>>18432369
Germ removal

Germany never lost to Pooland. They curbstomped them every time they met. Germany lost to the entire rest of the world combined, after they already crushed Pooland.

For what the Germans did in WW2 they shouldn't even have a country at all, there were several proposals after WW2 to disband Germany as a country

Poland did nothing besides being an obidient cumdumpster for the Soviets, Ukrainian collaborators and Germans, you fucking retarded dumbfuck. The Polish border was moved westwards so you Polacks can be a human shield for the next western invasion into the Soviet Union.

>>18432375
They lost against the USSR alone, even before lend lease started pouring in

>>18432388
Read a fucking book instead of deriving your ,,knowledge" from GOI IV gameplay, fucking retard. I'd recommend ,,How the war was", it's written for simpletons like you.

>>18432388
And against a Red Army that had been gutted by the purges and that didn't even expect the invasion, imagine if they went against the pre-purge prepared Red Army, they wouldn't even got to Minsk

>>18432388
>slavic delusions

>>18432392
The vast majority of Red Army officers were merely imprisoned and then immediately released after the German invasion.
Ffs, did the board get replaced by illiterate shitskins or why does no one bother to read a book, fuck even a wikipedia anymore?

>>18432390
The performance of the Nazis in WW2 is very overrated, they took over small countries mostly, they fluked a quick victory with France and then when they went against a peer competitor and a completely unprepared USSR they started losing as soon as the Red Army got its bearings after the initial surprise attack. The nazis lost to the soviets despite wiping out 50% of the soviet airforce parked in the open to be bombed in just a few days, and they still lost! imagine if they went against a prepared Red Army

>>18432397
The Battle of Moscow was the turning point and it was won before lend-lease, my delusional naziboo

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>>18432369
germutts always get colonised and raped by Polish Chads

>>18432399
Nigga, read a fucking wikipedia article about WW2. Just one, fucking one, you think you can do at least this? Usually I'd say to go read a book or finish your education, but listening to you makes me realise that this is a lost cause anyway.

>>18432401
Slavic delusions, again. In a world where the third reich is not simultaneously committed to other fronts, and without lend-lease, the USSR falls before winter.

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>>18432399
Even France wasn't really a fluke, compared to Germany it was a very weak country (40m vs 80m) with less developed army, Germans didn't win in France because Manstein roll 6 on scouting and teleported 500 tanks into french rear, they win because they crushed French with overwhelming numbers
WWII is full of myths. Once you study it in more depth, however, you realise that it was a very predictable war. The Germans were winning as long as they were battling inferior forces, but as soon as they lost their advantage, they started losing

>>18432407
There was no lend-lease when germshits started losing to the USSR, when lend lease started pouring in the fate of the war had already been sealed. Not only that but they lost to a country that 1) was unprepared for an attack 2) left his airforce to be bombed out in the open, 50% of their airforce was wiped out in a few days

Germshits couldn't have hoped for a more incompetent/unprepared Red Army and they still managed to lose

>>18432412
Completely ignoring the fact Germany was significantly committed elsewhere. In a 1v1 the commies don’t stand a chance.
Lend-lease to the USSR unofficially started in June btw

>>18432411
>less developed army
France's army was more developed, you fucking retard, Germany had to catch up in 5 years after their entire military was essentially diamantled to a small police force after WW1. German tanks barely were even able to engange with French tanks due to the large discrenpancy in firepower and armor and most of the Wehrmacht was severly underequipped.
Not to forget that Germany only held an insignificant numerical superiority and a slight inferiority if we count all the Allies of France (around 200.000 less Axis than Allies). Most of the German Army didn't even engange with the French as most fighting was done by the small spearhead (see most bsttles where the Allies outnumbered them).
Germany also had less tanks (3119 compared to over 4000 French tanks) and artillery (7378 compared to 13.000).
Fuck off from whatever shithole site you came from.

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>>18432416
>France's army was more developed
nope, they were less developed, especially in aiforce, and lack the industrial base and population reserve, resulting in them having a far smaller military potential and worse ablity to replace loses
>Germany had to catch up in 5 years
also not true, german rearmament (1934-1935) started 2 years before French once (1936-1937)
>German tanks barely were even able to engange with French tanks due to the large discrenpancy in firepower and armor
which doesn't matter, because in blitzkrieg, german tanks weren't supposed to battle other tanks, real life is not an RTS
>an insignificant numerical superiority
they had all units under central command with helped a lot, French army alone was far weaker than germans. After Dunkirk, French were outnumbered almost 3 to 1 for the rest of the campaing
>Most of the German Army didn't even engange with the French as most fighting was done by the small spearhead
Wrong again, the core of blitzkrieg are the infantry divisions that move in to eliminate enemy after tanks encricled them, without them, you end up with 1000 tanks deep inside the enemy territory with no fuel, ammo and vulnerable flanks

for a such die hard nazi larper, your knowledge about real nazis is pretty limited

