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>>7944797

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>>7944801

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>>7944802

>>7944797
she looks like she fucks uncles

>>7944824
Seek help, your brain is sick.

>>7944829
yeah, because I'm the one posting succulent little uncle fuckers

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>>7944824
Anon that’s a boy

>>7944824
>>7944873
Stop. Samefaging. Schizo.

>>7944902
less fumes inhaley, more of meds availey

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Back at it with the calligraphy lines

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tried to copy the ico poster art on acrylics

>>7945150
that's great, i think that illustration was actually inspired by another painting or style, don't remember who tho

>>7945150
Did the same study ages ago, with acrylics as well.

>>7945150
Beau travail

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>>7945153

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>>7945153
Do Chirico, an El Greco like figure for Spanish surrealists. Italian painter preceding a major movement that tried to distance himself from them more and more as he got older (he eventually became something of a hacky realist like Bernard, after Gauguin abandoned France and Van Gogh was long dead)

>>7945170
>>7945197
wow really had no idea there was much story behind the illustration, I choosed it to study because of the warm liminal feeling plus the nostalgia component, something that scapes me with pure surrealism, though that chirico also has very interesting works, thanks you anons for the info

>struggling with color for a while now, realized I can't actually identify colors of what I'm looking at
>decide to take my paint swatches on a walk and compare them to things to get a sense of bearing
>mfw random flowers mog the shit out of cads and quins
I noticed flowers being crazy chromatic before, but I just brushed it off as receiving a shit ton of light, but no, a fucking poppy is redder than anything I have and random yellow and orange flowers are more yellow/orange than cads
greens and blues are basically the only chromatic colors we have, apparently
magenta is also very good, but I didn't come across any appropriate flowers to compare, maybe it's kinda shitty too

>>7945434
Show me your values.

>>7945492
spare me the reddit advice until you can post something that isn't shit

>>7945526
>until you can post something that isn't shit
Thats the point, you cosmic retard, you cant even post something with decent values. Until then, you have no business talking about cads being too weak.

>>7945533
>nooooo you don't have my permission to use color, you can only practice value without color because colors don't have value
>hurr durr btw
I'm better than everyone in this thread, so I'm not gonna take regurgitated reddit advice from a shitter lol
stay mad and poor

based

>>7945536
You are a pre-beg and a lol cow. But enough compliments.
Your theory game is weak.
You have my permission to paint with color, but your problems with color are based on your weak values. If you understood value, you would understand exposure. Of course no paint can compete with something lit directly by daylight. And of course its not necessary.
Thats the first thing you learn. You dont copy the reality 1 to 1, you work with relations.
The brightness of your cads, is what you supposed to exposure your painting to.

>I can paint you the skin of Venus with mud, provided you let me surround it as I will.

This famous quote describes the importance of the relations between the colors.
The brightest possible red paint, would not add anything to the quality of your paintings, au contraire.

>>7945562
nice redditpost, where's your work lol

>>7945566
>reddit
>pyw
Brian, Brian, Brian...

>>7945562
>I could
Uh-huh, just like his buttbuddy Ingres could learn to paint in one hour. Let's see his mud Venus.
>According to records from the Musée National Eugène-Delacroix and his personal studio notes, Delacroix relied heavily on a specific set of foundational pigments:
>Reds & Oranges: Vermilion, Cadmium Red, and his signature intense Cadmium Orange.
>Yellows: Cadmium Yellow, Naples Yellow, and Yellow Ochre.
>Blues: Prussian Blue and Cobalt Blue.
How very curious.

>>7945582
>Uh-huh, just like his buttbuddy Ingres could learn to paint in one hour.
It is true, if you think about it.
>Not only can color, which is under fixed laws, be taught like music, but it is easier to learn than drawing, whose elaborate principles cannot be taught.

>>7945584
Sure buddy, just all the permabegs could totally render but just choose not to because it's beneath them. Fuck off.
Also, the irony of using Delacroix to promote fundamentals when Ingres famously got an aneurysm and spilled coffee on himself because Delacroix was a shitter at drawing whom he considered a rendermonkey.

>>7945584
>another reddit quote
this is why I'll always be better at painting than you lol

Why do these threads always turn into this

>>7945588
Low resolution thinking.
Its not about his rendering or drawing skill. Its about the relationships between colors and and values. The main point is, if you cant paint nice flowers with cads, you are a retard and the only solution is to kill yourself.
The most obvious noob trap is the gear trap.
If you think your yellow cad is not strong enough, to paint nice flowers, the solution is to paint them with yellow ocker instead.

>>7945595
Brian has a humiliation fetish.

