God's chosen people

mostly local wops, probably highland "illyrians" (generic label back then) with possible influence from greece, macedonia, thracia or whatever. they have like 10% slavic blood but are otherwise rather unchanged since antiquity. no MENA blood altho they are inbred

Swartoid inbreed anfs.

>>18512612
The only indigenous people of the balkans

>>18512634
>no MENA blood altho they are inbred
they have the same anatolian/north levantine type of ancestry present in greece and italy

>>18512612
>Albanians, what are they?
criminals

>>18512612
Sex

>>18513215
fair, i'd say it's irrelevant tho. the point is that albos aren't "turkish rapebabies" like greeks claim

>>18512634
So Gypsy Italians?

>>18513583
>like greeks claim
It's mostly Westerners, particularly Americans, making this claim. Some Greeks too, sure, and the "Albanians from Caucasus" theory can also be heard among Greeks, Serbs and other Balkanians, but to be honest I've heard more ridiculous claims (about Tukish, Asian, African, Siberian, gypsy, what-have-you) from Albanians about all their neighbours than the opposite

>>18512612
Kind of all of the above, OP

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>>18512612
Illyrians and Thracians mostly. 70% native haplogroups, 10% German scatter, 10% slavshit, 10% mena but all from the Roman era and these lineages were absorbed into Albanian ethnogroup during Albanian reemergence and conquest of lost territory starting around 1100 ad.

Also the ancient early republican romans were an Illyrian tribe. Hence similar genes to modern Albanians.

>>18515115
Also zero percent turkomongol genes, even Danes have about 1%. Albanians were highly respected warriors and osmanli decided it was best to be friends and both took turns raping Serbs.

>>18512612
They are descendants of the Illyrians, who get their name from Aryans.

They are the last PVRE Aryans of Evropa, as Southern Europe was conquered by the Arabs, France was always black, Germans being took over by Turks, nords being took over by Somalis, and Slavs being a mongol Turkic hybrid species.

Most of the balkans got replaced by Turks, but because Albanians have been Muslim since ancient times, they were respected and revered by the Turks, preserving their Illyrian Aryan genes.

>>18516496
Albanians are also proof that Islam is the true religion of Aryans.
Originally, all Aryans practiced Islam, but over time the teachings of the former prophets were corrupted and twisted, which is how we get heretic pagans proclaiming that Jesus (PBUH) was actually Allah, or that pork is perfectly fine to eat and doesn’t put Jewish worms in your brain.

>>18512612

turkic people, originally from azerbaycan, resettled by the ottomans to displace local christians

>>18512612
No idea, some people paint them as a "very unique" group, but then you check their language and it's just another Indo-European language which is a bit more isolated than the rest.

>>18516592
Albanian is half latin

>>18516583
If that were so then how come Albanians have zero Turkic YDNA? You dipshit. Same thing for kavkaz Ydna, none to be found in Albanians. Serbs have more of Turkic and kavkaz genes but somehow Kosovo is their holy land. Kek what a bunch of gypsies and all the rest of slavs as well.

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>>18516686
Here’s a Turkish dna project that combines over 1700 ydna results. All the red are central Asian related YDNA from Turko-Mongol. Albanians statistically have zero percent of any of these genes. And J2a and G found usually in kavkaz are found in extreme minorities amongst Albanians and are in fact the Neolithic farmer European subclades. I wonder why surface level monkeys keep repeating this low iq lie about Albanians when all the evidence is right there? We aren’t even looking at historical evidence from Claudius ptomely that mentions Albanians living in todays Albania around 200 ad.

They look pretty swarthy considering they're so genetically close to Northern Italians

>>18512612
They are the remnants of Paleo-Balkanic peoples who avoided Hellenization/Romanization/Slavization

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>>18516686
Neither Serbs nor other South Slavs have more "Caucasian" DNA since they have approximately zero, and what little East Asian they've got is entirely mtDNA-wise, unlike that Hoti Fis of yours, which has that Anatolian Turkish J1a lineage, according to your own DNA project.

