I always feel a little sad when I discover that most of an artist's gallery consists of commissions. On the other hand, I understand why that is. It would be the same for me, but most of the commissions I do are private.
To be honest, I'm a little tired of doing commissions, but my family and I need the money.

>>7891559
I can't figure out how those painters during the nineteenth century can layer glazes right.

>>7891559
as a certified /int/, genuinely how do you start doing commisions? i dont have any social media and just want to be able to make a few bucks on the side. How do you do it?

>>7891586
I don't know if my case is comparable to others', but
>I've been uploading my stuff online for years
>I've always been into in weird shit, so I accidentally found my niche
>once I felt relatively comfortable with my skill level, I submitted a comic to an adult website in my niche that publishes comics
>I created numerous comics for them, and through that and my regular artwork, I became relatively well-known in my niche
>people started sending me emails asking if I take commissions
>unfortunately, since I didn't know about that, I ended up charging too little
>someone who really likes my artwork decided to create their own adult website focused on publishing comics and illustrations
>he became my "whale" and I've been working with him for years
Honestly, I think this is the long way to get commissions. The right way is to get followers by publishing your own artwork online. Once you have enough followers, you can start taking commissions.

>portrait ratio for international standard paper (~0.7:1) is smaller than the permitted instagram portrait ratio (0.75:1, AKA 3:4)
this is fucking stupid

im so fucking tired. drawing never gets easier or faster. Its always hours and hour of drawing no matter how good you are. Even if I magically became ten times better than I am now, I'd still be drawing for hours trying to punch above my weight because I can't just half ass something.

>>7891631
What else would you do if not drawing? Im lucky because i really have nithing better to do

>>7891640
just doomscrolling, so this is better I guess

>>7891631
That's why people say "Learn to love the process" because what you're doing now- even though you may be doing it wrong- is what you're going to be doing for the rest of your life. For me I do love it, but my stamina is absolutely trash. I can go 30 mins to an hour pure drawing before I get fatigued and the rest of my life is so shitty I have some bad vices that really sucks up all of my time+energy.

>>7891631
>>7891679
You are never going to make it a career with how you're treating art, it's not going to get easier, in fact it'll get a lot harder if you feel shitty the whole way

>>7891709
> feel shitty the whole way

By no means I feel shitty while doing art, it's the most fun part of my day and I constantly want to do it. I haven't been treating MYSELF well and it's affecting my art stamina

>>7891580
I read that monet had to study the science behind light to paint it.

>>7891679
People who love the process are also people who can draw really well tho. If everything you draw looks great then I also would love to do it, but when you are constantly struggling and your drawings turn out mediocre anyway, then it's difficult to love it.

I do like working with pencils tho. It's fun working with sharp and precise tools.

What do you do when you are too sick to draw?

>>7891825
Reading books, watching movies for inspirations.

>>7891818
Why are you people all so fucking neurotic and retarded?

this time I'm only 24 hours late

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How do you finish a piece you really really don't want to work on but you have to?

>>7892142
I guess that's where having a good plan and routine comes in handy. If you know what to do to make everything look good, then you just do it again

routine only works on sub 80 retards. Actual intelligent people will constantly be arguing with their own brain to do anything, because we need to be convinced of everything. Just doing something without thinking is out of the question.

>>7892197
I never said anything about not thinking. Of course good artists treat every page as a new challenge but they still have their routines and tricks. They have a reliable and effective process they mostly follow.

>>7892197
I thought like this for a long time but more and more I feel like relying on spontaneity has been a hindrance overall for my life. Having a weekly routine with priorities sounds nice now

>>7892197
> Actual intelligent people will constantly be arguing with their own brain to do anything
Couldn't be me.
It was costly (as in waiting for the right methods to click), but slowly developing an "objective" way to handle just about every single possible consideration when making a piece was the best decision I made over 5 years of drawing.
No more questioning how I would approach perspective, color/light in a finished piece, or coming up with a design. It's just a matter of if it will meet my current standards now.

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>>7891541
the fuck is this thread image? fucking bitch looks like megamind. lmao

I just dont see myself drawing today, I know instantly when I wake up if its a good day to draw or not.

>>7892270
Those head models are so useless.

Its a bit worrying that artist can shit out stuff on the daily and I take like a week on a doodle that looks half as good.
Feels like I cannot even compete, also the trend chasing is something I do not like, but social media is like that.
I tell myself that artists with 700k followers dont really get 700k commission requests.

>>7892197
>Actual intelligent people will constantly be arguing with their own brain to do anything
Erm actually you might just be even more retarded. People can argue themselves into never leaving the house or doing anything unique, its also well known that procrastinators will think of a billion reasons as to reasonably justify their laziness.

...*Smart* people are more often go-getters who are impulsively collecting and utilizing information readily; in this situation it would be actually FUCKING DRAWING ROUTINELY OUT OF COMPULSIVE CREATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING YOU LAZY FUCKING PSEUD LIKE >>7892269 HAS FIGURED OUT

>draw fetish commission today?
>or draw something purely for fun?
can't pick both, have to pick one. And I pick commission every time.
Now I have money, but I hate drawing.
If I draw something for fun, thats like gaming right after work, in no time I have to go back.

Turns out artists really are dumb. They don't question anything and always think of being justified at all times. I wish I could be that dumb on demand.

>>7892396
Yeah I'm pretty stupid

>>7891818
Everyone has to suck ass before they git gud, and it takes way longer than anyone thinks it should, otherwise everyone'd be an artist

>>7892436
I never affirmed the opposite... some people learn faster tho.... some people also have depression and cant even teally concentrate...

My work pace has slowed down lately. I think it's partly because I get distracted easily now. I wanted to work with a couple of clients that I've kept waiting for months (or maybe more than a year) to get rid of them and then open up commissions to the public, but my main client keeps me so busy that I work practically every day, most of the day. Yesterday, he asked me again to continue a series that I dislike, and I was tempted to contact one of those pending clients to get rid of him, but I'm not sure if I can handle so much work at once (I'm sure he'll ask me for a comic of at least three pages).

>>7892481
nsfw stuff?
either way it's cool to hear about life with clients as a commission artist

>>7892481
I have no clients and no comissions. I'm poor as a church mouse but I can paint what I want. That's all that matters to me

>>7892525
>nsfw stuff?
Yes, it's that kind of stuff. Sorry if I sound too whiny. I don't have many people to talk to about these things.
>>7892561
That's a good choice. I would do the same, but my family needs the money.

>>7892723
I wasn't being sarcastic. I'm more like >>7892561 by choice but I still like to hear casual stuff about self-employed artists. That's why we're here.
Though yeah I'm sure your situation is other people's dreams on /ic/.

I want to draw but I know its going to be 3 hours of intense work AT LEAST and if I start right now then my entire afternoon will be eaten up so I doomscroll isntead and savor every minute of it so it feels longer

>go on Artstation for the first time
>everybody's works are inspired from history this or media that
I really need to expand on my visual catalogue. Between drawing and video games I don't have much to pull from that's not recursive reference.

commissions make me want to kill myself, I'm spending hours drawing demented shit that only one person is ever going to see. But that's not even what I hate about it, its the fact that I'm too tired to draw for myself after. So my socials rot and fall off the algorithm because I HAVE NOTHING TO POST

>>7893051
Can't you post the comission? That's what many artists do I think.

>>7893056
no because I'm trying to have a normal persona online

just farted really hard

lol all these commission haters. This is why you just get a day job, then 100% of your art time is yours.
Doing commissions is basically OnlyFans for artists.