>>7945596
You totally obliterated that strawman, too bad you made it up and nobody said any of that retarded shit. Pliny cried about nufangled painters using colors other than the Appelles palette and bemoaned indigo and red, the materials were nonetheless superior and allowed for better paintings no matter what the retard believed.
>hurr durr someone painted with red dirt and yellow dirt, therefore we don't need real color
Fuck off.

>>7945599
You lying bastard.

That's what you identified as your problem.
>struggling with color for a while
That was your solution
>mfw random flowers mog the shit out of cads and quins

No, you fentanyl punk, cads are not the reason why you strugling with color, its your skill.

>>7945606
Take your meds, schizo, that doesn't say what your nigger brain thinks it says and you're arguing with multiple people, none of which are Brian, who doesn't even use cads or pricy paint afaik. I think he said he uses BS, vermillion, naples yellow and prussian blue.
Why the fuck are you even in these threads, you literally don't even paint anymore, fuck off to your digicuck cope thread.

>>7945608
Well, i cant deny a spark of logic in what youre saying, maybe i mixed some people up, Brian.
I lost interest in digital painting overnight, now im planing my big comeback to oil.
Anyway, you dont wanting me here, is reason enough for me to stay.

>>7945611
What I don't want is you shitting up the thread to compensate for literally not painting because you feel like the fraud that you are. Pick up a brush, fag.

>>7945613
You are projecting way too hard.

>>7945619
You're literally here every fucking day seething at imaginary Brians while literally not painting. Get a grip, retard.

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>>7944797

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>>7945595

>>7945434
retard

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For all the people actually drawing, keep doing what you're doing and godspeed, friends. We need you now more than ever to combat the evergrowing flood of AIslop and digital slop.

>>7945890
no, we need to gatekeep our art and destroy them before we die so that people wont be able to see and enjoy art anymore.
Once artists have dropped their ego and show/post their art only within fellow artists circle/community and kicked away normies and non-artist from it, that will be the day where art have won against ai slop and artist will reach their sovereignty - detaching themselves from the curse of servitude towards humanity

>>7945926
just because god gives an artist a talent and vision to identify the illness of this world it doesnt mean that artists are obliged to make the world a better place and clean someone elses mess like a janny

>>7945926
My post was for the people that draw and you don't draw.

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Pastels portrait practice, I somehow found them harder to work with than oil pastels, while I could have sworn it was the other way around years ago when I first tried both

>>7946050
Good work, fellow orientalist.

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>Good work, fellow orientalist.

modern art is possibly a legit 1% attempt of mental warfare against the general goyslave population. they're sadistically taking a dump on you with mind viruses.

Are water-mixable oil paints good? I want to attempt some Frazetta-esque pictures that would be better as traditional paintings instead of digital illustrations, or the mixed-media things I've done in the past, with ink and acrylics and POCs (pencils of colour). I'd just use oils but I dread turpentine vapours

>>7946225

No, they are vastly inferior to regular oils. You don’t -have- to use turp/OMS. And if you do you’re pretty safe as long as you properly ventilate your workspace.

>>7946236
>You don’t -have- to use turp/OMS
You kinda do if you rarely paint

>>7946116
I made a video on this topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j0gj-UIo9g
>>7946225
Its a useless gimmick. If you need water salability, buy a medium that can do that, i dont see the need to buy extra tubes.

>>7946050
Nice job, you captured the pain in her eyes as such she's stuck in a situation or place that is never going to get better.

>>7946358
t-the painting?

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>>7946376
Yes.

>>7946358
Thank you! I might post it on my ig, a bit rough but someone might appreciate the little things, like you

>>7946085
>Thanks, stay strong, orientalist

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>>7946528
No problem and you should post it. A simple painting has the power to change someone's life like pic related. It saved Bill Murray from killing himself and it inspired him to keep going.
https://youtu.be/8eOIcWB7jSA

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>>7944797
from life

>>7946763
Wonderful work

>>7946763
That's a blue collar Dad bod right there.

>>7946763
were you making eye contact while modeling the cock?

>>7946881
you have to feel the forms

>>7946763
Penis too large, otherwise very nice (even though i am a little bit skeptical thats it's really yours without proof)

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there are people so mentally challenge here they think that their problem is that the available pigments “aren’t bright enough”
old masters would have skinned you alive for access to pure pigments we have now. stupid fapper retards

>>7946763
Insanely good

>>7946050
You guys are retarded. It looks so good just post it.

>>7946763

I am so jelly of people who get to sculpt. Looking wonderful, anon.

>>7946881
Yes
>>7946940
lol I guess you’ll have to be skeptical then
>>7946968
It’s so much fun. I wish sculpting was more popular but it’s so niche the community, especially for figurative sculpture is so cool.

