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why foreigners do not respect japanese creators?
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>>220747458
do gaijins not know what copyright is?
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>>220747937
of course you idiot with finnish pose is proud of your nuisance acts
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>>220747458
Bow before your Shogun
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>>220747458
>won't you think of the poor rights holders
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>>220747819
you poop on street idiot
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>>220748462
you defend theft because you have no morals idiot
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I didn't know nips could get this angry about piracy. are torrents sites illegal in japan?
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Copying is not theft.
Stealing a thing leaves one less left
Copying it makes one thing more;
that’s what copying’s for.
Copying is not theft.
If I copy yours you have it too
One for me and one for you
That’s what copies can do
If I steal your bicycle
you have to take the bus,
but if I just copy it
there’s one for each of us!
Making more of a thing,
that is what we call “copying”
Sharing ideas with everyone
That’s why copying
is
FUN!
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>>220750357
I got my internet cut off by my landlord (they were providing) when I forgot to use VPN for direct download, not even torrent. Had to pay myself from a different ISP after that and triple check everything is enabled. It's a criminal (not civil) offense, you can go to jail for several years. I was lucky nothing else happened. Lucky it was just Konami and not Nintendo or I wouldn't be posting.
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>>220750432
>It's a criminal (not civil) offense, you can go to jail for several years
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>>220750432
>It's a criminal (not civil) offense, you can go to jail for several years.
huh, I thought the worst thing that could happen was getting a fine.
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>>220750259
japs literally can't differentiate morality from rule-following. fans infringing copyright because they want to play something that's no longer available and have no other options is not the same as theft.
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>>220750554
Average Japanese people are autistic bootlickers for Nintendo. They'll see a game with a tentacle monster being summoned to fight a birdman sword wielding monster being summoned by another, and they'll go "THIS IS JUST A RIP OFF OF POKEMON ISN'T IT??? NINTENDO PLEASE SUE!!!"
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>>220750619
do not talk about morality when you idiots act like this in japan
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>>220750454
Don't murderers in Japan get several year prison sentences?
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still no argument
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>>220752212
your argument is flawed idiot
that is not excuse to do theft
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>>220752656
I am honored, but I do not deserve it.
A problem that I have involves skipping words because I think faster than I type.
It is especially embarrassing when skipping an article, which makes me look like a double ESL.
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>>220752678
all that is lie idiot
massacre of civilian and rape and torture is propaganda by victor countries
learn real history idiot
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>>220747458
I thought the discourse around this was really interesting to see. It's such a cultural divide that it almost feels like both sides are talking to aliens.
From what I gathered, Japanese otaku have a strange symbiotic relationship with corporations, where there is a sort of mutual respect for each other. Breaking that relationship is seen as ridiculously taboo in the same way it would be seen as taboo to insult the mom and pop store that goes out of their way to provide their best service and gives back as much as they can to their community. Fan doujins and games are allowed and encouraged, older systems and games are super cheap and plentiful. Why would you want to go out of your way to fuck them over? We're all in this together, aren't we?
But on the other hand, westerners are shown negative respect by corporations, including Japanese ones and resent the fuck out of corporations as a whole because of it. Fan animations and games get copyright struck and banished into the shadow realm, older systems and games are stupidly expensive and rare as fuck to the point of being nonexistent. And corporations do everything within their power to fuck over the consumer as hard as they possibly can. In Japan you could petition a corporation to bring back servers for an old game with just a few people, but forget the fuck about it if you're anywhere else in the world. So Japanese people are confused and enraged by piracy or media preservation because they just can't comprehend that a corporation wouldn't be willing to provide a service or product if Otaku wanted it.
That's as far as I understand it anyway. Any Japs wanna correct my presumptions go ahead, I'm interested to know more about this stuff
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>>220754984
>Fan doujins and games are allowed and encouraged
Actually I've seen this very argument used against the japanese who are against preserving games by pointing out how hypocritical it is for them to be okay with doujins and fanart in general since those also infringe on the companies' copyright without permission, which is what they're accusing westerners of doing.
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The Japanese side is correct here. It’s completely immoral to violate the law in any fashion. It’s a violence against the legitimacy of government, and therefore against all people, as stable government is necessary for the realization of human nature, and therefore the achievement of human happiness. However, these companies are also certainly being unfair to consumers.
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>>220756505
Thankfully my country has more or less accepted piracy as legitimate
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>>220756186
JP companies are okay with it because it doesn't escape Japan, they can monitor it and use the law in cases they seem necessary. For westerners it's more slippery so better to smother it before it gets out of hand.
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>>220756505
a crime is a transaction with the state and what I'm getting what I consider a favorable trade for me (I pay nothing I get free game), if japanese companies wish to interfer with me they can either:
a) change the goverment I'm trading with
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b) fuck off
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i used to download anime raws from nyaa to practice listening and 95% of the seeders/leechers were from jap ips. there is also a japanese p2p client called Perfect Dark that's like 20 years old and i wouldn't be surprised if they still used that to get their animes
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I never robbed no citizen... stole a man's watch...