> Kosovo is their holy land
Everything that stands there was built by the Serbs, barring Bondsteel (NATO master of yours) and Muslim mosques (which are Ottoman).

>bunch of Gypsies
Shqiptars are small, brown, smell like shit, and steal other people's property. That's literally Gyppo lore 101.

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>>18515115
20% Slavic nationally, but regionally, it varies. The historically rich parts of Albania have much higher incidences of Slavic Y-DNA since there were more Albanian women worth raping there. Before you run your brown, short mouth, remember, this is from your own DNA Project.

>>18512612
Italian here (lots of albanians here, luckily most of them civilized and integrate. Lowest class albanians prefer Greece or Germany). They are weird because It seems each sex among albanians show completely different genetics, at least according to my annedoctal experience:
>Most albanian women are petite brunette, looking like slighty less swarty southern italian/greek women
>Most albanian men instead have very prominent balkanic feature (bulky, squared head), basically slavoids in all but language. Somehow they also tend to have fairer features (hair, eyes) compared to their women

>>18515115
this is fake and posted by the same mentally ill albaboon

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>>18512612
they are local balkan + gypsy + turk + slav mix. here judge for yourself

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the illyrians lmao

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also insanely mixed with turks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians_in_Turkey

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let me know if you need more help to determine

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>>18517045
Albanian women are the most common street hookers in Italy behind Romanian women. I fucked a lot of Albo women in Turin. They look very different from Italian: box shaped heads, very dark almost black eyes/hair (but the skin is generally pale), shorter than Italians, the women either have that Baltid look or the hook nosed Turkish look.

Pic related an escort from Kosovo I've fucked in Rome.

>>18512612
criminal animals

>>18512612
They're retards. Seriously, every Albanian I've encountered was incredibly stupid. They also have the lowest average IQ in Europe.

>>18512612
>white niggas of europe
they're only one of those, and it's not white

>>18516686
I'm not sure why everyone from the Balkans decides to call their assigned racial enemy in the region a gypsy. Gypsies pointedly do not intermingle to any significant extent with any of the European countries that they have been itinerant in.

>>18512612
in italy we just know them as low iq drug dealers you can buy weed from

>>18516956
>j1
>1% frequency
>almost exclusively from Roman era
So why isn’t your gypsy brown ass going to talk about Turkish ydna and complete lack of it in Albanian genome?
>serbs built churches
Serbs invaded Kosovo in the 13th century only to get defeated by another invading force a century later. Serbs have zero history in Kosovo outside of worshipping a circumcised Arab as their God.
>>18516962
The richest southern part with the most slavshit dna is also darker and shorter than the north with less Slavic dna. As an ethnic unit ghegs have less than 10% slavshit YDNA.

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>>18517215
Let’s consult phenotype (.) net, Serbs have a noticeable amount of indid phenotype while Albanians don’t. Other south slavs have it too. South Slavs mix with anyone, they’re niggers to the highest degrees and literal Gypsies genetically and culturally.

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>>18517053
>>18517056
>>18517062
>>18517067
>>18517091
Way whiter than Serbs. Actually gypsy mutts no larp.

Nothing more hilarious than listening to a bunch of retarded balkans slavs arguing about their ancient ethnicities when you literally arrived at the same time the first turks were getting to Anatolia. You retards only got to the balkans in the 7th century and displaced all the native Byzantine/Roman stock and took their lands. But have done literally nothing with it for 1300 years that's why its poorer now than in the roman times LOL

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>>18517497
Bosnian Serbs looking very Turkish. Very unique phenotype that is common in Turkey and Serbia. Serbia didn’t conquer Turkey.

