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>Basic programs
https://opentoonz.github.io/e/
https://www.synfig.org/
https://motorpen.com
https://tupitube.com/
https://youtube.com/shorts/b4t-bS6zdUo?si=y1oY-ZGhK9Vzw6ZD

>Where should (you) start?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDqjIdI4bF4&t=674s [Embed] [Embed] [Open]
https://www.mediafire.com/file/cqz7iwex4mtzidu/ <---- [The Animator's Survival Kit *Video* course]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuNW9vLUxu4 <---- [The Animator's Survival Kit *Video* course]
http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/
https://bitey.com/pages/fx <---- [2D effects animation course:]

>Resources, Reference and Such
https://vimeo.com/groups/aniref
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRvspTjApofA2Yg3i10gTdQ
http://www.rhinohouse.com/
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post
https://www.catsuka.com/gengal/artworks/
https://setteidreams.net/settei/
https://setteidreams.net/artbooks/
https://setteidreams.net/color-designs/
https://www.olm.co.jp/rd/categories/opentools


>Sakuga Extended: Add ons to play video on sakugabooru frame-by-frame
https://www.sakugabooru.com/forum/show/964
Mozilla Firefox:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sakuga-extended/
Chromium based browsers:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sakuga-extended/khmnmdaghmhkcbooicndamlhkcmpklmc


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>>7953441
nice work OP.
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Coloring her in : DDD
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>>7953441
Working on the next one right now!

>>7953531
looks great!


I created a twitter and newgrounds account but the animation recieved little attention. That's life
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>>7953441
ew porn sloppa OP
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>>7953580
Whats your twitter? Cant find you on "sexy beetle"
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>>7953719
It's the first thing I found looking for their handle: https://x.com/sexy_beetle

>>7953580
>I created a twitter and newgrounds account but the animation received little attention. That's life
You only just started posting with those accounts. It's a game of accumulation, very few can get lots of followers with just an image or two, and usually that only happens because they have a reputation already, like being a well known animation director, or videogame artist, or something.
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>>7953580
>https://youtube.com/shorts/b4t-bS6zdUo?si=y1oY-ZGhK9Vzw6ZD
how long did that animation in OP take, blank page to finished? and what software?

I'm pretty experienced in 3d animation (my preferred 2d animation right now would honestly be blender's grease pencil because I'm soooo fucking comfy in blender) and I'm even more experienced in figure drawing, but I haven't really broken the seal on 2d animation.
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Hello my fellow anons. Me just started here. What do you think of this book?
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>>7953729
>sexy_beetle
>>7953580
yep, search banned already and most likely shadowbanned as well. With nsfw you have to work fast enough to get a decent or large following before any of that happens, so once you do get any form of traction/following, it would continue to grow from that alone. Try to make fan art of a popular artist oc(That you like) with those animations of yours.
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>>7953719
@sexy_beetle

>>7953729
Yeah consistency is key. It's hard to post regularly with animations since it takes so long

>>7953744
around 25 hours of work give or take. I use Toom Boom Harmony, the best 2D software there is imo.
The good thing is that the base principles translate to any medium of animation, you can probably pick up 2D quite fast. I want to learn 3D too, the software is too complicated for my smooth brain though.

>>7953752
It's good, It's a classic for a reason but I would recommend the animators survival kit from richard williams over it
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>>7953774
I dont think I'm shadownbanned It was the same in most plataforms. I'm just an unknown artist

