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I have been browsing this board for almost 4 years, i now go to an art university in Canada and my goal is to one day pitch my show to cartoon network or nickelodeon, you guys have always been honest with me.
I have my art portfolio and after i finish my uni i wanna get more serious about it.
Do you think i can do it?
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>>7912524
>Do you think i can do it?
No, but no fault of your own. TV networks are circling the drain, and Cartoon Network was rapidly deteriorating even before that. There's probably more market in streaming services.
Also, you might have to work a few years farther down on the totem pole before being able to pitch a series. Getting a job as a boarder or animator is a more realistic start than jumping right into a leadership position.
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>>7912567
hey OP here, one of my ideas to get into the industry was to prepare my portfolio to show to artists in comic cons or fan expos
you think that would work?
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>>7912566
I wasn't referring to that, but rather that the president of CN is the same dipshit who tried to push a bunch of live action programming on a cartoon channel
It's only a matter of time before CN is dead, as if constant reruns of TTG wasn't enough to do it
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>>7912559
but here is the thing im more of a comic artist or character designer and i dont really do animation... do you think i should now that im in Uni? i know JQ the creator of regular show first got famous by his short animation
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>>7912524
It took zach hadel until his 30s to get his show on adult swim, and he was independently successful in animation and well connected with a good reputation. In addition, he had a novel, visually interesting idea. Not saying it’s impossible, just highly unlikely and difficult.
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>>7912591
yes desperation also plays a role, op should watch king of comedy, lots of people do these half assed "pitches" and dont factor in how it looks from the perspective of the other guy. Prove yourself first and worry about being a "professional" later, or dont take my advice op, do what you feel like, I'm a nobody and am just giving my limited perspective.
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>>7912524
>Do you think i can do it?
I hope you are AT LEAST a jewish Black transwomyn with vitiligo on a wheelchair and hands like crab pincers and half your face melted off and special pronouns I've never seen before, otherwise NGMI if you don't look like a Cronenberg monster you're too privileged and a literal Nazi for even trying.
Unless of course you live in California and daddyś got money and you suck jew dick at Calarts.
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>>7912591
Yeah thats sorta what im doing for my comic, basically writing a storyboard for a movie.
Really I've just structured it and shot it like a movie cause im more of a movie guy than a comic guy, which has helped me understand where i wanna go with my story, and how to write the beats. Odds are nothings gonna come over it, which im fine with,
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>>7912524
>Do you think i can do it?
The biggest issue isn't your talent or your pitch - it looks like both CN and Nick are getting the can.
The American animation industry as a whole is going through it pretty badly at the moment, because of a series of fairly terrible business decisions; often making shows that were profitable but almost entirely unprofitable, because they couldn't make or sell merch for the shows; making shows that appealed to an audience outside of their target demographic, thus exasperating the merchandising issues; and terrible show time tables, such as essentially turning themselves into 24 hours channels for Teen Titans GO! and Spongebob, respectively.
The final nail is that their parent companies just do not seem to care about them, or animation, and are seemingly quite happy to kill off what remains of these husks.
Luckily there are other means of distributing and making cartoons, like pitching to streamers or going indie, but they're both less reliable and seemingly less accessible than the old networks.
So we can evaluate the art of your portfolio and pitch when the time comes, but who knows how this shitty market will be at that time.
I wish you luck.
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>>7912571
>my goal is to one day pitch my show to cartoon network or nickelodeon
>i dont really do animation
Well, which is it?
Why is it your dream to make a cartoon, but not animate?
>>7912706
I'd heard Michael Ouweleen was part of it, and Atoms cited him as the primary reason a lot of animators left CN
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>>7912524
I work in Content development for my local branch of Netflix, you can always pitch it to stream.
Your best bet is to provide a full on pilot for me to watch.
The more I watch your pitch, the more inclined I am to recommend your product for production.
If you have a full 18-22min fully voiced pilot, some music here and there (some minor details like a background missing a couple times it's ok), that's a strong as fuck pitch, you have good chances here. "Finish this one and send me the file, I'll schedule with the creative executive"
If you have a 5-10 minutes animatic that runs on the background, with a presentation design book, that's an pitch, but you better have some mindblasting ideas, and some IP claim or a known actor on board. You have slim chances here.
"We'll think about it, prepare another pitch for (6 to infinity months) with the suggestions I made"
If you are an literal who with a design presentation and your personal 2min youtube animation reel on the background you'll never make it.
"Thanks for coming, we'll call you if we are interested(not)"
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>>7912524
No, also the best producers are animators themselves, the whole "pitch your pilot" thing where writers ran the show never made any sense. I would spend the time becoming an animator first and then make shorts for youtube or something and try make that work.
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