Daily Presidents Thread #18: Ulysses S. Grant Anonymous
06/06/26(Sat)16:23:44
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We're now on the 18th day of my daily presidents threads celebrating the 250th anniversary of the USA.
Today we have Ulysses S. Grant (4/27/1822 - 7/23/1885), who served as president from 1869 to 1876. Prior to being president, he served as a general and eventual commander in chief of the Union army during the Civil War. After his death, he became famous for his world tour and memoirs, and his funeral was attended by more people than anyone else in American history.
Notable actions or events during his presidency include the continuance of Reconstruction, the 1876 Centennial, the 15th Amendment, the Naturalization Act of 1870, the Force Acts, the fight against the KKK, the Department of Justice, the Amnesty Act of 1872, the failed Blaine Amendment, the Panic of 1873, the numerous scandals of his cabinet members such as the Whiskey Ring, the creation of our first National Park, the Treaty of Washington, the Korean Expedition, the Colfax Massacre, the Brooks-Baxter War, the Vicksburg Massacre, the Civil Rights Act of 1875, the Peace Policy towards Native Americans, the Virginius Affair, and the attempt to annex Santo Domingo.
What do you think of the man who made the confederates cry?
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>Blowback over the numerous scandals and the 1873 economic crash led to Democrats regaining Congress in the 1874 midterms and threatening to retake the White House in another two. Some corrupt Republicans went so far as to urge Grant to run for a third term and he nearly accepted but in December 1875 Congress passed a resolution sternly reminding him of the two term tradition.
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>The crafty financiers James Fisk and Jay Gould hatched a plot to corner the gold market but the ruse would only work if the Treasury refrained from selling gold. They worked on Grant directly and through his brother-in-law, who was given a $25,000 bribe. On Black Friday, September 24, 1869, the pair frantically bid the price of gold skyward while scores of honest businessmen were driven to the wall. The bubble was broken when the Treasury was compelled to release gold. A Congressional probe found the president guilty of nothing but poor judgement.
>Jay Gould went on to boom and bust railroad stocks in a spectacular display of skulduggery for the next 25 years, boasting "Any fool can make a fortune. It takes a genius to hold onto one." James Fisk was not so long-lived. A notorious ladies' man who often rode through the streets of New York City in a carriage with female admirers at his side, he was shot dead outside a Manhattan hotel in 1872 by an irate husband he'd cuckolded.
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>>18515206
>born in small town Ohio
>is a dreamy sensitive young man as a kid with the desire to grow up and become an artist
>his dad is a hardass social climber and wants his son to "be someone"
>dad cashes in all his favors with prominent members of Ohios political class and secures his son a position at West Point
>despite all his protest, a young Grant is basically forced into the military academy
>while here his grades are lackluster, but he takes on a real natural talent at horsemenship
>is regarded as one of the best riders of all the cadets and can even perform tricks on horseback
>despite all this, he is sent into the infantry and not the cavalry in the US Army after his graduation
>first real combat experience comes during his deployment in the Mexican American War
>in one famous episode, Grant ghost ride a horse through enemy fire and avoided being hit
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>>18515231
>unwillingly
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>>18515206
People make far too many excuses about him supposedly being blind to the corruption around him. As though Grant was a random jock dullard and not a politically savvy military man who had a long experience with grifters.
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>>18515537
One of the historical forces was the weakness of the presidents post Lincoln. it’s no surprise when stronger executives like McKinley and Roosevelt took over significant reforms began to finally take place. It reached the extent it did due to Congress failing to reign them in.
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>>18515527
>Grant's colleague Alexander Hays, who was killed in action in the Wilderness, marveled at his ability to get his supply train in Mexico through despite any obstacles.
>McClellan for contrast wrote his mother after coming home from Mexico that war was good for nothing and he hated it
that, folks, shows that their particular qualities as soldiers were apparent that early on
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>But this hard-riding soldier was a mere babe in the woods when it came to politics and he became a dupe for dozens of crooks, including several of his Dent in-laws who attached themselves to the public payroll With the notable exception of Secretary of State Hamilton Fish, all of Grant's Cabinet picks were useless at best, unabashed thieves at worst.[32]
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Reminder that Grant got elected in 1868 because of illiterate freedmen lined up at polling places to vote Republican while thousands of doctors, lawyers, judges, etc in the Southern states were barred from voting.
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>>18515824
Reminder that the South rebelled just a few years prior and received far more lenient treatment than they deserved. You can't complain about being denied the right to vote when you rebelled against the nation you're wanting to vote in and killed hundreds of thousands of your fellow countrymen.
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Chernow’s hagiography overcorrected Grant’s presidency into something it’s not with a huge mass of people.
His presidency was a very mixed bag despite some triumphs and personal courage (taking on the Klan and vetoing the Inflation Bill). I can’t get past his mindset that the elites of the era had the nation’s best interest at heart and could be trusted wholeheartedly with government power. Plus he couldn’t get around Sumner on annexing Santo Domingo which would have helped his legacy too.
That mindset led to the corruption and how people felt they could take advantage of him. Heck he didn’t even see the long game a silver baron that courted his spinster sister to corner the silver market was playing. That has to knock him down a peg or two. Plus he propped up his retard of a son that was the ringleader of clowns that bullied that first African American cadet out of West Point.
Great man with a good heart. But a mediocre president overall.
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>>18516063
Grant's suppression of the KKK is also exaggerated since few of them were ever brought to trial and the Klan gave way to other forms of racial terror that were probably worse. His first attorney general, oddly an ex-Confederate, was responsible heavily for using force to suppress the Klan, but this work was undone by Grant's Supreme Court appointees who applied a very narrow, constrained reading of the 14th Amendment.
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>>18516069
>His first attorney general, oddly an ex-Confederate, was responsible heavily for using force to suppress the Klan, but
Amos Akerman? He wasn't really a native Southerner, but a New Englander who moved down there as a young adult. After the war was over he reverted back to being the New Englander he always was.
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>>18516069
>but this work was undone by Grant's Supreme Court appointees who applied a very narrow, constrained reading of the 14th Amendment
The Waite Court had sound political instincts, they knew the country was tired of Reconstruction and wanted to be done with it.
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>>18515206
Ulysses Simpson Grant,
Who would scream and rave and rant...
While drinkin' whiskey, although risky,
Cause he'd spill it on his pants
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Why you think Grant relied so much on Sheridan? When you need a guy to kick the shit out of people, it takes an Irishman when your McClellan fanboy cuck generals ain't getting the job done.
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