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One thing I noticed while studying the Indo-European world is how India and Ireland, both medieval and probably Iron Age, had many very specific parallels. Was this due to both being at the "extremes" of the Aryan world? (Kino, if you ask me)

Something that catches my attention is the relationship between autism and autistic obsession with chariots, and how both societies are very dependent on pastoralism and use it as a symbol of status and social differentiation.
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>>18517255
Mleccha we wuzin
No. That's cultural appropriation. India has nothing to do with your Judaized country. All these similarities are better explained when Sarmatians educated Europeans in the Middle Ages. There are no similarities with India in any way.
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>>18517255
Yes. I don't know if it was about isolation or what, but perhaps because both were relatively conservative in maintaining the Pietà culture. If you asked me what Yamnaya or Corded Ware society was like, I could simply show you a mixture of Vedic India and Ireland. Social order in early Irish society: The King, deriving sovereignty from his divine lineage and symbolic marriage to the land, rules over the tuath: free (Aire) persons organized into 3 general castes: warrior, priest-poet, and husbandman.
>>18517261
At first I thought you were trolling, but you're not. You're actually a Hindu nationalist, and I found your xiiter profile and you're even taking screenshots of us here to make fun of us there kek You're a loser and you know it. This offends you personally.
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>>18517261
Take your meds schizo.
Are you just going to cry every time someone invokes mainstream historical narratives involving Indo-Europeans?

Why don't you take it up with archaeologists, geneticists, linguists, and historians? Why don't you just write angry letters to all of academia?
Your delusions will not be entertained.
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>>18517278
Why do pretend to be someone else? Has you seen how many threads have been made this month about India? And is of them containing some Nazi confirmation bias about
>we wuz indianz saar
You're the ones who are obsesed. "Indo-Europeans" are viewed with caution today. Indo-Iranians have nothing to do with Irish people, why do you want to be Indians? Why did India never have its own culture? Serious archaeologists have already refuted the steppe hypothesis
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>>18517287
>>18517261
Stop ruining the thread, you bastard.
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Heroic poetry, very Indo-European, is far too neglected!

Even as late as the Middle Ages, there existed in Ireland a hereditary class of poets. And it was hereditary. A reconstructible feature of Indo-European society is the freestyle slam poetry competitions, preserved in Ireland and India.
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>>18517287
>Why do pretend to be someone else?
Take your meds. Who is doing that?

>"Indo-Europeans" are viewed with caution today.
Absolutely not. Maybe this is a common fantasy in India.