>>7946942
>things nobody said make me mad

holy fuck you niggers are either deranged or the larping schizo is still samefagging
I said I took swatches out to directly compare my perception of color against, in the process of which I realized flowers are more chromatic than any paint
at no point did I even imply I need better paint to paint said flowers
take your fucking meds

>>7946763
Looks like he might come to life at night and rape me

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>>7946881
>>7946940
Care to explain why you're looking at his cock, anon?

>>7947125
is... is that not the focal point of the piece?

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Portrait from today. From life.

>>7947166
Damn that looks pretty realistic, the nasolabial folds, nose and lips really sell it. Must be a surreal experience seeing the face come to life right infront of you with your own hands.

>>7947166
Looks Great

>>7947166
>>7946763
How far are you from actually producing sculptures?

>>7947186
It’s ok. I wish it was as magical as it seems when seeing someone make art. It’s still just as much of a challenge from when I first started, however the concepts get more subtle and difficult to grapple with.
>>7947218
Thank you
>>7947255
Like for public monuments? Or just finishing these specific pieces?

>>7947277
I mean how much work do you need to do before you work with stone or metal or whatever, I'm assuming this is basically the sculpting equivalent of a study for a painting.
Don't get me wrong, it looks great and you're clearly skilled, it just strikes me as a charcoal study kind of thing, I have no idea how advanced you need to be to take the risk of fucking up a stone block or something.

>>7947295
You are comparing two different things with their own set of difficulties. Using a hand drill to make a stone sculpture is entirely different than using something like a chainsaw to sculpt a wooden sculpture.

>>7947308
Ok? Charcoal drawing is different from oil painting, that's a meaningless tangent

>>7947377
Not being the brightest bulb in the bunch makes it hard to understand, I'm sure.

>>7947400
You would know

do i really have to stretch my watercolor paper bros? that process is so fucking tedious and I hate to do that before painting my stuff. can i just... paint in there after i sketch my drawing, without stretching those paper?

>>7947495
Depends on how you paint, the paper sizing and weight. If it's buckling when you paint, then yes.

>>7947497
i dont really use excessive wet on wet method so far and i tend to paint on small a5 sized paper (its a cutdown from one big sheet of paper and not a watercolor pad or block)

>>7947503
Sizing, not size. Like I said, if it's buckling, you need to change something, otherwise who cares

>>7947504
i use arches and fontaine, both cold pressed. arches said that it use gelatin sizing, i have no idea about fontaine.

>>7947295
Sculpting is just one aspect of it. Putting it in the final medium is a trade in itself. I primarily do bronze. This requires; mold making, wax casting, metal chasing and welding. Carving isn't too bad. Especially when pointing. you can fuck up and "bruise" the stone. However you have to really not be paying attention, or let your hand slip when using pneumatics.

You don't just go directly into stone, and carve. you can do that, however pointing the stone for a perfect 1-1 is how I was taught and leads to better results.

All this being said, I normally just cast into plaster or aqua-resin if I'm not doing bronze.

>>7947166
Do you draw?

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switched back to acrylics for a bit, its nice to have a full value range

>>7948037
the t-rex looks really good, but the sloppy foreground things kinda ruin it, they look like ducks or ostriches or something

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>>7948040

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>>7948037
This is really nice, great work

>>7947814
yes, but I'm not great. picrel is a 3 hour block in drawing I did. I'm going to do intensive drawing very soon, lots of long pose figure studies.

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>>7948246
another older one

>>7948246
What's the process for shading like this? What tools do you use?

>>7948269
Just graphite pencils.

Its just thinking about form and "crawling" on it. Paper is shellac'd and with a pink pigment but its much easier to use cheap storebought paper. With this stuff materials don't really matter. I often will use the cheapest papermate mechanical pencils.

>>7948271
i want to crawl on her forms

>>7948037
oh wait, I had night shift on, it actually sucks

>>7948253
WOW!

>>7948246
>but I'm not great
Dude, have you seen what 99% of people here post

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>>7948037
I love this, it scratches my dinoautism itch,
maybe the main subject lacks contrast? I have applied some light filter as possible example

>>7948040 gallimimus look like, so yeah big ostriches

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>>7948037
>nice to have a full value range
>>7948253
>>7948246
Not bad.

>>7948271
Thanks. I'm new to drawing with real pencils and my shading game is just terrible.

>>7948253
Very nice

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>>7948246
Don’t even joke lad.
You should try to find how long it takes to draw hands/feet, maybe even full expressive face, as efficiently as the rest of the body. If it takes longer to draw hands it’d be better to sacrifice the other body measurements to get the hands correct.

