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How come producers for DMM games are gigantic cuckolds trying to force their fetish on everyone or gigantic kikes that think their game will die if they give out more than a 10-roll per month?
Where's the normal people?
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>>50995663
>How come producers for DMM games are gigantic cuckolds trying to force their fetish on everyone
makes sense to try to capture the market for a fetish
>gigantic kikes that think their game will die if they give out more than a 10-roll per month?
this is just japan being retarded
>Where's the normal people?
tinkle devs
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>>50995663
the main plan for gacha has always been a high turn around, normies or DMM. it's better to kill a game after 2 year, make a remake/new one and recoup the cost in a week. rinse and repeat
plus AI slop game exists now
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>>50995947
>is somebody forcing you to play that game at a gunpoint or something
If they include it in kumafes next year then a lot of people will actually since the producer wants to spread the wonders of cuckoldry
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>>50995684
was this said in an interview somewhere or just going off that assumption a few threads ago that an anon said he looked like one? putting that aside, there are no other cuck games on dmm as far as I'm aware. there are a metric ton of NTR voice works, and I've seen plenty of games on dlsite centered around this same concept where you level your whores up and run a brothel. maybe those markets won't transfer at all, but it seems like a decent gamble to take.
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>>50996828
He might have said it? There were a few interviews about cuck abyss being the producer's passion project and the game he really wanted to make when the entire game is just whoring out your girls to the entire city.
>there are no other cuck games on dmm as far as I'm aware.
Isn't there Taimanin? Taimanin has always been the one that takes all those types and there's even been a "NTR Login bonus" meme flying around for the past few years
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>>50996854
haven't played taimanin, but another anon here said it shifted to vanilla. I've seen the galleries on ex before and it seemed like it was almost entirely tentacle rape. even if it was NTR tentacle rape, there's a pretty big difference between that and regular NTR.
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>>50997718
Tregianna or Shizuha for part 2? What does the crowd say?
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>>50996828
>>50996854
nta, never really visit /jp/, figured i'd just comment on this while i'm lurking.
he's openly said it in an interview, this is basically the one thing he's actually interested in and he seems to have created the other games more or less so he could eventually fund and make something like this because he's not actually interested in them but knows a company would never get off the ground if he started with this first.
he also said that the kind of game he "actually" wants to make is something he knows full well would never be successful/profitable and barely get any players; the current project is his "compromise" to tone it down enough. he also knows it heavily alienates the playerbase and fans of kuma at large and goes against what they advertised themselves as ("pure love games", apparently), which is specifically the reason they created the black label in order to separate them and try and prevent anything from it from essentially tainting the rest of the brand (jury's still out on if that works).
they also already announced they will have zero crossover or collaboration or anything like that at all for kuma and k.black and they're not gonna turn the girls that players of kuma games like into prostitutes or something, they're completely separated.
and that's probably the best thing they could've done, because that's really all i (and many others) wanted.
i will look down upon the game of course, but i'm not going to actually get angry about it or anything unless it starts to interfere with something i personally like, such as trying to force a specific fetish into something i like that does not have it.
if they aren't doing that then i can ignore it as it won't interfere with what i enjoy, and the only problem left is the redirection of funds screwing with their other games, but that's hardly a unique situation.
in any case, i don't think i can ever get more disappointed than i am with r'lyeh.and it's less he's a massive cuck and more that he seems to be a massive fan of literal torture/misery porn and that's why he had to "tone it down". what hasep actually wants would almost certainly be horribly depressing for most people to see.
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>>50998063
>and it's less he's a massive cuck and more that he seems to be a massive fan of literal torture/misery porn
Dude I am so fucking glad that the Chinese screamed, yelled and shat themselves until the devs stopped making shitty misery porn like holy fuck I am so tired of picking up a game and the story is the same "Everyone you know suffers horribly and the game is desperately trying to make you sad every two lines".
Seems like CuckP didn't get the memo tho and is still desperately trying to find a way to find his awful fetishes on people. Honestly sounds like a recipe for disaster to put a guy like that in charge of a bunch of pure love games, like a bomb waiting to go off. Especially now that Cuck Abyss exists and threatens to insert itself into kumafes or collab with the existing games.
