV saar
https://files.catbox.moe/wz40a3.png
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>>8856541
A small suggestion: I think this model should get a new name, because "Anima" is really too generic and hard to promote... Even just searching for this model is already quite difficult. Maybe we could consider organizing a community event to crowdsource name ideas.
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>>8856697
>said they should fix the anti aliasing issue with the next release
Is this about the upscaling artifacts, or a new issue that yume itself introduced? Asking because it was not really aliasing in the first place but some kind of cross-hatch pattern artifact. Never seen it before with imagegen or any other tech.
The weirdest part is it seems to be limited to img2img. I can raw gen a 1600x1600 pic (2.56Mpix) with no issue, but upscaling that high from a 1024 square breaks it apart. Which tells me it's probably not related to training resolution.
Test of >>8856507 at higher base res. Same behavior when not using loras.
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>cross-hatch pattern artifact.
This is common on the realistic (ew) side of things, already. When trying to generated at resolutions larger than what it was trained on, you'd get cross hatching or somthing akin to scanlines.
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>anima seems to have fucked priorities with breast size
>"small breasts" end up being too large and generally overflows to "medium breasts" territory
>"flat chest" is actually as described, completely flat
>there isn't really a way to get an in between unless you're using a character that has that specific size of breasts
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https://files.catbox.moe/1znz25.png
bonus removed my artist neg and sketch and it's all muddy looking lmao https://files.catbox.moe/yvsj57.png
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>>8856820
hero neisan looks so shit and weird in anima, idk if is my prompt
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inpaint on anima is still not as good as I would like it to be but is getting there I guess
perhaps I just need to tweak a little my settings
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I didn't really try it much in earlier versions but it definitely takes multiple rolls to get it to actually output the correct text.
originally I was trying to have just a single speech bubble with "You like ice cream, dont'cha?" and it would keep garbling it a bit and the most common error was printing "dont'ha" instead. And when I switched to as it ended up, only 2/4 were correct
<https://files.catbox.moe/ju1atn.png>
granted this stuff is stupidly easy to fix manually so it doesn't really matter, I just wouldn't expect it to be super accurate gen by gen.
(also if you can't tell, the neck is too far to the right in EVERY SINGLE GEN - anima I'm guessing this is an artifact of it just not getting enough full res training because the biggest issue I've been noticing is that it constantly fucks up anatomy in weird "minor" ways, also with making arms super long)
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>>8856949
Retard. It's local, you can do literally anything. You can train controlnet yourself. If you are poor and retarded, you can do a workflow with anima refiner where you use noob for early steps for composition and then proceed with anima. See? Only your imagination is the limit when a model is Local and free.
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hot catbox?
>>8856947
>I didn't really try it much in earlier versions but it definitely takes multiple rolls to get it to actually output the correct text.
yeah it's not always perfect and obviously struggles harder the more complex text you give it to write
>also if you can't tell, the neck is too far to the right in EVERY SINGLE GEN
this is caused by your artist (lora)
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people will keep genning anima and be happy while you cry and shit up the board "ironically shitposting" because nobody wants to download your shitty civitai jeet slop merge
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rude. also factually untrue.
though it's very possible it's also an issue with bakaschizo's lora, but that's only in relation to the neck thing. I've noticed a lot of anatomy anomaly shit(specifically and especially the long as fuck arm syndrome) while using the model by itself without loras at all. Might be partially artist related but it's not an actual trait of the artist, making it ultimately a model issue.
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>>8856947
https://files.catbox.moe/p7xbk9.png
i don't do gacha so i can't comment on the character accuracy but as far as the style it seems like the artist tag is really weak combined with the character tags impacting the style? i do use different params from you so by default it was less flat.
but what this anon said is also correct
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Instead of reusing the full character tags over and over, maybe you can try just using a part of the characters name to specify clothing assignments and so on after the initial character tag usage. This has worked for me, but idk how it will work with all those cosplay tags.
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How do I artist mix on this model made for third worlders (people who can't afford more than 6 GB VRAM)?
