>>50824852
We have a few enthusiasts, including myself, of Yukkuri abuse here, but it remains unpopular on this board because many find it distasteful. If you're talking about the not so unhinged side of the Yukkurifandom then sure, there's plenty of those around.

>>50824863
I thought so... That's a little disappointing.
But...it might be similar in some ways to what's called "spiritual" in Japan.

I wanted to say Miss Spicky.

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>>50824852
Ah yes, because a Japanese man would obviously have an "images.jpg" filename on his computer.

Anyway, I think yukkuri are cute. Don't particularly like the abusive part of the fandom, or even the annoying depictions of them, either.

>>50824879
>But...it might be similar in some ways to what's called "spiritual" in Japan.
Can you elaborate on that?

>>50825007
Sorry, that was a mistake, it's Spiki, Spiki That is Korean This is based on the game. In Japan, it's common to see people making Spiki cry, so I feel like something somewhat similar is happening here.

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>>50824852
>does anyone know about it?
you dumb gooks need to make less works where they are just being killed/abused without any reason other than pure sadism
the concept of living magical food creatures trying to survive or even thrive in a modern world/human society can make stories that are more interesting than just "let's torture this semi-sentient magical manjuu because they annoy me or something"

>>50825205
The most interesting aspect of Yukkuri for me has always been the world building of such settings. Like what would be the implications of such creatures existing out of the blue one day? What would have to happen for a class of seemingly sentient critters to piss society as a whole off so bad that it becomes legal and even encouraged to kill them whenever possible? I assume humans would be curious and even understanding at first, probably even given them protective rights, but how badly would they really have to behave before those rights are taken away and we have the settings most often seen in Yukkuri comics?

I know most comics don't really go into it and the artists themselves probably don't think too hard on it, but it's something I like thinking about when seeing Yukkuri stuff.

>>50825205
>>50825262
I should also note that I'm not OP, just someone who is autistic about these kinds of things.

>>50825262
pretty sure that most artists have never even started to think about the laws and regulations that would come up regarding yukkuris
they are by technicality, semi-sentient creatures capable of some rational and cognitive thinking, somehow also possessing the ability to inherit knowledge of human language and other things directly from their parents, they even have the qualities and appearance of a person in certain regards, and in some works they are even intelligent enough form their own society/tribes with their own rules and laws
i highly doubt that the world would just band together to exterminate or abuse them, no matter how much of a lazy shithead nigger pest they have the potential to become
i'm pretty sure that they would be 'employed' by humans in one way or another instead of just being another fancy pet or food item (which might even be illegal due to their intelligence)

There's threads about them sometimes in this board, it usually devolve into abuse, like jissouseki threads in futaba, though don't expect to find them right now, this board seems to have decreased in quality recently.

>>50825378
I wonder what they would be classified as, if scientists studied their biology and came to the conclusion that they were not "true" life due to their inorganic make up. Would there be a possibility that they could end up classified as an imitation of life like something along the lines of AI?

I could also see a case made for their extermination after their initial novelty wears off due to how quickly they repopulate and how much trouble cleaning up after their messes could potentially cost a city. There is also the danger that plentiful sweets could cause wildlife. Animals don't care what these things are classified as, they will only see them as food eat them, possibly leading to some kind of diabetes epidemic among animals.I'm sure smaller children might too if they aren't properly warned against doing so by their parents and the homeless will most certainly eat them, leading to to all kinds of illnesses.

All that said, I think it would stop with exterminations at the most extreme end. Maybe not to extinction, but just to manageable levels like other invasive species. I'm certain torturing them regardless of what they are classified as would still be seen as extremely unhinged behavior and while it may not be illegal, it would still reflect very poorly on the person doing it. Niche communities of people who are into it would likely still pop up but it wold never become a whole industry the way it is in Yukkuri settings. Even if Yukkuri end up being classified as inanimate objects entirely, I'm sure there would be a large public outcry for Yukkuri rights, given the human tendency to bond with even inanimate objects as it is. If those objects could so much as even imitate life then there are people who would surely fight for them no matter how nonsensical it is.

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>>50825458
Scenarios like these always make me wonder what would people start thinking about 2hu and 2hu fans in general.
The actual fans' reactions are somewhat predictable, plenty would try to get like, a pet of their favorite or maybe a small group, and plenty would try to re-enact the abuse stuff. A lot of people would start thinking that Gensokyo is actually real, too.