>>7893071
>>7893058
Couldn't you try to make a commission model where you just loosely have to follow commissioner instructions?
Like for example: draw a girl in this pose, or draw a girl with a certain hairstyle, or draw a picture with 3 girls or more, or draw a picture with girl + guy, etc

Just vague descriptions, so that you still have a bit of freedom to draw how you want?

>>7893078
I'm not that anon, but personally, I prefer the opposite. I have very specific tastes, so I dislike trying to understand other people's fetishes and fantasies. This is especially annoying when it comes to comics because you have to take their word salad and turn it into a decent script.
On the other hand, working with picky people is also unpleasant. I remember a couple who made me redraw a stupid illustration more than ten times, even though the drawing was almost finished. I'm glad I told them that I don't plan to work with them again until I publicly open commissions.

I just had the biggest ‘oh shit’ epiphany in my studies that will propel me out of low /int/ hell. forever.

>>7893071
doing commissions is like being a full time porn star and when you come home you're too tired and sick of pussy to fuck your wife and start a family.

I need to stop using so much paint and more water in watercolors
not only is it a waste; I make the paintings look like gouache T○T

>>7893308
I definitely want to try some oil paints some day. Currently I use acrylics, and they are great, but oil is probably still the best

Is this board slower now compared to 5 months earlier or so?

>>7893353
Have you been finding yourself with more free time now that there's less opportunity to shitpost? Who gives a shit. Fast garbage, slow garbage, it's all garbage.

>>7891559
My art gets so little traction that I'm reaching a point where I don't think it is worth bothering to post my original ideas. Besides, I'll pour hours into making something of my own ideation that I know looks great, only for it to get like 100 likes on xitter, while some mediocre commission I drew and was almost too embarrassed to even post winds up getting a few thousand likes. It's not worth the personal anguish to spend uncompensated time drawing something you want to draw, posting it for the world to see, and it getting the reception of a wet fart, when you can get paid to draw something that, even if it flops, at least helped buy a videogame.

I feel like im on the verge of being good/appealing but that I'm too lazy/retarded to unlock the last part of making the drawing good. It's probably just delusional thinking tho

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>like to watch Plex while I draw
>Stream content from my computer to my TV via wifi
>Like to browse Suwayomi while I draw
>It's good to have ref, inspo, art books etc.
>Can't browse Suwayomi without VPN due to gayass police state regulations blocking sources...
>No problem I can toggle the VPN on
>Plex server now doesn't work with the VPN on so my library is unavailable on the TV
>No problem I can toggle the VPN off
>Can't browse Suwayomi without VPN due to gayass police state regulations blocking sources...
I used to have such a cushy set up.
Everything just worked together.
I can view those sources via Tor in a browser window
Or play Plex directly on my PC from another screen without connecting via wifi
But it's just not the same..
One stupid little law that's so easy to ignore it's a joke, merely exists as a way to inconvenience the way I draw. It's totally ineffective at hindering my Internet access aside from this one extremely specific and incredibly granular detail

>>7893614
I know that feel. I think at that stage it depends a lot on really making sure to polish enough, especially in the sketching phase. You have to make sure that the sketch really looks acceptable and not rush things too much. If you already know what to do, then it's just a matter of patience and how much effort you put into it.

>>7893614
Good/appealing is a designation from others

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Holy shit water colouring makes me wanna kill myself. Everything feel so 'fragile' compared to acrylics. I can barely blend colours at all.

I think I know more today than I did yesterday and to me, that is a victory

>>7894113
Yea, me too. I just always feel like I should have known it 20 years ago already, but better now then never.

>>7894128
Even if you do learn something later, you can take solace that you're unlikely to ever be behind, many people learn just enough to be a professional and then their development stops, not because they hit a mental limit but more because it's unlikely you will ever need to learn more then they just work for decades until they retire. It's not an excuse to slack off, however.

Drawing correct anatomy is so ass bro, I hate this shit.
And its not even a guarantee that people will like my work either, a fucking shitpost I made in 2 hours has more engagement and likes than something I spent a week on, on Pixiv, I dont even want to talk about Twitter. This sucks.

>>7893353
Pedogeneral fags stopped fighting for 1000's of post across several generals.

>>7893907
kek, switching mediums always pisses me off so fucking much until i get the hang of it. all your muscle memory is worthless at best and actively working against you at worst

You can't just draw anything if you're talentless. You have to grind sketches and ideas until you finally get one that has appeal. And then you have to polish it without ruining it. If I was good, I'd just draw whatever, but I'm not so I have to be fake /int/ by carefully choosing what I draw.

>>7894261
Even pro artists can produce turds, they just aren't as obviously turd-y as a low-int's turds, so they just share more of them anyway. There's nothing wrong with being selective about what you finish, and thumbnailing or even full-on roughing out ideas before picking one to complete is an accepted practice.

>get a new follower on Pixiv
>the follower has a profile image
>the follower only follows a few hundred (or fewer) people
Oh look I actually got a follower qho might not be entirely braindead, maybe even a future commis-
>their bookmarks are 90% AIslop
Welp

>>7891541
i have a lot of free time and not a lot of responsibilities, but i still don't have the willpower or energy to sit at my computer and do nothing but draw for 8 hours in a single day. it makes me feel bad psychologically to do nothing but draw, eat, and sleep. i end up missing the sunshine and use of my legs. i'm trying to avoid burnout so i set small daily goals for myself and i'm getting projects done at least.

i've been struggling to maintain a commission schedule (for other artists) because i keep blowing all of my money on one artist who writes back very infrequently. i only ever have enough money for one commission per month or two, but i've been meaning to buy some non-spaceship art, but i never get around to it. i have a little less than four weeks until i have disposable cash again. not sure what i'm gonna get, but i have an idea.

i currently have a mild stomach bug and i've been blasting black liquid out my butt. must have been the chinese food. yesterday was my sister's birthday but she's not even here right now. i've been a bit depressed lately.

>>7894328
>i currently have a mild stomach bug and i've been blasting black liquid
>black liquid shit
Unironically go to the ER. Black stool is a sign of serious internal bleeding.

Genuinely can't get myself to commit to drawing regularly. Part of it is in aversion to failure, part of it in reduced attention span, part in good old honest laziness. Yet I can't drop the idea of drawing either. But it's also tied to a bit of an all-or-nothing mentality - if I can't get a good session of at least a couple hours long, I might as well not start anything. As you can imagine, nothing gets done like that. It's not really something that should be asked here, I suppose, since the issue runs deeper than just with art, but I really don't know what to do about it.

>>7894452
This is how I feel about most of my hobbies.

so did you draw while 4chan was down?

I've been fucking possessed this past month or so and just drawing almost non-stop in any moment of free time. Today I finally went tools down. Cleaned the whole house, I'm halfway through vacuuming, gonna mow the lawn later. It's amazing how much crud can build up in a few weeks of single-minded focus, but the atmosphere is already feeling so much better.

>>7894716
Update, I really should have mowed the lawn BEFORE vacuuming.

>I'm gonna draw so much tonight!
>spent one solid hour just drawing a hat
how did the old masters not kill themselves doing this?

>>7894753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ducG55pfCMQ

i'm done with the random doodling. everything from here on out is NOT going to be from imagination. i'm going to read drawing on the right side of the brain and then start drawing from reference. I'm going to start recreating manga panels daily. I'm going to do gesture drawing in the morning and a study before bed. I will find some anatomy books and start applying what I learn.

