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Why did some italians go to the wrong america?
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SOUTHERN ITALIANS MIGRATED TO ANGLOAMERICA, BECAUSE, AS A WHOLE, SOUTHERN ITALIANS ARE GUILLIBLE MORONS, AND THEY BOUGHT THE «AMERICAN [UNITEDSTATIAN] DREAM» PROPAGANDA, IN CONUNCTION WITH THE FACT THAT SOUTHERN ITALIANS ARE ANGLOPHILIC, AS A REACTION OF THEIR RESENTMENT TOWARD SPAIN AND EVERYTHING HISPANIC.
NORTHERN ITALIANS MIGRATED TO IBEROAMERICA BECAUSE THEY SAW THE SORDID REALITY OF LIVING IN ANGLOAMERICA, AND REALIZED THAT TRUE FREEDOM IS FOUND IN CATHOLIC CIVILIZATION, NOT IN PROTESTANT TYRANIES.
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This is a little more complex than what you'll usually hear, but it's the truth. It's because Brazilian coffee plantations fooled a lot of Italians to come to Southern Brazil, basically tricking them into signing their lives away to work almost as slave labor. They advertised heavily in Veneto because it was a rice farming region, so people there knew how to farm rice as the process is very similar to farming coffee. It was also impoverished at that time. As the US grew in industrial power and word got back about what a shithole Brazil was and how they were working Italians like slaves there, successive waves of Italian immigrants preferred to go to the US and Argentina, the latter of which was actually a rich and prosperous nation at that time, and not the dump it is today.
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>>18425317
Because land was cheap and wages were higher in the Americas as whole than back in Italy. Many Italian immigrants were more like seasonal workers who migrated to Brazil and Argentina to save up money and return wealthier to Italy, while many others remained after growing roots there.
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>>18425346
But for real though why are you so embarrassed and ashamed of being a mestizo with mostly Amerindian ancestry?
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>>18425317
They were told Americans loved Italians because of Columbus and Amerigo Vespucci
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>>18427953
He's right. The Internet was invented by the US Department of Defense. There were literally American Universities sending email to eachother back in the 70s before your country even had electricity and municipal plumbing
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>>18427953
Americans invented the Internet. This isn't debatable. What you might be thinking of is the World Wide Web developed at CERN, but that's just a piece of software that runs on the internet. Like >>18427961 said, people were already sending emails to eachother and using primitive chat rooms decades before this.
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>>18427857
And that's not even that bad, honestly. It could've been worse.
a grand-grand-uncle of mine died from a grenade in WW1 at very young age. Nobody we know remembers anything of him, the only thing standing is a small cross in Piezo we found, close to Pordenone, and a letter with my grand-father with his name.
Even with it's richness, Europe at the time was a hotbed for death. Even with it's poverty, south America doesn't have industrial scale massacre, still doesn't have it today, while Europe seems to be slipping back to that exact reality.
I'm not romanticizing my country or anything, but it made sense, and Italian-americans were poor too for a long time, nothing guaranteed anything, as those that went to Argentina could tell you.
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The majority of brits can tell you half their bloodline died in some far off war. I can boast that some very far-flung relative dying with a grenade is significant enough to warrant a comment. "Hahah, but Brazil has crime." Incomparable, even if we do suffer from it.
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>AI image
It's not even a good AI image. Are those ships supposed to be sitting nearly dry on a slipway? Why is the left ship so narrow at the bottom without visible propeller blades? What's up with the docking bridge on the right ship? Why are the cowl vents on the left ship oriented away from the direction that most wind is going to come from? Why do they have small cranes at the rear, but clearly no room on those decks for cargo hatches?
F for effort.
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>>18425324
>TRUE FREEDOM IS FOUND IN CATHOLIC CIVILIZATION
to be a catholic is to be a servant of the jew
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>>18427857
>that's depressing, imagine traveling half way around the world, leaving your extended family behind just to trade one form of peonage for another
That's actually pretty common in the history of labor migration, from debt bondage in the 13 colonies to pajeets in the emirates today.
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Peron's family came from Sardinia but had spanish origins.
This is not up for debate, he was explicitely proud of his origins (likely because it allowed him to appeal to the two biggest groups in the country).
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