www.website.com

>>7892529
If you want to keep your artistic integrity? Newgrounds, Sheezy.art, or your own website on something like neocities or nekoweb.
If you want to sellout? Twitter.

Also, the breasts look better without the nips popping through in your picrel.

I honestly stopped posting art on the internet.
>all bots
>all ai
>all "ragebait"
if i wanted to be a content slopper that badly i'd just open kids toys on camera and upload it to youtube kids so i could finance 5 generations with a month's of ad revenue

>>7892534
>Sheezy.art
I can't believe this place is still around

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>>7892534
>If you want to keep your artistic integrity? Newgrounds

>>7892534
What about Devianart?

>>7892529
Sometimes reddit if you want easy likes. But they're missing a chromosome and ask stupid questions.
Pixiv seems to be meh.
Deviantart has losers on it.
Newgrounds has losers on it.
Twitter is alright but nobody shares your work.
Discord will ignore you.
Instagram might be dead.
Bluesky might be dead.
Misskey and baraag I'm unsure.
Youtube you might get lucky with shorts.
Kemono.party is dead atm.
Rule34 easy likes but no money.
Danbooru you might get followers.

>>7892540
What about Steam?

>>7892541
I totally forgot about steam. Thanks Anon.

>>7892538
>artistic integrity is when i can draw porn of anything i want
you'd cry about it even if they just told you that it's not allowed to post photographs

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>>7892546

>>7892550
You don't draw

>>7892550
Based newgrounds. I like it.

You should post everywhere because it's free and it takes a few secondes to make a post.
Hosting your own backup blog is also a good idea because websites owners wioo make stupid decisions if wait long enough (see Tumblr or dA).

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>>7892557
This.

>>7892536
It isn't. It's a completely unaffiliated site made by fans of the original.

>>7892539
Deviantart has become an AI infested cesspool.

>>7892550
>>7892538
Newgrounds, despite how you're trying to frame it here, has remained as one of the most free and least censorious websites out there. even the rules you're posting here are only loosely applied. Want total freedom? Make your own fucking site.

>>7892541
The gaming platform? I guess you could post art there, on the forums or as a community post, but I can't imagine posting anything that isn't (game )fan art related.

I sought total freedom and broke the shackles of internet numbers.
Now i just sing into the void, since it is livelier than the beast called social media.

>>7892538
Good.

>>7892562
>websites owners wioo make stupid decisions if wait long enough (see Tumblr or dA).
What happened to DA?

>>7892540
>>7892541
This shit is so grim. I'm thankful drawing is just a hobby for me and I have a career that out-earns virtually every artist except maybe the top 0.1%.

>>7892538
>>7892550
Based rational people that don't spend their life in a basement.

>>7892585
In 2020 dA was sold. They have been busy killing the website with NFTs and now Ai. It's a website for scammers.

>>7892534
newgrounds uses webp compression now.

use itaku.ee

>>7892535
off topic but
>phone peasant
>music video on youtube
>straight up static jpeg and music
>>sorry, this video is meant for kids so it won't play in the miniplayer
what the fuck

>>7892550
>>7892538
Holy shit, based Newgrounds.
>>7892595
>>7892559
Did you guys get your deposit? Mine is still pending.

>>7892663
>newgrounds uses webp compression now.
It's annoying but you can still download the images and videos from newgrounds fairly easily. Compared to twitter, which needs a third part site or app to just to download their videos or gifs (as if its twitters content to protect, and as if they're not a platform solely for sharing - I'm amazed they even let us download images).

>>7892538
Doesn't Amy's age fluctuate depending on the series or time? I always assumed she was late teens or early 20s, not fucking 13. And then adding in Rouge who just bleeds sex-appeal really confuses the whole damn thing. Also, they're anthro cartoons of all things. Meanwhile you have 10,000 year old loli vampires that don't get a bat of an eye. But they're drawings, while Epstein Isle 2.0 and 3.0 is probably popping off somewhere, but this is the real hill to die on right here.

