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Islamophobes talk about "muh apostasy," but the thing is, it's not about killing random ex-Muslims. It's about those who don't just leave Islam, but also make slander and lies about Islam and gather others to attack the Muslim community. It's essentially like how countries have harsh laws against treason. If you leave Islam but keep it to yourself rather than flaunting about how your beliefs are "better," nobody cares. Only if they are a dangerous threat to the community, which, by then, is practically self-defense.
Not to mention, it cannot be done by random Muslim vigilantes. Only professional judges and leaders are qualified to carry this out, and even then, it's a rigorous process that gives traitors many chances to repent. It doesn't make sense to just straight-up deny someone the chance to be forgiven by God. Islam is very harsh regarding murder: if you kill one man, you will be treated as if you killed all mankind.
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Say Islam isntsead of muslum. I dont like harsh rools. But I understand Islam wants peace form and for the world. Allah Akhbar
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>>18430112
> a system that hasn't changed for 1400 years because it's perfect enough as it is?
t. a “refugee” in a western country
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>>18430233
Actually I do. I tend to bring it up more in the context of why I think it's insane that any non-muslim would convert to Islam. Considering religious converts often lose interest and convert again to the next shiny new thing they see. But because Islam is a religion of barbarians they will kill you for leaving their pedo cult.
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>>18430043
I know you think that makes it sound reasonable, but no, its still barbaric.
Ex-Christians do the same thing all the time in Christian countries and they not only don't get killed, they and their attacks are protected by law. I can spew the worse blasphemies imaginable against Christians right in front of their churches and they can't do anything to be but argue back. That is the standard civilized people are held to.
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>>18430043
>It's about those who don't just leave Islam, but also make slander and lies about Islam and gather others to attack the Muslim community. It's essentially like how countries have harsh laws against treason
No, it's not, because even publicly becoming another religion without hating or disrespecting Islam in any way still gets the death penalty in Shariah.
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>>18430112
Imagine unironically calling a system "perfect" while your entire population is currently risking their lives on rubber dinghies to escape the shitholes that system created. If 1400 years of stasis produced such a masterpiece then why are you typing this from a basement in London or Malmo instead of a thriving caliphate? You are literally fleeing the results of your own "perfection" to live in the "inherently flawed" designer societies of the West. It is the ultimate admission that your ideology is a civilizational dead end. You claim to have the eternal truth but you can't even maintain a basic power grid without help from the people you think are beneath you. Cope harder with your treason analogies while you collect your welfare check from the "flawed" unbelievers. You aren't a warrior for the faith, you are just a refugee from a failed experiment.
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>>18430395
>Ferghane Azihari vs Razika Adnani
You know they blame the West for interrupting their beautiful Islamic utopia Caliphate right? The Islamist are not the problem it's their islamoleftist apologetics who don't wear Hijab or Thawb and turban but Western clothing and practice Taqiya that are the problem. Pic rel is a french Atheist ex Muslim whose family fled the Comores debating an Algerian feminist moderate Muslim who says the same lie the Left says about Islam which is the religion isn't the problem it's the people who corrupt it or they will say Islam and Muslims aren't the problem it's the "Islamists" she literally believes the Quran is uncreated and infallible and islam is being corrupted by the "conservative" Muslims. If their moderate believe this what do you really think their conservative believe. Europe is done.
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>>18430084
>Islam wants peace form and for the world
Ah, yes, the famously peaceful Muslims - who waited a whole 5 seconds after Mohmmed (piss be upon him) died before they started slaughtering each other over retarded bullshit. Seriously, the split between Sunni and Shia wasn't over some deeply important theological or religious dispute. It was literally just "I'm in charge now!" vs "Nuh uh! Mom said I'm in charge now!", leading to the deaths of untold millions of Muslims being killed by Muslims for not Muslimming correctly.
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>>18431962
>That while he was with a delegation from Quraish to Muawiya, the latter heard the news that `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Al-`As said that there would be a king from the tribe of Qahtan. On that Muawiya became angry, got up and then praised Allah as He deserved, and said, "Now then, I have heard that some men amongst you narrate things which are neither in the Holy Book, nor have been told by Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). Those men are the ignorant amongst you. Beware of such hopes as make the people go astray, for I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying, 'Authority of ruling will remain with Quraish, and whoever bears hostility to them, Allah will destroy him as long as they abide by the laws of the religion.' " Sahih al-Bukhari 3500
There's literally a SAHIH hadith telling them Quraish lineage descendants should rule the Caliphate as long as they are guided and guess what KEK they assassinated them they killed the guided Caliphs or Rashidun and since then been fighting over the booty and loot you can't make this shit up.
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>>18432050
>There's literally a SAHIH hadith
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>>18432057
>The Mahdi is mentioned in several compilations of hadith, but absent from the Quran and the two most-revered Sunni hadith collections (Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim).
That's not the Black flag of the dancing boy jihadists from the Khorasan.
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>>18432063
The Mahdi is coming just need 2 more weeks and Trump is done. Allahu Akbar.
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>>18430360
>they and their attacks are protected by law
A lot of european countries actually do have laws against insulting religions. In the netherlands you could get in trouble for calling jesus a dead kike on a stick, or mohamed the pedophile prophet, or saying oy vey remember the 6 billion.
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>>18432095
Kek no Indian-Euro pink skin can call prophet Muhammad a pedo publically in any Western country let alone burn the Quran because they know Islamist chads will stab them like Theo van Gogh. They can mock their Kiko-Krist cults but not pislam.
>Muh Holocaust denial
The Holocaust isn't Yahweh, or Judaism or Moses you faggot
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>>18430043
>If you leave Islam but keep it to yourself
"You can leave Islam, only if you don't tell anyone you did" How progressive of them. Next you'll tell me how they actually how freedom of speech, but only if you don't let anyone hear you speak.