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>>50998124
Unfortunately, I believe Dot Abyss will get a top start. Simply because aside of the shitty gameplay, K Black worked a lot on the presentation. Making it look better than a lot of recent releases (which most are AI)
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>>50998155
Techcronoss looks great too like they worked a ton on the presentation.
It looks great, the girls are great, the animations are great and the H-scenes are good too.
Unfortunately, "Looks good" is the best you can say about the game because the insides are rotten and feel like milk that has been out for months. And if the producer goes full steam with his cuck agenda of desperately trying to force shit even he knows is a bad idea then it's going to end badly for everyone.
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>>50998124
anon i don't think you understand what i'm saying, i'm meaning this very literally.
i'm not talking about 'the story is a tragedy and everything is sad and designed to make you cry because real art is dark and mature'.
i'm talking about forced prostitution, beating, degrading, whipping, abject suffering, sex slavery, trafficking, blood and wounds, damaged organs, endless pain just to make ends meet because you were SOL and now you're forced to sell your soul and your body; i remember there was this very famous one shot manga years back that made the rounds for being horrendously depressing because it was about a girl who was forced to become a prostitute and lives a sad and miserable life until she hits the point where she can't recognize herself anymore and commits suicide to put an end to her misery.
that's what gets hase-p off.
that's literally his fetish.
that's why he said that he knows no one would ever play a game like that, seriously he's a fucking basketcase.
"abyss" is his "compromise" because he's toning it down so the whole thing looks light and wholesome despite all the girls being forced to become powerless helpless prostitutes for mandatory brothel wagie hours with a justification as to why it's mandatory and they can't do shit despite apparently going off to kill monsters in some crappy auto battler. there is definitely cuckshit in there yes but it's secondary and just a byproduct of what he actually wanted.
>threatens to insert itself into kumafes or collab with the existing games
they have gone out of the way to say this is not happening, several times, with increasing levels of clarity and "please do not worry the girls you like are not being touched by this" every time. They know full well that they're gonna fuck themselves over if the cross that line.
>put a guy like that in charge
i literally started that brick text by saying that he deliberately made games he knew would be safe and appealing to people even though he didn't care about them because he knew it would be a good reliable way to build up funds until he thought he had enough to make what he actually wanted.
he is in charge; i think you forget that.
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>>50998155
i'm unsure how it will play out; i don't think it will have as laughably humiliating a launch as cthulhu did at least. and given how much garbage slop gets churned out these days, well, yeah their competition isn't exactly good either.
as long as it does not encroach upon the enjoyment of the games i like, i am content to just ignore it, beyond my annoyance at how the funds being used this way has impacted the games i actually do like (and how bizarre the guy himself turned out to be, but that's more just discomforting i guess).
>>50998178
accurate.
let's be honest here obsessing over this game is not worth your time nor effort, anon, it's not like you or i or anyone here is gonna impact it anyway.
but they've constantly stated they will absolutely never have it touch anything else and they will keep it completely contained in it's own containment zone, even hase-p said in one of those interviews that he was fully aware trying to cross the beams would not go well and that's why he made an entirely new label in the first place. he 'hoped' some people would follow over, sure, but he knew this would not be something kuma's audience would want and that's why it's "kuma black" now.
like if next year you do have to play it for rewards in the other games then whatever complain about that; but as of right now they are telling you that no, you do not have to play it, you do not have to engage with it, it will not be forced on you and they're not gonna force any of the other kuma game girls to go to the brothel.
that's literally all I wanted and all many others wanted and that's what they're saying we have.
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>>50998172
>i'm talking about forced prostitution, beating, degrading, whipping, abject suffering, sex slavery, trafficking, blood and wounds, damaged organs, endless pain just to make ends meet because you were SOL and now you're forced to sell your soul and your body; i remember there was this very famous one shot manga years back that made the rounds for being horrendously depressing because it was about a girl who was forced to become a prostitute and lives a sad and miserable life until she hits the point where she can't recognize herself anymore and commits suicide to put an end to her misery.
I have no idea how people can get off to that and honestly don't want to know because anyone that finds arousal in that must have lost all humanity and be all sorts of fucked up.