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>>7892550
>>7892578
Old Shadman on NG and the rest of the psycho shit that was posted on there was truly a wondrous time. Now you have limp wristed faggots crying and wanting to sanitize every inch and space of the internet despite entire massive social media platforms already there to cater to their shitty posting life-style. Fucking normies don't deserve mass communications, and especially don't deserve the internet. God do I miss early NGs.

>>7893000
>the heckin normies hate my child porn!!! aaaaaiiiieeeee!!!
nice try
i don’t mean loli either i mean porn of actual children. his art was gross and nasty

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>>7892578
>Make your own fucking site.
I actually did this.
It's just a Docker running a booru (plus any other backend stuff needed), but it's my own hardware and my own rules. Though in my case, I wanted it so I could host "Ultra HDR" images, and less because of any objectionable content (I'm actually somewhat tame compared to most).
https://art.soandnb.com

>>7893075
Faggot, pre-social-media era and before the masses got onto the internet was peak kino. Most sub-IQ retards weren't online, and the shit on Newgorunds was a lot more unhinged and nuts and quite frankly refreshing. That's even if Shadman is disregarded out of the mix, but he was probably the most infamous and unhinged with his art. But you can fuck off with your over sanitized shithole websites, there's plenty of options for you that you can fuck off to and police. Don't like it, there's more than enough safe spaces for you.

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>>7892663
>first thing I see when entering the site is gay furry shit
No, thanks.

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>kino
Honestly the internet back then was not that different from what it is now
>new shadman goon dropped
>everyone was spamming it everywhere
Then it was sakimi
then csr
then that other guy who takes memes but puts anime characters in it
now probably some other literal who who draws porn

All the cliques and shit? Always has been a thing.
Artists being drama faggots? Yup.
throughout the years only the names changed and the people multiplied by the billions
>most retards weren't online
lmao shut the fuck up, zoomer

>>7893133
>Honestly the internet back then was not that different from what it is now
It was, it was smaller, and there were more sites. Now the internet is just shrinking into a few mega-websites. Same with 4chan, but 4chan is a different story how this place went down hill.
>most retards weren't online
They weren't. Most people didn't start hopping online until social-media became larger, same with things like early Youtube, and MySpace. Most people weren't online because they had no need or desire to until it became far more accessible to be able to share their shitty vacation picture, pets and/or ego-posturing/posting for each other on social.
Unless you were a nerd or in forums chatting shit up or a gamer, most normies weren't online.
>lmao shut the fuck up, zoomer
>Implying
Still have ptsd having to teach brain dead screaming boomer family members how to send an email, as they get red in the face screeching at a child more tech literate than them.

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>i watched a youtuber essay about 00s interwebs and believed everything; the post
Normies that came with myspace and fecesbook stayed on there. They weren't ruining forums and icq groups.
It was always the fucking autists.
>no bro fr i have ptsd teaching boomers how to do epic emails on god fr fr zamn
come on now nigga
Do you also have 300 confirmed kills, you little shit?

What's a good place to create your own blog?

>>7893292
neocities

>>7892585
An art-website is now overran with AI

>>7893075
tranny being disingenuous, who coulda thunk it

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>>7892529
I miss the time when DeviantArt was the standard...

>>7893300
Do they have it set up so you can just enter your blog post, or do you have to play with the html and the website arrangement (essentially making an entire website update) each time you want to make a post?
Not a criticism, I'm just not sure how it works.

>>7893276
NTA but the type of stuff normies tend to get blamed for can only be done by bitter and unstable autists with a lot of free time. Most normies just complain about ethics and morality before storming off

>>7893256
It's so cute to see zoomers like you pretend to know what the old internet was like and be completely wrong on every point

>>7892529
>>7892540
Did artstation do anything stupid lately?

>>7893535
They probably breathed today, that's pretty fucking stupid of them

>>7893535
They allow AI on their site, don't they? For a website that's supposed to be dedicated to artists getting work, it's a pretty big flub on their end. I also believe they allow training on the art posted on that site.
It's also just one of the most dull sites out there, despite being full of talented people - I don't know how they managed to make such a boring party when the the guest list includes all the coolest and most interesting people, but somehow they pulled off.

