did they post the brushes?

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some pens are more forgiving than others ink pens being the hardest and most unforgiving
but they look so awesome
so i use kritas ink gpen even though i suck at it

>>7916398
>some pens are more forgiving than others ink pens being the hardest and most unforgiving
true
>but they look so awesome
true

>so i use kritas ink gpen even though i suck at it
what you said above pertains to traditional ink pens. no matter what brush you use, digital media makes everything forgiving.

>>7916443
nothing easy about digital, you're fighting against the screen and the software. It takes a lot of effort to make a brush that feels like a real pen.

>>7916459
>nothing easy about digital
>nothing
there are certainly things that trad makes easier, but saying digital doesn't have a TON of ways to make your life easier with it, is pure coping.
in the example of ink pens, when it comes to trad you basically can't fix anything unless you use white-out, which makes it virtually impossible to make a proper correction afterwards. this is why they call this medium so unforgiving.
with digital you can undo any line, and then erase them and fix them any amout of times you want.

>>7916460
you're right, theres tons of effects and brushes and tricks but I dont use any of them. I'm just talking about pure hard round brush, thats much harder than using a pencil.

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>>7916443
digital ink pens are harder than say opacity pens so it still works
>>7916460
>cant undo in trad
pic related draws with a pencil 1st and then does ink

>>7916351
For doodling? I like drawing with a size 3 square pixel brush, sort of akin to what you'd find in mspaint. I also find colour is important - I find it hard to sketch in black, and prefer a light grey instead.

>>7916465
>pic related draws with a pencil 1st and then does ink
we were talking about using pen ink alla prima. that's the unforgivable kind of mediums discussed.

>>7916398
guys who can just vibe draw with ink on paper are psychopaths

>>7916398
what pen is that? I see it everywhere

>>7916475
G

>>7916474
you'll come up with any excuse imaginable for why you shouldn't feel bad about your own shortcomings.
spineless cowards like you are what makes the world such a shitty place.

>>7916351

whenever i paint digitially (which is not often, i'm a pixel artist), i just use pixel artist brushes all quick and dirty and use heavy gaussian blur to do quick shading, then i use color adjustment curves and color to alpha tools to trim how much of the blur i want to keep.

>>7916460
>>7916468
>we were talking about using pen ink alla prima.
We sketch first to get around this issue trivially. Why is everyone so goddamn retarded here? Are you seriously telling me you've been pwning yourself for months (years??) by direct fucking ink drawing, when you're a beginner? Who do you think you are? Use pencils. Pencils are good.

>>7916459
>nothing easy about digital
How many times can you draw a line with no consequences?

>>7916351
why is right much better? Even the rough lines look better, it makes no sense. How am I supposed to decide the correct thickness and darkness for each line on the fly?

>>7916577
Asian genes

>>7916475
That's a fountain pen.

>>7916530
I have been drawing digital for 15 years now.
I usually draw with sketches first, but sometimes I do stuff without an underdrawing just for the fun of it.
when you are experienced enough, you can pull it off.

>>7916577
it comes with experience. think of lineart as stylized occlusion shadows instead of outlines of objects and your lineart will become instantly better.

>>7916351
i like brushes that allow me to draw on one layer. like a light touch or drawing with the side of the nib gets me thicker lines, a harder touch or the tip of the nip gets me sharper lines. anything that feels reactive like that is nice
brushes that are forgiving too and have some sort of texture or shape to them as well, hard round scares me. i don't know why it matters but it does

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>>7916351
I love the default pencil brush from Sketchbook on Android.

I like the default g-pen from Clip Studio Paint. I feel handicapped if I have to draw lines with anything else.

>>7916598
thicker and fainter lines
i love juju line

>>7916468
Not really that unforgivable, you can always use whiteout or a knife to remove ink, or sometimes just put down more ink.
Colored ink painting, now that's a nightmare.

>>7916674
>you can always use whiteout
>>7916460
>>7916460
>you basically can't fix anything unless you use white-out, which makes it virtually impossible to make a proper correction afterwards.

>>7916459
>It takes a lot of effort to make a brush that feels like a real pen.
Well, digital's strengths are not in emulating the feeling of analog work. That's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

>>7916465
>>7916530
Having a sketch doesn't prevent mistakes, nor does it prevent circumstances of inking it then realizing it doesn't look right and wanting to do it over.

