>>18435337
Jesus was a rabbi
>And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “What do you seek?” They said to him ,where are You staying?”

john 1:38

>>18435341
jesus is still middle eastern, it has nothing to do with europe. jesus was also brown.

>>18435337
Chad Ripperger says he has never once encountered the Greek gods in his exorcisms, but all the other pagan deities absolutely. Make of that what you will.

>>18435345
Yeah that’s my point how many ancient European rabbis where hanging around Scandinavia?

>>18435346
Is not about believing, is just tradition. Is being proud of your culture. I don't believe in any god, I just want to be proud of my culture.

>>18435347
there weren't jewish people in scandinavia, if there were, were a few.

>>18435349
You shouldn't actually worship gods if you don't believe in them. There is a God, the Neoplatonists have the best understanding of him, and it all hinges on a European man's philosophical framework that blossomed into a thriving, millennium long tradition. We worship the gods to have a relationship with God. It's all about the reinforcement of behavior, of virtues, of systems. That's why the Romans believed in the Pax Deorum.

>>18435353
I just want to restore European traditions. I like the Classical Age. Our heritage needs to be preserved. But Jews destroyed it. Hitler was right.

>>18435337
>My ancestors were white and
You're not white and never were, Ranjeesh.

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>>18435349
So you are a LARPing atheist. We got it.

>>18435389
i'm not exactly atheist. I just believe in science and reject debunked theories. but the only think science and i can't disprove or prove is the existence of a deity.

>>18435337
Europeans adopted civilization largely with Christianity and certainly reached their civilizational peak. There was no European civilization as we know it before Christianity. Europe was largely Christendom vis a vis Islamic civ / MENA world.

>>18435357
Classical antiquity / Greco-Romans was/were an extension of MENA civilization, not European as you are envisioning.

>>18435403
>Europeans adopted civilization largely with Christianity and certainly reached their civilizational peak. There was no European civilization as we know it before Christianity. Europe was largely Christendom vis a vis Islamic civ / MENA world.
Rome, Etruscans, and Hellas civilizations were are before Christianity dickhead.

>>18435357
>I just want to restore European traditions
>no not the 2000 year old common tradition that saw Europe brought to the top, the other traditions, the fragmented ones that existed for a few centuries, back when Europe was the ass of the world
Okay

>>18435424
the Roman empire was greater. it didn't need Christianity.

Not to mention the "traditions" OP/larpagans speak about were reconstructed from fragmentary literary mythology for elites. I mean Celtic religion is almost entirely reconstructed from Roman/Christian writings.

>>18435429
Greater by what measure

>>18435430
>mythology
chirstianity is also mythology.

if you think a brown jewish false prophet is your god, you're too much retarded to be white.

Europe outside the Mediterranean was colder Africa pre-Christianity.

>>18435435
No, it's religion by definition, dummy

>>18435441
Yeah, Newton, Faraday, Aldrin, J. Lennox, F. Collins are all non white and retarded.

>>18435450
>Newton, Faraday, Aldrin, J. Lennox, F. Collins
they didn't know middle east people were brown. now that you know it, you're a retard.

Abraham had to be willing to see his covenant through a miscegenation in order to commit to the Akedah. So arguably it has never been about race and the Jews willfully ignore that point.

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>>18435337
>>18435345
>jesus was brown
Heresy

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>>18435337
sure buddy

>>18435478
shit goyim meme.

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>>18435397
>le science
Lmao

>>18435483
friendly-goyim culture.

>>18435357
>muh traditionalism
>muh hitler
National socialism was the opposite of tradition. If you were actually a traditionalist you'd be pro German monarchy but instead you're another mentally burnt out /pol/spic.

>>18435406
>Rome, Etruscans, and Hellas civilizations were are before Christianity dickhead.
read my whole post, low-IQer, I addressed antiquity

>>18435346
Exorcism is a scam. People that were supposedly “possessed by demons” were tested and all were found to have some kind of mental illness they were born with.