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i ported this spectrum speed enhancer to forge using AI
https://github.com/AdamNizol/ComfyUI-Anima-Enhancer/
it has like a detail adder or something but i just wanted the speed
just put it in your forge neo extensions folder
is not virus
https://files.catbox.moe/62wkhj.zip
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Okay the TE is pretty cool but why is every seed a completely different style???
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Forge Neo? Does it have a working MoD implementation for Anima?
Maybe MoD is outdated and there are better techniques?
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>>8857158
civitai as a whole was a mistake and has caused irreparable damage. it doesn't help with every general getting more schizo and people leaving and not maintaining any resources that it's harder for a newcomer to get up to date info
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>>8857147
CFG++ samplers with proper CFG value this time (1.5)
both catbox and litterbox are fucked so, here it is
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Hmmmmmm neat I'll check it out thanks. Does forge version differ from comfy btw? I remember it was supposed to use less VRAM (you are upscaling one slice at a time?) but for me the comfy version always used full VRAM, just like normal upscaling.
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Find a year tag or date tag you want (or multiple) and weigh them up, than the style should be stable - (year 2025:2) or maybe (newest:2.5) on top of that. Anima handles prompt weighting at high values really well.
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Yeah thanks it werks. Looks a bit better after upscaling, almost makes Anima usable, though I still need to find a non-shit style...
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Ewwww, way too bottom heavy. This model needs more training until all fat is eradicated from it.
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https://litter.catbox.moe/pvqtbkdvyygfnztt.png
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>>8857282
My anima gens are almost always getting cropped at the neck or top of head even when I crank (cowboy shot) or (full body), is there something that I'm missing to direct the composition more consistently?
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I think that's just how the TE works. On SD(XL) changing the emphasis of say huge_breasts would give you a clear size progression from 0.7 to 1.3. Here it works more binary, either they're huge or they're not. The weight just determines whether it's enough to reach that breakpoint.
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Actually I'm that guy, here's the error on forge-neo. As you'd expect, the image comes out exactly the same.
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I asked for a HK MP5... Animus has failed.
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i tried this myself and it seems like specific gun models were not prioritized (not trained on at all?). the generic submachine gun tag kinda works, though. gun pointed at viewer is overwhelmingly associated with handguns.
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Specific but limited to a few well-known ones, same goes for cars btw. It can tell the difference between an M9 and an M1911. Also nice that guns don't leak into GFL characters like on noob.
Last pic was supposed to be Famas. Clearly knows that it's got that angular top, but not enough to get the whole thing right.
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i had success with combining two artists combinations, best results at 1 weight. compared to pv2, if you run a batch of them instead of it randomly schizoing out on styles every few images it was much more consistent. the actual combinations don't work how you'd expect from SDXL but that's kinda irrelevant
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what was all that drama and posts about the "real" thread back then then? kek, I remember the many times turbo autists refused to use or post anything until iaschizo baked the thread or posted the "highlights"
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It's part of /edg/ thread culture. They've had a dedicated baker almost since the start, and a slow enough thread that people wouldn't mind waiting half a day for a new bake. Which is not true anymore. Our emigrants did a lot for their style base and technical knowledge, but also made the place less comfy.
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>normal
>(ye-pop deviantart:-1.0), at start
>at end
>also with real life, photo \(medium\), at start
>at end
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>kek, I remember the many times turbo autists refused to use or post anything until iaschizo baked the thread or posted the "highlights"
collective retardation?
That was more shitposter collective feigning activity. Threads made by other people would still get people posting in it, but then highlightschizo would just make a duplicate and shitposters thought it was funny and wanted to continue to perpetuating low quality threads so they'd start spamming highlightschizos thread to make it seem like that was the "chosen" thread.
when a thread is made up of only 10-40% actual contribution and 60+% shitposting it's pretty easy for shitposting to just co-opt the entire thing if only a small portion of the 10-40% actually understand what's happening(which is also how that number continues to shrink with each iteration as people get fed up and stop contributing).