I WILL IMPROVE

>>7893907
watercolor is the most stressful medium

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>do one sketch as a practical application of my theory learning and studies
>turns up solid enough, decide to take a break 15-30 minute break before doing another
>break ends up being several hours and effectively ends my drawing for the day
this happens half the time. I really need to start a fun project.

>ready to reply to bait
>wait what am i doing this is retarded
>delete and go stare at titties

nobody on this board is happy. if you're here, its because you're frustrated with drawing. And if you draw, its beacuse your life is fucked up and you can't express yourself through normal channels like social interaction or family. So everyone here has a shitty life AND they are fed up with drawing.

>>7895340
there's no space in the water cooler room for a projector, anon.

I do nothing all day but I have no time to draw

even a kind of sketchy imagined simply-colored draw of a dynamic scene with props, fun storytelling elements, comp, in-spec expressive body languages and in-spec complexly designed uniquely emotive characters physically interacting in the wind etc. takes more time than i considered it’d take, even though i’m a lightspeed fast sketcher and do this a lot.
maybe that doesn’t sound very simple, but it felt uncomplicated in my head when i decided to sketch it rly fast in an in-between moment.
drawing takes so much time, especially if you’re bringing fully realized imagined scenes to a finish without any aids. i sort of marvel a little sometimes. just thinking aloud.

>>7895340
I couldn't even express the things I draw with words. Drawing is a much more effective form of expression.

proud of myself for drawing almost every day this year so far. frustrated that you can know the theory but you still have to figure it all out on your own terms and train your mind/hand. and there’s so much i want to do

I couldn't quit coffee. It was three straight weeks of feeling miserable and continually deteriorating sleep with no motivation to draw. The hardest drug to quit for me. I caved and had one in the morning and felt back to myself all day and had a full night's sleep. I guess I'll stick to one on my break at work for now.

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I really tried drawing today, but I'm unironically too sleep deprived and tired to do it.

>>7895340
Didn't know we were setting up a projector for a movie in here.

It's hard to draw when noone gives a shit about your drawings anyway

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>just saw that one of my long-time inspirations, an actual pro working for shit like Marvel, liked my art

If someone from Marvel liked my art I would burn all of it.

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>>7892197

>tfw to intelligent to be successful

you're a midwit in love with your mediocre level of complexity, and too stupid to not care about how sophomoric your complexity is.

low IQ and high IQ function the same. routines are optimal.

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>>7892197
>anon says a thing which is true
>all the low iq monkeys come out to insult
i am constantly second guessing myself because what is even the point of really getting good and not using that skill to pursue anything because it will only make me end up being surrounded by fucking normies who will have an aneurysm the instant anyone indirectly makes them feel insecure about their own mediocrity or make them question their own dogma, just by being articulate and using words to describe things that aren't extreme absolutes hence force them to think critically about a concept thus triggering their brains into going into a fight of flight response?
Look at this fucking thread. Absolute fucking human trash that doesn't even realize why no one wants to deal with their normie asses.

So i just end up doodling and drawing whenever i want.
Now if i were to share some of my stuff those would be the answer:
>"it sucks because it isn't something i deem worthy of consuming"
>"it isn't what i believe it would be so it sucks"
>"you said bad words and made me feel insecure about myself so i will try to hurt you"
or i'll end up mindbreaking the mediocre normies who actually have been trying so bad with no avail they'll never let go.
Also they really expect people here to put their money where their mouth is just for talking; if that doesn't show how incredibly fucking insecure these worms are that words on the internet are a personal threat to them, then nothing will.
Even if you show them, they just will keep going because it is never enough for these "people" until they utterly erase your existence so they can feel better about themselves.

At the end, it's too much hassle and risk with the reward being nothing but getting punished and dragged down into a bucket... for fucking drawing. Oh yeah, and the reply to this? Insults and non-sequiturs.
These animals are just fucking insane and it is no surprise the ruling class absolutely hates their guts with a passion.

>"im acksuhally smart"
>writes an essay
seems like the water cooler is dispensing copium, apparently lethal amounts

>>7895984
>I'm too smart to be successful
Lmfao, the cope that narcissists will jump through to protect their own egos.

>I never put any effort into anything because the dormant artistic abilities that I never use will only make out people seethe, trust me bro
>a-any negative response to my post proves me right b-btw
Dunning Kruger at this finest kek. Literally has to shield himself preemptively from criticism because he knew wrote some retarded ass coping loser shit.

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TFW when "too smart to succeed" bait still gets people.

>>7896089
A retard pretending to be retarded is still a retard.

>>7895984
Nobody likes you because you’re a schizophrenic retard
You keep second guessing because you’re incapable of knowing anything and even then you have a clear habit of shitposting here for twenty hours a day

>Support for 3D Viewer will be coming to an end on June 30th 2026

Fuck you Microsoft what is wrong with you? Oh lemme guess, it doesn't have le AI in it and that's why you can't let it live any longer, isn't it?

>>7896141
Based billionaires cucking their serfs. You will own nothing, your labor will be devalued, and you will be powerless to do anything to change it.

I wish I was more patient with my drawings but unmedicated ADHD is a bitch

>>7896147
I'll keep my PC until the motherboard fries itself. If my Dinosaur cintiq dies I'll just buy 2 more. Boomer gear dies with me.

>>7896160
You will bend the knee at some point. They are hoarding all the resources. They've likely bought most of the politicians already. It's joever.

>bait threads and demotivational post spiking again
Did politics get boring again or what?

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When every reaction now is misery itself craving acknowledgement for its existence; do you really want to put any effort only to be surrounded by these "people"?

Remember; everything is going to shit because sane people are alienated and reasonably stay as far away from dealing with these nutjobs who cannot function as real humans.
Just bide your time until these quacks implode on themselves or just kill themselves like they are supposed to.

>>7896104
Exactly. Neither deserve your attention

>>7896213
is this guy a schizo?

what can I do to be able to draw longer? after an hour I'm back to doomscrolling with brainfog.

don't say exercise.

>>7896253
there is no solution you are determined to be a loser. the universe is deterministic unlucky for u

>>7896255
I know but there must be a workaround

>>7896256
ok post art and i can divine you a path forward

>>7896256
90 minutes generally the limit for deep concentration so you're not far off. Just take a walk on your break, think about what you were working on for a bit and then let your head clear.

>>7896256
turn off the wifi, at the end of the day you kind of have to make the effort if you want to quit bad habits

>>7896253
I think the ability to draw longer depends a lot on how much you like the outcome. I know this from myself. If you are in the middle of a picture and everything still looks pretty rough and unfinished, it's harder to work on it because you feel like you are doing a senseless task anyway.

However when you know what to do to create a decent product with substance, and you already made some of these works, then you just want to make another one and try to finish it.

You have to internalize the reward of producing a nice picture. If you already know you are able to make it look good, then you want to hurry up to finish it. However you need some experience and trust in your work for this, because it's easy to get doubts about your ability.

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I feel like I've become a lot less resistant to negativity or even criticism of my art in the last year.

Maybe I've grown insecure about its quality, or perhaps I've just not had to deal with it in a while, but I feel like my skin has grown a lot thinner and it makes me feel weak and a bit frustrated.

>>7896256
you either have it in you or you dont

someone put copium in the water cooler tank again

If you had anything real to say you wouldn't desperately attempt to "bait"
Me? I just get everything you crave without even trying or "baiting".
Anything that isn't apathy, shallow or a lie gets you subhumans into an imploding psychological meltdown.