>>18435349
Traitor. The gods are real and to disrespect them in any way is blasphemy. Enjoy Tartarus

>>18435506
>>18435506
in you retarded conception, European civilizations like Rome and Hellas weren't civilizations because they haven't Christianity. This is a retarded opinion, it makes no sense, greece and rome were more evolved than Jews. Can you please get out of here, you're not a smart person to discuss my topic.

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>>18435478
A mere thousand years of Christianity is nothing compared to millions of years of paganism. Cope

>>18435483
Deism is not Christianity and most historic scientists were deists not Christians. Deism acknowledges the existence of a being called “God” but considers him a non-personal and non-interventionist one, which is incompatible with how God is depicted in the Bible.

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>>18435337
>>18435337
You might want to start looking at actual history. There is no evidence of the Torah before the mud 200s BCE. This isn't news. It's been known for a long time. The more recent work has been on how and where the judaen and samaratitan preisthood "borrowed" the stories you find in the "old testament." And a huge amount of the stories, laws, etc were taken from western culture... a lot form the writings of Plato.
Go further and start studying tge character of jesus. More theology borrowed from western culture. Dying and rising savior gods predated jesus by centuries if not millenia. The festivals of jesus' supposed birth and death had been tge festivals of ancient pagan gods. The bread and wine.... flesh and blood sacraments are seen in previous agriculture gods. And there is no historical evidence for jesus, either.
So what you are looking at is western mythology that is repackaged with hidden middle eastern poison and sold back to the west. Why did the west accept it? They (we) didn't. It was forced on us by the catholic church who gained state power through Constantine. Christianity butchered it's way across Europe and later the world. A more honest discussion of this actual history is discussed in chapters 7-9 in Ken's book Jesus Never Existed. Audio version here for free:
https://m.youtube.com/@JesusNeverExistd

>>18435406
it still makes no sense saying romans and greeks are an extension of middle eastern civilizations. Rome acquired knowledge from Greeks and Etruscans. Greeks developed philosophy without any civilization's help, okay some philosophers went to Egypt and middle east civilizations.

>>18435534
Shit garbage troll. This is pseudohistory.

>>18435528
We can't prove a person named Yeshua was the same person Tacitus described as Christus.

>>18435539
>Shit garbage troll
You refute nothing with an ad hominem attack. The sources I've posted have received scholarly review.
There is no independent historical evidence for Noah, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
None, zero, zip.
The old and ne testaments proven fake and gay by archeological evidence. Read the jewish section here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri_and_ostraca

>>18435524
Do odinfags even believe in anything? Or is it just a larp based on new age vibes?

>>18435584
odin was white muscular and strong. jesus was weak, fag, and brown.

>>18435584
The gods are real and are actual divine beings who rule the cosmos and are owed worship. To disrespect them in any way is blasphemy.
Also I don’t worship Odin myself, I’m Hellenist. Odin himself however is real and is another aspect of Hermes Trismegistus, Tacitus recognized this enough to refer to him as Mercury in his work Germania.

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>>18435528
>most historic scientists were deists not Christians
cope

>>18435592
you don't understand that the majority part of society in that age was christian? so it's kida obvious scientists were Christians too. And everyone can believe in the divine as science can't disprove or prove the existence of a deity.

>>18435586
Larp
>>18435589
You seem to know your shit. Do we know how those religions worked? What was expected of them or how they worshipped? Often times I get the feeling things like that are lost to time. And the current revival is just based on some sort of vague notion of returning to tradition without defining what the religion is all about.

>>18435523
kek you're too low IQ to comprehend. let me try again.

Rome and Hellas were not European civilizations in the modern sense. The Greco-Romans were genetically, culturally, and civilizationally of Middle-Eastern stock. not white.

>>18435589
>Hellenist
if you are white, you're LARPing. your ancestors had nothing to do with Hellenics.

>>18435673
and by white i mean north-european aka Germanic, Celtic, Nordic stock

>>18435673
>Rome and Hellas were not European civilizations in the modern sense. The Greco-Romans were genetically, culturally, and civilizationally of Middle-Eastern stock. not white.
lying again. get out of here, you retard.

