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I HATE this stupid website
I HATE that everyone is on it but I can't get on it!
I HATE that codes are hard to get, oooh we want to keep out the scammers my ass, it's either 1% chance you get a code in a giveaway or you have to do some stupid shit to get a code, people literally make you do free art for them just to give out these damn codes
I"M A BROKE ARTIST! I make no money, Ko-fi is dead, everyone flocked to Vgen but I can't get in.
I could be taking comissions right now. I could be making money, but instead I've been trying to get a fucking code for months just for the POSSIBILITY TO MAKE MONEY!
I HATE VGEN!!!!
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>>7950611
Anon what's your style, I'll commission you.
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is this a shill thread? there's no upsides to vgen over ko-fi
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>>7950611
Is this the new Deviantart?
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>>7950611
>invite only
>that hand

Fuck the secret club of now draws who hate Ai.
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>>7950611
if you had enough pull to begin with you would've been able to get by on ko-fi

why don't you pyw and maybe some kind anon would be willing to give you a code
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share art and i could give you a code anon.

i also need work really badly... just started using vgen after a long while so not sure if it really does that much for you to get comms but it's good to try and set it up
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>>7950611
Finally someone who hates VGen as much as I do, how can you promote yourself as commissions made easy when you need to hunt for a code only to get drowned by other posters. This and Art Fight are both /beg/ farms.
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>>7950611
>>7950683
>>7950715
You know what they say
If you complain about the gate, it's doing a good job of keeping you out
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>>7950712
I did this 4 days ago.
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>>7950611
I never use vgen but i dont like the gist of it. Why does this site exist? What happened with the ole artist-to-client commision? Why is suddenly people want to become part of this thing? I'm not saying that its fishy, people do get money and art from it, I just dont like the idea of commercialization en masse in a place like this, reminds me of that skillshare and similar site
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One youtuber wanted to give me a code once i asked what that site was but i refused
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>>7950712
I also need some work
Really appreciate if anyone share extra code
Here's my temp mail and my work
[email protected]
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>>7950817
Paypal and payments processors banned porn, so you need a middleman.
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>>7950611
Fuck those onions cucks meat RULES
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>searched my favorite artist
>not in there
Safe.
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>>7950808
Lmao
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>"I don't see how you can hate from outside the club, you can't even get in....HAHAHAHAHAHA"
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>>7950808
aww :)
I don't have a code either..
Here's my art, in case anyone wants to give me a code

This time, I drew the popular character "Kanon Shibuya."
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>>7950611
>>7950683
Yeah what's the vibe of this place? I glanced at the front page and it looks to be mostly tumblr fake-anime and furry stuff? Is that accurate or is there more?
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>>7950817
vgen is probably offering a way to get your foot in the door without having to be interesting or good at art. If someone could get commissions themselves they'd have no reason to go on vgen.
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>>7951218
easy way to do overpriced comms to rake in that wannabe vtuber money, it's oversaturated af but there's always someone looking for it
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>>7951290
the processing fees are a bitch too, I lost almost 40 bucks from a 300+ dollar comm
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>>7951290
>vgen is probably offering a way to get your foot in the door without having to be interesting or good at art. that's literally it. The barrier of entry is low enough that even week 2 /beg/s can easily get commissions because how much it's pushed. The fees are aids and you can't make nsfw art while using it, sine vgen staff actually goes out of their way to check, but at least you can get "easy" commissions I guess...
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>>7951337
Real talk. No one would give a shit about making "NSFW art" if it didn't pay. At the end of the day you do commissions for the money. You don't care about the actual subject matter of the commission, you're just doing it for the money.
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Are these 2-week /beg/s recruiting and offering codes by chance? Asking for a friend... >>7951196
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>>7951344
Man, if only porn artists would shut the fuck up and draw the porn instead of constantly trying to get validated for selling their souls to the cum gods.
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>>7950611
just git gud lol
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>>7951196
Aren't the invite codes supposed to gatekeep this permabegslop from overrunning the site to begin with? Come back in a year.
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>>7951368
I'm so good.
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>>7951368
What's wrong with it? I think the girl is cute.
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>>7951196
I would pay $100 for this. $200 if you color it.
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Are commissions still a thing? I imagine people who specifically want nsfw art for a quick nut with their OCs are going to just use AI since they don't care about quality.
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what is even the point of vgen? and don't say discoverability because it's terrible at that. and it's still full of scammers despite gatekeeping with codes. i'm always seeing "warning new vgen scam!!" tweets
i have a ko-fi account and my regular commissioners just send money through that
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>>7951459
> i'm always seeing "warning new vgen scam!!" tweets
That's just standard online artist witch hunt drama.
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>>7950752
Based gatekeeper
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>>7951459
Vgen allows actual R-18 nsfw art comms via Paypal. Ko-fi draws the line at Ecchi.
Other than that I think they are basically the same.
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Can't you guys just use Pixiv as any other respectable human being?
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>i'll give you a code
>doesn't give code
y u lie to me
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>>7951516
I no your pain :(
If they give you a code, can you give ma. code? Thanks >>7951196
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>>7951368
>Aren't the invite codes supposed to gatekeep this permabegslop from overrunning the site to begin with?
Um no?
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Real talk: illustrators are incentivized to give codes to other illustrators, because all you're doing is increasing the pool of sellers, thereby making your wares less valuable.
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>>7951541
*de-incentivized
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Yeah same, this is my work and I couldn’t get the code either so
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>>7950611
Wow, the mascot is really cute, isn't she? It looks like a fun and friendly place, but when I go to join, it says I need a code. Another social hierarchy? I don't need any of that. I will just draw girls in peace like I've been doing.
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i set up a vgen and uploaded what i think are my best works and have received 0 requests, it honestly feels demotalizng but whatever. so yeah op dont feel that bad, you could get a code, put hours into your shop, and have nothing to show for it
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>>7951730
Do you have extra code?
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>>7950611
What is this paypal ban in porn? How the fuck does it works?
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more infuriating is artists with code who don't do shit
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>>7951730
You look at the front page feed it's all the same type of stereotypical pastel woman styles with lots of fetish furry shit mixed in