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advice for a posturelet? my elbow hurts

Just found out the artist who drew Dva x Ramattra ship art draws full official Overwatch comics
>Overwatch
I know but that's beside the point. what the hell maybe there is hope for the freaks in us

>youtube recommends drawing stream
>another pro just manifests body parts from imagination or whatever without using construction schematics measuring or anything useful for a newbie
boring

>>7896667
construction is not real, its a psyop. Now you know the truth.

wasting an hour of your life trying to draw something and failing has got to be the worst feeling in the world. doing nothing would have been more productive.

>>7896749
No. Use the next hour to analyze what went wrong, why, and what you can do to avoid it in the future. You can learn from every failure.
Then you can use another hour to start over and try again with a different approach.
An hour on a piece is nothing.

Need sleep. Can't sleep. Wanna draw. Need sleep. Can draw tomorrow. Wanna draw now. Can't draw. Need sleep.

>>7896765
An hour is not nothing, there's context. Its the PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE you suffer because of it. If an hour is nothing then how about you watch your family be tortured for an hour. That's nothing, right?

>>7896787
Kill your inner child and the psychological damage goes with it. Then try again.

>>7896749
Look up the story of that Japanese 10 year old boy who studied butterflies. He wasted many hours researching bugs. Think of yourself as a scientist like him, experimenting what works and what doesn't towards a greater goal.

did something happen in the last month or so? the vibe this board gives is quite.. different

>>7896790
The probably just wanted to impress girls with it. They love butterflies. Anon is old and unattractive. He doesn't impress anyone anymore.

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>>7896774
>Wake up
>Immediately leave bed so it's only associated with sleep
>It's still dark so I need to spend 30 minutes in front of a 10k lux light box to shut off melatonin production and set circadian rhythm
>Eggs and kefir for breakfast for gut biome health and tryptophan
>My one coffee per day wait at least two hours so my body can clear out excess adenosine but make sure it's not too late so I have 12 hours to process the caffeine
>Take break outside so my first exposure to natural light isn't all the way after work
>Avoid all the junk food I'm exposed to all day
>Plan my dinner so it's 4 hours before sleep so my body is no longer in digestion mode at bedtime
>Take a walk outside during sunset to trigger melatonin production
>No screens two hours before bed
>read in dim light an hour before bed
>Earplugs in so ambient noises don't disrupt deep sleep
>Room must be pitch black

Most people probably don't need to be this autistic about getting good sleep, but there's probably something in there most people could stand to work on

>started making enough money off art to quit my shitty job
>family/friends worried that i draw too much
>art friends really take issue with my work ethic or just feel insecure
>every time i feel "burnout" i just push through it and people have been telling me "oh you'll burn out eventually" for years


i think i actually finally genuinely made it? i do art full time, i draw so much people either worry about me or they don't want to associate after they give me some "ugh you're such a tryhard get a life"-esque callout. i especially love it when other artists do this to me because it makes me want to double down and outwork them even morre

dont get me wrong im intensely lonely and will likely be found like 3 weeks after dying alone in my room. but holy fuck i would do this a million times over

>>7897037
genuine congrats.
I wouldn't pay those reactions much mind. atypical success is always scorned by people who are wanting in some way in their life, and that's always more people than people want to admit.

>>7891541
do you guys feel like some days it's harder to warm up or you just feel rusty for no discernible reason? like your muscle memory feels worse than usual, it's harder to find a comfortable position on your chair or at your tablet etc.
idk why this happens to me but it's frustrating

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we're already in march and there's still so much i do not know. i cowardly avoid studies because i'm scared to face my dearth of knowledge but i really need to stop. if i don't use it, i'll lose it, and if i don't keep up momentum i'll have to start over and that is a waste of time. it's fun but it's scary at the same time, i'm sometimes hit with waves of "i'm never gonna improve am i?" (currently in one right now)

>>7897312
that slug is literally me

>open work in progress
>"this looks like shit"
>draw until I suddenly like it again
>alt tab
>repeat
Why am I like this

>>7897078
i know i shouldnt care, but it pisses me off

why? because i have enough drive in excess to drag someone else's art career out of the gutter, and as conceited as people think i am i do want others to succeed. but every time someone asks to be accountability buddies they always tap out on day 2, wish me ill ("you'll burn out/die!!") and return to playing video games and relegating their art practice to 30 guilty minutes at the end of the day. like they don't seem to understand that we compete in the same pond, i have no vested interest in helping you. it would be in my best interest for other artists to just be lazy and do self-care while i grind. instead i offer up things i've learned through endless suffering and toil, for free, on request and immediately. and somehow i end up being the asshole. i didnt have an experienced artist to chew everything for me when i started, i try to be that for others, it genuinely never works.

i think when i see struggling artists i see my old self in them and it makes me frantically want to save them, maybe this is toxic but typically its other artists that open with "can you teach me/can we draw together" and i am very very careful with my wordage as to not make people insecure. i make no value judgements, only offer criticism when asked and i keep it very concise, i tend to offer compliments alongside it, i really try to do everything right but their perception of me inevitably becomes "oh well anon is good but i bet they're MISERABLE and SAD and will DIE soon!". it's always the same story. "oh god thank you so much" then quips like "well i cant run blender in my head like you do" and "well technicality doesnt matter anyway", and of course then they wish death or failure on me and disappear, as one does.

>>7897474
People are annoying. You have to stop wasting your time friends. Real friends barely exist anyway. Humans are brutal terrible animals. Just concentrate on drawing and finding a girlfriend. You are a re able to make money from your hobby. Girls love money.

>>7897474
Every hobby is full of them. Dabblers and tourists. It's not worth doing something like this with them. You should seek others who already have shown similar level of commitment to yours and have been doing this shit for years, and aren't likely to give up when they find out that wait a minute, drawing takes effort?

What would be the most artistic way to commit suicide? Best I can think of is making a painting with your own blood.

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I'm doing the copy bridgman twice meme half-assed currently. Feels good.

>>7897534
It's a good exercise. I didn't even finish it myself, but still feel like I learned something.

my head hurts, so I can't draw today. I have NO CHOICE but to shitpost on 4chan all day.

>>7897527
Reenacting the bathtub slit wrist death probably

I want to draw, I really want, but somehow I'm afraid of it.... Idk why... I have all the tools to make drawing as safe and convenient as possible, without having to fear fucking up zhe drawing. I even have ideas I love and WIP I really like, but still... something stops me from just starting to draw. I just have too much sorrow on my mind I think. Not in the mood to do anything, and I don't know how to get out of it. Drawing and painting is the only thing I have which somewhat makes me forget my sorrow.

>don't draw anime
>0 likes
>draw 1 little anime doodle on the side of boring shit
>buncha likes

why is it like this

>>7897650
Anime is commercialized and popular. If you just draw some obscure stuff only experts know about then you will reach less people, unless you are really really good at it

>>7891601
what adult website did you submit to

>>7897474
You sound like one of those hysterical "if you can't handle me at my best, you don't deserve me at my worst" people who are always wondering why they push people away, to be honest. Why are you constantly finding yourself in antagonistic relationships with random internet people? Just seems odd. If you're serious about your craft, then just do it and live it and stop getting into petty catfights with randoms.

>>7897474
People are just fucking retarded and miserable now.
But you're also retarded if you don't expect them to be miserable faggots.