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>>18435673
>The Greco-Romans were genetically, culturally, and civilizationally of Middle-Eastern stock. not white

The dark hell-spawned demons are not an never were the creators of any civilization, being the embodiment of hell upon the earth, they can and do only destroy everything built by the light of God.

In other words, your historical revisionism is heretical.

>>18435681
he said "greeks and romans were genetically middle eastern." please. can someone take him to a mental hospital.

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>>18435686
>middle eastern
The dark hell-spawned demons are not an never were "middle eastern", being the embodiment of hell upon the earth, they can and do only destroy everything built by the light of God.

>>18435584
No. They Don't

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>>18435681
It's true. They were majority EEF (Anatolian in origin) and swarthy and dark-haired in appearance. Maybe early Republican-era Romans were a bit more northern shifted on average than Greeks (but still majority EEF mind you) but even they, as they civilized, they absorbed even more Greek and Eastern Med / Middle-Eastern admixture so they were a lot swarthier during the Empire.

More to the point, the civilization came from MENA. Their agriculture, writing script, architecture, (there were no Greek temples prior to Semitic craftsmen teaching them lol), even the impetus for philosophy and arts, . All of it came from contact with Egyptians, Phoenicians, Syrians, Babylonians and others. These were their closest peers. Not Germanics and Celts LOL

Even today, Greeks have way more in common with someone from Lebanon than they do someone from Sweden.

https://youtu.be/g7v3RYMq-6s?si=Hr3i0ilR7rJLWMjg

>>18435706
>Even today, Greeks have way more in common with someone from Lebanon than they do someone from Sweden.
it's because of the ottoman empire. but Italians are still white.

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>>18435706
darkness is the taint of hell-spawned demon contamination, and the herald of civilizations destruction.

>>18435337
To all (*larp*)agans:
1)A religion requires theology, a consistent worldview that can be fully understood in the context of that religion. The problem that every LARPagan has, is that they have no theology.
2)you guys are modern, disconnected people attempting to imagine a past that never existed, based on images you're seen in the media and entertainment.
3)The ancient pagans are long dead, and their children converted to Christianity millennia ago. All the cultural practices that were once celebrated in a "pagan" context, are now celebrated in a Christian one.
4)This was a natural evolution. Ultimately, Truth matters. Picking a religion based solely on personal preference is not only inane, but self-refuting.

>>18435717
Bro, They're atheists who behave like atheists. Every e-pagan post I've seen is just an insult directed at Christ, or outright fabrications of history and bad context check-out our threads every day

>>18435686
they were. Majority EEF which is Anatolian Farmer in origin. Ancient Greeks would have been no less swarthy and dark-haired than moderns, if not more-so.

The Greco-Romans were a part of the Middle-East and North Africa cultural sphere. Even today. Their closest cultural peers would have been Egyptians, Phoenicians and the rest. Calling Greco-Romans European is basically a Retcon.

Western civilization (Germanics including Anglos, Celts, and so on) is a newer thing that comes to the fore really with the emergence of Christendom and then modernity.

MY GOD IS WHITE! MY GOD IS NOT BROWN!

>>18435589
>Hellenist
No, you aren't.
you have no theology nor Religious, but you aren't religious And philosophical, which is only a partial truth. The works of Plato for instance played a role in God's divine plan, but alone they are a falsehood. The day a LARPagan debates someone like Jay Dyer, and argues 'genuine' theology and wins, is a day I won't hold my breath for fuck off

>>18435528
>Deism acknowledges the existence of a being called “God” but considers him a non-personal and non-interventionist one,
And It died out because a "unconscious" God that caused nature but do nothing else is completely a self-defeating concept. Why not just think that only the natural world exist then?

>>18435709
Ancient DNA with the samples we have has refuted this. Greeks have little to no Ottoman-era admixture specifically. But Ottomans would have been similar anyway as they're mostly of local Anatolian stock. These populations would have been interacting and mixing in countless waves going back to the Neolithic , certainly throughout antiquity.