Even if you spend the entire time drawing the hands it’d be better than ignoring them, it’s all measured at the end of the day and drawn from life so theres no benefit to drawing the whole body if you have to scribble in the foot and hands at the end. Sorry that critique took forever it takes a long time for me to explain thing

>>7948370
Yes, however where I study everyone is much much better than I am and I’m not exaggerating. It’s all relative.

>>7948454
Sometimes you can use a stump but a hard pencil is more controllable than a really soft one imo.

Does /trad/ have a discord? Should I make one?

>>7948821
fuck off

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i'm about to start learning how to paint (oils). I'll mostly do portraits. I can draw pretty well already, and I know that when learning to draw, one way to make life unnecessarily difficult for yourself is to pick bad references, say, ones where the light is coming form multiple sources or is otherwise irregular or confusing or obfuscating the form, or ones where the face is at an unusual or extreme angle. I guess I'm asking whether there are similar rules of thumb or things to look out for when picking references for painting?
Like background (light or dark), light sources (direct sunlight, overcast, artificial light, etc.) or other things? Would pic related be a place to start? There are similar pics like it all over pinterest, all shot at a fairly neutral angle, muted background and single light source pointed directly at the face.

>>7949560
What is your goal?

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>>7949563
for now, i guess just realism, broadly construed.

I have a folder of paintings I've collected to try and get a sense of what I want to aim for. It has become a bit sprawling, though, but something like pic related (Krøyer) would definitely be one aim of mine.

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>>7949600
another one from my goals folder

>>7949560
read faragasso's student's guide to painting for lighting setups in painting terms

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shit apple

>>7949603
>>7949600
Look her>>7927695
Or by a mirror and paint from life

>>7949600
>>7949603
>>7949560
> can draw pretty well already
It's a bit surprising that you have such questions if you know how to draw pretty well honestly. You may want to double check that. You may already know enough to paint comfortably though.

> I guess I'm asking whether there are similar rules of thumb or things to look out for when picking references for painting?
If you're just starting with oils, it doesn't matter that much. Focus on learning how to mix colors you see, how to apply paint, learn and practice strategies for building a portrait with oils.

Cameras alter hues and values. This can be compensated by clever shooting, digital alteration of the references, or by you editing stuff. Generally speaking, light changes, people move. You need to become less sensitive to such minor variations.

Studying paintings is probably the best thing you can do.

Good drawing paper that's not too expensive? Like that Chinese watercolor paper you can buy in rolls?

>>7950348
Baohong is what you're thinking of, but using it for drawing is pretty dumb. You can get 37cmx10m for like $40 and free shipping on temu with credit back after the first one

>>7950352
>>7950348
Oh and btw if you're in the EU, you're getting kiked out of cheap Chinese materials starting in July, so order now

>>7950352
I'm asking for a Chinese drawing paper with a similar price value.

>>7950354
Germany will fire up the production machines again? Good, time for Hans to do something useful.

>>7950357
production? no sweatie, you're just gonna pay more for chinese crap
good news though, the taxes will help ille- I mean irregular migrants find a better life for their 26 children

>>7950352
its fine, most people who boughteding hot press watercolor paper are using that paper for dry media works like graphite, charcoal, and colored pencil drawing

>>7950523
I'm not saying it's the wrong paper, most graphite renderfags use cotton paper, I just think it's dumb to do it if you're concerned with the cost in the first place

>>7950528
hmm that's a good point

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Anybody got a pdf?

>>7951414
stop posting these scribbles

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just finished this piece. aqua resin and rebar+concrete base. Tried to make the patina look like cast iron. Used milkpaint and spraypaint.

If I had more time I could make it better but even if its not perfect I like how the color turned out.

>>7951414
do you do this with charcoal?
organic lines are so hard for me to draw

>>7951464
Not him but that is clearly ballpoint pen anon, use your elbow more than your wrist for better lines (of all kind), it WILL feel funky if you're only used to doodling at a school desk but it is worth it, let us know when you do!

>>7951433
Nah, I’m good

>>7951464
And nah this is ballpoint

>>7951433
I like his scribbles and he's better than you, pussy.

>>7951593
Thanks anon. I don’t even bother with people that don’t post their work when giving responses like that.

>>7951593
What do you like about them?

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>>7951687
I like that his art makes you seethe, an artist that can evoke emotion through their work is a true masterclass craftsman in the arts.

