>xitter screenshot thread
sage

>>50840433
That's like saying that Anime would benefit if it was only made by westerners.
I do think that he should take a break and think where he wants to take the series.

Abysmal dogshit thread

Thank you xitter for the enlightening opinion.

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>>50840433
Xitter thread aside. It's more like the whole status quo is holding the series back. ZUN really loves his settings, and he usually likes simple characters like pic rel or fairies, which is why the fairy mangas are the best out there.

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>>50840433
Holding it back in regards to what? The gameplay? The danmaku patterns? The stage designs? Graphics? Music? Or is this just a troon storyfag gripe that Zun isn't writing some epic drama story with deep esoteric themes, and "letting his setting's and character's potential go to waste"? If it's the latter, then fuck off. Touhou doesn't need a story beyond telling the player why he should clear the game.

>>50840769
Status quo isn't holding anything back. As long as each game tells us a story with six bosses causing an incident, there doesn't need to be anything bigger. Arguments like this annoy me, because they seem to always come from secondaries and nogames people, who don't even play the games. It's like how people kept shitting on Megaman 4-7 despite not even playing them, because "the story was stupid". The manga only really exists to supplement the games and make the world more vibrant. Only FDS has been living a life of its own. And arguably Touhou has been becoming more story-heavy over the years. Just compare the amount and style of dialogue before and now.

>>50840804
I'm 100% sure the guy in the OP pic is referring to characters dying or making a yuri pairing real, maybe both at the same time.

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>>50840804
I was talking about the print works, which have gotten mid over time.
The games are usually self-contained enough to not care about their lore. I just really need more Misumaru desu.

>The manga only really exists to supplement the games and make the world more vibrant. Only FDS has been living a life of its own.
Touhou Literature has always been its own thing since Eastern and Little Nature Deity. They were more than just glorified loredumps.
Even with the actual supplemental materials like Cage in Lunatic Runagate, the games hardly acknowledged it due to its simplistic nature. It's why no one gives a shit about them unless you're either a lorefag or just someone who likes to read.

>And arguably Touhou has been becoming more story-heavy over the years. Just compare the amount and style of dialogue before and now.
Yeah, I miss when it was more fun.

>>50840804
>Touhou has been becoming more story-heavy over the years
The people who think there's any real plot and take the stories as anything more than flavor text are cancer.

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Kuso Xitter troon thread.
>>50840804
This anon nailed it.
/thread

>>50841381
>angry hakurei_reimu
Now it all make sense

>>50841019
To be fair it's not like Zun hasn't been trying to push more lore into Touhou.
The fact that he's been failing miserably at making it even somewhat decent is another thing.

But who's holding /jp/ back?

>>50841501
crossies, schizos, newfags

>>50841501
Falseflaggers and spammers

>>50841501
Yuricucks, crossies, shotacucks, idolfags, vtumors, antifutatards, reddittroons

>>50841501
Me ￣ω￣

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>>50840433
ZUN's creativity (and likely passion) for the series has been waning for a long time now. I don't think he should be ousted, but it's time for him to reconsider being a solo dev. There are legions of very talented and creative people who would sell their kidneys to work with ZUN. The creative input of these people (who are first and foremost fans) would be nothing but a boon to both Touhou and ZUN himself.

As a first step, we need to make Satorin the main character of CDS again!

ZUN needs to add male human x female yokai couple to his universe

>>50841826
I've thought for years that ZUN should make azmaya co-pilot.

Don't let this shitty bait thread distract you from the fact that Watatsuki no Yorihime is married to her own nephew

>>50841881
>azmaya
I hope you're joking.

>>50840804 you guys have no theory of mind lol. this argument comes mainly as a combination of factors, the narrative aspect is second to things like reusing assets, using AI generated assets, removing features (which is atrocious in 19 but has been a thing since 8), the licensing of mcdonals ads and LW, i would claim that the refusal to license an anime is cognitive dissonance regarding the last part, but he did license the ufotable one and because it was only shown on theaters its now lost media. he gets a lot of merit for his lax copyright too, but he was kinda forced into those conditions since early touhou did use copyrighted material which is probably why he barely ever acknowledges pc98

this is all without even mentioning more subjective reasons, such has having a massive cast yet barely using most of the characters, retconning shit, forgetting shit, having inconsistent characterizations between the works and just his general apathy towards the lore...

you might not agree with the sentiment itself and it may come off as ungrateful, but there are legitimate reasons to criticise him and deflecting those as "must be nogames" or "le yuritards" is just a cope

What about ZUN's daughter? Would you Anons accept if she were to succeed ZUN as Touhou creator, or not?

