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>>7956709
ftfy

but point still stands

>>7956713
So you are telling me that if I dedicate and apply myself, the tendency is to improve? This sounds silly, anon.

>>7956709
counter argument: the amount of /beg/s on here that have drawn and posted for years somehow without improving at all

He's figured it out
Shut it down

Gonna need a peer reviewed source on this.

>>7956709
>>7956734
The actual relationship is that you draw more when you improve

>>7956709
if /ic/ could read they would be very upset

>>7956709
Every single day we post new examples of people who have drawn for years and gotten nowhere.
If you don’t have talent you are fucked and that’s that

>>7956751
It was revealed to OP in a drawabox stream

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No, this can't be! The only way you can become a good artist is to be born a Japanese person. If you're not japanese, you must spend your days creating time wasting threads about twitter drama and fellating the glorious Nippon instead of drawing.

>>7956713
are you retarded

>>7956709
The people you are seeing are just the ones who are talented, a tiny fraction.
The artists that fail are hidden and countless.

>>7956765
>>7956810
The graph is less about quantity = quality, but more about quality consistently accompanied by quantity.

Also, you don't need talent to make it. You need talent to be the best of the ones who make it. Anyone can play the violin professionally, but only a few can be first seat in an orchestra.

>draw more and you will improve
>what about all the anons with low IQ and crippling autism??

>>7956709
That's how it is with learning, period. There's a reason why humanity exploded in progress after the scientific method was developed. Knowledge is also cumulative, instead of reinventing the wheel, we can skip that step and continue where someone else left off. Learning anything like drawing is the same way.

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>>7956709
>>7956764
fixed

>>7956813
>violin
Really weird example because classical music is one of the primary examples of a field where if you don't start when you're 3 years old you are ngmi. Drawing is much more forgiving (in terms of being able to start late) than classical orchestral music.

>>7956709
How about some ACTUAL advice?

>>7956709
that graph is upside down

>>7957069
You would come to a website where people try to make people cook mustard gas for actual advice?

"The more you draw, the better you get" advice is obvious and true, but there's a caveat to it;you need to actually push yourself when drawing. If you just draw the same old thing over and over, there's going to be little development, if any at all.
You can't expect to draw muscular men well, when all you do is draw waif women.

You'll need to push yourself, try other styles, other topics, other drawing methods.

>>7956734
drawing 30 mins once a week to every couple of months doesn't mean shit, anon.

>>7957262
I think people just don't realize that over time the amount of time you put into art begins to ramp up. 30 minutes used to feel miserable. Now I can easily do 4 hours of study before getting to actually drawing what I want to do (usually incorporating things from my study) which can take anywhere from a couple hours to even longer if I get particularly motivated. I've worked up to this though because I can easily recall a time where I felt miserable just sitting there doing what felt like nothing.

>>7957266
>I think people just don't realize that over time the amount of time you put into art begins to ramp up
that's the biggest factor. People would blame their "lack of" talent for their skills, when it's more of them not actually drawing. All these tutorials and guides means fuck all if you don't even draw in the first place to utilize it. I'm sure you seen many post from artist online that would gloat or say they don't want to do studies because it's "too hard" or "boring".

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>>7957069
Practice isn't a sufficient condition for improvement. Preserving mental health and intelligence is far more important. Thus stay away from dopamine rapists like social media and narcissists (catecholamine autotoxicity).

>>7956709
correlation is not causation

they drew more because they were already artists, their art just got better because they polished their work, not because the artist got better

either you're born an artist, your you aren't
its that easy, you can't just "get talent", that'd be magic, and magic isn't real.

>gaslight
>gatekeep
>goyboss

>>7957219
>You can't expect to draw muscular men well, when all you do is draw waif women.
Don't mention that in the references thread, people will inherently accuse you of being gay for trying to expand on references. Those people are so tied up in having it be temu-styled /s/ and only wanting fap material that having any dude at all is like pouring salt directly on their eyes. God forbid anons learn how to draw a cool dude from any pose.

>>7959582
>t. nodraw permabeg

>>7956734
You obviously have to be smart and draw with purpose to improve, possess some critical thinking,not be a retarded nigger, but that doesnt nullify the required mileage, it's both, like with any manual skill in existence

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After all these years I began to realize everyone here is either a sheltered or a mentally ill retard, probably both for most
If you have anything above 110 iq and have done any physical activity for an extended amount of time like cooking, yardwork, cleaning w/e you'd know developing a skill requires in-the-moment critical thinking and years of experience, it has to be both
If you've been drawing for 5 years and you're still an /int/ just stop, go stack amazon warehouses, I dont need more braindead emasculated faggots in this hobby

>>7960486
Pyw. You must be /pro/ right?