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>>7916869
Sketching in pencil, and taking the time to get the details right, will prevent 98% of very bad, unrecoverable mistakes. What's more, if you're really worried about making a mistake, you can do a quick study on the side - illustrators like Leyendecker did these rather elaborately.
For some reason /ic/ either pretends not to understand or genuinely does not understand how the drawing process works in physical media. I'm not sure which is worse. Traditional drawing is not a Herculean feat of perfectionism, there are safety nets and techniques to prevent fuckups in it as well as there are in digital. You can think of pencil sketching as doing the majority of the work, and inking being equivalent to the final pass in digital.

>>7916888
>98%
So you do make mistakes? Why are you disagreeing with me then?

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>>7916893
Do you think the point of art is to make perfectly drafted lines as if by a plotting machine or something? What the fuck? Artists make mistakes, and they roll with them. I've never ruined a solid pencil sketch so badly by mistake that the drawing was unfixable. There's nothing you can do that is that is so catastrophically destructive to a drawing, that you lose more than 30 minutes of time at most.
Unless you're doing some bullshit that has to go on a dollar bill, your shit just isn't that precious.

>>7916900
>all this incoherent babble instead of just recognizing we agree
Oh. It's a bot. Now I feel dumb.

>>7916902
I fundamentally disagree with you and every retard here who makes a big stink about trad vs digital, and one being easier than other other. I think you have a totally wrong idea of what art is about that is likely preventing you from getting good.

>>7916888
Once you're stupid and poor enough, you legit don't have a concept of the future to plan ahead for anymore.
They literally can't think ahead, so of course this shit mystifies them.

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>>7916351
don't know how to actually properly show the settings lol, but i use this one i modified from the csp default brushes. wouldn't say it made drawing easier but it's certainly a lot smoother.

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i would cry without my brush

>>7916468
>we were talking about using pen ink alla prima.
no the thread is about digital pens and the discussion chain started out talking about digital pens
thx for derailing though

>>7917079
I just replied to an anon's statement I disagree with. who the fuck cares if it's slightly off topic.

>>7916351
I like the default hard round brush with opacity set to around 90-100% and brush density (flow in PS) set to 10% - gives it that smooth, pencil-like feel.

>>7917167
I can't do this because I use the same brush to erase, so if its at 90% opacity then it won't erase the line fully.....

changing my hotkeys to toggle between brush and eraser tool is too many steps and will require me to change my habits

>>7917295
Krita is so stupid it's unreal

>>7917295
what a dumb and lazy mentality lmao. No wonder you can't improve, you are just too stupid to be an artist.

>>7917295
There's so many solutions to this. How do you even switch to erase mode in the first place, a keybind toggle, or do you flip your stylus?
You could just toggle eraser preset with the same bind you toggle eraser mode with.
You can also keep erase and brush mode opacity separate with a toggle in the brush editor.
I don't think you need to change a habit, at worst it's a short script to toggle erase mode and set opacity to 100%, and then the reverse.

>>7917376
life conditioned me to not try to improve things

>>7917295
Lol i do the same thing to erase. I should just add the default eraser to my favourites desu.

That said i use opacity brushes anyway

>>7916530
lmao at your life if you still have to sketch. i go straight to ink. you're still in diapers

So what's the brush for the right drawing?

>>7916351
csp g-pen and a hard round with opacity by pressure
that's everything I use right now...

>>7917836
basic csp mechanical pencil

>>7916351
this is proof that talent exists. He worked less hard on the figure on the right, but it looks better because his brush let his muscle memory flow. Good artists are not working harder than bad artists, its actually the opposite.

People work hard on turds, thats why they're turds. When you know what to do, you can just do it with less effort.

>>7918969
>He worked less hard on the figure on the right
Looks like the opposite to me. If anything left looks intentionally half-assed to make the right appear better. A lot of the line art differences can be done with the hard brush used on the left, plus the pose is a bit more dynanic and fun, he actually drew the snout, the feet, the tail etc. Basically, this is not an honest comparison. Your takeaway is built on a fraudulent foundation.