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>>220748634
Japs (not you, Pvt Gomez), are xenophobes and actually prefer dirty foreigners NOT to buy their stuff. They grudgingly accept selling innocuous Doraemon, Dragonball, Hello Kitty etc to foreigners but they actually get embarrased when foreigners fawn over what they consider to be their "cringe" guilty pleasures, i.e., they like the cringe stuff but don't want foreigners to find out. So they hide behind the copyright while refusing to sell it in an easy to buy manner.
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>>220750554
Japan really has something wrong when child abuse and rape can land you from a fine to just losing your job while pirating a nintendo game sends you to serve jail time
>>220757787
I used to download eroge/visual novels, and like 50% of the flags from seeders and leechers wre japanese, chinese flags were the second one like at 25% lol
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>>220757983
>Japs (not you, Pvt Gomez), are xenophobes and actually prefer dirty foreigners NOT to buy their stuff.
Retarded zoomer weeb, japs literally bent over and open their assholes and censor as much as they can to get to sell their games on steam
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>>220758349
so you idiot do not understand copyright
that is not excuse to do theft of copyright
this mindset of not respecting laws is why your country is low trust and poor development idiot
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>>220758606
They didn't steal the code, they made their own code, and they don't provide the game assets.
Its like making a CD player made specifically for a type of CD, but not giving you the CD itself.
There is no law against that. If you wanna talk about "theft of copyright" what about Comiket and those otaku selling Pokemon lolicon doujinshi. Did gamefreak allow that?
I don't know if you're ragebaiting or you actually have brain cancer. Was it from Fukushima or did you inherit it when the atom bombs hit your grandparents?
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>>220758708
doujin artist get permission from copyright owner idiot
the gaijin pirate did not get permission from square enix
it is not same idiot
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>>220750619
>fans infringing copyright because they want to play something that's no longer available and have no other options is not the same as theft.
Yes it is. Just because something is no longer on sale that doesn't give you the right to steal it.
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I only believe in copylefts.
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>>220761804
>It's called morality, I wouldn't expect you to understand
I do expect him to understand. That makes me better than you.
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>>220761840
>what got stolen?
Your asshole. During basic training. Due to dedovshchina.
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>>220761925
Nice pilpul, Ahmed.
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>>220762213
it's a crime of copyright infringement, patent infringement, or fraud in some cases, but not a theft. creator doesn't lose anything.
afaik you can uk laws allow pirating software unless you share it or make a profit of it.
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>>220762213
>The intellectual property belongs to the creator.
Yeah but the book, DVD and game cart belongs to me. So I can copy it how much I want, the physical medium is mine.
Of course, I can't sell or distribute it, but I can copy it as much as I want.
Also since I can lend someone a book, DVD, or cartridge, I can lend the copy too, he's gonna return it to me of course ;)
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>>220747937
Beautiful.
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>>220747937
lol
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>>220763907
your argument is we pirate because we do not care about rules and law
this mindset is why your country have high crime rate idiot
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>>220765101
do not talk about morals when you cannot even follow basic rule and law idiot
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>>220769387
you are not same level as japan idiot
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>>220770338
>Drinkable water is avaliable for PURCHASE everywhere
Yeah even Brazil is beyond Japan, there are public fountains and most people just drink tap water or filtered water. You are subhuman if you're paying for something so basic.
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>>220770338
I want the Japanese to protect their country but they are so embarrassing and stupid
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>>220748634
What happens if cp becomes legal in Japan again? Does the entire Japanese internet get firewalled? Please that would be so funny. No more manga and anime and you couldn't even move there because everyone would judge you
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>>220770651
your tap water and food is not safe to eat idiot
in japan you do not have to worry about salmonella or e coli unlike your country
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>weave za moruti-birrion dorra compuni aronaru
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>>220771605
America brought them fire a couple of decades ago
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>>220771898
>in GERMANY everyone has Toxoplasmosis because we eat so much raw meat and cat shit
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>>220771014
you still have backward mindset from middle ages idiot
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>>220752212
also that image was refute
gaijin really think theft is not bad thing
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PLEASE STOP TORRENTING
PLEASE STOP STEALING JAPANESE WORKS
Japanese people ONLY make $654,837 a year after taxes for being animators!!!
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>>220771644
of course you idiot is proud of the genocide of innocent civilians
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>>220776161
More aroused than proud
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>>220756677
>For westerners it's more slippery so better to smother it before it gets out of hand.
And I'm STILL mad about it.
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>>220775325
This is so funny I had to look it up and check the replies.
https://x.com/TairaNoKinmori/status/2044058546627850658