>>7952414
I love Jazza, best art entertainment since art attack.

>>7952414
Jazza's lack of style is very common in art Youtubers who focus on teaching other people art rather than spend enough time on developing their own art. It's a phenomenon you can find with public school art teachers as well. If you're an artist who only focuses on teaching the fundamentals to other people, the fundamentals are all that's displayed in your own art rather than any individuality or reflection of the art that you love.

There's also the fact that one of his biggest influences is Christopher Hart.

It's kind of a shame because Jazza's oldest available art looked pretty good.

Jazza, mark kriley and other permabeg yourubers were the only thing we had back in the day.
Imagine how pathetic zoomers have to be to be born with every single art resource available and still fail miserably at art. Zoomers are sub-human, go draw your boxes!

>>7952414
Yeah, his entertainment value comes more from being like a more mature version of the 'art attack' show; entertainment from viewing people create things with their craft, and teaching how to create with said craft, but not so much the quality of the final product.
His work is amateurish at best most of the time.

His biggest sin, for me, is his overly cheery 'good boy UwU' persona. I just don't gel with that.

>>7952425
Nah, that's just every other Mormon guy. If they're not bitter and grouchy like Shadiversity, they're overly cheery. But that's typical for people raised in cult environments.

>>7952414
I mean he's pretty aware he isn't the best artist, he's an "art influencer". His job is to entertain and sometimes he throws in advice and tips that are basic enough to where it can't lead people astray. It's like going to a play and getting mad that the actors aren't the characters lmao.

>>7952414
idk, mogs me

>>7952414
He's better than you thoughbeit, unless you pyw showing otherwise

Have some mercy on him, he got crabbed at the very beginning of his art journey due to his brother Shad, giving him some of the worst art learning resources possible

>>7952420
Fuck off Shad at least he's not delegated to being a proompter like (You)

>>7952507
Shad hates Jazza now because Jazza asked him not to be a fucking sperg at family gatherings

>>7952423
>mark kriley
He's actually pretty decent. Go back and look at his Brody Ghost stuff and miki falls--signature work and stands out among the sea of ai sloppa. I attribute Mark Crilley's tutorials when I was a kid to the burned in wrote memory I have now when I don't try.

how do you all know so much about these people

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>>7952507
>Fuck off Shad at least he's not delegated to being a proompter like
are you sure? he used AI for the background art for his roleplay book he sells lmao.
he also use it for his character in RPG.

>>7952783
His past videos have gotten better in retrospect. Like compared to even more skillful authors his videos on the process of making comics and what you need to get a professional look is really useful cause you see him learning in real time. Throughout his run of Brody's Ghost the videos he was making publishing standards and storytelling so you can see how he applied the methods he talks about in his actual book. As good as someone like Oda or Araki might be you never see them or their contemporaries kind of catalogue how they are making their shit in real time, its usually like in retrospect and maybe you get the one interview were they happen to be working on a chapter at that time. But the Mark Crilley videos you can see him apply his own logic to his own work and break down the steps

>>7952414
Jazza is very good. The problem is that he is wasting his talent.

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>>7952795
Didn't he change his position and become more staunchly against AI?

>>7952795
His earlier books like Shadow of the Conquerer had him collaborating or paying an artist to draw the book cover which he was quite proud of. Imagine any of his readers searching up for his new books and finding out AI generated book contents lmao

>>7952950
> Shadow of the Conquerer had him collaborating or paying an artist to draw the book cover

Did they draw the Main Character talking to his Dick?

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>>7952414
He's "good enough"
Truth is that with a lot of art career success, while there's a threshold of skill in order to make it, it's far lower than anyone on this board is willing to admit
Past that bar, it becomes about marketing yourself

>>7952414
I like him

>>7952414
Hi shad

>>7952425
His wife is fine and his kids are cute, he has nothing to be upset about other than being brother to a lolcow.

>>7952959
a good chunk of success is networking, bryan o'malley's story is basically spending a few years going around meeting artists and shit, and then one of his connections hooking him up with a publishing deal because they just had an open spot to fill and remembered his name.

>>7952414
Obsessing over the skill level of random artists is peak beg behaviour

>>7952414
You'll NEVER deserve that second stat point in art, Shad

>>7952959
>>7953176
It's even more important nowadays considering the market is so extremely oversaturated that networking and marketing to different degrees are a requirement to not get lost in the noise. The facts are most artists on here are just terrible entrepreneurs.

>>7952959
Skill mattered before but the most impottant thing is just being lucky, which includes being early. I could have easily been as successful as o'malley but I was just too young at the time. Sure scott pilgrim can be called good, but if it came out today it would 100% be completely unknown and probably even lolcowed. In 2026 our society is actually so broken that "making it" doesn't exist anymore, in any field. We're all just circling the drain until US, Canada, and Japan collapse for reasons I'm not allowed to say.

>>7953227
Post your work and your marketing experience

>>7953227
>Lolcowed
Why? It's a just a comic and O'Malley isn't terminally online enough to become a lolcow to anyone but schizos

>>7953234
irrelevant, if I was born in the 80s I would have hade more of both

>>7952959
Picrel is already beyond what most of this board will ever accomplish though.
It’s less “the bar is surprisingly low” and more “even very simple art is harder than it looks”.

>>7952954
Who knows. I tapped out of his content years ago when it just turned into angry guy yells at cloud podcast

>>7952911
This

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>so much talk but no one has actually posted any of his art.
Get over yourselves. It's not bad

>>7953227
>I could have easily been as successful as o'malley but I was just too young at the time.
I know, right dude? I could have easily been as big as the Beatles, I just wasn't born yet, and I don't know how to play an instrument... Shit sucks.