>>7951433
Pyw

>>7951734
No point, he already got ass raped by ballpoint water anon

>>7951462
I like the modeling on the figure, as well as the finish. Very nice stomach compression. Looking at the breast must be the same model from your drawing. Obviously far away from the Hellenistic ideal body, but is it already subversion or just realism? I personally like it, some realism in art is a good think for sure, for me here it is.
Thats for the figure. The whole thing is an abomination, the eclectic nature of it itself is no good, as a concept. A flowy figure and brutalism structures, very hard to right. Without it looking like something from a cyber punk anime. I hate the proportions, rebars are to thick compared to the figure, the base is too small to be "brutal". It looks like the figure as heavier as the base. No texture contrast, everything is rough, colors do not harmonize nor do they really contrast each other.

You have the craftsmanship to do good, but you must get rid of all the modernist shit that was put in your head. Otherwise, you will end as most others who perused technical excellence, the postmodernists will make you produce kitsch and even gaslight you into liking it.
Look at Brian, in a different environment, the guy could be a good draftsman, but he decided to become a clown. Im sure there was a point in his life, where he thought, im a smart guy, i will wear a mask and subvert the subverters, but now the clown make up permanently fused with his skin. A sad story, really.

>>7951757
If you ever wonder why you got nowhere in art or life, you can look back at posts like these as to why.

>>7951414
There is difference between calligraphy and lettering. Lettering is retarded and you are doing it. And you are doing it with an opacity-pressure brush. But you've already shown your resistance to advice, so whatever, keep doing.

>>7951774
Calm down femboy, it's just a drawing.

>>7951768
You know who else they said stuff like that about?

>>7951780
>femboy
I wish.
>it's just a drawing
Francis Vatel killed himself over a fish and what is a fish compared to a drawing.

>>7951781
You wouldn't know, you're just a spectator of the trade at best, a mere wannabe.

>>7951593
they suck ass, there’s zero illusion of volume to his “drapery”
it’s schizo tier
why the fuck are you pressing so hard on the paper

>>7951768

he's not wrong though in his critcism though

>>7951489
there are good ballpoint pen artists who are able to depict three dimensional volumes even without shading
it would help if his marks actually followed the form or made sense in any way

i’m not seething (except that my retro gaming handheld got fucked up and wiped its data a couple hours ago, i am seething over that) just puzzles he keeps making the same mistakes over and over for multiple threads now
but this is like the island of misfit toys for mentally ill artists so i shouldn’t be surprised. i miss the himmler poster

remember when there was a guy here sculpting a bust of marky
truly strange and unusual times

>>7951818
Keep crying faggot, I can't wait for his next water drawing so I can add it to my water collection.

>>7951713
Doesn't sound like you like his art.

>>7951837
what the fuck is a water drawing
take your meds

>>7951757
Can you post your work so I can understand what you mean

gotta agree with the gypsy on this one

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>>7951859
I always wanted to start sculpting, but it was too unpractical. So i decided to do more sculpture studies. But then i had to clean up after drawing and i decided to draw digitally, for a while. It was more than half a year ago...
Another sad story, actually.
So do what i say, not what i do.

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Fuck me I just woke up and can’t believe my Bridgman studies have caused this much seethe.

Since someone is very clearly offended at my use of calligraphy lines I’ll post work that doesn’t use any at all. Lmfao

>>7951774
lol anon I’m not resistant to advice at all, I always listen to what people here have to say. And you’re talking about an opacity pressure brush? This is in ballpoint lol.

>>7951757
Can someone please fill me in on who the fuck Brian is

>>7951818
You’re right about the illusion of volume, I should work on that. However, they show rhythm and flow, something that should also be kept in mind while drawing drapery.

>>7951902
>studies
generous
>dat perspective
bruh

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>>7951940
I’m
Not looking to be perfect anon. Here’s a non study though

>>7951909
you're Brian

>>7951949
Oh my god, are you the spamming skull retard from a few months ago?

The skulls were actually decent. No idea why you do this nonsense now.

>>7951966
pyw

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>>7951960
I am indeed. I will never die. You can never get rid of me

>>7951966
Thanks lol

>>7951969
Buy a premium, to see the nicknames, stupid nufag.

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Based Ram skulls anon and Water drapery anon making the no draw faggot seethe with just their works alone, now that's what I call true talent.

>>7952016
lol it’s a saber tooth actually. Seeing people guess the skulls is always funny, some girls at my uni thought they were dinosaurs

>>7951489
>>7951519
thanks anons, drawing with my elbow does seem to help (im drawing with my sketchpad flat on my desk)
my control is super weak like this so I guess I will just need to work on that until it becomes second nature

should my shoulder come into making lines if they are really long?

>>7952034
You should be using your shoulder more than anything else when you draw. Even with short lines, maybe use your shoulder to ghost the lines before placing them. Draw from the wrist only when detailing or making very short lines

>>7951823
>retro gaming handheld
Why would anyone care what some manchild playing Pokemanz considers good?