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>>18432388
this

>>18432419
>nope, they were less developed, especially in aiforce, and lack the industrial base and population reserve, resulting in them having a far smaller military potential and worse ablity to replace loses
The loses didn't matter because France got defeated anyway before the War could evolve into a war of attrition. And small military potential? The French Army was better equipped and more mechanized than the German military, you fucking retard. Germany had a slight edge in the air force, yes, but they were also in the offensive which gave them a disadvantage against the French counterpart.
>also not true, german rearmament (1934-1935) started 2 years before French once (1936-1937)
The Germans had to rebuilt from basically nothing.
>which doesn't matter, because in blitzkrieg, german tanks weren't supposed to battle other tanks, real life is not an RTS
German armor still had to engange with allied counterparts and other sorts of at-defense which they were very vulnerable against.
>they had all units under central command with helped a lot
And the French were not? Arguably one of the most important factors was that the Germans were in fact less centralised than the French which allowed greater initiative amongst the German forces.
>After Dunkirk, French were outnumbered almost 3 to 1 for the rest of the campaing
Yes, you retarded buffon. Because at this point the French were already almost defeated, hence why they surrendered 22 days later.
>Wrong again, the core of blitzkrieg are the infantry divisions that move in to eliminate enemy after tanks encricled them
Motorized Infantry divisions, which were a minority in the German army. The vast majority was still horsedrawn.
>for a such die hard nazi larper
I'm not a nazi, they'd have considered me a subhuman. You are just retarded.

>>18432407
Germany had already been defeated before lend lease

>>18432444
>The loses didn't matter
They did matter, because French army couldn't easily replaced forces and equipment they lost in Belgium, they lack manpower and industrial base, both wich were inferior to Germany and proves my point about how big the power gap as between France and Germany
>The Germans had to rebuilt from basically nothing.
Wrong again, Germany was conducting secret rearnaments pretty much since 1921, not to menton that 100k officially allowed soldiers weren't that much smaller than other countrie's peace time armies
>And the French were not?
No, the french did not have british, belgium and dutch divisions under their command
>Because at this point the French were already almost defeated
I wonder why?
Did Hitler used some Aryan pagan spell to win the impossible war? Or maybe German army was just much stronger, comming from a bigger country with a much bigger population and industry?
>The vast majority was still horsedrawn.
That was my point? Panzer divisions encricle the enemy and then the horsedrawn infantry divisions eliminate them
>I'm not a nazi, they'd have considered me a subhuman.
It's 2026 bozo, no matter how brown you are, you can still be a white supermacist if you want

>>18432444
>German armor still had to engange with allied counterparts
doesn't matter, because german tanks were much faster and less prone to breaking down, which was exactly what blizkrieg needed
>b-but bigger is better
are you a kid?

>>18432388
Is that why they conquered Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Moldova, Soviet Poland, and 90% of “European” Russia in three months?

>>18432407
Unfortunately it's not your drug addled world and you are in reality, and in reality the Germanic subhumans are going extinct, so the rest of Whites can take a deep breath of relief and think about getting rid of kikes without your dogshit petty nationalism.

>>18432390
You sound mad and gay. Germany lost hard, no need to read some german propaganda books.

>>18432399
The Soviets were absolutely crushed.
>>18432401
Nope. Lend lease began arriving in the summer of 1941 from Britain. A majority of Soviet tanks at Moscow were lend lease. The actual battle of Moscow was won because German 50mm canons couldn’t pen the British Matilda tanks frontally.
>muh KVs and T34s
EVERY Soviet heavy tank division was currently encircled in the Baltic districts.
The number of Soviet made tanks at Moscow was double digit. The British tanks triple digit.
>>18432411
>France
>weak
France had twice the aircraft, twice the armor, more artillery pieces, and a standing army roughly the size of Germany’s.
The French admitted it was German training and coordination which defeated them.
FYI, the most lopsided German defeats were in France. You didn’t know that because you haven’t done even basic research. It wasn’t the Soviets who had a 2:1 3:1 KDR against the Germans. Wasn’t even the British or Americans, it was the French in 1940.

