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>>18516288
>well I didn’t physically put ships around your island chain I only sanctioned you and any outgoing trade from your partners so technically I didn’t blockade you despite it having the same outcome as a blockade
These geostrategic sleights of hand are why people have begun to hate Anglo-America. The White race as a whole is now paying for Angolem weasel wording and dishonesty.
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>>18516333
>I am going to pretend to not understand
90% of non-chud arguments are pretending not to understand something.
Be honest instead.
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>>18516362
I’m honestly kind of confused about this. It’s pretty normal for countries to refuse to sell other countries some or even all goods. Can you explain why Japan was entitled to purchase American products? I grasp the argument that Japan needed American oil and steel/iron to continue to expand their empire, but American refusal to participate in the Japanese expansion really can’t be treated as an act of aggression.
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>>18516376
Nobody sticks with their logic when it impacts them even a little. America made it very clear after the oil crises that it considers trying to use exports as leverage against it to be aggression and justification for open war on their part. And that was a completely insignificant amount of leverage compared to that brought to bear against Japan.
"I'm not touching you" never means anything when it starts effecting your bottom line.
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>>18516561
>Nobody sticks with their logic when it impacts them even a little
This
These sorts of oral stances that don't cost much are a result of an a posteriori rationalization of a behaviour. We think what we just done follows some sort of credo we follow but that's just our brain making sense of his whims hence why you should never trust anyone's words but instead their hormonal profile
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>>18516627
The United States made it clear they would do things like invade the gulf states and that they believed they had the right to do so if thats what it took for them to get their way with other country's exports.
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>>18516376
If America uses military force to impose a trade agreement with Japan, as they did, and makes Japan a dependent promising free trade, then restricts that trade in violation of treaties signed then this can be considered an act of hostility which justifies war.
Oh wait… that was America declaring on Britain in 1812.
The Americans set a precedent, you wage an economic war against us, we are justified to wage a physical war on you.
Japan was playing by the rules America itself laid out a century earlier.
>>18516401
>it’s pretty normal
No, it’s really not. Not at all. Global trade is a recent phenomena and states wielding the movement of commodities as a weapon is also very recent and few examples of it exist.
99% of all wars historically did not interrupt trade unless the conflict was occurring directly over a trade route, smugglers and blockade runners didn’t exist unless there was a siege or a blockade.
It can be treated as an act of aggression because America said it was an act of aggression when Britain did the same to America the previous century and America declared war on Britain over it.
So either America is wrong in 1812 or wrong in 1940.
“Rules for thee but not for me.” Is just typically how Anglo countries play. We see it all the time. Like today with Iran where King Golem is spinning art of the bullshitter to gain an edge in a losing war and its not working so now my country looks like we shit our pants.
Pure cynicism and practicality wielding diplomacy and economics, which are supposed to be free enterprises in a sort of nations gentleman’s agreement, as tools for personal gain.
Europeans are in Ukraine Killing Russians.
Yet Russia and Europe maintain a grudging trade agreement because they are, somehow, able to behave in ways more civil than that of America.
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>>18516572
Which is why Japan picked up weapons and fought for it, because they recognize, unlike retarded shitskins, organized violence is a legitimate means of obtaining something.
Japan did nothing which the United States hadn’t done before or since.
>>18516627
Yea well the United States did declare war on England over British trade restrictions, so fuck off. Nothing Japan did was some great crime, the rope you want to hang Japan with must first be taken from the neck of America.
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>>18516674
That was, again in the context of an actual war, AND threatening something is still not doing it.
>>18516701
>1812
Wut? The US was upset that the British were stopping American trade with France, not the British refusing to trade with America. Plus the British were abducting and enslaving American citizens to staff their navy. Nothing at all like 1940.
>russian attack on Ukraine
I don’t think there’s any civility between the civilized world and Russia. Especially since Russia regularly attacks Europe, and only the threat of a nuke fit really stays anyone’s hand. Well, that and they know how delicate Russia is and they don’t want the headache of cleaning up yet another Russian civil war or total societal collapse. Again, just not the same thing.