>Serious archaeologists have already refuted the steppe hypothesis
Absolutely not. David Reich, et al. would like a word with you.
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>>18517287
ESL
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>>18517255
>India
This policy should be applied to all indians that travel abroad.
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Something curious: there were common restrictions between Vedic and Latin priests. Mere coincidence? I don't think so.
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>>18517278
>I don't know if it was about isolation or what
I can identify a few factors:
Both the Irish and Proto-Indo-Iranians continued a pastoral way of life.
Both Ireland and the eastern steppe are pretty isolated.
Both the Irish and PIIs maintained high steppe ancestry for an extended period of time.
Both the Irish and PIIs maintained a bardic culture which transmitted mythology through the ages.
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>>18517261
>Mleccha
It’s first found in the Shatapatha Brahmana (700 BC) as a term for foreigner - doesn’t appear in the Vedas. The Vedic word would be Anarya/non-Aryan. when India was already 100% taken over by Dasyunism
PIE would have had something similar. ‘Natta Ara’ is the Hittite equivalent.
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>>18517314
Based
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>>18517255
Lithuanian being more similar to Vedic Sanskrit than its descendants like Hindi or Urdu is so... saar what now?¿°
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>>18517261
>>18517255
He's not wrong. Iranic Sarmatians brought the concept of 'knight' culture from the steppe. They were hired by the roman legion as their heavy cavalry and their main weapons were the Lance and Sword on a warhorse (Completely alien to Celtic/romano war tactics). Their banner was the dragon or Draco. 5000 Sarmatians were deployed to Roman Britain in the 2nd century under a commander 'Lucius Artorius Castus'. Sarmatians lore even had the basis for the King Arthur myth and their modern ancestors, the Ossetians in the caucus still have these beliefs despite being 10s of thousands of km from Britain. The French also had their owns sect of Sarmatians, the Alans, which can be seen in the many towns and areas with Alan in the name or the common Alan, or Alain name. Catalonia also arguably got its name from Goth-Alania as the Goths and Alans also went into Iberia and North Africa
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H2éwsōs in Proto-Indo-European - her Vedic descendant, Ushas, has a title etymologically linked to Brigit (bṛhátī = high, lofty)
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>>18517255
Whatever religion of the Druids was, it was transmitted orally and was probably surprisingly sophisticated.
According to Julius Caesar:
>It is reported that they learn by heart a great number of verses in the schools of the Druids, and therefore some persons remain twenty years in training. They think it is not appropriate to write these oral teachings down, although in almost all other matters – both public and private accounts – they make use of Greek letters. I believe that they have adopted this practice for two reasons: they do not wish the teaching to become common knowledge and they do not want those who learn the teaching to rely on writing and, as a result, lose their skills in memorization. In fact, it does usually happen that reliance on writing tends to lessen the diligence of the student and ability to memorize.
This is one of the reasons to believe they were a Celtic parallel to Brahmins of India and Magi of Persia and they were transmitting lengthy stories like the Rigveda. It’s very disappointing we will never get to read or hear a Druidic epic.
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>>18517343
Based, again.
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None of you showed me Sintashta chariots or "Indo-European" kurgans in India. LOL there's no archaeological evidence.
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>>18517340
> In contrast, the broader Sarmatian confederation is thought to have called themselves Arii-tai ('Aryans'), a term preserved in modern Ossetian as Irættæ ('the Aryans', also the ethnonym underlying Iron, the main Ossetian subgroup).
> The Jász (Latin: Jazones) are an Iranian ethnic group of Eastern Iranic descent who have lived in Hungary since the 13th century. They live mostly in a region known as Jászság, which comprises the north-western part of Jász-Nagykun-Szolnok county. They are sometimes known in English by the exonym Jassic and are also known by the endonyms Iasi and Jassy. They originated as a nomadic Alanic people from the Pontic steppe
> The Jász (Latin: Jazones) are an Iranian ethnic group of Eastern Iranic descent who have lived in Hungary since the 13th century. They live mostly in a region known as Jászság, which comprises the north-western part of Jász-Nagykun-Szolnok county. They are sometimes known in English by the exonym Jassic and are also known by the endonyms Iasi and Jassy. They originated as a nomadic Alanic people from the Pontic steppe
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>>18517349
Make a thread about it instead of getting mad when someone wants to make cultural comparisons.
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>>18517352
> Now there was a nation of the Alans, which we have formerly mentioned somewhere as being Scythians, and living around Tanais and Lake Maeotis. This nation about this time laid a design of falling upon Media, and the parts beyond it, in order to plunder them; with which intention they treated with the king of Hyrcania; for he was master of that passage which king Alexander shut up with iron gates. This king gave them leave to come through them; so they came in great multitudes, and fell upon the Medes unexpectedly, and plundered their country, which they found full of people, and replenished with abundance of cattle, while nobody dared make any resistance against them; for Pacorus, the king of the country, had fled away for fear into places where they could not easily come at him, and had yielded up everything he had to them, and had only saved his wife and his concubines from them, and that with difficulty also, after they had been made captives, by giving a hundred talents for their ransom. These Alans therefore plundered the country without opposition, and with great ease, and proceeded as far as Armenia, laying waste all before them. Now, Tiridates was king of that country, who met them and fought them but was lucky not to have been taken alive in the battle; for a certain man threw a noose over him and would soon have drawn him in, had he not immediately cut the cord with his sword and escaped. So the Alans, being still more provoked by this sight, laid waste the country, and drove a great multitude of the men, and a great quantity of the other booty from both kingdoms, along with them, and then retreated back to their own country.
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>>18517349
I already replied to you and we already discussed chariots in thr thread you refused to read, you just insulted me, remember? Here's a screenshot for you to remember. And about kurgans, although there are no examples of "Vedic archaeological sites" in India containing kurgans, the RV that you supposedly read and know more about than all of us, ironically contains a reference to something very similar to a kurgan
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>>18517343
>>18517346
Given how similar they were to the Magi and Brahmins, I am convinced that the Druids probably had their own liturgical tongue dating back to the Bronze Age that they recorded their theology and mythology in (which for the sake of convenience we can just call “Old Celtic”). Obviously we don’t have any physical proof of its existence, but I think it’s plausible given that the Magi and Brahmins had their own liturgical tongues dating back to the Bronze Age, Avestan and Sanskrit respectively.
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Now we know the Scythians or Saka (who the Sarmatians neighboured) Invaded north India / Pakistan and established kingdoms for hundreds of years.
> Jats, Rajputs, Gujjars, and specific Pashtun Tribes (Sakzai, Durrani, Kakar) all claim descent from the Saka or Scythians. The region Sistan also comes from the word sakastan.
Pic rel. a Gujjar person, notice the red beard
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>>18517352
How does this relate to Ireland?
> The claim is officially laid out in the Lebor Gabála Érenn (The Book of the Taking of Ireland, or The Book of Invasions), a sweeping semi-mythological history compiled by Christian monks in the 11th century to construct a grand origin story for the Irish people.
According to the text, the story unfolds over thousands of years:
The Ancestor: The lineage begins with Féinius Farsaid, a legendary king of Scythia. He was an exceptionally wise ruler who traveled to the Tower of Babel after its collapse.
Creating the Language: Féinius and his scholars studied the confused jumble of languages at Babel. They selected the best parts of all of them to engineer a brand-new, perfect, and poetic tongue: Gaeilge (Irish).
The Egyptian Connection: Féinius’s son, Niul, married Scota, the daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh. Their descendants became known as the Scotti (named after Scota) and the Gaels (named after Niul's son, Gaedel Glas).
The Long Migration: Expelled from Egypt, this Scythian-Egyptian lineage wandered the Mediterranean for generations—migrating through North Africa and into Spain—before finally sailing north to conquer Ireland from the mythical Tuatha Dé Danann.