Be fucking selective and vet who you deal with.
Or just grind, post your goonslop where you do and rake in money.
It's pointless to throw out pearls when surrounded by nothing but pigs.

>>7897474
I think people are just unaware of not just the required time commitment, but the focus and thought you're required to put into practice. They think once they're in the right environment that it's effortless. People can make it more fun, they can keep each other accountable, but it's never effortless.

>>7898106
It's matter of your mental-state. If you are able to sit in front of a paper every day making lines for hours, then it can be pretty effortless. Some people are able to do that. They love their drawings enough, have fun with the process, and are also mentally capable to sit through this everyday. It's a purely mental task and if you can endure it then can be effortless.

>>7897474
Let me guess, you're that guy who likes to groom people around here. Did your last goober you groomed nuke their presence and ran away? This makes number 7, right?

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>>7897474
>>7898128
yo you can groom me lets see who drops first. picrel is some xiao weichun copies im doing right now to show im not a no practice permabeg discord: soh.9

>>7898143
>This makes number 7, right?
>discord: soh.9
>9 in the discord name
Man, you can't make this shit up. This world writes comedy all by itself.

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Is this book one of the good Loomis ones?
Some guy is selling it for 25€

>>7898149
Literally the best one.

>>7898150
Usually the one I see people recommending is fun with a pencil, that's why i asked
Thanks

>>7898154
That's more of a beginner's book and opinions vary if it's even good for begs

drawing is never effortless. If you draw an anime girl as a /beg/ and as a pro, you'll be spending hours constructing her as a /beg/ but you'll also spend hours polishing her as a pro. You will always want to put everything you've got into a drawing to make it OUTSTANDING and GOOD regardless of your skill level.

If you're imagining being good so you can draw beg shit faster, that's not how it works. You're going to be trying your best so you spend the same amount of time drawing, and more of your drawings are unfinished because you will be able to tell they're not worth it.

>>7898757
>but you'll also spend hours polishing her as a pro

Have you seen those koreans paint a full illustration in under 20 minutes on youtube? you have no idea what the world of /pro/ feels like

>>7898761
you dont know how satisfied they are with that drawing, which is my entire point. YOU'RE amazed at it because you're thinking about it from your pov, but if that was your 20 minute output (lets pretend that wasn't a performative drawing and that it came from their heart) then you would be pushing yourself to make it even better for an hour.

>>7898761
>Have you seen those koreans paint a full illustration in under 20 minutes on youtube?

No. Post some.

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>>7898757
>drawing is never effortless
I see anons making these types of absolutist statements a lot, but I think people need to understand there's nuance to everything. The reason I'm pushing back on this is because, while yes, drawing can be quite challenging, it doesn't have to be miserable or punishing all the time, either.
I still make drawings that fail, and then what I do? I try to incorporate the failed parts into studies while also grabbing some easy wins, draw some stuff I know I can absolutely crush. I definitely have comfort drawings that are easy to make and look good (to me and to others). It's not a black-and-white thing.
Try to find that sweet spot where you can be warm and happy most of the time, but also go on a dangerous excursion from time to time that challenges you. Try to find the fun in it, because you're in this for a long time no matter what.

FUCK CLIP STUDIO PAINT JUST CHARGED ME 76 DOLLARS FOR A SUBSCRIPTION I DON'T USE SINCE MY TABLET BROKE FUCK FUCK FUCK IM A DAMN NEET YOU BASTARDS GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK

>>7898150
That's not Creative Illustration

Something I've been working hard on is entering an ugly phase, which means I'm entering an anxious phase. It's trad too so there's only so much I can do if it fucks up.

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Started drawing to have something I'm proud of and make friends.
6 years later, still trash at drawing and zero friends made.
It's so over.

>>7899256
stop playing mahjong and your mood will improve immensely, nyagga

Started drawing to avoid going insane.
3 months later I'm going insane.
It's so under.

I've had a really good run lately but I finally hit a combo breaker, poured damn near my whole weekend into what turned out to be a total piece of shit. At least I can see where I went wrong, and I didn't hate the process as much as I hate the result, but still a bummer.

I'm quickly reminded why I hate social media as I always, without fail, get 1 latched on fagmo and not the good kind where I have to pretend to be humble in reply to their "advice".

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you can notice the point where I gave up and just finished it. Color pencils are beautiful but gods sake do I get burnt out quickly with them. I'm just gonna use watercolors and- OH WAIT I SUCK AT THOSE TOO. Acrylic markers + color pencils it is..

>think "I should draw"
>wave of fatigue washes over me
>think "I should waste time searching random crap"
>locked in, hyper motivated

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>go nofap
>start getting aroused by my prebeg drawings

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>>7899256
I'm sure that the anons in your general enjoyed your doodles and consider you their friend up to a level.

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Anonymous image board creates place where people can vent frustrations without fear of being known, many hurt by The Mean One, so... creates solace for a time, but... pain did not go away... Many still scared. Many still hurt. Many insecure. Don't know how to make stop, so... eventually... insecurity clouds judgement... then lash out at innocent!!! Innocent person now hurt. Why hurt me? Innocent person doesn't know, innocent person thinks their fault. Innocent person insecure... does not know that other is not malicious, other did not hurt because hate for innocent person, but for oneself. "I am broken, I cannot be saved!!" They think. Creates more hurt. More hurt makes more lashing out, more lashing out now makes fighting, many innocent people caught up in hurt. Cycle continues. Not good at all! More people reacting badly to everything. Decisions bred from fear. People terrified, people angry! Everybody out to get you!! But... not true. People do bad things sometimes...not always on purpose... it is human to make mistake... but people cannot forgive themselves... cannot forgive eachother. everybody flooded with pain... dont want pain... pain all people know... used to pain... some try to love pain, does not work...unhappy. empty. scared. tired. Eventually lose sight of light. Could not see good in self. Could not see good in others... Eyes closed... Cannot bare to see the world... Too much... want to sleep forever... maybe dream will do... but dream doesn't come... darkness inside... Eyes adjust to darkness... lost forever... perhaps light wasn't real after all... perhaps pain forever... just die instead...
...No!!! Cannot end like this! People want happy! But to be happy, people must forgive themselves. People must forgive eachother. Support one another. Be there for eachother. Reassure eachother!! Trust eachother!!! Protect eachother. Tired of hurt... Will fight!! Will search for light! Will run for light!!! Will bring everybody to light!!!

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>>7900552
cool

>made some socials a few months ago thinking i'd post art
>suddenly have feelings of inadequecy and don't post anything
>ff to today and i feel a little confident again
>learn that if I'm not constantly engaging with my xitter account it'll be considered a bot account and i'll have my visibility raped
>mad because I don't wanna make another account and refollow a bunch of people
surely liking stuff counts as engagement right...?

>>7891631
Not true at all.
When you pass a certain threshold it becomes incredibly easy to half ass something and still make it look good.

>>7901044
your art isnt soulful

To crab or not to crab?

>>7900255
I'm not who you are thinking of because I can't doodle for shit.

>>7901026
>mad because I don't wanna make another account and refollow a bunch of people
why would you even make a new account, new accounts get a low score, if not a negative one

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>client asks for peek at the artwork
>hesitate because I know how picky they are, send it anyway
>they like it but ask a thousand of autistic changes that make no sense, like a kid inventing a dbz OC
>might as well draw the entire thing again
Why did I took this commission......

Is it bad/rude if you make an alternate version (with the idea you think looks better) of a commission for your socials but still deliver the original to the requester?