>>7892550
>>7892538
ok so these two posts sold me on newgrounds. have they mentioned anything regarding ai scraping at all? or should we just assume that anything uploaded anywhere will be used to train ai?

>>7892529
only boorus and e-h do not suck
just post everywhere who cares
>>7893658
what can they say about scraping?

>>7893658
When you go to a newgrounds url, there's (what I imagine is) a anti-bot screen - so I think that's their defense against scraping. I don't believe they've said anything about it specifically.

>>7893133
>shadman
lol wasn't internet already fucked by that point?
i mean of course internet was always full of gay ass drama it was like that since usenet days but any idiot knows that.
difference between back then and today is that back then internet was not a serious place it was place for "losers to be losers" so nobody cared and we all just had fun. Problem however is that internet is just too goddamn useful to not be making profit out of it its too damn useful to not astroturf fake political movements. Social media and irl started to get too close to each other to the point that today people started to call avatars pfps. So slowly things started to become more serous and less fun.

>>7893569
Fuck, it's exhausting trying to remember all the dumb things these companies do. Every week somebody does something stupid.

>>7892997
sonic's amy or what amy?

>>7892529
post where there are more regular people than fellow artists.

>>7893712
So Twitter, insta, and facebook? Hard disagree from me, buddy.
The best art sites were the ones with less regulars people, like deviantart art or tumblr in their heydays.

You don't have to be picky. Nobody says you are not allowed to post on multiple websites.

>>7893716
Who wants to waste their time doing so though?

>>7893718
>go to website
>upload image
>copy-paste description + tags
>done
That shouldn't take more than 10 secondes.

>>7893718
Why are you even here?

>>7893123
Would.

>>7893256
Geocities was a mega-website : millions of personal pages and communities were lost when it went offline. You're doing the same with neocities and nekoweb that are honestly more similar to Tumblr in its execution than geocities.

>>7894019
It's a shame a lot of it is lost. Same with older websites. I used to read webcomics a lot back in the early days and a lot were just strange little website gems that are lost forever. Whether the original artist died or whatever happened, it sucks.

>>7893123
oh, and newgrounds isn't filled with gay furry porn? you can use either website for anything, as long as it's not edgy political shit, memes, or loli stuff. but itaku won't compress your files. use deviantart if you don't want to see explicit content.

>>7893806
>copy-paste description + tags
this will have to change slightly dependimg on the site it is being posted to

>>7892540
>Kemono.party is dead atm.
That's for downloading art behind paywalls retard

>>7892559
>>7892595
How is getting offended by cartoon Nazi porn "based" and "rational"? "Based" by its very definition means violating social norms.

>>7896610
LOL

>>7892540
Danbooru isn't even a website for artists. Artist tags are meant to be a best-of gallery curated by fans. Mods will shadowban your tag if they notice that you're posting your own drawings, especially if you're a Western artist because they are racist.

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Making your own blog is a great way to find fans who truly care about you. No fake engagement metrics and no algorithm gatekeeping. People consume your content intentionally instead of being pushed into it. It's 100% your space.
Just a website link they can bookmark and visit whenever they feel like seeing your latest work. It's pretty much the best creator-to-fan connection you can have.
Having your own blog as your main website + social media algo gambling is the best approach.

>>7892540
>Deviantart has losers on it.
>Newgrounds has losers on it.
The other sites have these people too. Would argue that Twitter, Instagram and Discord are far worse in this regards. Their losers are much more narcissistic and petty.

>>7897197
>The other sites have these people too.
yeah, but they actually have money though. NG and DA are filled with underage shitters and 3rd worlders which means no money.

>>7896610
when did this happen? I saw earlier in the month that 3rd world fags were having a melty about it being gone or something.

