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Is it just Indian Muslims? Why are there so many groups who don't originate in India there? Are the Balochi separatists right? How did their demographics come to be?
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>>18516703
There's no such thing as an Indian or Pakistani. A punjabi resembles a ''light-skinned'' northern jeet more than a northern jeet resembles a fellow indian from the south. And in pakistan you also have a bunch of distinct ethnic groups like pashtuns and balochis that are not present in india and should be part of afghanistan
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>>18516758
multiple small kingdoms/republics were split and combined to create pakistan
the indian muslims across the subcontinent basically chimped out and demanded their own clay. the british decided to support them out of fear of a fuckton of violence and also the long term goal of having pakistan in their pocket as a possible tool against india. the violence happened anyway. the muslims used a resettlement policy to quickly build their population in contested regions/force out non-muslims.
pakistan's entire identity is based on being !Indian. they only do things because india does it or wants it and they wish to get in the way. so you have pakis who claim that they are really turks or european or aryan or whatever. but they'll also claim pakistan is the "true" india and the inheritor of the IVC. it's basically the indian version of kangz.
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>>18516774
>A [indian] resembles a ''light-skinned'' [indian] more than a [indian] resembles a fellow indian from [india]. And in [india] you also have a bunch of distinct ethnic groups like [indians] and [indians] that are not present in india and should be part of [india]
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>>18516797
Were the Indian groups people who migrated during the 1940s or did they always exist there? I don't really know much about this country and Pakistanis hate it if you call them Indian which I can only assume stems from some sort of racial belief and not religious given how Muslims in India are a distinct community as well.
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>>18516812
>Were the Indian groups people who migrated during the 1940s or did they always exist there?
mostly people who had been there but some people did leave india to settle in pakistan among other indian muslims
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>>18516703
>Is it just Indian Muslims? Why are there so many groups who don't originate in India there?
Pakistan is the frontier/hinterland of the Indian subcontinent. The west of the country (Punjabi/Sindh) is very Indian in character, Sindh has millions of Hindus. The further east you go, the more Iranian it becomes. After 1947 there was an influx of Punjabis and smaller numbers of other Muslim groups (from the Gangetic Plains, which was the core of Indian Islam before Partition).
>Are the Balochi separatists right?
Pakistan has a major Punjabi chauvinism problem, and the other parts of Pakistan are more-or-less economically exploited to boost Punjab's wealth/living standards. This exploitation is especially intense in Balochistan, which remains one of the poorest parts of the country despite natural resources and Chinese investment. So from that angle they have a point. That said it's basically certain that India supports these separatist groups.
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>>18516832
>The west of the country (Punjabi/Sindh) is very Indian in character, Sindh has millions of Hindus. The further east you go, the more Iranian it becomes.
Please excuse my retardation, and swap "west" and "east". Punjab and Sindh are in the east of the country and are more Indian in nature. Balochistan and KPK are more Iranian.
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>>18516832
I heard about that problem. I know that the Balochi areas have a direct pathway to western China. Are most of the Pakistani immigrants in the UK and other parts of the world mostly from the Punjab areas or mostly refugees from the lesser developed areas? A lot of the Pakistanis I know hate India so it'd be surprising if they're the former.
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>>18516876
>Are most of the Pakistani immigrants in the UK and other parts of the world mostly from the Punjab areas or mostly refugees from the lesser developed areas?
Punjabi, just like all the Sikhs in the UK and Canada as well
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East of the Indus has historically been heavily influenced by Iranic cultures and Steppe cultures. The further north you go the more of the Steppe culture mix shows, and Down south it's more iranic. On the east side of the Indus it starts getting more mixed with Indus civilisation. There are hundreds of tribes though 'Pakistani' is a made up ethnicity -
P - Punjab
A - Afghania
K - Kashmir
S - Sindh
Stan - Balochistan
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>>18516703
For centuries there was a Muslim aristocracy ruling atop Hindu vassal kings and priests. There were Indianised, but also in their own world being Persiaboos while everyone else spoke the local venancular.
We fast forward hundreds of years, the collapse of a continent-spanning Imperial authority has led to multiple feudal states and the British are conquering or making them kneel one by one. They even end up biting off bits of Iran.
Fast forward hundreds of years to British rule and the Muslim elites and other Muslims started wondering if their voices would be drowned out in a one-man, one-vote country leaning majority Hindu. The Northwest Majority muslim regions were split off into their own country, which included Balochs and other Tribes.