>>7901536
just charge extra for any changes, scares away most of it or makes the hassle worth it.
>>7901613
no, it's your art you can do whatever you want
if they ask why you did that, just say it was to get around social media terms of service or something like that

>>7901638
>just say it was to get around social media terms of service or something like that
It's more like their "vision" is really all over the place, I want to show a more streamlined version.

>>7901749
These people tend to be really autistic about the detail in their "ideas", chances are they won't even recognize it as their own if you change a few things.

>>7901755
What's the best way to deal with people like this?

>>7901536
>"Wow anon! That's great work! Let's just change XY to be more pronounced. And can we make the tits bigger? We should change AB to something that scratches my degenerate fetish that I'm into right now, because I've been edging for 10 hours straight, shall we?"
>>7901760
>send rough draft that can be easily changed
>after establishing the rough thing, pay for changes

>>7901766
Yep, just like that but with small details around the entire piece, some that don't make sense at all

I log into separate twitter accounts and pretend I'm not my main for unfiltered, no bias critique of my posts from Grok and the difference is night and day.

I hope one day I can get commissions which actually have a chance to expand my fanbase to include people who actually commission me to draw things which will in turn expand my fanbase further. Every once in a while I get one, but most of them are just such random stuff that's far removed from what's popular, either in terms of characters, themes, or both.

i know everyone has on and off days, but man. it’s so weird when everything just clicks and you toss out a bunch of really good fully rendered complex pieces perfectly in spec, then the next day you can’t doodle a simple anatomically passable character in black and white to save your life.
every once in a while i have incredibly rewarding days, and every once in a while i fail hard inexplicably.
i usually hit right about in the middle in terms of manifesting my skill, maybe trying to reach a little higher with each draw, but yesterday was my fail day.
>still learned stuff though and my daily studies came out fine, so it only effected all my unfiltered imagination-based work.
back to normal now, but lol. just saw the same thing in someone else’s art here too, where it looks like two totally different artists drew different days’ pieces on extreme days. i remember thinking once that jumps in quality just probably meant how much someone was relying on reference or not in those specific instances, but it really does just happen in isolation of external factors.
/tldr why’d i even type this out. just did, i guess.

>make xitter account
>mark my art as sensetive material, make like 3 posts a week, retweet and like posts like a normal user
>people even retweet my shit and follow me
>still shadow banned and my posts don't appear in search results
wtf am I doing wrong
should I just rely on my handful of followers I've accured and pray their followers find me

>>7901988
>higher with each draw
"Drawing" is the correct word, amigo.
As for the rest of your post, I know the feeling, even after 20 or so years of drawing. One trick to help with this is when you're reaching the end of a good drawing day, start a new sketch, and leave it unrefined. Begin the next day by refining that sketch, so hopefully you can kickstart your brain with some of the juice you had on your good drawing day. Hell, if you're having a really good drawing day, start as many quick sketches as you can muster, and create a bank of them to delve into when you think you're getting ready to have a bad drawing day.
>>7902011
>trying to figure out how to make it on Twitter
Just do your best, post regularly, and hope for the best. Also don't be too picky about what you post, I know I've posted something I was really happy with only to find it go over like a wet fart, but I've also posted something that I wasn't even planning to post because it was a commission that I wasn't particularly happy with compared to my other drawings, only for it to be the most popular thing I've ever posted (at least posted by me on MY account, because bluecheck repostfaggotry is another story)

>>7902011
>>still shadow banned and my posts don't appear in search results
New accounts get that. Don't worry about it.

What you want, is the algorithm understanding to whom to push your art. So. Market your Twitter in your other site's accounts so that people who into your art and subject pick you up in Twitter too. Then Twitter's algorithms sees that people with similar tastes are picking you up and then it will start pushing you to other similar profiles.

>>7902056
988 here, that’s such an awesome idea, seriously whoa, anon. i’ll definitely try to practice it if i have multiple works on my plate i need to finish. i don’t post my work on social media, but if i ever do, or start in on commissions again (really possible,) that’d be a great way to improve the quality of future work. /hard saves the genius post
last time i was producing the best results ever in a kind of rapid fire daze, i took pieces through every stage to the finish and that was good too, because it felt kind of like i was making my brain-eyes-and-hands experience the idealized process of each step of how i work through a piece, so a physical path was lightly traced in some form of nebulous memory/muscle memory storage as to how to really work at my best. but yeah, since i did this last time, i’ll for sure try out your maximally efficient approach next. ^^
>why is explorative drawing so fun?

>>7902090
lol retard

>>7902070
I will say that if you post anything which would have to be censored on pixiv, you have to be careful about how you link to sites with your uncensored art. Granted I doubt it's an issue most of the time, but if somebody wants to fuck with you, they could report it. I know I was temp banned from pixiv for this a while ago.

>>7902103
True. I do link my other sites in Pixiv and other sites too but I'm not dumb enough to yell "SEE THE UNCENSORED VERSION HERE". The regular viewers know how these things work and new artists are treating viewers as someone who have just gotten access to internet and need hand holding

yay yay yayyy i have a gun now
>actually i’ve had it for a while, i just sort of forgot
—so i can finally study natural hand grips for my anime characters without these pesky free inaccurate 3d model primatives
wahoo!
>its an unloaded bb gun
>rapidly scribbles while waving it around in profound seriousness

WHAT TO DRAWW????

>>7902778
maybe this? it’s addictive though, i can’t stop.
youraislopbores.me
^site, just if you want

Getting fed up with the AI bullshit polluting every space I'm in
>adapt or die
I'd rather die tbdesu

>>7902797
Me too, even when people do it as a joke like this >>7902783 it's still so fucking annoying. They're worshipping their enemy and they're not even aware of it.

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>>7891541

so earlier this week i had finished retrofitting my last covenant ship, my largest ever completed at 175.5 meters. i spent a couple months updating my existing library of 3 ships using new assets and new techniques i learned over the past year or two and i felt it was necessary to update my favorites.

i still have to finish my really large vessel, but i got through the painful part. improving as an artist is always an amazing feeling, but when it moggs my old work, it makes me feel bad about my old work which i view as material possessions that look lower quality by comparison. i loathe the day i have to go back a second time.

i'm currently waiting on a couple different artists to write back to me about commissions. i have my polish spaceship guy of course who has a handful of different things but he writes back very infrequently. i have two other art friends on telegram, one of which has been backlogged on my commission since october 1st 2025 and has only recently begun drawing my commission (they are getting better with time management though), and my russian furry animator who is currently taking a vacation until may... so i'm bummed

>>7902863
when did the spaceship become gunt

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>>7902863
aw fuck

Time to start inking my latest drawing, but I'm still so bad at it...

>See cool elden ring art
>throw a joke as a comment because the art piece itself uses its video game logic as its foundation (its a character hammering a bow to "upgrade it"
>some random retard thats not the author starts telling me to go ask miyazaki why upgrading in the world of elden ring is a form of expression, and that i should stop and enjoy the art, appreciate it and improve instead of looking for faults and trying to look smart
>tell him all I did was go with joke that he is hammering a bow and thats video game logic and that it really wasn't that deep, that he should work on his context reading.
>he tells me to copying (????) and to go draw
what is wrong with people.

>>7892142
how's that going anon?

>>7896270
it's good you feel that way when you can't even get the knee in the right position

Some of you are real assholes, you can give feedback without being a dick

>>7903244
but then you wouldn't feel it

>>7903244
Be the change you want to see.