>>7952105
pokemon isn't retro, retarded zoomer

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I've watched hundreds of his videos, and i still don't get what this old fuck wants from me.
I have a suspicion he may be senile or something.

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>>7952572
>I've watched hundreds of his videos, and i still don't get what this old fuck wants from me.
>I have a suspicion he may be senile or something.

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>>7952588
He would not mind the subject mater, but he would hate the execution.

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First time painting. Idk what tf im doin.

>>7952686
>First time painting
Looks like Brian, pre/beg theory confirmed.
Anyway, aren't you the Beksinky guy?

>>7952105
then you can listen to brian who is addicted to LoL

>>7953044
for the record i was playing half life, blood and metal slug before it broke

>>7953046
ah, the "would be a school shooter but is too self conscious to go through with it" catalog

>>7953063
no u

>>7953065
nice ancient meme, did you learn that from your gameboy boomer shooter?

>>7953327
Fucking forgot comment.
Something I'm just fucking around with because I wanted a break on other pieces. Trying out some looser stuff and its still early but its fun.

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>>7953327
Nice, but you need more control over your values.

>>7953327
Love the hair and eyeballs, looks pretty cool.

>>7953332
Retarded DK

>>7953332
Thanks anon, are you thinking broader separation as the figure is a similar value to the background? Or more like how the eyeballs / sockets don't have much variance on the individual parts?
I would agree that those are both areas I can see as lacking, and in general its something I'm continuing to try and work on, but if I missed what you were noticing and you don't mind specifying that'd be great.

>>7953349
Thank you anon

>>7953482
Most important thing is the set a value focus point in your composition, yours is everywhere. Random white brushstrokes with high contrasty hard edges. If you paint a portrait, and you dont want your focus point on the eyes, you have to work hard to make it work.
If you want the textures to be more vibrant use hue and chroma, not value. Your highest value contrast should be at your focal points and the value grouping should be compressed. If textures have hue and value contrast at the same time it looks vulgar, most of the time.

In a practical sense you need to group your mixes according to value. You have a puddle of color that is your base and you want to add another color to it, you must be aware of the value change. You can turn your phone black and white and look through the view finder at your palette, to check the value of your new mixes.
That's an interesting video on this topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFYh49papfA

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>>7953518
I agree with the contrast but you don't always need a focal point since there are no real rules in art, just guidelines. Not having a focal point lets viewers look around the image like a Where's Waldo picture instead of just focusing in one spot and ignoring the rest of the details.

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>>7953541
ummm sorry but that's not how it works chud, please for the love of g-d read an art theory book

>>7953563
>read
No way fag, I'd rather draw so I don't end up like Squidward where they end up having all this vast knowledge of art yet still can't draw for shit.

>>7953541
You can work with low contrasts and don't have very obvious contrasts. Like very moody landscapes for example.
But if you have a face in your painting you have automatically a focal point, thats how human psyche shaped by millions of years of evolution works, its hard-wired.
And you would have to paint basically tonalism, with very stark compressed values over the whole picture. But for one, tonalist paintings have still a focal point most of the time. And second you produced strong focal points with your high contrast white brushstrokes and geometrical figures. Its already there, but it placed strangely. And those focal points fight the face.
There are great paintings, with dim faces and focal points that are in some strange places. But you have to do it deliberately and It's hard to pull off.
If your painting is exactly how you planned it, and every decision was done deliberately, it does not look like that. But if that aspect was planned as well, if it was a high concept meta commentary on the shortcomings of Academic Art concepts, well that's too postmodern for me in this case.

>>7953567
>and don't have very obvious focal points

>>7953518
>>7953567
Awesome thanks anon, some good points here.
>>7953541
Isn't me for what its worth

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>>7953567
>But if you have a face in your painting you have automatically a focal point, thats how human psyche shaped by millions of years of evolution works, its hard-wired.
Not when you got these titties.

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>>7953570
Your welcome. Whats the main piece you are working on?
>>7953571
Yeah, as i said, the focal points can land in some strange places from time to time.

can you fix bad watercolor sizing by stretching the paper? Mine has gone bad after months and splotching some dots during first wash

>>7953596
>can you fix bad watercolor sizing by stretching the paper?
You have to soak the paper in water before stretching, which would degrade the sizing even further.
But try it out, if its already bad, what's to lose?