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>>50998186
do you really trust a guy like that to not use his existing games to shill the cuckfest he actually wanted to make though?
guy sounds like a legit villain from those descriptions but we'll see if he can resist the temptation of using the other kuma games to hype up the one he's been building up to all these years
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>>50998188
that's honestly the part that got to me the most more than anything surrounding kuma black or dot abyss itself. he skirts around saying it outright, as he's self aware enough to know it's a terrible idea to say that, but that's clearly what he talks about when he discusses how he's into really dark/sick/twisted stuff that you probably wouldn't like or want to know about and dot abyss is specifically his toned down version of the thing he actually wanted to make in order to get as close as possible without burning his company and reputation down in the process.
>>50998194
I'm 99% convinced that a good part of the reason for his restrained is both his self-awareness that he is completely fucked in the head and the numerous suits surrounding him who were probably screaming at him that he is a retard and desperately trying to reel him back him or find a way to not have kuma implode from this.
the suits might actually be the saving players in this case. a lot of people get livid when executives meddle with creators and their creations but it's specifically because of situations like this that it happens. he's the one in charge of the games, but he still does need to work with people like investors and executives.
>guy sounds like a legit villain
well my government turned out to be even worse (at least he knows he's fucked and keeps it to fiction and didn't actually kill someone) and people would rather choose not to acknowledge it than do anything about it because of how fucked up it is.
but, well, we don't need to get into that.
also kumafes 2 was the "shilling" using the kuma games. from what's been said so far the most they are considering is adding cosmetics and costumes that are just references to other kuma games, but nothing involving the characters themselves, so just simple cosplay outfits, but they will absolutely not have any of the actual proper kuma girls showing up, and i don't really think cosplay outfits are something to get all worked up about i guess.
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>>50998240
it's ok anon. just saw the discussion over kuma/kuma black and figured i ought to clarify it. didn't mean to end up making, uh, four bricks, just kinda turned out that way i guess.
i'm pretty calm though.
>>50998246
it only works if you believe.
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>>50998255
i mean i agree with you but in their defense now that i'm looking at this thread there is noticeable point where it's almost entirely one or two sentence posts right before this and that's honestly kind of funny now that i've realized it.
i'm also just meticulous though. i get the whole thing with abyss is a mess but i felt i should at least clarify the part about the interview since it seemed fairly important to some, and even if someone is worried that kuma might go back on their word as it's been given so far, the constant reaffirmation of it plus the suits being acknowledged means i think there's reason enough to believe he'll be restrained and kuma will keep it unless time proves otherwise. and if the game is in a state where it can be ignored and won't impact a game you like then that's really all you can ask for. this might be one of the few times i am actually grateful for suits interfering with something lmao.
>>50998265
it's ok anon. it's a tired we all know well.
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>>50998172
>i'm talking about forced prostitution, beating, degrading, whipping, abject suffering, sex slavery, trafficking, blood and wounds, damaged organs, endless pain just to make ends meet because you were SOL and now you're forced to sell your soul and your body;
https://x.com/Reckles503/status/1696535684679606464
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It's a shame that if you like a girl from dot abyss, you know they'll do her dirty. So far, it doesn't look that bad (Taimanin and Escalation Heroines seem worse in comparison) but I don't know what to expect with what has been said about the producer.
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>>50999039
https://kumasanfes.com/kmsncp05/
Why did I see this coming from like a mile away? Wonder who's going to be the unlucky ones to be sold to the brothel to satisfy the producer's twisted fetishes
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>>50999039
>'it will be cosmetics only, there will be zero interaction otherwise'
>coincidentally an update
>check inside
>cosmetics only
i swear to god some of you idiots have zero reading comprehension
>>50998284
all i've done was explain a situtation and say it's not as bad as someone's making it out to be. i see nothing wrong with this.
i'm not some kind of 'samefag' either, but thanks for showing me i'm living rent free in your head i guess. i never even brought up mmtd, so how would you know unless you're in that 'dead thread' yourself?although this would explain to me why there seems to be someone constantly trying to rage bait the okyuufag, if you hold me in contempt and also think we're the same person for some reason.
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>>50999296
i went through and translated the page; it's exactly what they said it would be weeks ago, which is just promotional bonus skins. instead of asking you to play abyss for bonuses in one of the other five games, they're saying if you play (or start playing) any of those five games, you will get bonuses in abyss. if you play, say, tsk for example, you'll get a weapon for playing tsk for two days during the period.
so the whole thing can be easily summarized as
>wow, it's fucking nothing!