>>7903244
first day here?

>>7892142
Work it in a strict time period. Everyday after doing something that brings you energy/joy open it up and whittle away at it for an hour. This is the true job and it requires you to build that muscle. Think of it as a shitty part time job, usually those are soul sucking but you make it 4-8 hrs on the regular.

>not drawing
>brain full of things to draw
>sit down
>end up doing one of the few poses i sort of know how to do passably which doesnt fit what i was thinking of at all OR my mind goes comically blank
i want to draw… i won’t give up again but jesus

I’m thinking I should give up I’ll never be able to draw good I’ve been drawing four hours over the past seven years

Been bad for years, I think I won't make it. Problem is I don't give a shit, I just keep drawing every day. It's a problem because if I gave a shit I would quit and focus on acquiring some skills to get a good job. Instead I'm just retarded. Retarded and in love with art.

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FINALLY I (officially) DONT HAVE TO WORK A SHITTY 9 TO 5 FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 12 MONTHS LETS GOOOOOO ART GAINS!!!

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>>7891541
The Flyers posted a speedpaint of one of their promo art and I think it looks cool
https://x.com/NHLFlyers/status/2036477719291027780

I can only draw for other people now, I can't draw just for myself/for fun.

>>7904690
I was like that, it's not a good place to be. Not in 2026. Find a way out

>want to paint something complex
>do a little test on the side first
>"oh hey that looks fine and it wasn't even hard"
>move to main canvas
>suddenly forget what i did and sit petrified in fear of fucking it up
(trad problems)

I'm gonna say it. Don't give advice you haven't done yourself.

I can't force myself to capitalize and quit my wagie work. Idk, i guess deep inside im scared that i will not like it.

>>7903802
pyw and i will tell you more

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Is it sus if the client wants raw unmerged PSD file? Is he trying to scam me/someone else somehow? And how much would you charge extra for that?
I don't really wanna do it, I would if it was a salaried position and I knew what he's gonna do with the file, but this is just a one-off commission.

Whenever I draw digitally it just becomes so tedious that I can't finish the drawing anymore.
Yesterday I drew on paper again, without sketching KJG style, and it was so much more fun.
I kind of dislike working digitally but I just need it to fix my drawings.

>>7905762
I know exactly what you mean
What I've ended up doing is that I draw individual elements of my composition separately, in trad, before I scan them and clean them up digitally.

>>7905769
I mainly just use digital because the mirroring is so good in it plus I can fix everything with transform. It's mainly due to the mirroring why I even go over rough sketches with lines.
It's the linework which makes it so tedious. I probably need a better mirror set-up in trad, so I don't need to go over rough sketches digitally with lines.

>>7905790
If you use a light pad you can literally just flip the paper over
Without it, you can still hold the paper up against the nearest light source. Hopefully that's something bright because you shouldn't be working in darkness.

>>7905792
>If you use a light pad you can literally just flip the paper over
That's true I never even thought about that. I have a light table, but I only bought it for transferring and tracing sketches.

Do people also draw on the bacside of the paper then? Because in digital it's always so good that you can draw in the mirror version of the drawing.

>>7905797
>Do people also draw on the bacside of the paper then?
Well... you can do it and it kinda can work, but I wouldn't actually do it, other by accident lol
Because the thing is if you do that then you can only see the full drawing when it's on the light table. Not a problem if you just snap a photo of it in the end I guess.

I usually sketch on paper, then ink and color digitally. However, most of my latest sketches have been so poor that I've had to redraw many of them digitally. Maybe I should just do the whole thing digitally.

>>7905798
Yea, I guess if you transfer the drawing afterwards to a new paper again, you also could draw on the backside.
My process is usually anyway "rough sketch ---> going over it with pencil again ---> go over it with fineliner".
Meaning I could bring in the light table while going over it with pencil again, and then transfer it to a new paper with fineliner.

Thans for the tip tho! I really never thought about this. Now I actually have a reason to use my light table! It was just sitting in a bag the whole time.

>>7905806
One of the things which are really helpful in digital (to me at least) is that you can easily increase the size of the drawing and zoom in so much.

A lot of the times when I draw analog and the drawing turns out mediocre, a big reason for this is just that I drew on a pretty small scale, which makes it harder to ink well when you are basically doing a miniature drawing.

A good way to fix this without relying too much on digital is to just scan the sketch, and then increase the size digitally (maybe also fix the proportions a bit), and then print it out again and work on it with a light table I guess.

>>7905816
I think that's exactly the problem I'm having. Many of my latest drawings have multiple characters and relatively complex backgrounds. It's difficult to work on so many elements on an A4 sheet of paper.

i posted muh art and got 7 likes and a new follower on deviantart. we're all gonna make it!

I tested my light table yesterday and it's fun to use. I just don't now what ind of paper I should use with it. The only paper I have which is thin enough for it is copy machine paper and that's not really great for inking.

Lifelong trad artist, have been fucking around with a tablet for a few days. Holy fucking shit this is easy, jesus fucking christ. I'll never be intimidated by a digital artist again.

>>7906518
post your work

>>7906381
Deviantart feels botted nowadays. I'd get 2k views but only 11-15 likes and that seems to be the norm for a lot of people

>>7906522
err actually 4 - 7 likes per 1k views is the norm while anything double digits would be considered "exceptional"

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>find artist i think is god tier
>download their entire gallery
>see like a million sketchbook pages like picrel
>pages of just bodies, just props, just shapes
>always challenging his/herself
it's humbling and comforting to know that it's all just consistent practice and stepping out of your comfort zone a lot. what they do in a week is what i do in a month, i gotta try harder

>>7906532
They just mastered a shape formula. I literally see the formula in 10 seconds of looking at this image.

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>>7906543
pyw

>>7906532
>>7906545
i really enjoy seeing sketchbook pages like this instead of entirely curated pieces because it's a nice reminder, as you said, that this is all the result of consistent hard work and an attempt at truly understanding what you're trying to draw.

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>>7906548
agree
i considered making a thread for it once upon a time but i know it wouldn't last long. posted the wrong image

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super digital lineart protip:
make it so that your brush has a minimum size that isn't zero

>>7906769
god I wish photoshop had adjustment curves

So Procreate recently announced that in 2027 the app is coming to Mac OS. I love it on my iPad and can't wait to ditch Photoslop.

Ice only ever used Windows for my main pc. As I understand, I cannot install Mac OS on my gaming pc (5700X3D, RTX 5070 ti).

What will be the cheapest way to get a competent enough machine that runs mac os and won't suck for painting - decent ram level, decent performance, can run 2 monitors minimum (cintiq and minitor)?

>>7905743
Not really sus it's a thing some artists do. Just ask them what they want it for.

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>in order to draw, you have to draw
>if you dont draw, nothing gets drawn
>you can't draw without paying in time and energy
>bad drawings cost just as much as good

I'm so tired of this shit

I'm tired of drawing like shit while watching others photobash/trace AI and get tons of engagement and commissions. I'm going to do it too. Fuck it.

>>7907449
I read a post the other day about a guy's brother who traced AI in trad. He would print AI elements and composite them onto the canvas and paint over it, and sell the paintings for thousands.

Trad drawers think they're safe, but they don't know what's coming. This is the new norm, and if you don't take advantage of it, others will and get ahead.

>>7907453
Thanks Rahul

>>7906569
Sketchbook/doodle thread is great for this. I'd post too in support

>>7891559
I can't even get commissions. Most of my gallery is my own work but I usually get below 5 likes on social media so I probably suck

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Trvth nvke: Drawing is only feasible for the unemployed.

