because I'm doing that with Chinese so I can move to Taiwan instead

I'm lazy, even typing this post required a great effort on my part

>>50976900
That's disgusting
>>50976901
You're so lazy that you don't even want a better life?

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>>50976903
I'm too lazy to think about the future. I'm a silly rock who just enjoys the present

>>50976915
you'll regret having wasted your life

>>50976900
I though it was the Republic of China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGy9uomagO4

>>50976895
>You CAN move to Japan
>You CAN assimilate and follow Japanese cultural and societal norms
>You CAN abandon your d culture and language
>You CAN become a Japanese citizen
>You CAN renounce your old citizenship
Why the fuck would I want to do that?
I like my country.
Living in Japan sucks

kuso thread

>>50977202
Your country is a fucked up shithole and Japan is literally the best place on earth

>>50977360
Stop projecting rajesh

>>50977389
I'm not projecting anything, I live in Japan.

this isn't the japan board

>>50976895
Im learning the language rn but i dont think the rest is feasible for me. I work warehouse/delivery jobs so i dont think there’s a path for me to move there. Also almost 30 so moving there is just gonna get harder as time goes on. If you are young though for sure you can. The language however can be done by anyone and you have no excuse not to.

>>50977501
And?
You're projecting that you consider your country a "a fucked up shithole", it's not my problem that you're third worlder.
You couldn't pay me to move to Japan

>>50977592
You and I are from the same country, retard.

>>50976895
I knew the first two already but everything after that sounds terrible.

>>50976895
muri desu
eyes too roundo

>>50978124
You can blend in if you squint hard enough

>>50978128
>kanojo found the eye tape
owari da

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Learning japanese is painful. I'm in my 30's, I put all my skill points in programming and music production, learning a new language that uses weird symbols is PAINful.

>>50978154
Forgot: nyo - sorry

I cant find the Genki books spanish edition online

>do all that
>get deported anyway 20 years later
>literally pay into social security you can never access
no thanks
If Japan wants real quality immigrants from the west and not just JET weebs they will have to fix their shit. Either let people get PR and access to welfare or don't tax them for it. No one worth a damn will let a foreign country they move to slash their earnings while cutting them out like that.
Their current system is good at attracting desperate people from poorer parts of Asia tho, I guess.

>>50976900
I really want to migrate to Shanghai, it's such a cool city with so much history.

>>50979068
Unironically, kill yourself

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>>50978154
>weird symbols
I promise you, kanji makes so much fucking sense it's insane.
My go-to example is this:
In English, you have "dog" and "puppy" with zero correlation between those words.
In Japanese 犬 means dog and　子　means child. So guess what 子犬　means.
The grammar is tough, memorizing all the different readings of kanji is tough, but the kanji itself is so fucking intuitive that it makes me realize how fucking retarded English is.

>>50980824
But that puppy dog thing is just one cherry-picked example of how kanjis combine nicely. Is it really like that, is it really that nice or is it a clusterfuck of nonsensical shit and you just cherry-picked the easiest one?

>>50980831
He just picked one of the example where kanji does accidentally make sense.
Kanji in lot of cases doesn't really make much sense no matter how you look at it. In some cases they used to, but as the writing evolved it lost that (魚 is pretty interesting example of that considering that literally used to be a drawn fish but it doesn't look like that nowadays).

Though kanji combinations usually do make at least some sense, even if for some you have to understand the culture, one example of that comes to mind would be 馬鹿(baka) lit. horse-deer, that comes from a Chinese phrase "to call a deer a horse"

>>50980905
I see, that's what I suspected. But why? I just ask why did it evolve into something that's less intuitive? Is it partially because the spoken language somehow evolved on its own and the written language followed those changes? I have no idea, I'm just wondering out loud.

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I live in Denmark. Why would I leave? Cream of the crop euro life.

>>50976895
I'm poor and no self respecting country lets run of the mill poorfags in.

>>50980824
I find the grammar isn't too bad vs the kanji hurdle. Most of it is just every word functioning as a modifier for the one next to it, and they basically just speak like Yoda if you were trying to find an English allegory.

>>50980918
Mostly due to writing speed and comfort, also because the writing became more standardized over time.

>>50980918
More or less. It's just archaic nuances that persisted in some form as they got trimmed down over time as they morphed into the modern tongue. A lot of the weird things with Japanese that seem to trip people up can be summarized by "it used to be this way, now it's not, but a lot of archaic remnants show up in the modern tongue." Which can be said about pretty much any language with a sizeable speaking/writing population.

>>50976895
What if I don't want a 3DPD

>>50979813
He is right though. The current system in Japan actively discourages people who are willing to settle in and integrate into their society and promotes pajeets who will just go there to do cheap labor and fuck off with that all that money to their mudshed as soon as their visa expires.

