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Can you get get good fast in a relatively short amount of time if you just "bruteforce" learning art and stutying what you actually want to draw instead of learning it organically and have patience like other begs and ints if you don't enjoy the process? And by "bruteforce" I mean drawing 8 hours daily with a 60/40 fundamentals to personal art ratio until you're good enough to focus more on the latter
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Why dont you try it and let us know
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>>7946538
The ones that can do it don't ask such retarded questions and just draw.
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>>7946538
Its an individual goal, if youre clever enough to figure it out quickly, then by all means do that. no rules only fools
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>>7946538
bruteforcing is the opposite of fast, retard, it's what you do when you don't have a smarter approach
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>>7946538
how fast you learn is a matter of intelligence and working memory (and practice of course)
if you're a fucking retard, you'll learn slow no matter the method
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>>7946538
Sure, but the people who always ask this can't even push two hours without refreshing their favorite board or checking their phone.
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>>7946538
Dedicate all your free time to art, dump vidya and shows and ESPECIALLY social media. You'll improve fast.
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>>7946538
>Can you get get good fast in a relatively short amount of time
No, lazy zoomer. Tough luck.
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>>7946538
I've been making pretty good progress ever since I started this year. I think if you just draw what you like and actively seek advice from people better than you then you'll probably make good pace.
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>>7946538
Post your attempts at bruteforcing Hiroaki Samura's art style
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>>7946661
>>7946538
You can improve rather quickly but you need to reinforce what you're copying with fundamental training and drawing from life. If you don't, you'll stagnate sooner than you'd think.

Stephen Silver only went to art school for less than a year. He learned art by just drawing from life, doing his fundies, and copying what he liked for several hours every day.

Jack Kirby never went to art school and he started off by tracing and copying comics several hours a day, and then did life studies and fundie training.

Kim Jung Gi nearly copied every single damn thing he got his hands on and did copies from multiple angles again and again. And then he went to art school and the military where he did the process again.

If you want proof of how merely just copying can seriously fuck you over, look no further than 90s comic book artists like Rob Liefeld or 2000s/2010s Deviantart artists like Vivziepop.
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>>7946538
Yes but it'll still take like 2 years to reach a goog level
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>>7946538
Yes if you draw ten thousand anime girls you will tangentially master cylinders, spheres and cones and be able to draw anything else after a couple reads of Betty Edwards.
The thing that matters the most is doing the drills so that your eyes, brain and hands communicate efficiently and you get the lines that you want to put into the paper. You can consume all the theory and not be able to draw shit, but if you do the exercise you will get good eventually even if you don't academically know what you're doing.
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>>7946538
What you just described is just the normal, slow way of learning.
But do that and you'll be ahead of 99% of the no-draws here. Just don't expect it to be "fast".
And you damn better learn to enjoy the process because that's never going away, even once you're "good". You'll always be dissatisfied with your work, you'll always be trying to get better, and there will always be a process.
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>>7946970
What's the fast way
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nobody tell him
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>>7946989
Pay a tutor and draw what they tell you eight hours a day every day.
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That's what Algenpfleger did. He drew for hours every day. He eventually reached a point that was "good enough" to him. Got the fame, the skill, landed the job. Once that point was reached he kinda gave up because there was nothing left to strive for.

Practice to improve your passion projects. Don't be this hard on yourself.
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>>7947116
Where would you go to find one? What site?
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>>7946538
>posts weeb garbage from industry where everyone just traces 3d models and photobashes and send off to assistants to do blender/clip studio assets and AIslop

sure, just bruteforce retard. you want to draw garbage and only care about garbage, so do like they do and just fucking trace.
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>>7947213
sour grapes
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>>7947127
And he only made it because he was slaving under Jana Schirmer.
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I am for strategic planning when it comes to complex compositions. Drawing many rough approximations of scene characters and props, then drawing them together roughly after refining the rough concepts into acceptable fodder for the final draft. Then methodically committing it all to your best Bristol board.

Never get hung up on how good or bad any individual drawing done now. They are steps in a process and tools to be used and displayed with such a label to discourage the crabs.
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I really don't get people who try to go through art like it's a race, especially those who are goal-oriented. I'm a beginner myself, I've been in and out of this hobby, mostly because of my young mind and perfectionist tendencies, but now I'm 21 and I'm convinced to go through it at my own pace, sometimes skipping a day, sometimes doing a whole week of studies and drawing. It doesn't matter to me if I'll reach my goal by the time I'm 35, what's important is that I'll reach it eventually. If you're so scared about losing your path, enjoyment, or that you'll be too old to draw what you want right now, maybe this isn't made for you. Look at all the mangaka, comic book artists, most of the well established ones are well into their 30s, and they're still drawing and loving every moment of it.
>b-b-but they started when they were young!
Well no shit, everyone here wished the same. Here's what the wise Chinese people have to say about this shit: "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now."
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>>7952017
regret from wasting time on video games and anime. I think most people making these threads are mid 20s failed normalfags or people who know we're in the end stages of capitalism so there's no time left.
>just draw for 5 years before becoming good
in 5 years they'll be in their mid 30s, even further behind in life. People want a fast track to catch up.
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>>7946538
>Can you get get good fast in a relatively short amount of time
Define short and good, Excaliblader got better than most /BEG/ here in the pandemic year.
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>>7952270
>pandemic year
This is his most popular art piece in 2020, the year he started learning to draw.
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>>7947213
Sent that weebshit flying
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>>7947213
alright what do YOU draw? I'm not going to make fun of you, I'm just curious what you think worthwhile art is.
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>>7946538
Maybe possible, but you need a lot of talent

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