Works like yours (not gayfurrywoman shit) stand no chance
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>>7951730
I mean this is a cool style but idk what kind of request id give you that works with it.
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You still have to bring your own clients. Vgen keeps you anonymous which is imo the reason to use it over a direct invoice.
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>>7950611
they need a vgen with no women. then anons like >>7951730 would have a better time.
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>>7951368
I think it's more so a vouch for the person's character, and ensure that AI sloppers don't get on. Vouch for a bad person, get banned along with them - or at least that's how such systems SHOULD work anyway.
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>>7950752
Literally it's full of shitty fags.
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>>7951368
No. It's literally nothing but begs. It's to keep everyone else besides begs out. AI art I get. But it's all troony toon tublrites who don't even draw nsfw.
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>>7951730
It's nothing but other artists. Thread no customer base because they're closed off. They could sell to each ogre but if you also draw why not just make it yourself?
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>>7952323
*There's.
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>>7951887
>anonymous

System already knows who you are and what you do. They don't give a fuck if you draw inflation shota con anon.
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>>7952326
If they don't care about me then why did they shadowban me from getting a regular job? O.o
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>>7952322
>all troony toon tublrites
You insult the users and you wonder why they won't give you a code. Brilliant.
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>>7952326
If you don't use a middleman service like vgen, everyone who commissions you gets your name and address.
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>>7950611
looked up the ways to get a code and if you're an asocial freak the best you can do is either e-beg on social media or participate in the monthly challenge, but if >>7951589 can't get it then it's joever
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>commissions all under $100
>just dropped $200 in a single piece from a Twitter artist
I feel… not great.
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why not just ask crypto payments
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Half the artists on here trace ai btw, so /beg/s in here don't get discouraged.


pic rel is one of them after taking a 5 minute browse through offerings. There is no QA.
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South Park predicted this.
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>>7952476
I want to commission someone just because I feel bad for them.
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>>7952551
>they're better than you therefore they trace AI
holy cope, that's why they were able to get a code and you weren't
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>>7952551
I never understood drawing/painting like this. following a reference 1:1 and drawing a girl in a boring void. If I draw Makima I'm giving her a hairy pussy in an erotic position, or have her tits squished against her arms or SOMETHING. That is interesting about these accurately rendered white void drawings? NOTHING. And if the girl in the middle is the artist then its double soulless. what is she saying with these bikini drawings besides "I heard you guys like boobies so heres a character with boobies!"
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>>7952100
Pretty funny how pro affrimave action moids are when it benefits them kek
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>>7952606
Back to your containment thread >>7949772
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>>7952611
Very funny. There are lots of girls here, and not just in that thread.
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>>7952592
I never tried lmao. I was curious about the site just now then browsed to see what's up. I have 0 issue getting commissions on my own.