>anglos
Yah, the Iran war is kind of retarded and not really justified. Are you saying you support it?
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>>18516708
No they didn’t. Read the history of the conflict. The British were enslaving American citizens to crew their navy and attacking American shipping because the US was trading with France. Do you know what an embargo is, and what a blockade is?
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>>18516724
What do you mean by "the context of an actual war" and what do you think the signifigance of that is to this arguement. And yes threatening is actually a statement of the legitimacy of doing something in your eyes
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>>18516280
FAFO, as the kids say
all japan had to do was not be a murderous fascist state and they would've been fine.
why do militarists and ultranationalists always do this shit btw? they glorify conquest and might makes right thinking, then whine like faggots when they get their asses beat. shouldn't the US be completely right in their logic, since the US was stronger than japan?
the US was stronger than japan, took advantage of that fact, and got what they wanted. isn't that exactly how you argue the world should work???
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>>18516755
lol, no it doesn’t. Kissinger was butthurt about the U.S. economy being held hostage by a few million savages (his words) despite the US basically babysitting them. Military force was never used against the gulf states.
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>>18516280
Banker behind it everything...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuOd7GOtsz8
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>>18516769
Yes, they were butthurt about being "held hostage"(facing a small amount of pressure compared to Japan from the export policies of other countries) and made it clear they would use force to get their way with other countries export policies. You have admitted you're completely wrong.
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>>18516701
>It can be treated as an act of aggression because America said it was an act of aggression when Britain did the same to America the previous century and America declared war on Britain over it.
Except you are wrong since America didn't declare war over trade in 1812.
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>>18516810
Most people aren't as retarded as you. They can track what the actual criteria for you being proven wrong are even if you desperately invent new ones out of nowhere that don't follow from the entire prior arguement. You've already admitted you're wrong, regardless of whether you want to incoherently larp otherwise as a result.
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>>18516706
Killing and raping children is ontologically evil and a conditional embargo is the least that Japan desevered
>>18516708
> organized violence is a legitimate means of obtaining something.
No, that’s how blacks think which is why they riot and attack white people to steal their stuff. Unlimited access to white people and their resources is not a human right
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>>18516842
We're talking about what America believes. We've been arguing the point that every country believes the same general thing about this when it comes to their interests being impacted by the "export policies" of other countries
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>>18516362
>well I didn’t physically put ships around your island chain I only sanctioned you and any outgoing trade from your partners so technically I didn’t blockade you despite it having the same outcome as a blockade
Nonsense, the US only embargoed trade with US companies, (and even then, just steel and oil) Japan could still trade with everybody else.
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>>18516828
Yes they did. The origin of the war was in Britain’s restriction of American trade.
>>18516839
??? Niggers are literally the worst race at organized violence. I suppose Abos have them beat.
>>18516854
Killing and raping children is evil? According to who? To what?
It’s taking place across an ocean during wartime, it’s taking place in American government on Epstein island. If it’s in your control to prevent, prevent it, but escalating the situation by causing more suffering serves no one.
That is obvious.
You should know that.
>thats how blacks think
Nope. Blacks regularly decry organized violence and demand some kind of champion warfare larp.
>AYY NIGGA YOU AIN ENSLAVE ME YOU FINNA FITE ME NIGGA FITE ME NIGGA
They don’t realize that White armies smashed them, answering the question once and for all who deserved to be a slave who deserves to be free.
blacks are the most anti-organized violence people ever.
1. They’re always against the police which is the definition of organized violence in everyday life.
2. Blacks are terrible at organization.
3. Blacks are only violent against individuals or easy targets. Organized violence is the black Achilles’ heel.
>riot and attack White people
That isn’t organized, nigger.
They don’t have recognized IDs, recognized uniforms, or recognized command structures.