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They have a self-signed certificate, meaning someone could decrypt and steal whatever information you exchange with the site. Seeing as that information is just the image you're uploading, it shouldn't be a real concern.
Though for whatever reason the site occasionally decides to run in strict https mode, which prevents connections with a self-signed cert. Effectively forcing client browsers to refuse the connection to itself.
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spoiler: it won't because 2bn params is just too little to have coherent details and anatomy. Once again, local bakers refuse to learn from the SOTA model and just try to reinvent the wheel, and fail. At this point it's almost a law of data science.
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>-xformers --flash --sage --cuda-malloc --cuda-stream --fast-fp16
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>Enabled for VAE (always tiled) in Never OOM Integrated (doesn't speed things up but frees up VRAM for Hires. fix)
Zero quality difference. Spectrum Integrated speeds things up even further but that one does affect the output. It's generally close enough that I'd consider using it if I was desperate, but 14 seconds is basically SDXL speed already.
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Spectrum:
https://litter.catbox.moe/pk24i5gwj2m2i66y.png
No Spectrum:
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3080 12 GB. I don't think the VRAM is enough to handle Hires. fix on anima at 1.5 times though, the first one on a fresh launch is usually fine and is done in around 50 seconds but every subsequent one has a chance to slow down massively, to like 2-3 minutes. Which is weird because I'm not sure higher res is even supposed to take more VRAM. MultiDiffusion Integrated at Mixture of Diffusers (set the tile width and height to the input dimensions, change the actual img2img dimensions to the target res) works fine, it was my go-to solution on preview and preview2 since it didn't have any artifacts and has no seams like tiled upscaling but it seems I'm sticking with it for performance reasons.
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Yeah, it's bizarre. I'm not even sure it's that since it really shouldn't be happening, maybe the upscaler doesn't get unloaded until after the whole gen? Cause when I change it from an ESRGAN one to Lanczos or Nearest the slowdown never ever happens.
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Install this
>https://gist.github.com/catboxanon/ca46eb79ce55e3216aecab49d5c7a3fb
Then you will be able to right-click the download symbol next to the image name and a little window will be created displaying the metadata of the image
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It layers a strong style bias on top of everything you do. This weakens or eliminates the most interesting differences between artists, making them all look very similar. Especially bad when it comes to shading and stylized anatomy. Making any style or mix look better is relatively easy after the fact, but getting back this kind of variety is impossible without undoing what was done to the checkpoint.
It is also primarily based on illustrious with only small parts of noob eps, meaning its Danbooru knowledge is overall much weaker than v-pred, with the exception of FOTM that the WAI guy focused his dataset on. (He claims and seems to be actually finetuning now, not just slapping merges together). It also has minimal e621 knowledge, just those traces of noob he included.
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They are Harada Takehito, Hakika and Tamiya Akito. Top row is WAI v15, bottom row is Anima v3.
You not recognizing that top and bottom are the same artist highlights what I was trying to show, thanks for that.
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it was throwing a python version error for me.
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it was a really weird thing. Pretty much exact same vibes as the BLACKED shit but replace with a shitty setup girls hopping on a plane and coming back visibly knocked up with a sombrero involved somewhere or something idk.
It was really fucking weird and kind of hilarious in its own way. But this was like a decade or so ago and I think the more 'famous' ones involved k-on girls? and I think a lot of them were also really shitty almost mspaint tier edits.
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https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/294916
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1354382
The point was being true to the artists, not looking better. As I said, looks are the easiest thing to fix. But if your early 2000s hentai starts off looking like yesterday's AI slop there's nothing you can do to fix it.
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>Pretty much exact same vibes as the BLACKED shit but replace with a shitty setup girls hopping on a plane and coming back visibly knocked up with a sombrero involved somewhere or something idk.