> Italians are still white.
Ironically, the swarthy Southern Italians are genetically the most Ancient Greek. That admixture probably darkened them and also brought Eastern Mediterranean civilization.

what makes christianity part of whiteness?

>>18435734
>you have no theology nor Religious
I am Neoplatonist and worship the gods (I even sacrifice a pig yesterday. Was expensive but it was worth it), fuck off.
>The works of Plato for instance played a role in God's divine plan, but alone they are a falsehood
You are a fag. Nothing in Plato’s works is “a falsehood on its own” nor was he some “stepping stone to Christianity” and in fact, he would have viewed Christianity as a perversion. The gods are emanations of the Monas, to reject their existence or divinity is blasphemy.

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>>18435713
Cope. They were Oriental peoples similar to arabs and had nothing in common with Swedes lol

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>>18435765
>calls other people fags
>is a "neo-"Platonist not an actual Platonist
>Sacrifices animals like a dumb Old Testament Hebrew
>defends the Archons
You are still in the cave

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To end this thread:

flying magic Jew is a Semitic god who favors Semites and is non-white i m right? Ok then basically This is why we should abandon Abrahamism in favor of eurpean native aryan gods who are pro-white, native, and above all, anti-univeralist and don't care about brown people. Since OP posted a pic of Poseidon and there's an anon here, probably from the US who doesn't even have the capacity to read a work in Koine Greek larping as greek, Let's talk about Zeus, the white Hellenistic European god who is anti-brown... right?!?

>And they say that they were the first to be taught to honour the gods and to hold sacrifices and processions and festivals and the other rites by which men honour the deity; and that in consequence their piety has been published abroad among all men, and it is generally held that the sacrifices practised among the Ethiopians are those which are the most pleasing to heaven. As witness to this they call upon the poet who is perhaps the oldest and certainly the most venerated among the Greeks; for in the Iliad he represents both Zeus and the rest of the gods with him as absent on a visit to Ethiopia to share in the sacrifices and the banquet which were given annually by the Ethiopians for all the gods together

>For Zeus had yesterday to Ocean's bounds

>Set forth to feast with Ethiop's faultless men
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Diodorus_Siculus/3A*.html

>>18435776
American ""Hellenistic"" here its fake ok? Its fake neoplatonist here its fake

>>18435765
The way you bark makes it clear you're an atheist, which 99% of LARPagans actually are. Sorry, spammer.

I m greek, not you

>>18435760
Again, you know nothing about Christianity, so you shouldn't speak so matter-of-factly. This is a "problem" that was answered when your ancestors weren't even born. I highly doubt you became a "LARPagan" or whatever you consider yourself to be naturally. You fell for a psyop, plain and simple.

>>18435776
Cuckdin is far less interesting when compared to Zeus

>>18435788
i don't believe in a brown god like you do.

>>18435776
The quote that btfo larpagans like this one>>18435797

>>18435717
>1)A religion requires theology, a consistent worldview that can be fully understood in the context of that religion. The problem that every LARPagan has, is that they have no theology.
I am Neoplatonist. I have reads the work of Plato and later Hellenist philosophers (I even learnt Ancient Greek so I could read them in their original languages.
>2)you guys are modern, disconnected people attempting to imagine a past that never existed, based on images you're seen in the media and entertainment.
Polytheism never existed? What drugs are you on?
>3)The ancient pagans are long dead, and their children converted to Christianity millennia ago. All the cultural practices that were once celebrated in a "pagan" context, are now celebrated in a Christian one.
The gods are immortal divine beings who live on a higher plane of existence and control aspects of reality. Humans ceasing to worship them does not effect the gods’ existence or divinity in the slightest and if anything it is humans who are worse off. You are nothing more than a troglodyte who views everything from the lens of marvel Consoomers.
>4)This was a natural evolution. Ultimately, Truth matters. Picking a religion based solely on personal preference is not only inane, but self-refuting.
But Christianity is not the truth, Hellenism is. The Bible is nothing more than a pack of lies and propaganda that are at best equivalent to the Song of the Nibelungs—a bunch of scattered myths and unrelated historical events conflated into a single event due to semi-illiteracy and nobody at the time of its composition could dispute due to said semi-illiteracy.