>>7953764
lol

I posted a breakdown of the animation I think you guys would like it
https://x.com/sexy_beetle/status/2059695401217720614
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>>7953752
I never really read any books I just watched youtube tutorials and animated what came to mind using my general knowledge of how animation works and the 12 principles
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>>7953794
People usually discourage it but hashtags on twitter seem to help with reach and growth. I've been drawing stuff for a niche fandom and using hashtags I've been gaining followers and engagement since. Not much but still better than the absolutely nothing at all that I used to get
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>>7953798
alright I'll try. Any particular ones?
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Fihshee
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>>7953794
>I dont think I'm shadownbanned
yeah you are shadowbanned, you got hit with the search suggestion ban, which means you are shadow banned unfortunately.
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>>7953804
I don't know it depends on the context of what you animate. If its fanart look up hashtags related to that franchise if its original nsfw then look up some nsfw tags other animators use or tags for the fetish if its specific
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>>7953814
Maybe.
I'm still getting likes. Other websites say I'm not shadowbanned. In any case there is nothing I can do so whatever.
It was an inactive account for years so maybe that caused it.
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>>7953580
Unironically post your art in related gooner art subreddits, your art will get attention, most of the nsfw artists I know post on reddit as well as twitter. Twitter shadowbans new accounts unless you post enough for several weeks. I don't know if getting followers will help that.
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>>7953832
sure i'll try.
I posted in NSFW art subreddits and it got removed in several automatically becouse I dont have enough karma or the account is new and so on. Reddit is weird.
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>>7953718
Last thread was particularly pornographic.
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>>7953977
Just keep trying. Your stuff is at a level where you can easily gain a following
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Question:
Does anyone know of a good web/json animation program, like lottiefiles or Rive, that is preferably not a shitscription?
I've been thinking of adding a bunch of animated elements to my website when I get around to making it, and I'd rather not have to pay any of these scumbag companies if I can.
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>>7953441
Hi 4chan
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>>7953441
i made this with procreate, edited the video with davinci resolve.

https://youtu.be/mzeJHPbJ7_w?si=JcDVYvO2duj5_j12
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only the dress is left : DDD
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>>7953441
Why is there shine on her ass checks? How does the direction of light make that work? Furthermore, the bounce light underneath makes no sense.
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>>7954469
Well it is a higlight and a reflected light.
Highlights dont follow directions and depend on your point of view. Image related

The other one (on the bottom) is reflected light from the ground. I imagined a shiny wooden floor that is reflecting the moonlight back to her cheeks.

Both are extemely exaggerated and are there to put focus on the butt. It is not a serious light study.

>>7954341
It is coming along great!

>>7954079
Hi!
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https://stephengregoryteaching.blogspot.com/2011/04/computer-animation-and-drawing.html
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>>7954506
>Both are extemely exaggerated and are there to put focus on the butt. It is not a serious light study.
Yeah, it's objectively wrong. Just own it being wrong instead of pretending it ain't.
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Don't engage with the troll SB he's just jealous
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>>7954787
I though that he was genuinely confused haha.
I do tend to sperg out when talking about animation and can come as condescending sometimes. I do agree that the highligh ended up being a little distracting but I need to move on to the next animation.

Anyways new wip.
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>>7954341
She's finally Completed : DDDD
with my work putting me through crunch
and this being a rather difficult one
it dragged through a solid 2 weeks
the weather being giga hot in my tropical shithole country didnt help
but now i feel more confidentas an animator : DDD

>>7954506
yay thanks for the praise fren
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>>7954469
>>7954664
>GIVE ME THE W!!!! ITS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MAKING ANYTHING HALF APPEALING!!
Fucking terminal crab over here. Makes a good point then immediately goes full retard.
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>>7955212
it’s really fantastic! many props to you, looks so nice i def feel it was worth all the effort.
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I think that my shadowban was removed

>>7955276
Damn that is looking good

>>7955212
So good! you are missing a shadow at the bottom of the cup
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>>7956211
this is fucking awesome!! flows really well and the facial expression and shake on them is great. looks very frantic. do you have socialz?
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>>7956247
thank you anon! mostly just post on instagram @mczee_sketch
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10 billion hours in CSP
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>>7953441
the red toned shading on the dude's skin makes it kinda look like bloody painal
don't like that
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>>7954079
wtf
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>>7956650
yeah I think I went overboard with the shadow opacity. I almost never do post production so I'm still learning on that aspect, and color is a weak point too. I still need to find a good production pipeline.
The new one has more tamed shadows. pic related