>>18517504
You all look the same to me, hairy ugly and mogoloid. The only difference between a serb, an Albanian, a turk or a Bosnian to me is the annoying language you speak and that you all think you are roman descendants despite migrating to the area centuries after it fell

>>18517485
>The guy who lives a town or two over from me is the lowest gypsy nigger imaginable
>I am entirely racially distinct from this genetic remnant of robust archaic hominids despite him living (on average) 50-100 km away from me for tens of generations

>>18517509
Consult this shitskin>>18515115

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>>18512612
Serbs will always be niggers. Slavs will always be filth. Kill them all they aren’t human.

All slavs in the Balkans south of Hungary were brought in as slaves by Bulgarian Turkic horsemen. Despite modern historical sources clearly proving Bulgarians were a Turkic people, Macedonians, Serbians, and Albanians - Who are indistinguishable from each other will bicker and argue like they are the true descendants of the roman populations of the area even though we know they only arrived in the 7th century.

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> The majority of the slaves trafficked to Volga Bulgaria were exported to slavery in the Abbasid Caliphate, but there was also a slave market for domestic use in Bolghar. The Slavic slaves in Bolghar in Volga Bulgaria were assigned to live in specific slave quarters of the city, with their own judges Ibn Fadlan described slavery in Volga Bulgaria:

> "Russians are a separate tribe, their land borders the lands of Turks and Sakaliba. They are sold as slaves to Bulgars and Khazars, and also trade slaves. [...] In the Bulgar cities, since the time of [pre-Islamic] ignorance, there lived people of various origins. Among them, there were Sakaliba and Russians. They usually lived in one particular part of the city. [...] The Sakaliba we speak of here are heathen people who serve as slaves and warriors to the King [of the Bulgars]."

> The majority of the slaves imported to Volga Bulgaria were however intended for export. They were transported from southeastern Volga Bulgaria by caravan to Khwarazm, to the Samanid slave market in Central Asia and finally via Iran to the Abbasid Caliphate.

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> The Duchy of Bohemia was a new state in Christian Europe at this time, bordering the lands of pagan Slavs to the north and east. Pagans were considered as legitimate targets of enslavement both by Christian and Islamic law. Bohemia was thereby able to traffic pagan captives to the slave market of the Muslim Caliphate of Cordoba through Christian France without trouble. The Prague slave trade was a mutual trade of benefit between the Caliphate of Córdoba, who were dependent on slaves to manage their state bureaucracy and military, and the Duchy of Bohemia, whose new state rose to economic prominence due to the trade.

pic rel
> Saint Adalbert of Prague pleads with Boleslaus II, Duke of Bohemia, for the release of Christians slaves by their masters, Jewish merchants, Gniezno Door c. 1170

>>18515115
> Ancient DNA BS
LOL.
Ancient DNA is at best a statistical reconstructions, at worst a speculative tool.
I don't take any ADNA BS seriously.

>>18517571
Hey dipshit, Albanians have the same ydna as illyrians, thracians and several early Iron Age Roman samples. The rest is true.

>>18517589
>nnnnn it’s not real
Several early Iron Age Romans bare y-chromosome J2b-l283 and R1b-z2103. Genes found in Albanians today, and in ancient Bronze Age Balkan cultures.

>>18517661
>>nnnnn it’s not real
It literally is not by the admission of the authors of the same studies you cite.
These are reconstructions based on mathematical modeling.
You know nothing about biology if you think a full DNA strand that can be used for population studies can survive a 1000 year.
Your scientific illiteracy is not an argument, now, shoo!

>>18517661
Now you are mentioning haplogroup, this is much better than citing reconstructions, since at least they aren't reconstructed, but haplogroups are largely meaningful when discussing overall genetic structure.

>>18517515
This is just not real though, it's real data for Romans, but not for Albanians. I know what blogpost you got the Roman one.

t. Italian autist

>>18512612
They're Albanians, that's it. They've been around there since antiquity, literally one of the OGs along with the Greeks.