Holy shit I laughed so hard chat, my fucking sides, why are people so obsessed with the sombrero? no, no, you know what? don't answer me let's just ignore all of this
Here, something cute and funny
>https://files.catbox.moe/dctqlo.png
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if it helps I'm pretty sure I also remember some maracas or something.
this was some really weird old ancient schizoposting though. It's been fucking ages and I didn't save any of it for obvious reasons. Really wish I could remember more about it to properly refind it though.
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And honestly? I would say Mugen is already catching up to ANIMA pretty fast, and it is doing that without needing all those silly little quality tags as a crutch.
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lowres
<https://files.catbox.moe/fvh76b.png>
(I took it to photoshop and just paint bucketed the background to white before dropping to i2i)
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it's not super complicated.
if it's about the style specifically I'm just using my own style with bakaschizo's lora to stabilize things a bit for composition and some linework influence and then prompt shifting to ootorii bisetsu for most of the aesthetic. i2i has a sped up prompt shift since, again, ootorii bisetsu is intended to mostly carry the aesthetic and using the original ratio would throw too much of my own style into the mix.
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random (/d/) stuff i genned: https://litter.catbox.moe/ke7jr7z9wh9jwgdr.jpg
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>>8857890
Not until it includes anime screenshots in the dataset (never, only possible with infinite money).
NAI does characters that have 20 images on boorus and they look exactly like in the anime they are from. Impossible for local.
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It's certainly better at complex compositions like FFM, stuff that took upwards of a hundred tries of NAI take a couple dozen at most on Anima. The thing that hurts to miss the most is character reference but that's arguably outside the scope of the model itself.
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>>8857932
If it can't get the eyes of a character with 7k images (preview number #333 with 50 years of baking behind btw), I probably shouldn't expect it to get clothing articles correct for pretty much any character any time soon. A JOKE!
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>>8857951
Yeah I'm sure going to describe every single thing in detail like "red target-shaped pupils"
Good luck doing that for every tiny little detail character has because AmAzINg nL cApABiLiTIeS are so nice we don't need any more character knowledge baked in.
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>>8857956
Here's my NAI prompt for Power. Have fun with your preview #789.
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>>8857954
shes right it does give makima eyes...
least im subbed to NAI !
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>>8857974
this but unironically
>>8857975
is the forgetting in the room with us right now?
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>>8857984
Because some things you can't specify in prompt. Maybe it's the specific way the character's face is drawn, maybe it's the pattern on clothes that's just a bit more complex than "horizontal white stripes and yellow stripes alternating".
If your shit model doesn't have any character knowledge and you rely on writing novels, it's not just more work, it's more work for worse results.
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>>8857988
and here your retarded ass is bitching about something that's only happening because you CAN specify it in prompt.
it's a dropout/training issue, probably also because there's such a large dataset for the character in question(making it a lot easier to divorce specific tags from being inherent to a character). The pupils end up not being considered an inherent trait and the TE for the model really likes specificity. The fact that it's super easily correctable means it's a non-issue.
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copied tags from this image: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/10999112?q
anima gen image: https://litter.catbox.moe/u13fwg6edyj8ka23.png
notice how its missing her innate trait of having colored arms and legs
no such tag exists to specify it
currently the character has about 1k hits on booru
anima has a serious problem
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>>8858006
and yet there are a lot of images of her on *booru tagged with thighhighs and elbow gloves. how strange!
either way here's the same prompt/seed/resolution as your example but with "blue legs, blue arms" tacked on like >>8858009
https://files.catbox.moe/w79hae.png
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>>8858019
nai has this problem but with artists :^)
(probably intentionally to make you pay up for vibe transfers like a good little conSOOOOOMER)
also when is controlnet dropping for v3 that was promised like 3 years ago wasn't it
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heres my nais gen hope you guys like it :)
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It doesn't seem that realistic to me, but if you don't like it that's fair. It should have a bit of scifi/fantasy, but I barely know it. I'm not touching another Mihoyo game no matter how much I like one of the characters.
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You said fantasy, scifi, or somewhere in between. I'd call that non-realistic. By saying that ZZZ probably isn't even really realistic I gave the thought that it should have elements you'd seek. But like I said, I don't know it well enough.