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>>50842083
>but he was kinda forced into those conditions since early touhou did use copyrighted material which is probably why he barely ever acknowledges pc98
I hate most of ZUN's decisions as much as you. But this sounds as retarded as that one time when fans gaslight themselves that he wouldn't use Shinki because he doesn't own the character.
No one on this godforsaken planet gives a flying fuck about copyright outside of hack teenage artists on Twitter and some corporations. And most of the alleged "stolen" assets are nothingburgers too. The only real deal was pic rel, where he thought it was a good idea to trace from based Rance; otherwise they're transformative enough to be different on their own.

The whole reason why he hardly acknowledges pc-98 is because they're outdated in his eyes. He loves the reboot even more. Spoilers: It's not EoSD.

>>50841826
i understand where you're coming from, but he would definitely appoint beatmario as his second in command and while i like the guy i really do not want that to happen.

>>50842227
But anon, imagine the sweet juicy /jp/ discussion that would come out of it.

>>50841826
What a sexy man-eating Yokai.

>>50842083
You're the faggot who's been bitching on xitter about the lack of a score system in muh phantasmagoria game like its an actual detriment for the game despite the fact it has double the ammount of content

Actual retarded take. Seriously, kill yourself, you absolute fuckwad.

>>50840433
shitty xitter thread of a seething pc-98 cuck
cool

>>50842227
How old even is beatMario?

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>>50840804
Guy in the screencap here, I probably should've worded it better but this was a throwaway post I thought wouldn't get any attention so I didn't bother. What I meant was I felt that the quality of Zun's offerings have declined considerably over the past decade to the point where I feel he will never produce anything that stands shoulder to shoulder with his earlier works, and anything he puts out nowadays reeks of apathy, from gameplay to music to his attempts at worldbuilding. I'm in agreement that the games don't need any sort of epic storyline beyond an excuse to get the player through six levels, but this doesn't apply to story-driven mangas like FDS. Mega Man 4 and 7 are two of the best games in the classic series by the way.

>>50841845
This but with marriage and pregnancy and I would instantly forgive him

aggressive2hu and faggots like him are genuinely insufferable, yes I disagree with some of his decisions and I think he should focus on his improvement and doing his best but their complaints mostly consist of what they want to see personally (i.e muh hedcanin, peesee 98, zun ban yuri and noofags it makes no leak) instead of things that would genuinely improve him, the community and the games.

Whenever they don't get their way they cry about him being LE CORPORATE JOO SHILL and when they do they find something else to bitch about they are the Touhou version of shartyfags

>>50842039
NTA but Azuma Aya at least was able to make a lot of cozy manga side stories and her gags were always very cute

>>50842567
Are these "aggressive2hu and faggots like him" in the room with us right now?

>>50842567
>zun ban yuri
nothing wrong with this, yuritroons are part of the problem if you are not blind

Why are you on Twitter? That site is poison to the soul, find something better to do

>>50840433
I would rather ZUN continue spinning his wheels until the sun dies then see where most popular picks would take it.

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>>50842227
I really hope that fag BeatMario doesn't get a say in anything.
You can defend him claiking he is a "true otaku", unhinged and perverted, but most of falling in this category are the self-referential, trope galore retards who "can't see the forest for the trees".
Even if ZUN gives a time of his life to his friend, I believe he would rather have a Miyazaki type as a " sucessor", someone who really cares about themes and inspiration sources.

>pc98tranny
Whatever this opinion is it'll be pretentious slop not worth giving the light of day

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>>50842567
>aggressive2hu

>>50843670
Do you think his schizophrenia is a bit for attention or is he genuinely a deranged retard

Also hes a lolitranny btw

>>50843689
>lolitranny
What is this even supposed to mean? Why are Anonymous discussing some Twitter random as if that random was supposed to be well-known?

>>50842363
NTA but
>one anon I don't like cuz he said something I don't like therefore he's muh boogeyman
kek

>>50843689
>loli is bad guise :(
go back

>>50842614
Yes, and it's this guy >>50843662

>>50842110
He's said he wants to put it all into public domain when he dies/retires, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of his kids end up taking over and commercializing it more than ZUN ever did.

>>50840433
ZUN either needs to take a break or retire. Its been nothing but a downward slope for nearly a decade

>>50843840
If Touhou isn't already public domain enough to the point where you can make money out of it.

>>50840433
I... agree that ZUN is very annoying and not really that great of a developer, but the issue is that due to nature of doujin works you cannot remove him. Removing ZUN would mean removing Touhou, you're removing a fan from a fan work and that's super retarded.
Obviously, there's also a point to be made that Touhou Project's status of doujin work is really just an illusion nowadays because there's like half a dozen of various semi-commercial products related to it, but that's a different issue.

>>50841607
Damn you!