>>18517775
what always blew my mind about that theory is how can someone be around since antiquity yet have no contribution to humanity whatsoever throughout their entire history

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>>18512612
my pet theory: descendants of brnjica culture from the late bronze age, which may have given rise to the paeonians of antiquity. the oldest albanian toponyms are actually from an area northeast of modern-day albania (north macedonia, southwestern bulgaria, and southern serbia), which implies they migrated to their current location from the neighboring area during the middle ages.

on another note, proto-albanian had a rich vocabulary pertaining to whirlpools. brnjica culture developed from paracin culture, which occupied the iron gates (a famously treacherous stretch of the danube rife with whirlpools).

>>18517784
Alexander the Great was an E-V13 Albanian.

>>18517775
the first time the albanian language was ever recorded was in the 12 cent ad though. not really og

>>18517802
this is what i mean, it's like when niggas start wewuzzing, there's not a single person who actually identified as albanian that contributed to mankind. you claim to be the oldest people on world tm but have contributed nothing to the world in all of your history and then you also want to be a part of europe but you're muslim and have a shitton of turk and anatolian farmer admixture and you look very brown

>>18517807
iirc, the oldest placename with an unambiguous albanian etymology is maleševo (a mountain on the border between macedonia/bulgaria), first attested around 900 ad. that would support the idea that albanians migrated to modern-day albania from the central/eastern balkans during the medieval era.

>>18516737
northern italians are swarthy. they're only "fair" relative to southern italians, who are about as brown as europeans get

>>18517829
>maleševo
the evo ending and the word in general seems slavic to me

>>18512612
All I know is that there are too many of them in Switzerland and that they need to go back to Albania. They're thieves, liars, violent and cheap prostitutes. Once you meet one in real life, you begin to understand why ethnic cleansing is the only solution to Albanians

>>18517843
>the evo ending seems slavic
yes, words typically undergo change when borrowed into another language. nevertheless, mal(e) is an albanian word meaning "mountain, highland" (root of the toponym malësia in modern-day albania). there's also štip (a nearby town in eastern macedonia) and štipon (an extinct village in southwestern bulgaria) which appear to have received phonetic influence from albanian before entering slavic (the consonant cluster "št" did not exist in proto-slavic), attested around the same time (10th century ad).

on that note, even old pre-slavic toponyms in albania (such as shkodër) underwent sound changes in slavic before (re?)entering albanian, which it stands to reason would not have occurred if albanians continuously inhabited the area. bear in mind that I'm bulgarian and have zero incentive to draw such conclusions, demographic history is just a niche interest of mine

>>18517816
>>18517784
Forget that, there's 7-10 million of them worldwide according to wikipedia, yet the only notable Albanians are pop singers who don't even write their own song (basically just prostitutes) and criminals. Not a single scientist, not a single renowned sportsman, just absolute nothingness.

>>18517865
And the worst part according to wikipedia is that less than 40% of them actually live in Albania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians

>>18517091
Hot. Not into hookers but still good pick anon. She did anal too? Heard albanians/kossovan women are usually more open to it because on their rural societies is still often used as a device to have pre-marital sex while still being technically "virgin"

>>18517571
Albanians are likely pre-roman, at least in language. I know serbians and greeks sometimes try to claim the are actually caucasians albanians (Udi ancestors) brought there by the Ottomans. But genetics, languages and historical evidences all support the native albanians theory

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>>18512612
i know they are dumber than the average here in brazil and we have a lot of macacos to bring down our average too

>>18513583
>the point is that albos aren't "turkish rapebabies"
But they are. If they aren't, they wouldn't remain only european country with muslim majority.