The link becomes obvious when all cultures that claim 'descent' from Scythian/Saka tribes have a high prevalence of orange/red hair
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>>18517371
You can see West Eurasian admixture (as expected) but not much else. There is no red beard in these photos. That is a dye.

Obviously they still have Sintashta and Scythian admixture if that's what studies say.
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>>18517361
https://www.academia.edu/86219327/Steppe_burial_rites_and_the_building_of_a_Kurgan_in_the_Atharvaveda_The_Funeral_Ceremony_described_in_the_13th_Anuv%C4%81ka_of_the_Mahatk%C4%81%E1%B9%87%E1%B8%8Da_K%C4%81%E1%B9%87%E1%B8%8Da_18_of_the_Paippal%C4%81da_Sa%E1%B9%81hit%C4%81
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Spammer off topic
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>>18517384
its not a dye. You can find at least 12 different tribes descending from different stages of Indo European migrations throughout india pakistan and Afghanistan that migrated 1000s of years apart yet still share the common hair colour. Some of them dont speak the same language and some are still pagan.

Pic rel is a kalash person (also known as nuristani) who literally still practice the 2000bc Indo European pagan religion
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>>18517366
Plausible
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>>18517389
So, yes, they had "kurgans"
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>>18517394
>its not a dye.
what the fuck am I looking at then? That is not a natural red.
I've never seen this shade of bright red on untreated hair.
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>>18517394
it's obviously dyed you spaz, can't you see the roots?
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I'm sorry OP, the vultures are already circling your thread which is already dead. The thread was about Vedic and Irish texts and now people are barking about Egypt and Scythians
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>>18517404
You think 12+ different Muslim/Ancient pagan tribes happen to be dying their hair all the same colour 1000's of km's apart, when some of their villages dont even have power?

Its an ancient steppe phenotype that's extremely rare because its been drowned out in most places
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>>18517409
No you are a spazz. The OP asked about the parallels of Ireland and India. They were both ruled by the scythians according to ancient historians. Whether we in the modern times want to believe this is up to us, but you can clearly see a distinct redhead phenotype in both places despite being 10,000 km apart
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Manu's laws are very similar to Brehon Law.
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>>18517411
>You think 12+ different Muslim/Ancient pagan tribes happen to be dying their hair
Yes, it's popular with towel heads and their neighbors. Do you have a form of color blindness or schizophrenia? Which is it?
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>>18517414
OP here, Get out of here, demon!
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>>18517418
I mean I went to school with North Indians who had red hair despite being Sikh. Their families migrated from Jammu Kashmir in 1880 and have lived isolated in Australia for over 120 years only having arranged marriages. there were at least 5 kids with this dark red/orangey hair and they 100% didn't dye it.
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>>18517255
Did they have the same caste system isn't?
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>>18517424
>I mean I went to school with North Indians who had red hair despite being Sikh.
I mean, maybe you did, but I grew up seeing actual gingers and not North Indians. You should have taken pictures of them or asked if they dyed their hair.

Are you saying they get a super special shade of red not seen in White people?
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>>18517432
You do see that shade in white people, but it's usually not people from the British Isles but it's definitely less common. We used to call them Ranga Indians at school.

It's not hard to find videos of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDodPBLpxQc 2 seconds in and the first dude has the red beard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYoXZnXTkJc
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>>18517416
The interesting thing is that the author of this booklet came to a strange conclusion:
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>>18517461
Nazis btfo
Your own sources debunked your claims
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>>18517442
It's henna
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>>18517463
>Nazis
What are you talking about schizo?
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>>18517461
The publication is from 2006. Even then you still had people who were skeptical of Indian and European cultural parallels in the face of good comparative evidence. The recent genetics revolution has given many additional confidence so they don't have to shy away from surprising results in their research.
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>irish: we was Indian n sheet
why are micks like this

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