>>222159866
This is why you'll always be irrelevant

>>222160064
Fpbp

>>222160123
>>222159866
I'm actually learning your language. It's surprisingly fun due to how easy it is. My only dislike is how the grammar in some words are backwards (for example shirt black instead of black shirt)

>>222160188
That's the right order thoughbeit

>>222159866
You should speak dutch.

>>222160284
ik ook kankermongool
How was it?

>>222159866
>Instead of adopting ex-colonizer's language like cuck
Bahasa Indonesian is literally just Malay THOUGH, MelakaBVLLS won

>>222159866
Interesting

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>>222160888
>The Kedukan Bukit inscription (Indonesian: Prasasti Kedukan Bukit) is an inscription discovered by the Dutchman C.J. Batenburg[1] on 29 November 1920 at Kedukan Bukit, South Sumatra, Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia), on the banks of Tatang River, a tributary of Musi River. It is the oldest surviving specimen of the Malay language, in a form known as Old Malay.[2] It is a small stone of 45 cm × 80 cm (18 in × 31 in). This inscription is dated 1 May 683 CE.
Lmao

>>222161086
Srivijaya was Malay, not Indonesian. There's no such thing as an Indonesian before the modern day, it's not an ethnicity. There is no Indonesian language. It's Malay.

>>222161125
So what? The concept of Malay as a distinct sociopolitical concept born here, in the territory of Republic of Indonesia
Don't bring your limpdicked wypipo's colonial politics here

>>222159866
Cringe

>>222161657
No, bro. The Brits created the Malay category as it is understood today. Melayu used to be just one of the Nusantaran races, same with Jawa, Bugis, Dayak etc etc. But the Brits couldn't tell us apart, so they lumped a dozen races as "Malay" in Malaya. Regarding the "Bahasa Indonesia", we somehow managed to convince your country that was 100x our population to adopt OUR so-called Johor-Riau Malay dialect as the standard language under the pretext of pan-Nusantaraism. It amazes me that we managed to do it. By right, your national language should be Javanese. Not knocking my indon cuzz though. You made it work, which is an achievement nontheless.

>>222159866
But you adopted Islam

>>222159866
A recording of an Arab man screams out of thousands of speakers 5x a day in your country.

>>222160188
Cock black big

>>222160188
>My only dislike is how the grammar in some words are backwards
the idea is that we took representation of our peoples mind and civilization to our language structure. Never happened before with other country

>>222163412
>Malay originated from Sumatra
>Major Malay polities are originated from Sumatra
>Dutch East Indian adopted the national language all by themselves
>"CIIIIIKKKKKK PENINSULA POWAAAAAAAA!!!!!!"
???

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>>222159866
Isn't every region separatist and your different ethnicities are constantly getting into race wars where you behead each other and burn each others shops?

>>222160188
This is the correct order

>>222163412
>we somehow managed to convince your country that was 100x our population to adopt OUR so-called Johor-Riau Malay dialect as the standard language under the pretext of pan-Nusantaraism
Is this what your country put in your school textbook to cope with Malaysian-Chinese achievement or some shit? We have like 20-25% different vocabs and completely different accent

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>>222163842
Why are they like 300 million thoughever? If we had that many people we could conquer the world without any issues.

>>222163842
no

>>222160188
maybe it helps if you imagine it as
>a shirt [that is] black
>a shirt of black colour
>a shirt, black
>>222160260
>>222163851
Romance cope

I used to work in a Japanese restaurant owned by Indonesians (all Jap restaurants in the West are owned by Chinese and SEA monkeys, btw) and I used to have to listen to your shitty language for 5 hours every night. It literally sounds like primitive speak. Like people in desperate in need of colonization.

>>222164108
It makes sense though
Why the fuck would you put irrelevant adjective first before the actual main object? Without the object, that adjective is fucking useless, so shove their fucking ass and put them in the back

>>222164012
Why are wypipo always trying to conquer something? Why can't they live in peace?

>>222164183
Putting the adjective first influences how I think of the noun. If you say apple green, I was already thinking of a red apple and now have to make it green. If you say green apple, I have the green ready to put into the shape of an apple.

>>222165079
But that's reasoning motivated.

>>222165121
Is that bad?

>>222165185
No, we all have our preferences cultural.

>>222165230
That's what keeps things interesting.

>>222161125
true. Indonesia as a nation is a completely modern invention just like Kenya, Nigeria, and Pakistan.
>>222163412
the Riau in Johor-Riau is in Indonesia though
>>222163813
not necessarily disagreeing with you but whether or not Malay as a people or as a language came from Sumatra is completely irrelevant because the modern Malay identity was created by the Malacca Sultanate which was definitely peninsular. Pre Malacca Malay culture is irrelevant, you might as well be talking about aliens.

This is unironically fucking based. Adopting your colonizer's language is cringe as fuck.

>>222159866
Also I feel like it's cheating implicitly to claim this when you live on chain islands and many of the groups ethnic are apart split. Divisions island help stop conflicts ethnic a lot. Obviously not between groups ethnic on the island same, but you are dealing still with a scale different from say, the Balkans. At least that is theory mines.

>>222160260
>>222163851
It's the mental illness way and makes you think backwards and wrong and that's why we winned in the end!!!!

>>222165420
partially true but I think the more consequential factor is that Indonesian nationalism effectively smothered any kind of ethnic based nationalism that would have developed under different circumstances. compare this with Yugoslavia, where the constituent ethnic groups already had their own sense of nationalsim, but we're essentially forced to unite under Serbia, a nation that by that point also had a strong feeling of Serbian nationalism of their own rather than Yugoslav nationalism.

>>222159866
based. imagine if indonesia spoke dutch and had made it an actually relevant language.