>>18517882
there really were a lot of circassians brought by the ottomans to Kosovo, Bulgaria and Romania. Part of the reason why it happened is that when Russia conquered those lands, they started deporting circassians because they were Muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide#Balkans

>>18517865
Martin Shkreli tho

>>18517784
They were pretty much mountain hillybillies ignored by greeks before the italians started to civilized them in the late middle ages with the goal of converting them to Catholicism. The Ottomans completed the job and made albanians a proper indipendent ethnicity with their own identity and written language, to the point they became their most trusted subordinates

>>18517840
>northern italians are swarthy
Pic related is the phenotypes of average padanian plateau dweller without a single drop of terroni immigrants blood (not much common nowadays in the big cities, sadly)

>>18517885
Stop trying to blaim your own stupidity on immigrants, Joao

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>>18517911
Forgot pic

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>>18513583
people think Turks are some distinct Asian or Arab people, but that is not true, there are virtually no differences between Greeks and Turks genetically, thus also Albanians and also Bulgarians (except they have more slavic dna than the rest).

All of these groups have a large amount of:

E3b-M35 (E-M215 or E1b1b, formerly known as E3b, is a major human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. E-M215 has two basal branches, E-M35 and E-M281. E-M35 is primarily distributed in North Africa and the Horn of Africa, and occurs at moderate frequencies in the Middle East, Europe, and Southern Africa. E-M281 occurs at a low frequency in Ethiopia.)

Very swarthy looking appearance, most common in Albania (40%) but present in Greece too (20%) and Turkey (10%)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E1b1b_(Y-DNA)

J2 (anatolian farmer): most common in Turkey (24%), but present in Albania too (16.7%) and Greece (17%) - THE REALLY SWARTHY one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J-M172

G: 11% in Turkey, 9.52% in Greece, 4% in Albania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G_(Y-DNA)
R1b: 15% in Turkey, 18% in Albania, 11.7% in Greece

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b

R1a: slavic admixture - 6% in Turkey, 9% in Albania, 15.6% in Greece

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a

I (the I2 variant mostly): 5% in turkey, 8% in Albania and 20% in Greece

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I_(Y-DNA)

That's why the "turkish rape baby" doesn't make sense for any Balkan group. The turkish genes were already present in the Balkans - they're anatolian farmers. That's also why Albanians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Macedonians and Turks are equally swarthy, and why the southern you go in Serbia, the more swarthy they are as well. The white looking ones in any of these have more slavic admixture than anatolian or other native balkan admixture.

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>>18517571
The Seven Slavic tribes were allies of the Proto-Bulgars and had conquered Bulgaria and Romania with them, whereas the White Serbs, White Croats, Sclavenes, and the Antes were never under Avar or Bulgar overrule. This is a fact corroborated by the entirety of Roman primary sources and archaeology.

>>18517889
Albanians like bosnians lacked a national church, and instead they were forced to use the serbian/greek churches, that often promoted aggressive linguistic polices.
Islam instead being a new introduces Faith allowed them to Institute local Islamic pratices on their own languages. So its the main reason they quickly converted, to affirm their own cultural indipendence from being just considered "serbs/greeks with a strange language"

>>18517891
Yes but the albanian tounge is a IE language, circassian isnt. All hints support the native albanians theory

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>>18517914
this is also why Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia and Northern Serbia are the whitest looking bunch, and why the more south you go in Serbia, the less white they look - all of them have the least amount of local balkan admixture, and more R1a (slavic), R1b, and l2 (south slavic).

It's also why it doesn't make sense to call any one nation "illyrian", this was started by us in Croatia and most of us think it's a meme. But Albanians lached onto it. There's no actual successor to illyrian and Albani were just one tribe in the balkans that were a part of the illyrian region, realistically the Illyrian gene is l2, or the dinaric gene, since Illyrians were described as tall, and the only tall Albanians are those with l2 in Kosovo, the less l2 the less tall they are. And also the fact that illyria spanned mostly in the area of ex-yugoslavia.

Picrel is Croatia's genes for comparison, we're nothing like, say, Greece, we simply have too much R1a, r1b and l2 in contrast.