>>50825458
they'd absolutely confound and leave the academia utterly dumbstruck by their existence, as it would drop the equivalent of a high-yield thermonuclear bomb into the debate of what is considered alive or not, especially if their biology is near-entirely magical in nature and they are capable of turning basically anything into more sweet paste
some yukkuris are portrayed as capable of holding actual intelligent and rational thoughts in their paste brains, and can possibly learn enough knowledge that they can be compared to that of a grade/primary schooler
this is pure conjecture but through survival of the fittest, it's possible that some would turn more intelligent or docile so that they can better mingle in with human society, others would turn more stealthy and get smaller in size (house yukkuris), and those who learnt to avoid humans as much as possible to become just another part of the ecology
maybe near-exterminations would be commonplace early on before they are fully accustomed to human society, but i think that eventually they'd wise up enough through their bean paste knowledge inheritance
eventually, smarter and socialized yukkuris might actually form their own civilization within the rules and bounds of human society and willingly do some work/labor in exchange for some food and shelter (everything they actually need)
some people might look at these yukkuri societies and see that their simple and easy lifestyle might turn out to be more favorable than the lifestyle they had prior... at least until the yukkuris get smart enough to invent slavery and forced labor, then it'd be like looking through a mirror of early human societies
>>50825508
ZUN will quite literally get a free lifetime supply of beer from every brewery in the world at his demand, he'd be seen as a prophet

Incidentally, in Japan, there's something called "Yukkuri Chaban Geki," which are story-like videos that use materials called "Yukkuri Voice" and "Kitsune Yukkuri." They range from comedy to something like shonen manga.
for example https://youtu.be/N9gnvn2z5v4?si=OvJVIDcog-pOfvbg
or
https://youtu.be/WnJVQcu1-6g?si=b2olGifX0xKwsE_J

>>50825266
I have a similar disability too (lol), so don't worry.

>>50825536
>maybe near-exterminations would be commonplace early on before they are fully accustomed to human society
I feel like that would only come later. No matter how they act, I'm sure they would still be treated with curiosity and good will at first, at least by most. 99% of them are actually retarded so I can also see a scenario where they end up becoming a sort of pet too. Smarter than a regular animal (usually) but not quite smart enough to be a person. Should they be given the protections of an animal or the rights of a human? At least in the US, some religious groups would certainly fight against them getting human-like rights or even protections but there would be no shortage of bleeding hearts coming to the defense of Yukkuri.

I think the extermination scenarios would only start happening once they start causing property damage and prove either unwilling or unable to learn not to do it. Sure, most modern windows aren't so fragile that they can be broken by throwing a rock at it, and especially not at the force that a Yukkuri could generate, but I'm sure people wouldn't like rocks being thrown at their windows by Yukkuri that want to get inside or getting their yards and home grown vegetables ruined by them. While I don't think there would ever be a massive government funded campaign to exterminate them, I think it would eventually be allowed for people to take care of the problem themselves, like they already are with things like rats. The agricultural industry in particular would probably be invested in finding ways to deter them. That said, I'm sure particularly pissed people might occasionally take it further and border on the kind of stuff we see in Yukkuri comics. I'm reminded of the story about a college student who crucified and burned a rat because he was mad that it ate his turtle.

On that note, I could see some kind of crackdown on them if they end up hurting enough pets and small children while waving around sticks and toothpicks. I'm sure they would be isolated cases at best, left to the owners and parents to take care of, but if it happens enough then there might be some kind of government intervention.

>>50826224
i would consider the stage where yukkuris are smart enough to break into people's house/harm very little kids and critters/steal farmer crops as an intermediary/in-between stage before they have fully gotten smart enough to understand and integrate into human culture/society
paste knowledge inheritance might become the most busted thing ever, even if some works portray yukkuris as losing their memories every time they take a shit
it may allow humans to easily control their knowledge, docility, and other traits by methods of yukkuri eugenics

>>50825184
oh, there's speaki abuse memes too?
anyway, normal yukkuri are popular in the west, even without abuse

>>50826416
Yukkuri eugenics would likely be very possible, seeing as some works are centered around the idea of Yukkuri being bred with certain traits, though usually bad ones for the sake of abuse. Still, if that's possible then there's no reason why they wouldn't be able to breed out most of the negative traits for domestic Yukkuri. That seems to be done through training like a dog in some works but maybe it would require even less work if those base negative traits could be bred out. The question then would be whether or not society, and particularly the bleeding heart types, would find it unethical to do, and whether or not those voices would be loud enough to stop eugenics programs.

