>>18432918
Because Jews win and Arabs lose

Arabs are less united in terms of religion and language

>>18432918
Tribal society, it falls apart into feuding groups the second the central authority shows any sign of weakness.

>>18432918

They are artificial post-colonial states who inherited the tools, infrastructure, laws, and organisation of colonial administration.

>>18432918
Because unlike the Turks and Persians, there is no such thing as an actual "Arab". It's a collective of radically different Mena peoples whose only similarity is that their former imperial overlord used Arabic as its lingua franca and language of government. And much of this "Arabic" isn't even mutually intelligible between countries.

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>>18433136
>unlike the Turks and Persians, there is no such thing as an actual "Arab"

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>>18432918
Their most powerful states (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, etc.) are all Israeli allies and they're too focused on Islamic infighting to do anything together. Compare this to Iran which at least puts up some resistance to Israel and those who seek to liberalise Islam.

>>18433195
israel is temporarily based sayid the based sunni ummah will turn to overthrow the sh*a dogs soon saaaayyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddddd

>>18433136
But you are wrong the language is mutually intelligible, this is always being said but people who don’t even speak a word of arabic.

>>18432925
lmaoooo fpbp

>>18433112
"I against my brother; I and my brother against my cousin; I, my brother, and my cousin against the world"

>>18433195
>muslims aren't violent and genocidal enough against israel
Come on man...

>>18433283
They just aren't imagine if Hamas started assassinating their diplomats or knesset members?
They haven't blown up nearly enough schools or hospitals unlike the Israelis.

>>18433283
If we're viewing it from the Arab Muslim perspective, then yes. If they actually cared about their Palestinian brothers they'd band together for like two weeks and bomb the shit out of the tiny stretch of land bordering the sea before declaring victory over the Jews before going back to infighting like they always do.

>>18433758
Egypt used to lead these actions in the past but were forced to stop in exchange for having the sinai back. The Gulf states have their investments with the USA.
Turkey were called out as next on Israel's list as soon as they were confident Iran and it's proxies would croak. Now Iran isn't arab, but if they are still around maybe the two will work something out.

>>18433758
Didn't they try that in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War?
5 nations declared war on them all at once

>>18433934
Israel had a head start in terms of arms and military preparedness at the time, since then it's become increasingly apparent that they need foreign help or in fighting to see long term wins. They've taken losses against non state actors with the current invasion of Lebanon being the 8th or 9th time they've fought, with only three wins and two losses against a small non state actor Israel would not last against the same coalition today.

Turks and Persians are just as prone to infighting. Seljuk Turks infamously refused to help one another during the First Crusade which is why it was able to succeed to the extent it did. Had the Seljuks actually banded together they could have easily crushed the Crusaders.

And Persians have a long history of constantly destroying their own empires from within. Persian emperors historically have always feared rebellions more than they ever have invasions.

>>18433941
Yeah, but they had a massive intelligence disadvantage. The 5 arab nations that attacked Israel were more embedded into the community, while Israel was in an area but not of that area. Like the historical Crusader States, who held territory of the middle east but didn't try to integrate into the middle east. The crusader states were always on the intelligence and diplomatic backfoot at least locally.

>>18433956
Anyone else would say the complete opposite, Israel baited them into the sixth day war.

>>18433976
Could you lay out that perspective? The timeline of events the arab nations use to say that Israel was inviting their aggression in the 1948 war?
The UN Partition Plan, adopted as Resolution 181 on November 29, 1947, proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an international zone. The plan, aimed at ending British mandate rule, allocated ~55% of the land to the Jewish state and ~43% to the Palestinian Arab state. Jewish leaders accepted it, while Arab leaders rejected it.

>>18433941
You're comparing Israel fighting against guerilla insurgents to Israel fighting conventional armies. Israel's military is modeled after the US military, so it does very well in conventional combat. Hence why it utterly decimated the conventional military units sent against it. Like the US, though, it struggles against insurgents. Less than the US does, ultimately, because Israel is willing to use more indiscriminate force, if necessary, to strike at insurgents, which the US typically is not.

That's more because Israel actually has tangible gains to be made by aggressively prosecuting its wars. The US only really cares about propping up a friendly regime and then down-scaling their involvement in the region to a token presence. Israel doesn't have that option because it's not a foreign adventure on the other side of the globe to them, it's their next-door neighbors and they will be dealing with the aftermath of the war one way or another for many years. So they prosecute each war with the intention of setting up the next war in their favor. After decades of war against their neighbors, I think the default Israeli mindset is to assume that war with Arab states and Irani proxies is inevitable, and they simply plan their expansionism with that in mind. Israel's always careful to do its boldest land grabs in defensive wars, knowing that if they goad correctly, the temperamental Arab fanatics around them will eventually break whatever treaty is currently in place and they have pretext for whatever plans they were already making.

>>18433980
I'm not sure what I could add to the books on the topic, there is the wikipedia page relating to the preemptive attacks so it's clear Israel either knew something was about to happen or even started it by attacking Jordanian soldier's patrolling the west bank.
Israel also worked closely with the CIA through James Angleton, the same CIA had managed to destabilise Syria and coup Iran.
From the minister of defence Moshe Dayan
> I know how at least 80 percent of the clashes there started. In my opinion, more than 80 percent, but let’s talk about 80 percent. It went this way: We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn’t shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance farther, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that’s how it was… The kibbutzim there saw land that was good for agriculture. And you must remember, this was a time in which agricultural land was considered the most important and valuable thing… I can tell you with absolute confidence, the delegation that came to persuade Eshkol to take the heights was not thinking of these things. They were thinking about the heights’ land. Listen, I’m a farmer, too. After all, I’m from Nahalal, not from Tel Aviv, and I know about it. I saw them, and I spoke to them. They didn’t even try to hide their greed for that land.

>>18433982
Hezbollah fought like an army in the 2000's where they won, they have returned to their guerrilla tactics after the pager attacks and 2024 loss.

>>18433283
Muslims just fold like paper against Israel. That's why others would have to do it.

>>18434011
>Hezbollah fought like an army in the 2000's where they won
Which war was this? Hezbollah have never fought like a conventional army even at their absolute peak. They have always used guerilla tactics, rather than conventional ones. And they also never actually won a war. The best they've ever done was in 2006, when the IDF squandered all of its vast resources to achieve absolutely nothing against a much inferior force, but on the flip side, Hezbollah also achieved basically nothing beyond making Israel waste its time with a full mobilization. And for that, they got over 1000 Lebanese people killed, over a million Lebanese displaced, and had to deal with Israel permanently occupying a border town in southern Lebanon up to the present day.

Israel only comes off worse in that war because they had, up til then, a pretty prestigious military record and the IDF was seen as an elite fighting force. Even if Hezbollah didn't inflict any real damage on Israel in that war, the general analysis is that Israel under-performed by virtually everyone's expectations, even Hezbollah's. Which is probably why they were so emboldened after 2006. If they could get away virtually Scot free after a full mobilization and invasion of Lebanon, then they could do anything.

>>18434081
They held lines and fought in the open instead of covertly up until the 1990's or in the current conflict. I'm not sure how you can argue that they didn't win even if they didn't much from the conflict besides embarrassing their enemies.