>>18435840
i'm just saying the truth. jesus is brown. odin is white. cry.

>>18435717
>>18435852
>But Christianity is not the truth, Hellenism is. The Bible is nothing more than a pack of lies and propaganda that are at best equivalent to the Song of the Nibelungs—a bunch of scattered myths and unrelated historical events conflated into a single event due to semi-illiteracy and nobody at the time of its composition could dispute due to said semi-illiteracy.
For example, the actual historical basis for Exodus is a bunch of diseased warlords with leprosy from the Levant who invaded Egypt during the Armana Period, desecrated temples, and were eventually expelled from Egypt for their crimes. They were so embarrassed about their expulsion that they rewrote history to make it look like they they were “oppressed slaves” (Egypt didn’t even have the type of chattel slavery depicted in Exodus) who made a triumphant escape rather than what they really were, expelled invaders with leprosy.

>>18435852
Well, i m not reading but
>neoplatonism
Platonists should distance themselves from paganism and online neopaganism. You’re a monist. You aren’t these śudric or at best kśatric larpers who believe in true polytheism (are metaphysically atheists) and ask deities for fruitive benefits and whatnot. Your approach should be like that of contemporary Gnostics .

>>18435783
>The way you bark makes it clear you're an atheist
So every Christian who says “you worship demons” or “only my religion is true” is also an atheist by your own standards.
>I m greek, not you
Imagine thinking that Hellenism wasn’t the dominant faith of the Roman Empire or that western civilization isn’t a result of influence from Ancient Greece and Rome.
Also I’m Italian, my ancestors absolutely did worship the Greco-Roman gods. So fuck off.

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>>18435854
wrong

>>18435884
>Platonists should distance themselves from paganism and online neopaganism. You’re a monist. You aren’t these śudric or at best kśatric larpers who believe in true polytheism (are metaphysically atheists) and ask deities for fruitive benefits and whatnot.
Monism is not monotheism nor is it incompatible with polytheism. Ancient Platonic philosophers believed in the existence of the gods and that they were were actual divine beings who controlled aspects of reality and were owed worship. Saying:
>“All gods are emanations or aspects of a single divine source.”
Has nothing to do with the Christian concept of:
>“All gods but my own are false gods or demons.”
Platonic philosophy and later Middle Platonist and Neoplatonist philosophy was never meant to replace polytheism but rather provide an intellectual backbone for it. Porphyry of Tyre for example, a Neoplatonist philosopher whom even Augustine reluctantly admitted was one of the most learnt intellectuals in his time, defended traditional religious practices and believed they were a valid way for the masses to access the divine, he even defended oracles and divination. There’s also the fact that Socrates last request before his execution was literally to sacrifice a rooster to Asclepius.
To seperate Greco-Roman philosophy from the Greco-Roman religion is a sign of ignorance.

>>18435897
show the source. and show the scholars thst confirm your belief.

>>18435903
Bro i m not reading

>>18435765
In a real religion, you have a community of people following a divinely ordained code of behavior. In Neopaganism you have a lone wolf Necheichen ubermensch with a self-written code of behavior that they'll follow if they happen to feel like it. Yes, impulse control is important. Nice try

>>18435911
That same code also happens to coviniently condone whatever behaviour the neo-paganist has at the moment.

>>18435910
Then you are ignorant of philosophy.

>>18435388
bro

>>18435911
>Necheichen-chan so kawaii!
How did you fuck up Nietzsche's name so badly?

neither Jesus or Odin are real, bro. this isn't the 10th century.

>>18436508
It's depressing. This board used to be atheist chad territory. Now it's Just Christians and NeoPagans arguing over which of their fairy tales is a Jewish plot.