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AI says: In summary: This commit enables the shift / timestep-shift parameter for the Anima and Mugen/XL model architectures. Shift controls the noise schedule shifting during sampling — it's a key parameter for flow-matching models. For Anima, it defaults to 3.0 and is always shown. For XL/Mugen, it defaults to 9.0 but the UI slider is hidden by default behind a new setting, since most XL users probably don't need to tweak it.
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>>8858173
You think power would like sucking dicks, though? I don't think she was into that kinda shit.
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yeah i guess getting the hands consistent might be tricky. what i normally do now in these situations is use an llm to try to refine/add to the prompt to achieve the desired result. works surprisingly well with anima
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>Anima on ComfyUI: 2.19 it/s
>Anima on NeoForge: 2.77 it/s
why is neoforge way faster? i'm not even using the speed stuff. if I do it goes up to 6.4 it/s
which of this speedslop has a negative impact on outputs? i enabled them all and it doesn't seem to error:
>--xformers --flash --sage --cuda-malloc --cuda-stream --fast-fp16
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But seriously now, WHO decided on a 2B Unet and 600M TE??? VRAMlets already have SDXL.
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no amount of parameters is enough for proper segmentation of characters, a customer architecture like novelai's is needed. but localsissies don't want to admit that because that would mean admitting they have no developers capable of developing such a thing
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Worth what? It's like 20 mins of not being able to use the GPU, and no actual effort involved. I trained a bunch of weird shit just because I could.
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i think it's promising. it's probably gonna be a lot better than what we have now once the whole ecosystem migrates (we need at least krita support and controlnets imo). hands still look bad a lot of the time also
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https://github.com/RealLangdonAlger/A1111-Vision-Prompt-Ext
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Yes it just runs the attached image(s) through an LLM and populates the prompt; it doesn't produce embeddings for the unet. But the result is very similar, and it's the best I can do until we get a proper IP-Adapter module. It's also fun to play with.
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Yeah, I realized what you meant soon after posting.
You can still reduce the dim size, that gets you some more speed and reduces vram requirement. I remember an anon making dim4 styles back on illu, it still captured the overall contours of the style well. Just not smaller details like a unique way of drawing nipples, or eye pupils, etc.
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well whatever I guess it would be shit on catbox anyway since it wouldn't loop properly there.
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Don't work as in they give bad results, or just straight up fail?
I'm using my v-pred config, but at quarter LR and Unet only. https://litter.catbox.moe/ir9t1rpe6opyao2y.toml
>might as well upload to catbox this time, not have it expire when it's just a few kilobytes
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i've been using the same settings for a while seems fine (concept) https://litter.catbox.moe/9iwrouwnam2kcrkt.toml
you usually don't need this high steps and dim, adjust as needed. if you're doing anything except a style i would highly suggest doing block weights on the down blocks
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https://litter.catbox.moe/kvf2wolp5owp7ush.toml
This config works fine for me. Batch size 4, 300 - 700 training steps depending on the dataset.
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The anatomy looks fucked up, but it still looks better than without lora (I think).
https://litter.catbox.moe/j0rj055l048wafe9.safetensors
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Which anime model is most used on 4chan threads right now Anima, SDXL or NAI?
Vote!
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this one is doing fine (at the moment)
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As a model gets better in representing an artist style, it will treat the tag more like a lora dataset
Have you ever seen a good lora made with images of widely varying qualities and styles? Cause that's most artists, they have natural variations in each work unless you select them manually
I still wonder if there's a way to cause selective tag bleeding somehow. Like if you use @artist, anything following the @ will work like this >>8858419, so you actually get artist mixing and consistent styles without ruining everything else
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That's not it. Or not the whole "it" at least. The TE is much better at separating tags without bleeding over, and artist mixing was a side-effect of that bleed. The same way prompting "pencil_skirt" would make the girl hold a pencil, prompting "asanagi" could add aspects of his style to an image that was otherwise a 3D render.
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