Just because you are a beginner that can't see tells yet, doesn't mean I am. I'm by no means a pro but I guarantee I can draw well enough to get in.

>>7952602
It's because anything more complex is beyond their own skillset and doing more requires knowing something about staging or how forms interact with others. or thought.
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>>7951589
>pucca
based
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>>7952625
Is that image AI?
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>>7952625
>>7952551
>>7952592

Surely you too can expect this improvement, anon
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>>7952625
>>7952602
Well, here's the thing. Your drawing is technically doing the same thing: "HERES SEX I HEARD YOU LIKE SEX." I get it, it's more interesting than a character just standing there. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and so is interest. I think you're being unfair.
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>>7952633
2022 - 2026 is plenty of time to improve.
A lot can change in a year too, especially when you're a beginner and you're improving more rapidly than you will later in your career where the gains are slower.

Also why is your canvas so large lol
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>>7952634
kinda my point, it IS better even if you think just marginally. The only similarity is in them not having backgrounds and being sexual in nature.
You are entitled to your level of interest however


>>7952635
I realized after the fact that I didn't crop the damn thing.
I have only ever opened MS paint 3 times in the past 5 years and didn't realize the canvas expands when you copy paste.
Certainly, one can improve immensely in 4 years, but this is not one of those cases
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>>7952640
Well, there are background objects, I will give it that. It's just not colored yet.
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>>7952625
Can you get a code so then you can help me get a code? >>7951196
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>>7952634
the difference is when I draw an anime girl with a hairy pussy, I'm rock hard the whole time and sharing a personal obsession of mine with the world.
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If those people can get in, why can't I? I'm not even trying to get rich. I just want to make pocket change so I can afford groceries. And I will improve along the way without AI...
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>>7952642
Sorry, I've got no interest in jumping though hoops for something I'm probably never going to use.
Right now, I can just disappear for months, pop up on any of my twitter art alts, say I'm opening commissions for sketches then people shove comms at me that same day. Gl though.

>>7952644
>Obsession is when you interact with things for more than 10 minutes.
>Quality can only be determined by actual subject matter

Thank you, anon. You are very smart and cool.
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>>7952651
>Gl though.
ty
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>>7952625
That doesn't make much sense since the purpose of the site is literally to prevent AI usage. Maybe the reason you're not in is because you use AI.
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How do they even guarantee that illustrators aren't using AI? That sounds like it would be a pain to prove for every single person who enters a code. So you have to just trust that the person who gave them the code is both not in on the AI scam and also smart enough to be able to tell that the person they gave the code to is not using AI. Seems like a flimsy system.

Furthermore, someone who is selling commissions has a vested interest in not giving codes to anyone, because increasing the amount of sellers on a closed platform increases the seller's competition. So the only people they might give a code to are people who are worse than them, and so you're going to have a lot of low-skill illustrators on the platform who might start to feel like they have to use AI after all to stay competitive.

You know what, I don't think the creators of this site thought this through at all. It's just "AI bad" without a deeper understanding of the problem.
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the challenge sounds fun, I'll try next month's and see how it goes
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>>7952676
You are supposed to commission artists you already know are trustworthy. If you buy from random users, you kinda deserve to get scammed imo. Still you can get your money back.
There are also other ways to get invite codes.
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>>7952476
$200 wasn't even considered that much a while back for a commission. most social media artists these days are from places like SEA and they still work in USD, so prices are driven down egregiously. there's nothing you can really do about it other than be very, very popular so you can ask for higher prices.
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>>7952703
>$200 wasn't even considered that much a while back for a commission.
AI really stole everyone's lunch money, huh?
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>>7950611
>Retarded tranny whining about a retarded western tranny site
Kill yourself.
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>>7952676
>increasing the amount of sellers on a closed platform increases the seller's competition

You're only competing with people who draw the same things you do, if your thing is cute girls in frilly dresses they can invite a thousand bara furry artists and you won't see a difference.