>>50842597
I agree that WaHH is one of the better printworks but giving Aya authority over Touhou would be a horrible idea.

>>50842083
>having a massive cast yet barely using most of the characters
how do you accomplish that while still keeping to the shmup genre and maintaining the 5-6 newhu output
CDS is the muh nostalgia title since it's made exactly to include every character from every game since 6, and it's getting lambasted for being all over the place

>>50843870
permissions can be rescinded, yes it would burn all bridges possible but heirs often are retarded

>>50844083
Reasons to give Aya authority over Touhou:
1: she is cute
2: she is very good at her job
3: she is an unbiased and impartial referee
4: tengu are old sworn friends of humanity

>>50844117
I wish ZUN would use BAiJR format more often. I would trade monthly whaletits for bi-yearly book with articles that are equivalent to chapters synopsis and post-article talks as a way to show some personality from involved people. Maybe it would even force ZUN to vary cast more often.

>>50844117
Wait a minute... no one said anything about tengu

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>>50844139
あや, 文, it's all about literature, isn't it? And when we talk about literature, it's only natural to think of the very best.

>>50844150
OI THE BLOODY TENGU ARE BEHIND THESE POSTS!

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>>50844016
>you're removing a fan from a fan work and that's super retarded
If Touhou really is a derivative work. It's a derivative of what exactly? You can make the argument that it's based of Pocky & Rocky (which it is). But it's more in the territory of "inspired by" than sharing the same universe as each other. Even since day 1 is different enough to be it's own thing.

>>50844116
You can do it for free as long as it's staying under the radar. I.E staying indie.

>>50844275
>If Touhou really is a derivative work. It's a derivative of what exactly
NTA but It's that kind of thing that depends on where you draw the line between derivative and inspired.
Personally I don't think it's fair to call Touhou truly derivative even though it does border on that line especially in the older games (PC98-EOSD) often taking things from other franchises pretty shamelessly.

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>>50844275
>If Touhou really is a derivative work. It's a derivative of what exactly?
Kokugaku scholarship.

>>50841578
Yeah that makes sen-
>antifutatards
Hey wait a second...

Touhou without ZUN would be too safe and predictable. I appreciate his irreverence towards his own creation.

>>50849814
Too many anons complain about Ran's mighty knot without knowing that a kitsune's best way to show love to her husband is knotting his ass all night.

>>50844275
2hu is just Shinto fanfiction, it goes so far beyond being rooted in shinto. Half the final bosses are just gods turned into women. Maintaining a status quo (stagnation of the franchise) for a balanced world is peak shinto.

>>50849846
For all the talk of her knot there seems to be almost no visual evidence of it. Almost as if it's fictitious.

>>50840433
stop pumping out new hu and start developing old ones. i was promised Yuyuko's backstory thousand of years ago

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>>50841019
this. picrel is a yt comment from a video of alice's MS theme. you see a lot of comments like this for other themes

>>50849973
>japanese game with shrine maidens on it has shinto influence

also
>Maintaining a status quo (stagnation of the franchise) for a balanced world is peak shinto.
You don't even know what Shinto actually is.

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>>50840804
>>50850966
>>50849973
>>50840433
I only delve into touhou last year but isn't the whole point of the games to be a place where ZUN can release his music? Everything else such as a story, writing, lore is secondary no?

>>50851415
No, absolutely not

>>50851415
>Everything else
Well, the spellcards, as in what you beat in the games, matter too.

>>50849836
You are talking to zoomer and gen alpha normiebots whose sole experience with media are reboots, remakes and sequels with director changes, don't waste your wisdom here

>>50851415
>story, writing, lore is secondary no?
Pretty much.

>>50843689
Wait is the lolitranny shit true? All I know is he isn’t really well adjusted at all.

>>50842439
Nigga tries to explain himself after making an objectively vitriolic and vindictive statement. It’s evident you and your friends go beyond simply disliking his current work, you hate him and those around him personally. By your xeets you made before this, you’re obviously a man who has always been this way and for once one of your many inflammatory tweets got a small bit of attention and were publicly humiliated for it. You’re less like smug critics or rebels against a “corrupt greedy hack” and more like the Latinx who killed himself because Bjork fucked some other guy.

>>50842110
Generally speaking, kids of creative guys have been shit at husbanding their parents' works. Just look at Brian Herbert, Rhianna Pratchett or Todd McCaffrey.

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>>50856119
>you guise just hate it for no reason ur a hater and a spic!!!!
How's your estrogen, troon?

>>50856247
>>50856119
You are exactly what's wrong with the fanbase.

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>>50856292
Are you ok?

>>50856458
?

>>50843689
Well I don’t know since his bio literally say “Touhou unenthusiast”, it gotta be a bit, or a rather edgy individual