>>7956211
damn dude that looks good

>>7956593
Good smear! you could add a little follow through to make it look more fluid
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>>7954101
its simple i know, but overall what yall think? it was just to test out vocal syncing and editing on my mac, im working on a couple right now,
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>>7956692
The lipsync looks a little off, it is a very small sample so there is not much to say. Make yourself a mouth chart and use it, you can move the mandible a little too. Since it is a static character you can do that easily.
Remember that the mouth shape need to appear 1 or 2 frame before the sound.
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>>7956694
thanks man, i appreciate this, im working on a couple of videos,
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>>7955212
Cute Asuka!
Where naked version?
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>>7956731
the silhoutte is pretty skintight nigga
get the cracked tvpaint from the archive n get to it
all you gotta do is erase the internal lineart n reclor the dress shadow to match skin shadow tones
its like ~30 frames tops
think of it as your first step into animation chumbud
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Hi, I'm really new to animation, are there any tips you can give me? Even important terms I should learn
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>>7956766
Google "Follow-through n anticipation in animation"
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>>7956766
learn the 12 principles. practice a lot of bouncing balls
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>>7953441
I like it. Her right arm is supposed to be a point of stability I guess, but it doesn't seem to be holding anything. Maybe the guy's foot?
>>7955276
Looks cool. The pause in motion of the waves has a dramatic feel
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been burnt creatively i need to lock in
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>>7956792
>>7956806
Thanks for the advice
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>>7956811
Thanks! yeah when I finished the rough animation I noticed the same problem. I could either animate the upper body again, add a stool or short table, I was too lazy to do it again and I found the table distracting so I just said fuck it and left it like that.
Just imagine that she is holding something lol
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>>7956792
>>7956806
nta
Do you think that learning animation is a good way to learn figure drawing, for someone that is bad at it and stagnating?
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>>7956959
you can learn them at the same time THRU animating but depends what you want. generally the more detailed a character is anatomically the longer it takes to animate
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well it's mostly done, It just needs a couple more effects and to the next one

>>7956959
it's good for figure drawing but mostly to capture dynamic movement. You dont NEED to learn animation for figure drawing
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>>7956981
I forget the pic
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>>7954079
she’s back, the monstrosity is back
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>>7953441
the poop on his dick really ruins that animation
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>>7957109
tableguy, stop
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>>7956985
This is amazing, and whatever blog you have, I hope the movie brings you lots of followers and shit
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>>7956985
I have a question, how do you animate gradients? or am i wrong?
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>>7957287
Thank you! It's being posted later today, I hope that I get more views this time

>>7957383
Depends, some are flat colors I just add a blur effect (bokeh blur is my favorite) others are gradients, Toon Boom has a great gradient editor tool so it's pretty easy
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>>7957592
It's probably easier if I show you with a picture
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>>7957593
I finished that pomni one surprisingly quick
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>>7957872
*you
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>>7957593
what method do you go about for adding the gradients anon san?
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The new animation broke the 200 likes!

>>7957888
It's all on the documentation, let me hook you up with links.

https://learn.toonboom.com/modules/introduction-to-animation1/topic/adding-a-gradient-colour-swatch1
https://learn.toonboom.com/modules/drawing/topic/using-the-edit-gradient-and-texture-tool
https://learn.toonboom.com/modules/drawing/topic/using-gradients-and-textures

TL:DR add a gradient swatch, fill an area with it, modify it with the edit gradient tool

>>7957872
It was not quick at all haha, I am going full time but I need to stop a little sadly
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my first animation
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>>7958405
whoa, stellar! never thought you’d post an alt media treat like this. i really love it.
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>>7958152
huge congrats! totally well earned reception
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>>7958405
the little thing pressing the hearth bottom made me laugh.
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>>7958152
hmmm i remember when 200 likes used to make me happy, the more you get the worse it gets just dont animate for likes please i got to a point where 5k likes was not enough for me, think about the money at the very least that gives something back.
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>>7958152
where's the throatpie finish
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>>7958405
That is SO good for a first, well done

>>7958422
Thanks!

>>7958425
Well yeah but I need followers to make money eventually. What amount of followers should I have to open a patreon?
Also. Is patreon the best plataform?

>>7958435
I know I wanted to do one but I need to churn up more animations T_T
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>>7956755
>from the archive
What are you talking about?
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>>7958621
open wide anon
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>>7958631
thanks anon
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>>7958631
dolphin porn
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>>7958468
I think 5k is a good number to start a patreon, you have to understand that the amount of followers you get is mostly fake, out of those 5k probably 50 or 100 are real followers that will watch and react to your stuff when it comes out, 5k is probably 5 or 4 comissions if you have the willpower to work like that, patreon is a decent option as long as you know how to deal with the antiporn nonsense (link your videos to google drive, mega, whatever you like using) dont post porn thumbnails because patreon might react to it, kofi or cofee whatever is called i have seen many artist use it, i also know that cash app is an app you might want to use for comissions because the few i worked with used that as their main way of paying, also use paypal but understand that you have to be very sneaky about it, create a fake reason why you receive payments like you are providing a fake internet thing, advisor or some shit so paypal doesnt nuke you account, if you get paid inmediately take it out of there and move it to payoneer or airtm or whatever you like using because paypal will 100% try to stay with your money.....