I've been thinking about how yukurri would look like irl, and they would probably be very uncanny valley and not cute at all like in the artwork.

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>>50827577
They're clearly magical, so there's no reason to imagine them as something that weird looking. I think they should be just like 3D anime models.
You know, like their eyes would still be flat 2D images, not like real eyeballs, hair that isn't really "hairy" at all, anime-esque lack of a nose, etc.
The biggest hurdle would be seeing them move for the first time, but after that, they'd seem as normal as any cat.

Yes, they do exist. In Japan, they're subjected to all sorts of unpleasant things, like being modified or having their pumpkins destroyed.
https://youtu.be/8O_On2uYOtk?si=IA7vC7THjBFAomPu
https://youtu.be/t41RLsu_oco?si=7--1YSdGb8rRXa6E

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TOTAL YUKKURI DEATH!! "TAKING IT EASY" IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN!!!

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>>50827577
If I saw this in the woods I would probably scream and smash it with a big stick.

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>>50827690
Is this one cute or uncanny?

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>>50824852
i detest yukkuri about as much as any other overused meme but people have a tendency to make very nasty scat/gore/etc. of the 'creatures' so i do not care for them

the post on 2ch or wherever it was they originate from was funny for about a minute, but they are only used in unfunny commentary videos and awful r34 now

>>50825608
fucking hell

>>50824852
ur probably larping being japanese but yeah we know about yukkuris

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>>50828163
どうやら私が日本人とは思ってないようだね?
もちろん私は“ロールプレイはしてるよ？英語を日本語にしたときのしゃべり方をね。あと、中二病だからね？私は
一応これで日本人(わからなくても日本住み)って証明が出来たかな？

>>50828163
We have all kinds of foreigners on this site, but I noticed that Japanese ones are the only ones that tend to be doubted for it.

>>50828242
Knowing that, I came to this 4chan.

>>50828051
Definitely a bit weird, but maybe something you could get used to over time.

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Damn Yukkuris, invading humans' farms and eating everything like they own the place. Need abuse correction.

>>50828551
Imaging having a guy working on the farm whose entire job is to smash Yukkuri with a big stick before they can get close enough to touch the crops.

i like when things get bullied

>>50829513
I really hope you like your life, Anon.

>>50829645
There was a pretty unhinged sounding dude in the previous short lived Yukkuri thread.

>>50829645
it's a big improvement from when i was the thing getting bullied for sure

>>50825600
I've heard there's some drama going on with the Kitsune Yukkuri creator trying to crowdfund for managing the use of their material. Not sure what it's like on social media but there's an anonymous board full of posts about it that I've looked through with Google Translate.

>>50831085
I wish Yukkuri didn't get over the deaths of their children so quickly.

>>50831552
fucking this

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>>50824852
I first learned of it from Pani Poni Dash.

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>>50824852
Sorry. We only know INMU and Cookie. Do you know those?

>>50828211
正直中二病がなんの関係か分からないけど信じて損はないから俺は信じてあげるよ

>>50824852
Can you post some otaku pictures that are famous in japan? Thank you.

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I actually like that Yukkuri has some successors in more ways than one, even if most of them come from gachashit. Obviously, Yukkuri is far from dead, but alot of newer Japanese meme trends nowadays are clearly inspired by Yukkuri in some form, whether the people creating it realize it or not.
Zundamon is the official "successor" to Yukkuri in some ways. Both are used as voiceboxes for Japanese creators that don't like using their own voice for online videos (aka most of them). It's also the only one I know that's actually from Japan. But I dislike that it's not as la creatura as the others, Zundamon's modern form is way too humanoid. I'm pretty sure that people make Zundamon abuse shit too.
The other two, Doro from Nikke and the most recent and trending Speaki from Trickcal are more entertaining to me.
Doro has the most similar origin to Yukkuri. Both are fanart that come from some random forum (Doro is from arca.live users) from an unknown user that accidentally became a big thing, although Yukkuri were a lot more of an accident. It's also the closest to Yukkuri in design.
Speaki is a just the cropped version of a character kneeling but Trickcal's artstyle just easily makes it look like some kind of four legged creature. People also depict it like some kind of Pokemon that can only repeat certain words.
Yukkuri, Doro, and Speaki are basically deformed versions of existing characters that has somehow became its own race and entity. I also like how (generally) each retard race has its own depicted personality. Yukkuri are usually depicted as meek, pet-like, and emotional creatures that can somewhat speak (although I know each version of Yukkuri has its fandom personality). Doro are silent yet chaos incarnate enigmas that just do whatever they want (and can also turn people into Doros). Speaki are mostly just naive crybabies that wants to be happy and to protect their Speaki family.