>>7893535
Don’t use Artstation. I deleted my account on there today. Like another anon said, it’s a dull website, but it’s also home to a lot of people trying to scam you with NFTs. They would email me gassing up my art saying it’s so good I want to buy it yadda yadda yadda and then they’ll drop a link to an NFT website and ask you to upload it there- but there’s a catch. You have to pay a “gas fee” (first one was literally $600) in order to upload your art. Once you hypothetically pay this fee, they pocket the money and the NFT is basically never made. I’ve gotten so many emails like that and it got so tiring that I just left the website. Deviantart is unironically better, also larger

>>7897274
what was their goal in the end? killed the fucking site for no reason. The only people that I would see still using artstation as a portfolio or whatever are fags or industry vets that have no other options(shit at marketing their art online/etc).

Are there any art websites that ban users for posting Ai?

>>7897284
Man I wish I knew. Website has a lot of potential too

>>7897291
Idk, but I doubt any will go that direction. With AI being so commonplace now, banning it is going to hurt the website more than anyone else.

>>7897294
>Idk, but I doubt any will go that direction
cause it inflates value and shows shareholders/advertisers that the site is "popular".
>banning it is going to hurt the website more than anyone else.
It wouldn't, sites that post gen ai only always dies/shuts down cause no one actively looks for that shit. There's a huge reason why so many aifags hide and lie about their gen ai usage. Same with calling stuff like oat milk and nut milk. Do you think people would actually want to drink something called oat juice or nut juice? fuck no, better call it milk to make it sound appetizing.

>>7897294
>With AI being so commonplace now, banning it is going to hurt the website more than anyone else
I think that's a shit take cuz a very small minority consumes that shit. AI shitters will also churn out hundreds of posts a day and flood any site that allows it until the site ends up having 90% of its total content as AI generated images.

>>7897291
>>7897294
There's cara, and it became big (for a short time) because of its anti-ai stance. I'm not sure how it's going now, but I don't think any of its failings would stem from that anti-ai position.
Is cara still active? I do hear about it occasionally, but obviously not nearly as much after its initial blowup.

>>7892538
>uhm did you know that character is a child?
yes, that's why I drew her. cry about it

>>7897294
The thing that AI does exceptionally well is wasting computer resources for output that’s worse than its input. You can fill terabytes of storage with shit within minutes for the low price of having to dedicate petabytes of storage to holding the training data. All services are already fucked by AI because of how expensive computer parts are, and you think that they should also all take the extra hit from having all the resources they already have being wasted on automated spam.

>>7892559
>>7892595
>>7892928
>>7893658
getting one's gallery purged at some advertiser's whim is not very based actually. newgrounds has been on a crazy "last bastion of free internet" larp for half of its existence now despite being totally cucked. even modern deviantart is less prudent

>>7897203
>yeah, but they actually have money though. NG and DA are filled with underage shitters and 3rd worlders which means no money.

So does those sites and many other sites. Being picky about which site you should post in doesn't seem like a good idea especially if you're looking for clout or money.

>>7897203
>but they actually have money though
psst... no one tell him about all the asspies who will pay you 60 bux for a beg-tier fetishist art of their waifu on DA.
>filled with underage shitters and 3rd worlders
They are more present on those other sites, since all their favorite e-celebs hangs out on them.

>>7893133
>khyle is modern shadman
now that you say it I kinda get what you mean

>>7897348
Well, I post almost all my work on Cara. Tbh it works way better as a portfolio site than social media. It seems some attempts were made to allow you to find jobs trough the site but afaik it hasn't amounted to much.

Also most of us who use it see it as kind of a place safe from places like twitter and instagram, so everyone tends to be very nice to each other, almost to a fault imo, but if you'd like the complete oposite of 4chan community-wise without getting to tumblr levels that's a choice.

>>7893292
Blogspot/blogger still exists, you could always give that a go. A part of me hopes there's a big Blogspot revival, because it can't be worse than what we've currently got.

>>7892585
My go-to fap connoisseur

>>7893097
"Ultra HDR"
>looks inside
"JPEG"

no JXL?