>access to White people is not a human right
True. Which is why when White people give you conditional access via treaties it’s highly unethical on the part of Whites to break that treaty like the British did to the United States.
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>>18516902
No they couldn’t. The U.S. was the largest market for steel and oil. If the U.S. has an embargo on Japan it means they’re preventing backchannel trading as well, which they did, which is basically a blockade in all but name.
Just be honest. You’re against Japan because they were anti-liberal Chuds and you’re a liberal.
>>18516896
They did, ape. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Interdicting American shipping due to trade restrictions was the stated cause of war.
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>>18516419
Nonwhites will never truly integrate into American society no matter how many generations they've spent here. They will always cling to this revanchist view of themselves as the last of some resistance group that is clawing it's way out of a major loss.
Yes that includes le heckin' high IQ wholesome chungus East Asians.
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>>18516967
His name is Wheely Mac Beely he was a cyborg in a flying wheel chair the allies built . Both captain America and iron man are based of him.
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>>18516953
Interdicting American shipping? They were abducting and enslaving American citizens.
> against japan because they were chuds
Oh. I’m conversing with a fascist. Okay. Japan was a weak, backward state that didn’t have the strength to oppose its betters. Your whining about morality is meaningless because the strong did what they could and the weak suffered what they must. The land of the rising sun saw two new suns rise over two of their cities, their false god bent the knee, and that is all that matters. Is that Anglo enough for you?
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>>18516902
>Japan could still trade with everybody else.
>>18516953
>No they couldn’t
Why are you even on this board?
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>>18517827
What is the schizophrenic narrative here? The implication is that the invasion of Poland was bad, but how does that jive with the Hitler did nothing wrong narrative? Thorazine should be mandatory for some of these people.
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>>18516949
nazis lost lmao
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>>18517827
It's funny how even in the Nazi arc Tatsuya is still a radfem anti-porn schizo at heart. The Jew is just the latest target for him to project his neuroses and guilt for touching his peepee, right after Johnbies, trannies, woke globalists or what have you. in the Tengu the Jew metaphor reaches it's absolute limit, the Jew turns into a literal mythological being, the facade cracks only to reveal... Le porn bad. The first thing the Tengu-Jew does in the comic is show porn to children.
This arc is in general very rich in batshit insane symbolism: Jewish Clockwork orange rape gang, communist rape camps and Lenin saying to "respect the big communist cock and tame the bourgeois cunt", communist Nick Fuentes (?!), communist incels killing Aryan Chads with a sickle for taking Stacey away, that Freemason mural with Death grabbing a girl by the braid etc etc. - dread it, run from it, it comes all the same.
It's probably a coincidence, but nonetheless a hilarious one, that Tatsuya seems obsessed with the Jewish ritual of kapparot - swinging around a chicken on the eve of Yom Kippur to atone for your sins. Because that's essentially what he does every time he picks up the pen - the strawman of the week is the proverbial chicken for him to swing. Every issue is his personal kapparot, his personal Yom Kippur, a festival of repentance and absolution of sins. A Sinfest, if you will.
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>>18516708
How exactly was attacking Pearl Harbor going to convince Americans to keep trading with Japan?
Even if you believe not trading with someone is an act of aggression this was completely retarded decision that was never going to achieve what they wanted.
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>>18516280
They fucked with Chinamen that had been earmarked for Protestant Wololo.
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>>18516740
>all japan had to do was not be a murderous fascist state and they would've been fine.
They were deeply anti-religious during this period, which got in the way of Protestant foreskins prospecting operations in China and Korea.
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>>18517937
Protestant China missionaries were the ones making the most noise about Japan's mess, also Japan, at that point, was actively persecuting all organized religions except State Shinto, which put a dent into Protestant foreskin harvesting operations all across the emerging Co-Prosperity Sphere.
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>>18517855
>communist Nick Fuentes
He’s praised Stalin on his show for years and it’s one of the few topics he’ll actually start talking about when super chat donators ask him to rather than do a weird findom bit where he berates them like he does with most of his donations.