>>50833394
日本語で…感謝
因みにまぁ普通の日本人がここに来るなんてなかなかないだろうからな…私ほかの日本人と違って……普通の人と思われたくないとこもあるし…何より中二病っぽい言葉が好きだからね

>>50833572
それはいいからINMUとクッキーのご感想をどうぞ
ゆっくりは大抵の人分からんけどそれなら海外ニキみんな知ってるゾ

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>>50833421
The image description is about slow k. This person originally made Japanese "Yukkuri" skits, but nowadays there are YouTubers who mostly make what's called "Yukkuri commentary" (mainly Minecraft).

…(これインムって指摘したらインム厨ってバレるな)
てかおまえ日本人？それとも普通に日本語が出来る外国人？

>>50833578

>>50833586
冗談抜きでホモガキが喜ぶコンテンツを機に日本語を勉強してきたHENTAI外国人だよ
ペラペラ日本語を話せる外国人と出会ったらみんなこんぐらいHENTAIなんだから気を付けてね…知らない間にお尻開発されちゃうかもよ

>>50833596
全員はないだろ…変態の可能性はあるが

Watching the most Japanese thread on this board with great interest.

>>50833647
このスレを立てた甲斐があったよ

>>50833448
Even the Jissouseki abuse and Yukkuri abuse got successors. Newer stuff like Zundamon Abuse, Chiikawa abuse, and Speaki abuse followed after those.

Yukkuri abuse/Zundamon abuse/Chiikawa abuse terminology counterparts
https://anond.hatelabo.jp/20240727162945

>>50834033
I don't know what any of those things are but are they genuine guro or just guro for people who don't have the stomach for guro like Yukkuri stuff is?

>>50833394
>We only know INMU and Cookie
You say that, but I hardly see them discussed here, even less often than yukkuris, which is a shame because I've been watching a lot of 淫ク otoMADs lately.

>>50833582
that's a cute (Kawaii) image.
do you like akihabara?

>>50835898Actually, I've never been to Akihabara.
I would like to go, but... I have been to a Touhou-only doujinshi convention in Kyoto before...

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What would eating koyukkuri dishes feel like?

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what's the best yukkuri vidya?

>>50834084
pretty much

>>50837416
It's almost weird to image. Flavor wise, I don't image they would taste much different from anything else that involves bean paste (though maybe sweeter due to the additional bits they have that aren't bean paste but still sugary) but sensation wise, it would probably be much different because they are moving.

>>50838293
I need to stop posting immediately after waking up. Anyways, I also imagine that they would be a little crunchy too, especially their cores.

>>50836690
>I have been to a Touhou-only doujinshi convention in Kyoto before...
what was it like?
are you from kyoto? do japanese otaku have different taste and manners depending on the prefecture they live?

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>>50824852
こちらの戦犯についてですが
見覚えはあるのでしょうか

>>50837560
Would modern gaming technology be able to produce a Yukkuri game with dynamic mutilations?

>>50839114First, regarding the question of whether I live in Kyoto and whether manners differ depending on the prefecture you live in:
I'm from Kyoto Prefecture, but I don't think manners differ that much from prefecture to prefecture.
Even if you're an otaku, no matter where you live, you're still a human being and a Japanese person, so you have to follow normal manners in public places. Rather than saying that otaku manners differ by region, it's more that there are manners in each region that aren't related to otaku (although at doujin events, regional manners aren't really applicable, and otaku culture transcends regional boundaries, so ultimately where you live doesn't matter much).
Of course, at doujin-related events, cosplay is allowed, so I think the differences are mainly in other areas.Well, I've talked a bit too much, and these are just my thoughts, so I can't say they're completely correct, but this is what I think.