>>7893075
> his art was gross and nasty
Nigger fuck offf, are you a they/them?
We were all cracking that shit man , why are you even here. I was 12 when he drew that shit and I still don’t regret cracking my meat to it

>>7896612
>>7897423

Brother this board is filled with tumbrinas
4chin lost the culture wars

>>7905433
Like legit no one cared back then why moralfag 10 years later no one is gonna give you any brownie points

I want to make my own booru but I don't want to pay for a private server. I currently have a website but it's a shared hosting plan that's limited to wordpress. I was hoping I could somehow make a faux-booru wordpress site (aparantly there's a hentai "booru" that actually pulls it off pretty well but I've had no luck because of how complex it'd be plus I'm not any good at webdev

>>7905433
nta but you're a disgusting person my man, genuinely, I don't know what your parents were doing with you for you to be watching shadman shit at 12 but they clearly didn't care enough to raise you properly or they are dead.

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>>7905467
> nta but you're a disgusting person my man, genuinely
You are on 4chan your mother already dropped you as a kid ffs.

Why are you moralfagging on 4chan out of all places, this site literally has a cp board (/soc/), with niggas sharing their teleguard/kik/telegram usernames

>>7905486
Even when was 16 almost 10 years ago those niggas were sharing cheese pizza on this site. Like how can you be a moralfag over literally just drawings on such a degenerate website

If you are planning to self host and post NSFW content, it’s better to use platforms (like Patreon) that already handle the legal requirements for you.

>>7905486
>>7905490
Someone has to do it. For the good of the website.

>>7893476
Yeah, its exactly that. There is no php or back end. You might be able to rig something up with javascript

what about wordpress?
>these captchas are hella annoying!

>>7905458
That's not a Shadman pic.

>>7892529
https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/

>>7893461
Man posting art online will never as fun again as those pre-2010 Deviantart days

>>7892550
>>7892538
holy fuck what a faggot

>>7892550
>muh nazzies
>muh niggies
Fuck all the way off.

>>7892595
>>7892928
That just straight up isn't what "based" means. You're allowed to be a safe space normalfag but you're not allowed to pretend like you're going against the grain while doing it.

>>7911711
Based on what?

>>7896849
How is anyone even going to find it?

>>7896843
Not to mention boorus are the most scrapped sites on Earth and the first source for making Loras.

Isn't most socials just to promote/gain entry into places like vgen?

>>7897291
VGen apparently

All the popular sites are a gamble nowadays, you could get:
>A site with decent staff but Atari levels of compression
>A site with basically no compression but with staff who are either incompetent, or a recreation of WWII Germany
>A site somewhere in-between those but the community is hyper specific, batshit insane, or literal children
>A site that's perfect, but it's paywalled or invite only
Just pick a site and pray

If you want to make money - twitter will get you the most reach.
IMO starting out you need to build your twitter following by posting in alternate platforms
>Reddit
reddit is gay so its only useful early on, make sure your @ is on your art
>newgrounds
newgrounds is a dying site and the moderators are boomers so very meh nowadays
>youtube
you can get creative and make stuff centered around the creation of your work or if you do animations this is the best alternative to twitter
>pixiv
jap central they will only like your work if it looks truly japanese

>>7893133
>shadman
2010s isn't "back then", it was already well entrenched in what we have today. The 2000s was a totally different world online for art and in general though the bar for quality was much lower, in part due to lack of clear $camming opportunities and so being populated almost entirely by pure hobbyists

In regard to making your own website, especially if you do NSFW, be aware of the draconian age-verification laws that have been getting put in place in multiple countries over the past few years. In the US, you can both be fined by the state governments and be sued by individuals over state lines. Furthermore, many of the bills have nebulous definitions for what adult content is, most of them describing it as "content deemed harmful to minors," which could be misconstrued as being anything.

I no longer have a website because of this bullshit. I've made like 10 fresh iterations of my site over the years, all written completely from scratch with PHP, and these fucks took that away from me. I keep a Mega archive of my stuff now, but I miss getting to have fun designing and building my own website.

> muh Twitter
bots or faggots living 4 years in the past, unable to adapt.
Nowadays Twitter is only good if you had reach before the Musk takeover, or if you bring an audience from someplace else to it.