>>7952959
Actually it's about character and style, don't act like Scott Pilgrim isn't a quality graphic novel, it's very well styalized and well written, vision and characterization is king, being good at drawing just makes it easier, skill is cheap, the average photorealistic portrait drawer is worthless compared to O'malley in terms of overall artistic merit.

>>7953636
its not the worst thing ever, but a lot of it has to do with lack of appeal or finesse to it, which feels more indicative of online art during late 2000s/early 2010s. His old flash cartoons looked more tolerable imo

>>7953642
bad example, the uk was so devoid of talent that those retards took over the entire country with a bunch of stinkers.

>>7952414
/beg/ needs to learn a thing or two from art kektubers: sometimes its not about your art or your skill, sometimes its about the willing to drop your izzat under the guise of 'confidence' and yap in front of camera under the guise of 'teaching people art'
You want some easy money from drawing but cant draw or get into industry and too dumb to deceive people with aislop? Become art kektuber

>anyone who doesn't work for Riotgames making the LoL splashes is a "/beg/" who "can't draw"

>>7954399
Exactly! The beatles suck and I could have easily been bigger than them, if I had been born at the time, and knew how to play an instrument, and knew how to write music, and also had friends to form a band with, and also could spare the effort to play live performances, and...
I coulda' been big!

>>7954426
>thinks riot slop is a good metric

I didn't know this person and it was surprisingly hard to find his recent artwork
https://www.redbubble.com/people/jazzastudios
most of it looks straight out of beg, but it has a lot of charm and I kinda get it

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>>7954432
I'll ask my mom to buy me this poster

>>7954432
its hard to find art from these big youtubers. actually drawing is bad for business.

>>7952414
nothing against the guy but I fucking hate looking at this dead color palette avatar

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>>7954432
I am firmly in /beg/ and even I can tell you this tangent is horrid, good lord.

>>7954510
I look like that

>>7954445
Nowadays I only watch artists who draw low effort but still nice stuff like jelarts or viyaura. Used to love watching drawingwiffwaffles playing with random shit she got in a dropbox.

I feel I actually learnt more from watching them figure stuff up irt than the curated and edited "masters" like proko.

>>7954510
>outlined the tangent in thicc black

Why would you do this?

>>7952414
These shit artists are proof that having a stable life bears having raw skill every time. I draw better than him but I'm playing on Nightmare mode while he gets away with being a /beg/ because he's on Peaceful mode

>>7953636
it's like a deviantart piece in 2008

>>7952414
>good rendering
>renderslop
>good structure but bad rendering
>perma/beg/ can't fucking draw
What do you guys want?

>>7955866
how bout good draftmanship? Good lines? good sketches?

>>7952414
how do these people not go insane online? Especially in the past ten years. Any random twitter artist can draw ten times better than them so how do they cope? How do they look at this >>7954510 and think "yeah, I NEED to sell courses and teach others how to draw like this"

>>7952414
stop hating on my nigga i wouldn't be drawing now if it weren't for him

>>7955902
The only people going insane because they aren't the best have literally nothing else going for them in life except being the best. Jazza has a studio, a wife and kids, a home, has made a massive bag, just got done raising like 10x his kickstarter for some mediocre book just because of fan loyalty. I think it's safe to say he doesn't give af about being the best, he already has it made

>>7955918
why does he get to be happy when hes not good at drawing? he needs to be taken down a peg

>>7955924
u right u right mb, beg ass faggot needs to grind 10000000 boxes before he's allowed to feel joy

>>7953636
holy permabeg kek...

>>7955902
He's more of an entertainer these days, rather than an art teacher. People have made comparisons to art attack, even in this thread, and I think that's apt. Do you really think the host from art attack was a great artist? He was probably good, sure, but probably no better than the average hobbyist - but that didn't make his show less entertaining.

Point is, Jazza may not be a great artist either, but he's good enough where he can to about certain artistic subjects with some level of authority, and good enough where people are interested in watching him work.
His videos are his actual product, and the art is just the means in which to make them.

... all this said, I saw he released a book on anatomy, and I can't help but think that he's not thaaat good - you need a certain level of skill to release a book on a subject, in my opinion, and Jazza has not reached that point.

>>7952959
>it's far lower than anyone on this board is willing to admit
The skill required to make it in comics is absolutely staggering I'm assuming you're downplaying it by posting Scott because you think skill=being able to render all the human muscles and drawing cubes in perspective or some retarded shit instead of things that constitute 80% of the appeal like composition, color or pacing which picrel has in spades

>>7955902
>Any random twitter artist can draw ten times better than them so how do they cope?

When you get older you realize that being "the best" is really silly and vague also the 'best' is highly subjective, people will tell you that Harry Potter is the best fantasy series and Lord of The Rings is boring. People connect to different kind of works in different kind of ways and while other things may be considered great you may not have any interest in it. I've met someone who found who found paintings by Leonardo Davinci boring and Michael Angelo boring and they're considered the 'best'.
>I NEED to sell courses and teach others how to draw like this"
I don't like Greg Doucette but he was absolutely right when he said "All you need is to know 5% more the average person In order for someone to consider you an expert" and fortune favors the bold. Also what is he really losing from selling courses? He makes an evergreen product and leaves it dangling for whoever is silly enough to take it. People do not use money based on logic, and people have a lot to throw away, all major companies realized this and that's why everything is shit quality wise now.

>>7952414
idk what it is, but I've always found that avatar he still uses to this day utterly repulsive.

>>7954510
I think this looks great... what's wrong with it?

>>7952423
Pyw
You have all sources available now and you had all those years ahead of the zoomers. Show us what you can do.