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how the fuck am i supposed to draw backgrounds
If it's something like a flowerbed honestly i don't care, i can see it will take a lot of time but it's doable you just have to spend time on it, but BUILDINGS?? Machinery?? The human hand literally doesnt have the precision to draw on a fucking TINY grid, and its not just any grid, its a perspective grid, I have to place like 500 lines all aligned each other perfectly taking the z axis distortion into account. This is literally fucking grunt work you hire assistants for to trace 3d models, how am i supposed to do this as an adult working a 40 hour week?
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>>7958842
You're not a gen ai algorithm, you don't have to draw every detail
You can be selective
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>>7958844
bullshit, i cant draw one book from that reference picture or one window or one leaf, i either draw one or none
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>>7958846
>i either draw one or none
>draw
>none
>draw none
So did you try that? How long did it take?
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>>7958847
if i draw nothing theres no background faggot
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>>7958848
Are the leaves and the books the only thing in the background ya cunt rocket?
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>>7958849
its not gonna look like anything if just draw 3 cubes for the buildings and a couple of blobs for the bushers, what makes it look like what its supposed to be is 40 windows 30 books and an uncountable number of leaves
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>>7958851
You can't even see the individual leaves in your fucking low resolution photo for ANTS and you can still tell what it is. The books are only recognizable as such from context. What makes you think you have to draw every single individual leaf?
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>>7958842
you... you can simplify the little details you know?
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>>7958852
this doesnt matter, its called growth principle, to get a believable macro image you have to build it out from details, random squiggles wont look like leaves
>>7958857
you cant simplify a grid, its a grid, its arleady in its simplest form
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>>7958859
what the hell are you trying to make exactly it sounds like you're overthinking and making it harder for yourself than it is
have you even put the pen to paper/screen yet
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>>7958860
i literally gave a reference picture in the op what are you talking about?
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>>7958842
>but BUILDINGS??
its more important to learn their components and look at what they look like than to follow a grid. Grids is more like tools you use when things doesn't look right.

I am not a cityscape specialist but when I watch them paint they do use a lot of pattern duplication and perspective warping trickery to make building parts very quickly, but I couldn't really elaborate on that because I either use 3D models or draw everything by hand.

If you have a deadline to meet, then just use 3D models or stock and be transparent about it.
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>>7958865
there are numerous grids here
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>>7958866
ok?
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>>7958867
btw the wonky perspective in here hurts my eyes, so i cant take your advice because i literally dont want to draw this sorry, its the worst of both worlds
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>>7958842
You're supposed to do it because you like it
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>>7958842
paint the overall effect, not the details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt5T4bOAqgE
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>>7958891
now lets see him paint the "overall effect" of a building
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>>7958891
you just need click on the videos tab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-d-SMbv9RE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1zppH5PSig
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i don't have the will power to not kill myself when my painting looks like this in the first 10 minutes
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>>7958899
I have a similar problem and I feel you but you really have to get used to this way of working, there's nothing more quintessentially /beg/ than fixating on details in the early stages of a drawing.
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>>7958899
paintings usually go through an 'ugly' phase (it's even worse for portraits)
just trust the process
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>>7958891
not OP but i tried it, wtf is this shit
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>>7958912
nice, but your values are all wack
start with a mid gray background to prevent this
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>>7958912
not bad, lets make the colors sharper
How long did this take you btw
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>>7958918
i started right after that post, around 40min i guess
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>>7958842
Thumbnail in preparation for the full drawing.
Shape-based approach is usually a lot easier than a line-based one.
Oftentimes noise and detail are indistinguishable.
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>>7958987
Damn that looks great, nice job.
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>>7958918
His work is better, /beg/tard, painting isn't about copying screencaps with shit tier value composition
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>>7958987
nice
>>7959012
retard
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>>7958912
SOVL
>>7958918
soulless
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>>7958912
based pastelchad, never listen to crits without work posted
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>>7958899
perspective's fucked, but it looks good
honestly, you don't even have to take it much further if it's just the backdrop
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>>7959024
muddied desaturated colors does not equal pastels lmfao
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>>7959040
you sound butthurt and jelly, pyw crab
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>>7959049
You can't even read what you just posted dumbass
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>>7959054
>retard can't read
the entry is for pastel shades, retard, not pastel painting
nobody thinks the digital painting was done in pastels, it was done in high key pale colors, ie pastel shades
now pyw jelly faggot, you can't even theorycraft without getting assraped
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>>7959049
i dont see how what changes the fact that their colors are muddied? like the other person was a cunt but pretending like their art is perfect is just hug boxing them.
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>>7959059
>fact
demonstrate the fact, I'll wait
>the other person
lol
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>>7959060
demonstrate what exactly? my skill? you're being overly defensive about it all so i have no choice but to believe its yours and you got butthurt that somebody decided to "correct" what you were going for, so my advice to you is if you're going to do pastels don't desaturate your colors o much. The whole point of pastels, especially in digital, is the vibrancy of the hues at higher tints. If you muddy them it just looks dull and washed out. Less pastel and more dead.
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Imagine seething because someone liked someone else's sketch on the internet
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>>7959066
>pale high key colors
>pale
>vibrancy
holy esl pseud
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>>7959076
take what I say or don't, literally does not matter one single bit to me whether you take the crit or not. lmfao.
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>>7959080
>l-lmfao
matters quite a bit, considering how asshurt you are that you're not taken seriously
butthurtpost some more, that'll show me how unaffected you are roflcopter
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>>7959080
>literally does not matter one single bit to me
>17 posts by this id
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>>7958987
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>>7959012
>>7959019
fucking insane crabbery holy fuck
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>>7958842
Either learn to draw the idea of detail or use filters on photos
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>>7959012
his works literally didnt look like the the image you posted untill anon edited it, you're so fucking stupid it borders on malice
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>>7959146
Stick to floating Loomis heads, /beg/gie.
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Kek I really trolled 5 people ITT with a single post. Today was a good day
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>>7959169
i literally deathmog you, pyw
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>>7959208
...so you die more than me? sorry about your blindness btw

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