>>7953596
How do you suppose that would work? You could try soaking it in gelatin solution, I guess

>>7953601
yeah nevermind i think ill just buy a new paper then. I find that i can still work with this paper but only on light wash and not a heavy one
>>7953604
apparently there's a bottle of daniel smith water color sizing that could 'restore' watercolor paper sizing but that thing is more expensive than buying two sheets of brand new 56x76 watercolor paper in my area lol

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>>7953616
QUIT BEING A PUSSY AND USE THE FUCKIN PAPER!

>>7953616
Anon, the sizing is gelatin, it's like 50 cents at the supermarket

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>>7953619
Look at all these waste... all because I havent use them in like 6 months
>>7953620
You mean food gelatin? I could use a damn food gelatin to restore the sizing on my paper??

>>7953622
The sizing is literally just gelatin, that's why it degraded in the first place.

>>7953622
>Portfolio of a No Draw.jpeg

>>7953627
Ouch.

>>7953625
okay i think i will try and experimenting with that
>>7953627
Lel but I literally posted my painting in this thread a few days ago doe

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kot

>>7953877
The cat's drawn great, my only nitpick is I'd recommend adding more gray tones throughout the piece to give it more dimension since having solid black against solid white makes it kinda look like a stencil.

>>7954062
oh yeah, i was gonna do more, but the heat got the better of me. the fur and the background are basically just thrown inn in order to be done with it. transitions between the stripes should be a lot smoother and detailed. next week is cooler. and thanks anon.

>>7954073
>i was gonna do more, but the heat got the better of me

>>7954073
No problem, being able to do solid black with pencil like that will help you in the long run though. Most pencils artists including me have the opposite problem where they don't make the darks dark enough so the shit ends up looking flat.

>>7948460
post just one single line you drew.

>>7954411
see
>>7952593
>>7952588

warm good
cool bad
>uhm eckschooahllee-
wrong

>>7951031
seconding this request

>>7955655
you're not on /r/, retard

>>7955688
well, i just want to see the contents of the book

>>7955696
then fuck off and buy it, this is a thread about painting, you desperate samefag

So I've been moving around a lot and bringing a journal with me to do some sketching. Because I carry my stuff with me I wanna know how to utilize my wallet pockets in my journal cover instead of having my actual stuff I keep in my wallet there. Feels like I should have some sorta stencil idk that exists in there or something. What do you all think I can put?

>>7955935
Print yourself out a refrence or a list of ideas

>>7955935
condoms for all the pussy you get with your epic art skills

>>7951902
i really like this

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>>7955937
I actually write on each page a single word to base a drawing on! The journal I got for general ideas happens to be inside my wallet with a smol pencil.

I'm considering having someone make me general shapes compact into multiple card sized templates rn. I think it's a very niche item so I don't think the dimensions for an item like that exists other than that one metal card.

>>7955952
My lady is the one I only need. Thanks for the encouragement tho ;)

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>>7956090
you mean like picrel or a french ruler? you can just buy those, we used them in elementary school when I was a kid

>>7956101
The thing with those is that I want to be able to fit em inside a pocket the size of a credit card without it being inside my actual wallet. I can cut it yeah but simultaneously can't help but feel like it'll be more brittle once I do it. I'm slightly stumped

>>7956021
Thanks anon I’m glad you like it. Perspective is so much fun

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>>7944797

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Bump, where tf did all the tradfags go?

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I've been experimenting with implementing realism portrait to animu styled character in watercolor by drawing Sandrone with the first ever reference that I saw on my pinterest home page, all without a sketch and line art (which was a stupid idea to begin with) and as you can see: its better to stick to the usual yukoring and ochatoaru style when it comes to subject like this and not realism, unless you intend to draw them with realistic face composition, maybe

>>7957037
I think it looks fine, I think the thing that looks off to me is the eye to her left, it's almost the same size as the eye on her right. You can search up anime girl looking over shoulder on Google images and see the eye is a bit smaller since perspectively it's the furthest thing away from all the other features along with maybe having the cheekbone sticking into the eye. Since both eyes are almost the same size, it looks like she's looking at you straight ahead from the front instead of looking over her shoulder. Instead of looking for realism references and trying to draw it animu style, look for animu references instead then tack on the realism effects to that one afterwards like maybe adding realistic clothing folds or the same way you did the skin shading and hair.