Actually, considering the focus on Vtuber stuff you could exploit it for more money, if your friends all draw different stuff a Vtuber might need you can shill one another, if one hires you for a splash screen you can tell her about your friend who does Twitch emotes and stuff like that.
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>>7952726
True. But if my thing is cute girls, then I'm probably not going to know any furry bara illustrators to begin with
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Commissioners are probably very picky and only work with their favorite artists whom they have known for years. I don’t think many of them would open VGen to search for a random artist. Nobody can be that desperate for a drawing.
Supporting an artist you like is a big part of the whole art commission culture thing. The drawing is important but really not that much.
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>>7950611
it's literally so easy to get in, put a little bit of effort into any monthly challenge and you can easily win and get a code, everytime i participate i win if you don't get votes it means you're stuff doesn't appeal to the average joe so just make something light and fun
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>>7952762
That's for regular people who want their sonas dicked or their D&D campaign illustrated, when you're a mid-tier Vtuber you often find yourself needing new art on a deadline. Take all the seasonal stuff, I'm sure every July is a bloodbath as everyone is trying to get new models, new backgrounds, new emotes and all for Halloween, there's the really big sponsored streams where you get paid so much to shill the latest game you're expected to get new art, etc. When you're Ironmouse you just know high profile drawfags and get it done but GloopieBoopie(VWhocares) and her 300 subs just has to hire whoever the fuck because their regular artist just got booked for the next eight months.

And then there's all the auxiliary stuff, I don't think you end up with a dedicated guy for your overlays, you don't call them often enough to get that sort of relationship.
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>>7952703
this is the real issue. people in third world countries are entering our markets and undercutting us. There isn't really a solution for this, since the internet is wide open with no borders.
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>>7952890
Stay mad cuck, I can live like a king while undercutting you and taking a fat shit on your dreams at the same time. It can't get any better than this. Tbh you should start blaming your own cheapass people for being disloyal to their own artists
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>>7952965
not him but i don't blame you at all. if i lived in a third world country i'd be doing the same.
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>>7952890
True. Happens in way more than just drawing commissions.
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>>7950611
I got in without a code, they just saw my following number on twitter and let me in, this was before the site officially launched so I guess they needed some people to appear legit
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>>7953377
That's awesome. I'm happy for you. Can you help me get a code?
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>Stripe bans me from selling even sfw commissions because I draw nsfw on my own time
>vgen gets to continue to exist as an official Powered By Stripe partner with nsfw everywhere
The blatant double standard favoritism is why I stopped using it
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A friend gave me a code which I used to register myself an account. I then never touched that website again. hehe
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>>7952965
So much hostility and hatred for your fellow man in a single post. I hope this anon's >>7952982 post made you feel something you haven't felt in your heart.
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>>7950611

i wish vgen had more professional artists on it. i was looking for 3DCG fags to make my spaceship in blender, but there's literally zero 3D artists on vgen outside of vtubers.

fiverr, meanwhile, has several 3DCG artists specializing in spaceships. vgen is 90% anime girls and 10% furries.
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>>7952965
>Tbh you should start blaming your own cheapass people for being disloyal to their own artists
I actually agree with this. People will go on about keeping jobs and manufacturing in their country... and then proceed to buy the cheapest chinese shit they can get. They want the jobs, but not to pay the prices that keeping jobs in the country would entitle. Why should companies keep manufacturing domestic, when the locals will always buy the cheaper option? Why should companies keep manufacturing domestic, when the locals will never actually hold the company accountable by boycotting them?

Likewise with art, we have slackjaws claiming they love art and want to support artists, but they would never pay the prices that someone living in their country would or should demand, and expect art to be cheap - which is why they go with thirdies.

Honestly, globalism has fucked everything.
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>live in 3rd world
>have access to 1st world market
>ask 3rd world rates because you are so heckin business smart
>start competing with other 3rdies who also are epic business geniuses
>destroy an entire market because you are so epic genius and thought you were the only one digging for gold
Man, if you aren't racist, seeing browns behaving the way they do will make you
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>>7957467
it's called competition
I know sheltered zoomers are deathly afraid of it, but it's time to grow up
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>fucking your fellow over to ultimately destroy an entire ecosystem is called "competition"
the only thing you're competing against is intelligence and your own survival

yeah yeah hwite peepo bad
but you're unironically lynching yourself lmao

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