If you do a comission dont work with retards that ask for too much, filter them by rising your prices because they will try to take advantage of you, also try to use your comissions on your main website so you gain followers while also making money, also make very clear what type of content you want to make because people is willing to pay a lot for weird shit that you cant really capitalize on like loli or gross stuff...

Also consider a pasive income like locking temporarily content on patreon, or just completely paywalling some exclusive stuff, maybe you can paywall whatever content you will never finish, its shit to you but may be enough for someone that wants that little extra from you, there is also alternatives to patreon, just visit big artist and see what they use.
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>>7958682
Thank you for all your advice! It is very helpful.

I though about posting the 4k versions and the animation files only on patreon. Maybe have a tier to give animation advice?
Like always, I'm pretty lost on those aspects, but I'm going to check out other artists patreons to see what they do.

I didnt know about patreon being anti NSFW I though that those was a huge amount of the creators on that platform
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Why is animation so hard guys fuckkkkkk

I probably shouldn't be complaining since this is like the 5th thing I've ever animated but I don't know I feel like I should be better at this

>>7958915
Holy fuck Lois I'm cumming
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>>7958915
Your stuff is nice! I'll try to help you out if I can
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>>7958915
Hey it seems like things were successful
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>>7958682
Not him, but I've been stuck at 500 followers for about 6 years. This is my most recent work.
How am i suppose to reach 5k followers? my time on this earth is not infinite.
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>>7959914
>How am i suppose to reach 5k followers? my time on this earth is not infinite.
Put the dildo inside her next time
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>>7959420
It is hard, specially at the beginning. Animation is not intuitive, it took a long time for me to grasp basic concepts like spacing and timing.
You should focus on basic excersices at the start, a lot of bouncing balls and stuff.

>>7959445
Thank you!

>>7959898
Sheesh right now it's at 5.8k likes and I think I got around 500 follows. I coudn't have done it without all the anons advice from here and the shortstack thread so thank you for the sound advice. It REALLY helped.
I have a long way to make it but this is a huge boost. It relied on this big event though so I dont expect my next animation to pull those numbers again.

>>7959914
From what I learned:
1: Follow trends
2: Post with key words (in my case Pomni, Digital Circus and animation)
3: Post in any relevant place possible
4: Animation does WAY better than static images, if you add a small head movement and blink you can get more attention I think. The downside is that it takes a lot of time to learn but you can "cheat" and learn simple cut-out and rigging with Moho for example
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>>7959953
Oh no no no, I didn't give you any advice, I just retweeted your pomni animation on my largest account to give it some traction. Normally it's a crapshoot based on the individual I retweet, but you getting 5k is pretty good by my book especially for as late at night as I did it lol.
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>>7959956
That's good too, Thank you!
I guess that people left horny after the movie. I dont know at what time or day I'm supposed to post.
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>>7959968
Try for 9am PST or 9am EST it doesn't matter which Or 12pm PST/EST. You picked a solid time, but TADC is probably gonna be evergreen until the fandom fully implodes.
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I'm returning to daily animations
the popularity of the eva posts is dragging me away from my roots
i'll do the popular posts but not at the expense of my waifus
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>>7953441
>>7958152

What the hell do I have to do to get this damn good?
Right now I'm just grinding anatomy and drawing what I want
Should I add TVpaint into it as well?
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>>7960376
lol
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>>7959970
Thanks! I'll try to post at that time

>>7960001
looking good!

>>7960361
software wont make you good and learning anatomy is great but animation is a diferent skill. You can create impressive animation with stick figures.
Learn the 12 principles and do basic excersices. Animation takes a lot of time to understand.

>>7960376
haha, nice
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>>7960561
What anatomy book would you recommend alongside learning animation? I don't want to be so autistic about anatomy, a quick one might be good too.
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>>7960572
I dont know about books but proko and mark bruner anatomy courses are great. For animation I would recommend learning a basic construction that works for you and then concentrate in the line of action, weight and balance.
You can animate simple things like a arm pointing or head turn
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what's a good zoomie friendly animation learning resource? animator's survival kit is too wordy.....

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