>>50839114
This has turned into a long story, so let's take a break.
Regarding the question about what it was like when I went to a doujinshi convention...
I've actually been to two doujinshi conventions, but I'll talk about the first time.
I think the first time was about two years ago.
The event I went to was in Kyoto City, Kyoto Prefecture...
To be honest... I was so excited I could have been a Pichu! Of course, I have a mental disability and I'm shy, so I couldn't talk to the other otaku (staff, circle members) that much. So, while looking for something good, I listened to the interactions of other people, and I had no choice but to buy what I wanted. But even just listening to those interactions was somewhat enjoyable...
Incidentally, I said it was a Touhou-only event, but to be more precise, it was a joint event, a Touhou-only event and a Vocaloid (Voiceroid)-only event held together. So,
I was almost twice as surprised to see circles I'd heard of from the Touhou Project and Vocaloid participating. I was like, "Huh!? This circle is here too?"

Let me say it again, it was the best.

The original text was a little hard to read, so I've made some minor corrections and am posting that version.
This has turned into a long story, so let's take a break.
You asked what it was like when I went to a doujinshi convention... I've actually been to two conventions, but I'll talk about the first one. I think it was about two years ago. It was an event in Kyoto City, Kyoto Prefecture...
To be honest... I was so excited I could have been a Pichu! Of course, I have a mental disability and I'm shy, so I couldn't really talk to the other otaku (staff, circle members). While searching for something good, I listened to other people's interactions and bought what I wanted. But even just listening to those interactions was somewhat enjoyable...
Incidentally, I said it was a Touhou-only event, but to be more precise, it was a joint event, a Touhou-only event and a Vocaloid (Voiceroid)-only event. So, I was almost twice as surprised to see circles I'd heard of from the Touhou Project and Vocaloid. I was like, "Huh?! This circle is here too?!"

Let me say it again, it was the best.

>>50839348
ゆっくりかはわかりませんが、パチュリーですね
調べたところblog.livedoorのやつしか、ヒットしたのでどこからの画像かはわかりませんが

>>50839917
むしろ知らない方がいい事ですよ

>>50839930
ということは…そっち系のネタなんだな
やはり

>>50839348
Not OP, obviously, but that's clearly Taisa.

>>50839875
so otaku culture is pretty much the same through japan? nice to know.
also, kyoto is beautiful!
>>50839899
what did the convention sell and what did you buy there?
>even just listening to those interactions was somewhat enjoyable
what were they talking about?
>it was a joint event, a Touhou-only event and a Vocaloid (Voiceroid)-only event held together
that sounds fun
>>50839906
thank you!

Is the common story beat of torturing Yukkuri to make them taste sweeter based on the adrenochrome thing?

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Smooshing little Yukkuris!

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>>50824852
Didn't know about that. But we have that sort of thing in the West with the MLP brand called "Fluffy Pony Abuse" not sure if Japan or the West did it first but they seems to be very similar to one another

>>50825184
I've definitely never heard of speaki abuse. Can you post some examples beuse I searched but nothing shows up

>>50824852
is a tiktok thing? i heard something about fruits talking

>>50846801
Are those things made of flesh and blood?

>>50846801
Fluffy abuse exists because of yukkuri abuse.

>>50847921
Interesting...

>>50846847
Yeah. The lore is pretty deep

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>>50847921
If you're going down that route, yukkuri abuse exists because of Jissouseki abuse

>>50846801
Yukkuris were made way earlier than Fluffies.

>>50825184
>>50826485
>>50846801
Look up スピ虐, that's Speaki Abuse in Japanese, just like ゆ虐 is for Yukkuri Abuse. There's more スピ虐 content on Niconico that aren't also uploaded on YouTube, so there's where more can be found.

>>50845832
Sorry for the delay. Well, what I bought was Touhou tarot cards (more specifically, Hifuu tarot cards). Something like a Touhou data book.

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>>50855176
Boo, should have left them mangled but alive.

I find that a lot of the best stuff, at least as far as creativity is concerned, comes out of Chinese artists. No one does cruelty like the Chinese. I just wish all their comics weren't in Chinese because the art makes me curious as to what's going on because it looks extremely unhinged sometimes.

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Quite a few of the most popular Yukkuri Abuse videos on YouTube seem to be some of the more recent ones.

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>>50846801
>>50855570
https://youtube.com/@gayroommate2020?si=hCVzZcKEg3juM3AT

This shit is so fucked up bro