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>>18517924
picrel is Serbia

>>18517918
hi svetovid :3

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>>18517580
>>18517573
Slavic slaves were rarer and profoundly expensive, and at most, there were several thousand of them in each of the Muslim Caliphates (their destination of purchase), unlike the Turkic masses, who were sold as one of the mainstream, staple quarry for human trafficking over one of the largest landmasses, and for one of the longest periods in human history (from the earliest Muslim Caliphates to the Qajjar). The only period in human history when Slavs were sold in remotely similar numbers was during the "Harvesting of the Steppes", and even then, the total number is still somewhat smaller than the total number of Westerners who were enslaved by the Barbary Pirates.

>>18517914
Slavic admixture is both R1a and I2a, since 99% of all modern-day Southeastern European and Eastern European I2a is the Proto-Slavic Y3120, and 99% of R1a is R1a-M458 and R1a-Z282 (and R1a-Z92).

>Greeks, Bulgarians, Macedonians, and Turks are equally swarthy
Macedonians and Bulgarians are two shades lighter than Turks and the rest.

>>18512612
Worse than the Jews, may the Allah forgive you for uttering their name.

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>>18517918
>>18517918
Can you tell me more about the Seven Slavic tribes? I only know of White Serbia and White Croatia

t. Croat

>>18517932
>Slavic admixture is both R1a and I2a, since 99% of all modern-day Southeastern European and Eastern European I2a is the Proto-Slavic Y3120, and 99% of R1a is R1a-M458 and R1a-Z282 (and R1a-Z92).

Yes, I didn't mean to imply different, just that it's most frequent in South Slavs.

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>>18517932
Picrel is why I said "south slavic"

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>>18517924
>>18517930
I2a isn't "Illyrian" but Proto-Slavic. The lineage that comprises 99% of all EE and SE I2a lineages originated during the Proto-Slavic period (some 2300 years in Belarus), and all historical and modern-day I2a lineages in the abovementioned landmasses are downstream of it. From these images you've shared, merely Primorac et al. Scorrano et al. (the national Serb average is the best screened in Scorrano's study, 57% I2a + R1a) and Regueiro et. al. contain proper ethnic Serbs and Croats in their studies, without pollution from the minorities.

>>18517215
>decides to call their assigned racial enemy in the region a gypsy
Absolutely the same why mutts call each other niggers.

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>>18517932
>Bulgarians are two shades lighter than Turks and the rest.

Bulgarians have too many Turks for that to be the case, on top of Bulgars already being a Turkic (not slavic) tribe. They are only Slavic in language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian_Turks

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>>18517946
I see. May I ask where you're from? Also, what do you think explains the height difference in countries of former ex-Yugoslavia, and why Dinaric people in Dalmatia, Hercegovina and Montenegro specifically are the tallest people in Europe?

This study in specific seems to imply it's due to the l2 specifically, as their diets did not consume a lot of protein and were actually fairly impoverished throughout history, compared to some of the other tall people like the Dutch?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360770060_Mapping_the_Mountains_of_Giants_Anthropometric_Data_from_the_Western_Balkans_Reveal_a_Nucleus_of_Extraordinary_Physical_Stature_in_Europe

>>18517940
Avoid using anything from that shitshow, pseudointellectual page. That map is horrendous. Furthermore, in terms of sheer numbers, there are substantially more Ukrainians with I2a-Y3120 than South Slavs, and especially the Russians. Regarding percentage, it's the second most frequent Y-DNA among the Slovaks, Southeastern Poles, and the Eastern Slavs (25% among Ukrainians, 23% among the Belarusians, and 18.4% among the Russians).

>Can you tell me more about the Seven Slavic tribes
They were military frontiersmen and were tasked with defending Bulgaria's westernmost and northernmost borders, whereas the Severyani (who joined them and the Proto-Bulgars against the Romans) were tasked with defending the easternmost borders. Originally autonomous within the First Bulgarian Empire but subsequently integrated into the broader Bulgarian civilization, they seized all institutions of power within the First Bulgarian Empire, barring that of the ruling house and the grand marshal, and their grand Zupan Sivin was among the most steadfast allies of Knyaz Boris, the first Bulgarian ruler to assume the Slavic title, and the ruler who established Slavic civilization as the empire's mainstream, culturally, linguistically and religiously. Thanks to them, the Pliska-Preslav material culture is primarily of Slavic origin.

