>>18433763
You're right, that's why I converted to Judaism. If I fuck up, we all get persecuted and massacred.

>>18433766
Unironically a more virtuous life than Christianity.

>>18433768
The actual point of Christianity before Paul came in was for the gentiles to embrace Judaism, they just didn't have to be circumcised. James, Peter, John, and Paul were all there at a meeting in Jerusalem. This is recorded in the Acts of the Apostles, Chapter 15. The entire goal was to make the nations virtuous. Paul carried this letter to Antioch. So when he says in his letters that he taught people to eat meat polluted by idols he directly defied James, the brother of Jesus, and the rest of the pillars.
>“It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

>>18433763
Correct. Everyone does their business in the toilet, but the businesses are of different kinds: Some make a mess, and others clean it up.

this is false. christ preached a pagan non judaic religion that preached all men are or perhaps can become christ the living god. this is according to personal research deep study and thinking deeply. believe it, or dont idc. the vatican knows this.

>>18433787
Gnosis doesn't come out of a crack pipe.

>>18433788
you can call it gnosis yes. christ preached it. vatican preserves it to this day. protties have no clue at all literal christian jews who eat pork. orthodox might be based on pre christian greek philosophy i theorize they took their ideas from the shamans of the middle east that existed up into the islamic times al biruni called them shamaniyyun they say its buddhism i dont believe it.

>>18433787
>>18433803
meds time, methinks

>>18433763
Your “good works” (in reality sins committed with pride) will send you straight to hell. Salvation is only found in Christ.

>>18433913
kys homosexual sodomite.

>>18433917
Disgusting wretched, anti human cult.

>>18433763
Other than the heretics in America, are there really any Christians who believe you shouldn't try your hardest to live a virtuous life?
Have you not read the lives of saints? Are they not given to us as an example of what it means to be a Christian?

>>18433763
I'd argue the opposite actually. Atheists usually are atheists because they want to sin without having to repent for it. Such things as hard drug use and promiscuity figure into this.

>>18434040
This. If Christianity were easy to practice and had actual societal benefits atheists would do it, but they don't because they love their sins.

>>18433763
Only protties believe that believing is enough to be saved. Theosis is the right path to salvation. This concept is completely foreign to them.

>>18434063
Theosis is an eternal process

>>18434063
Define theosis and define saved

>>18434069
Alignment of the soul with God's will. Saved, meaning the soul is justified and therefore not subject to eternal damnation in Gehenna.

>>18434078
Is justification a legal declaration, and if so what is its ground?

>>18434080
It's a spiritual orientation

>>18434069
>theosis
The lifelong process of slowly being transformed into a better person by trying to live by the teachings of Jesus Christ.
>saved
Being justified in the eyes of God as a righteous person. Communion with Him.

>>18434082
Not in the New Testament, so this is heresy

>>18434085
Is one’s personal theosis the cause of their justification?

>>18434086
I didn't know you followed the Law of Moses in its fullness.

>>18434089
I didn’t, but Jesus did.

>>18434090
So then how are you justified if it's not legal? Oh, it's about whether or not your soul believes in Christ and submits to God?

>>18434088
Its about the orientation of your heart. Thats what justifies you. If you are truly trying to seek Him despite the occasional tumble then you are (probably) saved. You are damned if you are trying to see it in a legalistic way, it doesnt work like that. Its about you genuinely trying to follow Him despite your flaws. To turn your heart towards Him. Being honest about it is the key, salvation cant be gamed.