>>7908930
unemployment* with a source of income. it sucks having no money for food and the basics.

>>7908930
Only if you're starting late.

I don’t really know what to do anymore. Trying to grow my following but it’s just not working. Many professional “big name” artists are following me and tell me they love my stuff, but outside of them I’ve only got a 100ish followers. In art discords I’m always getting compliments, and on Le Reddit I got around 1k upvotes on a random drawing, but still no real traction on any of my social medias. I’ve been posting for something like 8+ years and my moots are sitting at 200k+ followers but I can’t crack 200.

I'm unhappy, I want to quit art and get a real job but i can't find a job at all. I've seen comments of people saying they wish I could just quit and be happier but I can't. I'm miserable all the time, and at this point no one seems to care. the people around me, friends, family, even some of my followers just seem to want to pacify me until I start feeling normal again. I want things to change but nothing I do changes anything.

>>7893609
>while some mediocre commission I drew and was almost too embarrassed to even post winds up getting a few thousand likes.
this happens to me too. very discouraging.


>>7908981
real brother. those big artists only ever like my stuff and never repost it. I have big art mutuals but they never talk to me, or reply when I comment on their work. they only ever break their silence to say "keep trying" when I'm making it clear I'm mad about where I'm at. they never actually show real support

>>7893078
Who on earth would pay you for that? Wouldn't those kinds of people be satisfied with AI slop?

woke up with uncomfortable gas and nausea
guess I'm not drawing today

>>7908987
>but i can't find a job at all
Unless you have a degree in something that makes sense and that's why you can't get a job I don't know why anyone would work at Mc Donalds in 2026. Why earn 12-13 an hour when you can just turn on a food delivery app and make $20 - $30 an hour in a good market? I wasted a year working a shitty job paying $15 an hour but was afraid of quitting because it was remote and "hard to get" but in my city it's so easy to make a consistent $22+ an hour that I felt real stupid not quitting sooner.

And to all the people who complain on social media that they can't earn money doing door trash and uber jeets are people who are stuck in a W2 mindset and expect the apps to give them free shit by pressing a button without perfecting their own strategy. Never listen to social media complainers.

>>7909340
>can just turn on a food delivery app and make $20 - $30
You need a drivers license to be a pizza delivery guy. You don't need a drivers license to work at mcdonald. You really have a good reason to feel stupid

So I finally started using my light table now, and while it's really fun to use, I now have the problem of not knowing which paper I should use.
It's not the best light table. There are probably ones with brighter light. That's why I prefer using transparent paper on it, because like this I really can mirror the drawings well.
However, drawing on transparent paper feels a bit awkward. It's more slippery than normal paper.
And when I try to ink, I currently just put copy machine paper over it and trace. Copy paper is not good for inking tho. When I use thicker paper I can't see the lines shining through very well. So I am not really sure which paper I should use now. I really like drawing with light table but the paper situation is a bit complicated now. Any recommendations?

>>7909343
>>7909343
>You need a drivers license to be a pizza delivery guy

Most (norm) teens drive by 16/17. When you said "I can' find a job" I assumed you're much older than that.

>>7909343
you do need a lisense to work at mcdonalds. If you tell them you don't have one then they will simply not hire you. come on man this world is a lot worse than the overt rules that are written out.

>>7909347
Oh, you are an american, I see. You probably think everyone just magically owns a pick up truck when they turn 16 and a big house made of cardboard appears out of nowhere for them.

>>7909349
Oh sorry I guess my "advice" only applies to the worlds police and strongest army in the world.

>>7909351
>the worlds police and strongest army in the world
More like the biggest cancer in the world

>>7909355
What's that? I can't hear you from the sound of my phone giving me a $14 (USD btw) offer for 1.2 miles. Man it's so good to be an American with opportunities. Hope you find a job, though!

>>7909358
I don't have time for a job. You are talking to NEET masterrace here, little wagie.

>>7909360

I don't need to work, either. I get paid from a state program. I just like doing it for extra money and see the rich neighborhoods around me and take pictures of lakes and stuff.

>>7908930
i drew/learned more when i was employed, never underestimate the therapeutic affect art has.

I feel like I’ve lucked out in that I enjoy studying the fundies…except for perspective. I need to find a teacher that encourages freehanding and minimal guidelines

>doing art
>miss Artemis II launch
damn

>>7908930
Probably not true but if you have a physically demanding job that requires you to work long hours then you're out of luck. In that case you should stop being a slave for more reasons than just being able to have more time to draw

is there a reason I should create a new twitter account in 2026 instead of using an old one I've barely interacted with that was created in 2021?

>>7910468
an old account would probably be better
on a new one twitter assumes you are a bot. it can take a while until their system treats you normally

0 likes. I feel like I should pretend to be japanese at this point because it's clear they're favored., Or I could just make porn for the rest of my life. Ugh, there's nothing interesting about drawing swimsuits for the thousandth time

>>7910553
just keep drawing and posting on all socials and eventually someone will find you and boost you. no need to pretend to be japanese.

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i wish that was me

>>7908981
social media is a scam quit stressing over it

>>7910509
I figure it would be the opposite and that an account that practically has no activity would be a bot, but I guess that does make sense.

drawing trad at night is fucking annoying, especially when you're working on a piece with colors

>>7910553
if you have absolutely 0 people looking at your stuff then you need to join communities to get the ball rolling. Use tags in fandoms and draw relevant stuff.

>>7903240
I'm still working on said piece. I guess there's no way around it. Just keep working on it on tolerable amounts.

what platform are people posting their art on these days? is twitter/x still relevant or should i get on bluesky?

>>7897474
how many hrs a day/week do you draw?

>>7898776
>it doesn't have to be miserable or punishing all the time
how to learn this as a beg?
I pretty much do not have a "comfort zone" for those easy wins

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I finally opened a twitter account, I'm not afraid of showing people my crappy drawings anymore, feels good even if I will get zero likes for years

>>7897527
All that makes me think of is those livejournal girls who painted with their period blood.

As far as suicide... maybe an over the top art instillation of a crime scene... with your corpse in the middle?

I've been drawing for two days straight, my body hurts, I have things to do, I'm tired, but I don't want to stop

.

the internet is so oversaturated with digital art. feel like im late for 20 years or so. i open xitter and every time my feed is full with fresh amazing art (im not very picky and prefer simple art styles over turborendered pro works)

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I just want to get good at drawing huge anime titties...

I've don't like being on the internet but my work requires it. I hate what these places have done to people.

>>7912310
I don't know man. Interacting with humans in person is a bit of a job if you ask me.

>>7912310
me too. I want to get rid of my computer. social media and the internet as a whole is worthless outside of my job.

>>7913770
Hey Siri, what event happened during 2020 to 2023?

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>draw stuff
>want to share it and have my work beamed into the eyes of others
>3 views..
it's frustrating
I'm not even trying to get commissions or to turn this into a job, I just want people in the fandoms I like to see the work I make

>>7913886
If you're a solo leveler like me, start off on Deviantart and link your X in your descriptions for every post. Just be subtle about it, no pressure. What you want are the quality mutuals who will follow you over to other platforms and retweet you.

It will happen and when it does happen you'll wish you'll remain at 3 views a bit longer because you'll now get a bunch of faggots daily messaging you for free work and demanding you draw something they want to see. It's very easy, so easy to get followers. So focus on improving more and whatever.

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