>>18432461
We all know that wars are won by painting over empty villages

>>18432419
>>18432444
Germany actually had a much weaker airforce
It was pilot skill, according to the French, that carried the war in the air.
France by all on-paper metrics should have stomped Germany.
I don’t know why shitlibs are in denial about this. The test of superiority is self evident.
Orcs vs Elves is Slavs vs Germans. Germans have a higher KDR by far and vastly higher HDIs because Germans are biologically superior to Slavichimps

>>18432453
>b-but bigger is better
Yes, you fucking retard. Why else do you think did tank armor continue to thicken? Obviously just making 80-t heavy and overly slow beast is a shitty decision, but tanks require protection and offensive capabilities. During Hanut German tanks were entirely reliant on Artillery and air support to deal with French tanks.
Also, why suddenly focus on tanks and maneuver warfare? I thought your point was Germany was only able to win because they overwhelmed their opponents with superior numbers? Sudden change of heart or are you just a contrarian faggot who is not interested in a serious discussion about WW2 and just wants to throw his shit everywhere?
>>18432466
I'm mad at you and you only for shitting up the board with low quality trash
The Book I was recommending you was written by an American and is highly regarded in most historian circles.

>>18432461
We all know that wars are won by painting over empty villages
>>18432469
>A majority of Soviet tanks at Moscow were lend lease.
Source? Afaik like 100 were old valentines and matildas dumped by brits

>>18432449
>couldn’t easily replace forces
Yes they could. Germany and France had no distinct bottleneck differences and France had a vastly greater resource potential than Germany.
>secret re-armaments
No, they were professionalizing their small army.
They still had less artillery, less armor, fewer airframes in 1940.
>bigger population and industry
What does this even mean? These aren’t magical factors. Britain industry and population mogged the united states and still lost two wars to them.
Population and industry would have had the USSR overrunning Finland in days. Instead Finland was able to bloody a “fully prepared” Red Army to where the Slavs feared even prosecuting a war on Finland in 1950.
Population and industry are irrelevant unless you get into multi year wars of attrition.
>Nazi used interchangeably with White supremacist
Dumb shitlib. Peak Dunning Krueger

>>18432461
They sucker punched a disorganized and unprepared Red Army that wasn't expecting it at all, as soon as they got up from the cowardly sucker punch the methodical destruction of the nazi army groups commenced

>>18432445
Lend Lease began in the summer of 1941.
The Soviets didn’t win the war until 1945.
>NO THEY WERE PREDESTINED TO WIN
Slavic mysticism. If the Germans were already defeated in 1941. Why even petition the Western powers for anything?
It would only make the USSR a dependent.
Which it was btw. Reason Soviets couldn’t first strike Western Europe was because they never became food independent of the U.S.

>>18432474
>Orcs vs Elves is Slavs vs Germans
Lol, this nigga thinks that ww2 was actually LoTR or something. Read a book retard lmao

>>18432484
Did Finland also sucker punch a disorganized Slavic mental patient during the winter war when the USSR failed to reach even Helsinki where they planned to install their puppet government?
Soviets can’t fight because Slavs can’t fight.
Nazi BVLLs are still mulching Slavs btw. They aren’t even dedicated National Socialists they do it for love of the game smashing through anti-Nazi Orcs.
Normal sane people love Hitler and absolutely hate leftism and Slavic apes.
>>18432490
>nigger can’t grasp comparative abstraction

>>18432369
See
>Wikipedia/ww2

>>18432369
They lost to the Soviet Union, though. Poland didn't exist for most of that war.
You could say the Germans were winning that struggle for most of the past millennium. Until the big Scythian horde ended drang nach osten for good.
>>18432388
Source?
That said, one shouldn't take away credit from the reds, they did accomplish some insanely impressive stuff.

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>Orcs vs Elves is Slavs vs Germans. Germans have a higher KDR by far and vastly higher HDIs because Germans are biologically superior to Slavichimps

The average German looks like pic related, you are by far the ugliest and most orc-like people in Europe

test

>>18432474
germans had higher kd because they had numerical superiority, it was literally an invasion of brown manlet germs into blonde tall Russian lands, they still lost even when backstabbing, this just shows germdog inferiority
>>18432489
lend lease was less than 1% of soviet war effort

>>18432464
crack fueled negro rant

>>18432500
Go back to xitter, subhuman.

