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Do I really just need to draw more stuff like this to improve at art? Im a complete beginner and I want to draw characters from games and other things, so I checked guide
>Find a reference, then copy it.
Spent 6 hours to create this shit and im not like dissapointed cuz i didnt expect it to be good at all and liked the process, but the thing that is concerning me that do i need to spend time on coloring and details on art like i did this time, or i need to focus rn on stuff like just lines, sketches, boxes etc. Would be grateful for any other tips, also i dont really have references to draw from, so if anyone have nice manga panels or just cute anime girls i save them and try to draw them (u wont see result because thread would be dead by the time when i finish even one)
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>Im a complete beginner
Just draw it then. Don't color it.
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>>7958923
I'd recommend to start by using a 4x4 grid to copy the figure
you can gradually make the grid have less resolution as you improve your observation skills
then you can move on to using stuff like plumb lines and envelopes to be accurate faster
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>>7958923
what are your goals?
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>>7958923
It's not that bad for a beginner, though you likely used the eye dropper for colors and it took you 6 hours of which I'd assume ~5 hours went into the details and clothes and coloring.
The biggest issue is the head: the face is all wrong and the hat needs to be bigger and its base needs to be curved.
Keep drawing, but also observe and don't immediately jump into colors and detail.
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>>7958923
Yes. 6 hours is normal. When I first started I also take like 6-8 hours for a piece that'll just take me 1-2 hours nowadays (and much better too)

Usually what you'd do is you make sure the big shapes and big features are correct first. Like the body, arms placement, head shapes (you can just put a grid or trace the original refs so you can then overlay it on top of your own drawing to identify the mismatches. THEN you start adding the details and decals, by marking where it should start and end (like frills, laces), You don't have to overload your brain in the drafting phase for these tiny details, when the big shapes are correct those tiny details will naturally flow in as you can compare from the reference where those laces position would start/end. Genshin/Hoyo characters imo have way too many details and decals even I fucking hated any commissions with them lol.

Also I have one recommendation. You can follow Saito Naoki's art correction videos. Find the ones where it's closest to your skill level. First, you try to copy the pre-corrected art at the end as-is with your best ability and knowledge.

Then afterwards you can try to watch the video as he correct the artwork and then you try to implement what he's showing, also to the best of what you can do at the moment.
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>>7958926
thats what i thought middrawing but choose to finish the drawing anyway
>>7958929
I will try, thanks
>>7958930
to draw anime style characters and animals probably
>>7958934
About head, yeah, I drew head and hat yesterday in 40m session and today did all the other staff, but at the end i was really tired to spend any more time to fixing stuff. About colors not sure what u meant by eye dropper (esl) but i have timelapse of middrawing thought this also could help on pointing errors.
Thanks to all! i understood now that i need to avoid using colors for now and draw more
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>>7958937
forgot to update thread before submitting, oops
I'll do art correction videos, thanks. Yeah, i figured out that i didnt quite understand when drawing that i can just do the lines first and then details. For me it was
>im gonna draw arm, then clothes near to it, then details on it
Instead of just doing lines and then moving to details
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Not the OP.
Be brutally honest. Which level is possible to achieve after 30?
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>>7958946
Varies wildly. Talent is real.
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>>7958946
It depends on just how many time u can afford on studying. U probably have more stuff to do in ur 30+ then spend 6-7 hours per day to draw.
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>>7958946
It's over, esdeath anon. You should have made it 2 years ago...
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>>7958949
>>7958954
I mean I don't even expect a job or comissions because of all people who have been drawing for 20+ years comparing to me and AI. I asked about quality level.
>>7958956
Owari da...
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>>7958960
Still varies wildly. Some guys can pick up a pencil at 30 and reach pro level in a matter of 5 years. Some guys will struggle for 10 years to make something that doesn't look like a children's drawing.
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>>7958969
Just a few newby questions. Is there anything like bad habbits?
Is that normal to mix digital with paper?
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>>7958946
I started drawing at 30, things are doing well
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>>7958971
Yeah and yeah. But in general the main bad habit is staying in your comfort zone. Drawing should always feel difficult.
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>>7958978
Thanks. Well I will try to draw for a month and see if there will be any progress.
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>>7958980
Before you go. Come to /dad/ and join the website to keep track of your daily drawing. It'd be more fun. I'm also 20 days in my learning now.
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>>7958980
Just study, preferably start with a perspective book. Don't expect immediate results, draw every day and you'll get there.
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>>7958983
Maybe later when I will start drawing something seriously on the tab.
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>>7958946
Older is better for drawing, especially if you have the spare time. Young people struggle to practice and grind, older people have much better consistency in building the fundamentals.
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>>7958923
This is an unbelievably cute and precious attempt. Yes, you should keep drawing in order to improve. It works. Just make sure you are constantly comparing your work to the original study piece and making note of where it differs and what needs to be improved.
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>>7959001
thanks! when i posted OP I really thought that people gonna be more harsher about it. Cuz for me, it doesnt look good even for a beginner.
When I was comparing my work to reference i didnt really understand what i did wrong except proportions and wobbly lines. I definently see that i did something wrong cuz it doesnt line up with the reference. I dont understand exactly what went wrong, but if i wanted to fix that i need to redraw from the start so i just improvised. Anons earlier said that grid gonna help for figure and I will try that.
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>>7958923
Pick up a copy of Cognitive Drawing by Brubaker. Take your time to carefully look at references, then hide them and draw from memory. Then take out the references and draw while looking at them for 50% of the time spent drawing.

You should also do blind contours to improve your observational drawing skills and spend time tracing/breaking down references into shapes and forms. Do negative space drawings, upside drawings, etc. Grind shapes and forms.

In my experience, using a grid isn't very useful for drawing, it's better for painting.

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