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>>18517948
The vast majority of Bulgaria's Turks (labeled as Balkan Turks in DNA studies) are brainwashed, Muslim Bulgarians, who are 47% Slavic in terms of Y-DNA (compared to Bulgarians, who are 45%).

>>18517948
>They are only Slavic in language
In terms of history, tangible and intangible culture, ethnography, and DNA. Fun fact: the Proto-Bulgars were systematically Slavicized and ousted from power by the Slavs by the time Boris assumed the Slavic title of Knyaz (by doing so, he prevented their full takeover).

>>18517956
>Avoid using anything from that shitshow, pseudointellectual page
Lmao alright

>>18517956
>Furthermore, in terms of sheer numbers, there are substantially more Ukrainians with I2a-Y3120 than South Slavs, and especially the Russians

What do you mean by "sheer numbers", because obviously both Ukraine and Russia have 4-10 times the population of all South Slavs

>>18517964
I'd like to talk to you more, would you be willing to do that outside of 4chin?

>>18512612
literal subhumans I don't know why there's so many of them in Italy

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>>18517952
Wholly genetic thing, and impoverishment in these territories is a post-Great Ottoman War phenomenon, when the population of Southeastern Europe dropped from 8 million to around 3 million, and when the infrastructure of the northern territories of Southeastern Europe was systematically destroyed. Originally, this part of Europe was far more developed and wealthier than Ottoman Anatolia, and only behind Northern Italy across all parameters.

>>18517948
the bulgars were a tiny aristocracy with a documented practice of incorporating slavic tribal leaders into their ranks. the fact that zero (0) toponyms can be attributed to them (even the name of their capital city - pliska, is of slavic etymology) should make it obvious how demographically dwarfed they were

>>18512612
Subhuman scum that need to be eradicated. They have a near monopoly on the weed and cocaine trade in the U.K., and they use the proceeds of those trades to subsidise child trafficking and sexual slavery rings across the U.K. and Europe. It's your obligation to get rid of them however you can, wherever you find them. Disgusting filth.

>>18517856
>All I know is that there are too many of them in Switzerland
kek, my dad smuggled albanians from kosovo into switzerland during the 90s. he'd get them in with fraudulent academic visas (basically, they would present themselves as scientists attending a conference) which of course were just a ploy to immigrate illegally. most of them were from a village called recice, now uninhabited because its entire population moved abroad. enjoy the gift, westoid

>>18517987
Don't worry, soon we will kick out all mudslimes out of Europe. Just vote Restore Britain.

>>18512634
They have all the same blood as Turks as >>18517914 pointed out and the E1b they use to larp as Romans is more present in North Africa than Albania

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>>18512612
Literally all you need to know is that Albanians have 2x the crime rate of Afghanis in the UK and 4x the crime rate of Somalians.

some Bulgarian nationalist want desperately for the Bulgars to both not be Turkic but also have a substantial genetic impact in modern Bulgarians

>>18517964
>The vast majority of Bulgaria's Turks (labeled as Balkan Turks in DNA studies) are brainwashed, Muslim Bulgarians, who are 47% Slavic in terms of Y-DNA (compared to Bulgarians, who are 45%).
mental illness, their Y-DNA variants of "slavic haplogroups" exists in Turkey and 1000 AD central asian samples

They thought they were Illyrians, but then it turned out Illyrians were mostly J2b and R1b-Z2103 while Albanians are E-V13. They are obviously still local Europeans, but probably from some other Indo-European tribes. Samples from further East like Thracians are full of E-V13.