>>18432500
ussr literally reached helsinki, finns begged for peace
are you retarded

>>18432545
>M.W.. Fodor wrote in The Nation in 1936, "No race has suffered so much from an inferiority complex as has the German. National Socialism was a kind of Coué method of converting the inferiority complex, at least temporarily, into a feeling of superiority.“ (1936)

>>18432545
>>18432586
This is also why they like to wewuzz so much, they feel shame at being ugly Germs and want to be somebody else so desperately

>>18432545
>>18432554
>slavic monkey screeching
Germany had a superior KDR despite a smaller population.
Smaller industrial base.
Vastly inferior weapons.
German tanks like the Panzer III were absolute shit compared to the Orc-craft T34.
German quality was in human quality. The Elven German BVLLs, few in number, but vastly superior in strength, intelligence, and HDI.
These Germanic Elves smashed through hordes of disease ridden Slav(e)Orcs.
The Slavs had superior tanks for their devious wretched minds could only surpass the naturally altruistic German mind in ways to inflict suffering on the human race.
Still German BVLLs stacked Slavic bodies to the Karmen line. Germans are just that good.
>Czechskja
Rightfully bowed before their German masters.
>Polskja
Defeated in record time.
>Orkraine
Thrown down by German warriors echoing the ancient Goths throwing down the asiatic huns.
>Bielpocca
Overrun, encircled, dismantled by superior Germanic organization and tactics
>POCCA
Had 13% of their population rolled into the army just to delay the Germanic Apocalypse then subsequently lost 90% of their army trying to reconquer 1/3 of their country, they never recovered, today POCCA is an AIDs infected shithole where Germanic literal BVLL sexpats live like kings while HIVans labor away as target practice to train Palantir kill bots on.

Defeat doesn’t even describe what The Elven Lords inflicted upon these Orc tribals.

>>18432607
germdogs lost, deal with it thirdoid lmao
Russians had germdogs at their mercy but they spared them because Russians arent animalistic orcs like germtroons

>>18432369
What is the point of these threads?

>>18432625
OP is a polack who is forced to scrub toilets in Germany for money

>>18432607
>the naturally altruistic German mind

Ahaha nice one. Germoids are penny pinching bastards who autistically send each other bills if they drink a glass of water at a friend's place.
There's a reason Germs were so unquestioningly efficient at genociding innocents, and that's because they are largely devoid of empathy and human feelings, and that stems from the fact that they hate themselves

>>18432369
What is the point of these threads?

>>18432607
I really don't understand the reasoning behind this behavior. Are you literally THIS mindraped by Slavs?

>>18432375
At the end of the day war ended with Polish flags in Berlin.
Zerg rushing only to lose independance for 50 years under multiple ocupations as a result of your strategy falling on its face is definition of loser shit

>>18432500
>comparative abstraction
This nigga thinks that using big words makes him smart lmao

>>18432625
some russian bot plus some bunkertrannies

>>18432407
The germans weren't commited to other fronts when they got beaten by the ussr. What are you a retard? Try to actually learn some history.

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Today I will remind them.

>>18432712
They had veteran divisions in Africa and The Balkans

>>18432666
>Polish flags in Berlin
Nope. The Polish state ceased to exist and the Polish government died in exile.
The flag of a German ideology flew in Berlin in 1945.
Slavs couldn’t even come up with their own ideology.
>>18432632
We get to have fun pooping on Slavs.
>>18432622
80% of Germans were under the rule of their racial kin in the West.

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Slavic Bolshevism will always prevail over germshit orcs

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>>18432369
>>18432372
>>18432378
Slavs aren't human. They're lower than animals.

>>18432378
No, you commie fuck. Those plans existed before the war and the Allies started the war to control Central Europe.


Watch jannshits ban me without banning OP.

>>18432914
>German Ideology
Now now Hans, don't be trying to appropriate Jewish achievements now. Marxism could only be the product of the most illustrious of rabbinical breeds. Das Kapital could only have been wrought from Adam Kadmon by the most emminent of Talmudic and Lurianic minds. And as we all know, Engels was Mizrachi.

>>18432369
God complex, they were delulu and thought they could beat anglos and slavs 1v2

>>18432475
>Yes, you fucking retard.
that's what hitler said when his advisors begged him to not relaese another 100 tone tiger that will not move past 5km, you are a walking meme
>>18432469
you are just making shit up, France was vastly inferior in numbers, that's why they assume a defensive stance in the first place

>>18432909
Lmao what, that was in ww1, we're talking about ww2 retard

>>18433244
>you are a walking meme
Big words from someone whose only retorts are 2019 r/historymemes.
>France was vastly inferior in numbers, that's why they assume a defensive stance in the first place
Germany employed 3 Million Soldiers. France has 2.240.000 soldiers while being far more mechanized than the German military, having the defensive advantage and a large advantage in artillery which is far more significant than random conscripts with rifles. But wait, France didn't fight alone. Belgium offered 650.000 soldiers, Britain 450.000 and the Netherlands 250.000. Which combined makes 3.590.000 soldiers, 590.000 more than Germany while on the defensive. Granted, Italy also had soldiers, but given how they only lost 6.000 soldiers and entered 12 days before France surrendered, it's safe to infer that their contribution was insignificant.
May I ask you what sources you cite from? Besides reddit? Because I have yet to hear anything of substance from you.