>>50976895
I'm fine with doing the first two, but I like my home and all the friends I have here :)

>friends
Go back

>>50981816
Next you'll tell me you have a girlfriend.

>>50976895
I just want to read manga though. Still slow but making more progress than I ever did before by using the human Japanese apps

>>50981948
>Still slow but making more progress than I ever did before by using the human Japanese apps

What are you using now? Alien Japanese apps?

>>50981959
Still on the second human Japanese app because I am slow

>>50980831
It's a mixed bag. Sometimes the individual kanji that make up a word make perfect sense like that Anon's example. Sometimes they make zero fucking sense, other times they kinda make sense but it's more of a hindsight thing and not something that will 100% tell you the meaning of the word when you first see it. From my experience it's like 30% shit that makes a lot of sense, 20% nonsense, 50% shit that kinda makes sense

>>50976895
I can't their garbage management system and their hidden rules. It drives me insane.

I spent a decade on therapy to heal the result of living in a toxic environment.
From my perspective their collective society goes against my values as an individualist who desires freedom.
What do I do?

>>50976895
I am studying to work on the medical field i dont think that this kind of job is the one where you can simply move on to another country and get a job there.

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>>50980831

>>50979068
This isn't even mentioning the shit work culture or JPY collapsing. When USD:JPY hits 200:1, even Prashant will make more than the average Japenis wagie. The politicians are burning the entire treasury to backstop it each time it pushes 160:1, yet do absolutely nothing to address the fundamental issue.

>>50980824
Kanji are just Chinese symbols thrown over a completely unrelated language. You could put it over English and get the same, if not better results. You should be learning Chinese not Japanese if you want intuitive symbols.

>>50982255
>medical field i dont think that this kind of job is the one where you can simply move on to another country and get a job there.
It is if you move to America.

people who talk about learning japanese are so insufferable that it pushes me away from ever wanting to

>>50976895
Japanese CAN'T speak English though

>>50978154
Kanji makes a million times more sense than trying to write code.

>>50984271
I've wasted at least 10 000 hours designing and writing code, so it makes sense to me.

I've been aimlessly learning Japanese since last year. Learned Hirana, Katakana and so far 115 Kanji characters. Not sure what to do next besides learning more Kanji.

>>50987601
Why are you learning kanji instead of just learning words and grammar?

>>50987601
You should be learning grammar and reading asap. And like the other anon said, learn words. Kanji in isolation will only help you so much.

I'll learn Japanese to talk to people online I guess and for hobbyist reasons, but living there seems hellish socially. Also, money. Unless you live in some thirdie country, I don't understand the appeal of living in Japan. Visiting is another thing.

>>50976895
I don't need to do any of that to enjoy chirumiru Cirno.

>>50976895
Already did the first two and now working on everything up to
>You CAN get a good job with good work/life balance and little to no overtime even in Tokyo
Not so easy when you're a clueless poor retard third worlder who wasted half a decade of his life though.

>>50976895
OHAIOU GOZAIMASU DEGOZARU

I just saw an advertisement for /jp/ saying I shouldn't come here

is it because Japan is so popular and the veteran expat-sans of /jp/ don't want to see "more frickin white people"?

should I still learn Nipponese to order some Makudonaldso manko? (big mac)

I feel like an expert on Japan because I've been watching Abroad in Japan since he did his famous "teaching Japanese to swear in Eigo" video!

>>51002765
yes!

>>50987825
NTA but I personally started with grinding common kanji, and found that helpful down the road.
When I saw a new word, I usually recognized the kanji, which gave me an idea of likely readings, made it easier to look up in a dictionary, and the meanings of the individual kanji often give hints to the meaning of the word.
How does studying words first, when the kanji are completely unrecognizable, even work? I feel like that's kinda the equivalent of a child being taught to read words without learning the actual alphabet first.

>>50977360
Japan is nice because it's 99% Ethnic Japanese
Moving there is a wedge to excuse 50 million Indians flooding in after me
No, I have a soul. I wont do that to the Japanese.
Enjoy Japan through regular tourism, not immigration

>>50976895
Japan working environment isn't that great, also why can't we just love our birthplace?

>>50976895
びっくりマーク. They call "!" びっくりマーク. Funny.

You WILL NEVEE learn Japanese
You WILL NEVER become fluent
You CAN NEVER move to Japan
You WILL NEVER assimilate and follow Japanese cultural and societal norms
You WILL NEVER abandon your faggot culture and language
You WILL NEVER become a Japoneze citizen
You WILL BE stuck your old shithole
You WILL NEVER get a good job with good work/life balance and little to no overtime even in Tokyo
You WILL marry a little girl and get arrested
You WILL NEVER EVER EVER have children
Stop being DELUSIONAL and take your MEDS

>>51009652
YES I CAN!!! びっくりマークs

>>50976895
Because I'm broke and making money here is fucking impossible