>>7957133
thanks for the input, 'ppreciate it. The original artwork is wayyy more browner than that what it looks like in that post. I use a single warm sepia paint to color the entire thing and it seems like my camera is unable to capture the accurate color of that. I'm currently working on another portrait right now though, with the same subject, but different pose maybe, I'll try to use a proper line art this time.
>Instead of looking for realism references and trying to draw it animu style, look for animu references instead then tack on the realism effects to that one afterwards like maybe adding realistic clothing folds or the same way you did the skin shading and hair.
Yep, this is what I meant by sticking to yuko ring and ocha toaru artstyle. When it comes to rendering their stylized animu portrait they tend to use a minimum color palette on the subject face and focus more on something like drapery, hair, accessories, eyes, and other object that could enrich the entire composition. I'll use that method next time, though I figure that it'll be less darker in shade than this sandrone picture, but we'll see

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oil on canvas
underpainting done.
need to do another pass to refine the shapes and clean up the values.
how do you guys take proper photos ?
the glare from sunlight is very annoying

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Acrylics on canvas, from photo reference

>>7957600
Cool motive ! I think you also did the t rex one maybe? the brushstrokes and palette are quite similar, in this case the values are have mire definition, nice job

>>7957421
looks great

>>7957019
For some reason trad has the craziest stupidest arguments in their generals. So I don't post

>>7957801
bruh
the dude on the right is like 18 heads tall

>>7957421
you gotta fix the derpy skull, man

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RIP John Blache.
>>>/tg/98150372

>>7957980
this isn't the slop thread, tranny

So it seems student level basic acrylics are fine for every other colour but the titanium white absolutely sucks and is useless brother. straight from the tube as thick as possible and it does not cover at all. Need to spend more money hell yeah brother. I hear the siren call of digital but must not listen

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>>7958007
Liquitex basics? The canvas is already white so try to utilize that, you can lay the white on top and fake it. Think more literally about your materials and what the image is, and work with what you have not against it

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>>7958013
Yeah but I like to holocaust all the whites before I do anything. I think I'll pick up a a tube of pro acrylic just for superior white

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Lead-tin yellow is such an interesting color

>>7944797
That’s kind of tacky

>>7958118
Why?

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>>7957993
Then I'm on the right thread, anon.
You'll never paint as well as he did.

>>7958127
Little girl with firearms looks like it appeals to The kind of people who fear urban areas

>>7958130
*jewishly

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>>7953584
It's two paired paintings from warframe. Hilariously despite spending 10-20x more time on these I like the other sloppy one I posted better lol.
1/2

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>>7958151
2/2
I'm struggling a lot with lighting for photos still. These came out dark, so I'll probably have to bump up the lighting in post a bit for socials so they look more like how they are in real life.

>>7958025
This is what I do for pigments that don't cover well. Just get a small tube of the premium stuff for those instances where you really need it to perform.

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>>7957857
Thanks
>>7957900
Indeed. It got the least attention so far - trying to get through the more tedious stuff before doing the exciting parts.
On monday i will start working on the background, After that another pass on the tree - refine the shapes and clean up the values.
When that is done i'll work on details and textures focused on the center of the composition.
Last stage will be adding the brightest highlights and glazing in some colour variations.
I'm pondering what to do with the foreground root in the bottom left value wise - in theory it should have the lowest value but im worried it might be too distracting from the focal point where i was planning to put the lowest values.

>>7958197
2bh that's the kind of thing that should be done before the underpainting, you're highly unlikely to fix it with that attitude

>>7957896
Lol

>>7957861
I’ve noticed that as well. Way more arguing than actual posts, it’s very annoying

>>7958197
So cool, looks like some dark souls shit

>>7958138
>The kind of people who fear urban areas
wypipo?

>>7958267
Yokels

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second attempt at painting with acrylics. Small, postcard size. it's shiet lol. I don't own any good cameras

>guns bad

>>7958363
needs a white monster

>>7958363
wipe the leans, you greasy retard

>>7958197
Damn from the thumbnail the tree looks like a face. Heckin cool, anon

>>7958363
so sick anon, wish i had skills like this
I dont really want to draw line stuff I just wanna paint things, you think I could just skip all that stuff or is it important?

>>7958529
draw with charcoal or something so you can have range in values and not just lines. don't skip it brother

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I bought an ink pen with a tip long enough to draw with an overhand grip, a pigma graphic 1

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>>7957037
part 2
I need to learn how to paint eye in this medium and also to use a good reference when it comes to light and shadow. Also to get a watercolor block and not sheet

>>7959586
Kino.
That looks professionally done.

>>7959621
thanks anon, this was a fun and challenging subject to draw

>>7959586
Looks pretty, maybe add some butterflies and flowers to make it look like that yuko ring style you wanted to go for

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>>7960153
Thanks. I also thought about adding some flowers or decorations at first but i'm a little bit skeptical with this color combination (warm sepia, raw sienna, burnt sienna) and whether its going to work or not, I also have a doubt over working on this piece so I skipped the entire decoration process and just paint her naked and playing with the light instead kek

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>>7959586
I love this, been experimenting with animurealism on different grades as well recently, trying to find sweetspot