>>18432414
>In a 1v1 the commies don’t stand a chance.
>Hugh if it was only Germany, Italy,finland, Hungary,Romenia, all of occupied Europe vs the USSR in a Honorable 1v1 my deluded crack head would have won

>>18433329
>Germany employed 3 Million Soldiers. France has 2.240.000 soldiers
With still means that Germany had far more reserevs, which means that they could utilize a far more risky startegies to their advantage, so by remembering that French didn't have command over allied soldiers, with constant bickering over where to fight and the fact that they also spread their army over bordes with Switzerland, Italy and Spain, mean that in 1940 France, Germans almost always had numbers on their side
It's a very primite way to just look at the army numbers because as I said before, real life war is not like RTS, what matters are actual battles that were fought, and in those, Germans almost always had a big advantage in numbers

>>18432469
>France had twice the aircraft, twice the armor, more artillery pieces, and a standing army roughly the size of Germany’s.
>The French admitted it was German training and coordination which defeated them.
Source: your ass.

The French had numerical advantage in artillery pieces and shell stockpile. They were catching up with fighters(not even close but trajectory was there) but far behind in bomber numbers, tanks were about even, they had to perform much more thorough mobilisation(the Maginot line was staffed by privates in their 50's) and their entire strategy revolved around having to deal with that reality.

The French defeat can be, mostly, attributed to Germans having multiple lucky shots. For instance, in December 1939 a German plane carrying an officer with full invasion plans had to do emergency landing in Belgium and the plans were captured. Gamelin quickly had them and he decided, that the German staff will not want to change them anyway, which prompted him to move 3 motorised divisions away from the reserves relatively close to Sedan, to race to Breda and try to relink with the Dutch.
The German staff didn't want to change the plan. Hitler went back and forth with them for months and got his way. Gamelin judged the German staff well, but didn't predict Hitler.

>>18432372
>>18432923
You're subhuman brownoid

>>18432625
makes germgroids and their wehraboo spicoid indio fans from latin shitmerica seethe

>>18433724
look in the mirror you dumb germshit loving spic LMAO

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>>18432545
>most orc-like people in Europe
While they aren't European, the Tartars indeed live in Europe proper (Romania, Poland).

>>18433428
devil's advocate here but it seems like capturing the enemy's full invasion plans because an officer was forced into an emergency landing seems like the lucky shot here

>>18433808
Truthnuke, saar

>>18433829
It's more convoluted than this.
Had he not been captured and the French would have 3 of their first rate divisions able to reinforce Sedan.
Had Hitler not had his way(or had he been more or a civilian leader like a typical politician instead of a guy who liked to meddle into military planning) and Gamelin would be called a genius for predicting something that is hard to predict, that the enemy will stick to plans he already knows were discovered.

This is just the tip of the iceberg there. Fundamentally the French issues weren't really as systemic as people think, even at Sedan only one of the German bridgeheads wasn't beaten back. It's just that 2 divisions of infantry were dispersed, 2 reserve cavalry brigades providing scouting in the Ardennes have chosen to retreat south-east instead of north-west and like the motorised units at Breda, weren't able to be used as as hoc plug into the breach, Hutzinger decided to quit the town too early etc. etc.
Then alright the Germans get the breakthrough. Only because the plan was constructed by the people who would lead the panzer divisions through Ardennes, the command structure allowed them to be as aggressive as they wanted without caring about their superiors, so they just told the crews to load up on meth and raced through the France while being called to stop and wait for reinforcements from the HQ.
People like the story about arrogant old generals but the campaign succeeded because multiple stars aligned itself. Had the French managed to stall the Germans at Sedan or even Stonne and the war turns into a slugfest where the French get to use their artillery(which the Germans thought was far more intensive than anything in the previous war) and slowly at first the Germans would start losing in the air and once the allies got air superiority they would start going into the attack.

>>18433937
>Had the French managed to stall the Germans at Sedan or even Stonne
Easier said than done, Germans had massive advantages at their main attack routes
France was already doomed on 9 May, to be able to defend for months, they would have to get all Begians and Dutch soldiers to retreat to their country even before Germans attacked, get Britian to seriously commited to the defence of France (I'm talking like, bringing 1 million soldiers), somehow fix the total German air superiority and form a multilayered defense with a lot of strategic reserves that would have enough strenght to respond to and stop German breakthroughs, so pretty much impossible conditions because of politcial and organisational reasons.