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>>50999819
if you log into one/any of those five games then yes there's a promotional log-in thing but it's irrespective of any involvement with abyss.
so functionally if you do not intend to ever touch abyss (like myself) then you'll just be getting free stuff.
>>50999831
hey now. the tdf was kino. they actually had a very nicely done series of events for the aigis/oshiro/mmtd group, which started for mmtd very shortly after it launched as it's fourth event, so that's not a recent thing for it at all.
it's only recently that it became stuck in collab/festival hell with rapid fire things like some game i've never heard of and then kumafes 2 and then the tdf for oshiro's anniversary getting food poisoning from them forcing fucking r'lyeh into it due to that game being dead on arrival and then kumafes 2.2 and then doing mmtd's own anniversary.
i'm more worried that the increasing level of bugs and powercreep escalation is eating at it's lifespan and will get it shuttered earlier than it deserves though. i do honestly like the game and feel it could be in a better place than it currently is, and the main issue i took with abyss was just the redirection of funds and staff clearly impacting it and likely the other four games. actually good monster girl content is just so hard to find these days, and the game's fairly fun itself too.
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>>50999921
Games like FKG and Aigis have had insane amounts of powercreep escalation so if there's people to play it then it'll survive. But yeah, it does feel pretty shitty seeing how some companies would rather throw resources to a new project instead of making their existing games better.
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>>50999933
don't get me started on aigis; just makes me sad. and oshiro might honestly be worse. i'm glad to see that someone understands how i feel at least. even if it survives, it's still just a shame, knowing it could be better and definitely deserves better.
mmtd is thankfully not that far yet, but that's because unlike the other two they've avoided the trap of trying to balance everything around the powercreep, because trying to do that only makes a situation like this even worse.
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>>51000962
Don't you think they're planning to? It's only been like a month or so since it was announced and it's not even out yet.
It does seem a little overblown though. At least for the anon who wascuck broken.
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They need to release 4 more games within a year to fulfill HaseP's ultimate fat bastard dream.
They released Twinkle Star Knights and Girls Creation within months of each other so they can definitely meet this goal. Probably.
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>>51000986
the funniest thing i saw in the comments of the announcement posts were a small minority of japanese fans screaming that everyone who didn't like the game or the idea of a girl they liked being sent into it were "a bunch of fucking unicorns" and innocent snowflake puritans who ruined everything because they (fans of pure love games) didn't ackshually love kuma games (marketed as pure love games) as much as they did.
and then it just devolved into incoherent ranting about unicorns and i can't help but find the comments funny.
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>>51001022
Yeah the entire thing is utterly retarded.
I keep reading comments and posts about how anyone against it is bored idiots, unicorns or evil vanillafags because if you don't want to see your girl working the brothel and being abused by every man in town to make ends meet then you don't truly love her.
If this was a CN/KR game then HaseP would already be doing a dogeza apology stream while kissing the floor.
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>>51001268
https://x.com/Muvluv_GG/status/2060300992147812677
I think they recast all of them for the collab.
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>>51005446
astaroth is not close to the same league as old scratch himself, but beelzebub is and at one time was believed to be (or used as) another name for the devil similar to how some have meshed satan and lucifer together. in terms of seven deadly sins he's usually portrayed as the embodiment of gluttony. so if he (or she) was being put as a big deal that would be logical.
i don't know what game you're talking about though. but presumably there's probably a satan in there or something.
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>>51005518
thanks for this. the game is legend clover.
>>51005639
I don't think they are permas, but I haven't paid that much attention to banners to know for sure. The only themed alts that I can think of that were permanent were all from when we were stuck in limbo and traveling through the different possibility worlds (future takeru/gilles, etc)
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>that subtle bounce on Sachi's EX animation
wew lad.
>>51012483
Yeah I'd really love some gems, rolled almost all of the banners since Rio. Wonder how long the 50 gem thing is going away, it's kind of annoying but I can't complain about free gems.
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Don't forget to double check your sister tower to make sure it's going. Race boss too..
>>51015063
Idk I think she's distinct enough. Her nova is very frilly and dense, like typical goth loli style. This one is pinkish and she's got a good amount of skin showing, not to mention significantly less frills.
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>>51005892
>transparent
They try to cheat here by printing the womb tattoo on the dress, but it doesn't line up with the one on her belly when you look up her skirt