It is spiritually opposed to everything DaB stands for. You need 0 hours of it. Even an hour of it will probably just give you incurable brainworms.

>>7911247
Been a long time since I've seen anything related to Anya's Ghost.

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also like this

(ignore the game, i just like the shading and style.)

>>7911247
Drawabox is not for everyone, even the indian guy who created it makes it clear.

>>7911465
Anna Anthropy ftw
One of my favorite flash game designers and devs

>doesn't post his current skill
might as well be 50,000 hours

>>7911689
yeah im at beg-prebeg level lol

>>7911247
just learn construction man. you dont need drawabox you just need to learn how to draw 3d shapes and break things down into them

drawabox is a path to that but its really tedious and superfluous

>>7911247
drawabox is unironically a psyop I am serious
it's something designed to waste your time on a mindless task that only gives you the feeling of reward. get your favorite book among the 10000000 loomis clones and draw from life

>>7911247
Drawabox? Easily hundreds.

You can do it in a night or two with Loomis.

>>7911247
>>7911836
The ghost is literally a very basic loomis head attached to a bent cylinder with a couple scribbled-in arms.
The person is another low effort loomis head with a body that can be copied from a photo reference after maybe one or two tries, assuming you are learning from zero.

Drawabox has no interest in teaching you any of this, but Fun With a Pencil will get you there about halfway through the first chapter.

https://westcedarstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fun-With-a-Pencil.pdf

>>7911247
>>7911465
>Anya's Ghost
>Mighty Jill Off
Is this just a chance of making references to obscure old media?

just draw

>>7911846
So what is drawabox's point again? Being a scam?

>how many sandwiches do I have to make before I can cook an omelet
retard

>>7912607
I don't think it's designed as an intentional con or anything, but rather it suckers in pre-begs with the idea of "learning" to draw without actually teaching anything.
Most art tutorials have a questionable retention rate because people inevitably get frustrated when they are confronted with their own skill level and give up instead of practicing and pushing forward.
Drawabox takes advantage of this by saying "Don't worry about skill checks or how good your art looks! As long as you keep drawing these squares and triangles, eventually you will be a great artist!" which is pure snake oil made to feel like hard work without actually getting anywhere

>>7912650
not to mention when people internalize the boxes all their work becomes cold, stiff, and usually tilt-shifted

>>7912650
So then what would you say is a good way to learn? Loomis and similar books and just drawing what you want repeatedly?

>>7912717
Yes.

Different artists will inevitably have different preferred meathods or favorite books, (I always say to start with Fun with a Pencil), but as long as you are learning your fundamentals and working towards improving your art, you are on the correct track.
Sometimes it's as simple as googling "how to draw lips" if that is what you are struggling with, or studying how an artist you enjoy does things.

Remember that there's no right or wrong way to draw, so as long as you make sure you are learning things and practicing what you actually want instead of spamming cubes all day, you will see progress.

>>7912739
I did download a torrent with a whole long term thing for drawing but honestly it was insanely boring, just months upon months of drawing shapes and shit
I'd rather draw what I want and iron out bad habits later than spend years drawing le cubes and le cylinders to end up wanting to kill myself

>>7912745
I spent months doing exactly what you’re calling boring, and I barely improved.

>>7912607
It forces autistic 30 old beginners to draw lines of paper.

But since autistic 40 year old beginners can't do work outside homework, they will declare drawabox a scam.

But yeah DrawABox is just Dynamic Sketching compressed. So yeah basically a scam but really just a compressed lecture lab of Peter han courses

>>7912982
Dynamic Sketching is Just Scott Robertson How to draw so technically it ALSO a scam.

I agree with your general sentiment I don't think anyone who can actually draw worth a shit utilizing construction and form would ever look at something as basic as DAB and say it's a scam.
"Oh man breaking down complex forms into simplistic shapes and doing them multiple times for consistency is such a scam." Like I don't get it. I'm creatively retarded and lack a strong visually imagination with an overly analytical brain and yet I've still grown with something as simplistic as Dab

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>>7912717
See the attached flowchart.

Learning how to draw first starts with observation. If you can't look at something and put down something approximating it onto your page, you will struggle with 3D/construction. Those are very useful but that's skipping too many steps.

But if you can't even draw a line with wobbling or being wildly off, then you DO need to do SOME line exercises. You just don't need to go that far. Just get comfortable drawing somewhat straight lines then move onto observational drawing. Once you get that down, learn perspective and form.

If you rush into 3D/perspective/form, you're going to struggle way more than you need to. It's possible, it's just significantly harder. I know this because I skipped observational drawing and suffered for it by making virtually no improvement.

>>7913258
Can I replace Draw A Box with Dynamic Sketching (already have the videos), or is that too complex?

>>7913400
I think Draw a Box is just a revamped version of Dynamic Sketching. The issue is that both of them get into form/perspective WAY too early. I don't remember how exactly Peter Han did it. If you just focus on his lines/curves exercises, then yea. You're good. But I don't recommend going beyond that until you have a decent ability to copy. Doesn't have to be perfect, just good enough.

>>7913406
Doubt it's "revamped" considering it's free. I imagine it's overall of lesser quality

>>7913415
I guess that wasn't the right word. I guess "robust" is a better word? It has way more information on how to do the exercises than the Dynamic Bible from what I remember. The DB just says to do these exercises, use your arm, blah blah, but doesn't really go into as much detail as DAB does.

Even though I think DAB is a terrible resource for beginners, the first few pages are actually very useful. But once he starts to get into perspective, that's when it all falls downhill. You're better off using other resources beyond his initial line exercises.

In other words dont do drawabox if you're an adhdfag

if drawabox worked you'd see people spamming countless successful examples and even posting the creator's own work.

>>7917800
Drawabox was helpful for someone like me who has an "Analytical Brain" I draw pretty competently now utilizing some of it's methods. Without it, I would have spun my wheels and been terrible for a very long time. I do not have any element of "talent" or real "It factor" within me I only have persistence.

I find people like me constantly. Folks who suck at drawing, hate that they suck at drawing, hate themselves because they suck at drawing. In fact I feel /ic/ is dominated primarily by people like me. Self loathing hopefuls that want/need the golden answer to improvement. But I realize that there are like three separate states we can fall into.

The first are the people who are able to get a eureka moment and begin learning how to use the information they've gained to make all other concepts and future concepts easier. Link A to B and B to C sort of speak.
The second group of people are the one who are persistent, but they never really internalized the goal or purpose behind any of the shit they do and it's all just grinding to grind, they never take like the practicing of forms and try to utilize them in their construction practices. (As an example).
The third group I'd say are the people who are some what apart of group two along with people who are less persistent than them becoming extremely disillusioned and jumping from practice course to practice course hoping any single one thing will lead to a break through while also not trusting anything.

>>7911247
artist?

>>7911247
for the OP, just do a shit ton of gesture and life drawing

>>7911262
pyw crab

>>7917832
the book is 'anya's ghost' by vera Brosgol

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>>7911689
This is my current skill level. Im fairly decent at copying life objects too