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>A video, along with the plans, has recently surfaced showcasing “Project Canard,” an open-source, 3D-printed guided rocket system that recalculates its trajectory mid-air using a $5 sensor and some piano wire
>The entire launcher and interceptor frame are printed in standard PLA and run off an off-the-shelf ESP32 microcontroller.... The system even creates its own local Wi-Fi network, allowing the operator to monitor live telemetry and arm the “MANPADS” (Man-Portable Air-Defense System) prototype from a laptop. It uses a distributed camera node network to triangulate targets and update flight paths in real-time
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/solutions/decentralizing-defense-a-9 6-guided-rocket-just-put-precision- warfare-into-the-hands-of-the-peopl e
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>>64985132
I'm going to build one of these with a horse cock, and program it so that once it flies up, it performs a circle back behind me and shoots the horse cock up my own asshole, and with enough force I spin like sonic the hedgehog in the direction the centrifical force was heading. Lastly, a delayed spring activated release mechanism, upon impact, shoots a giant flag out from the horsecock and through my impaled body cavity, like the joke gun the joker uses, with the word "NIGGER" written on it. So once I'm done tumbling, the flag acts as a javelin that will use my bodyweight to plant itself into the ground with the flagpole sticking through me, and the word "NIGGER" flying graciously in the wind. I just need a time and a place for ultimate keks.
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>>64985207
Glownigger faggots like you said the same things about 3D printed guns. And now we have the FGC-9 and other easily printable at home models which any common pleb with a 3D printer and access to a local home depot, can easily build from scratch.
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>>64985207
Edgy "hackers" and their communities live off of pretending to be relevant so they hype up literally everything even slightly subversive. These are people who watched way too many movies as a kid and believe that Tony Stark builds a tool in a shed that will make governments tremble. (While ignoring real solutions against tyranny like a truck full of ANFO).
It's all just vibes, aesthetics and content farming to get likes from some trannies with anime profile pics.
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Chinese kids were building this stuff 3 years ago.
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Holy kek
The glowniggers absolutely do not like this thread at all. Good going, OP. Today you were not a faggot.
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>>64985306
>building shit like this for decades
LOL no.
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>>64985316
>t.
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>>64985279
Homemade guns and plastic frames/furniture are both things that have been around for forever, combining the two was obvious. This isn't anything like that. GPS command guidance is a nonstarter for hitting a moving target, and his rocket motor isn't even close to viable. By the time he gets this thing able to hit a hovering drone half the time, it will be $1,000+. And by the time he gets 50% hit chance on a moving drone, it will cost $10,000+.
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>>64985132
the problem with these is you dontwant what youre using to stop a fighter or helicopter to be too cheap or it imght not work right, its better to pay alot of money for certainty, the stinger is a sure thing, you fire it youre gonna hit something, this thing, might hit might not, and you cant afford that amount of uncertainty when there is an aircraft wrecking your city with bombs and rockets
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>>64985345
>can't say glownigger so he says glowie instead
GEEEEG
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>>64985182
>/k/ris-chan
no no NO NOT ONE OF US NO
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>>64985334
this. we have a real demand for a cheap solution to have a man portable missile/anti-drone-drone that can lock onto recon drones shasneeds and male drones. but this isnt it.
the sting looks promising. but you would need a hand started fire and forget version
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>>64985132
Why do this weird ass distributed camera wifi nonsense when you could just make a simple beamrider?
It's not ideal but beamrider MANPADS swatting shit in Ukraine right now
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>>64985487
That seems like kind of a stretch goal for a ultra cheap manpad meant to be 3D printed.
Crawl before you run you know.
I'd say something equivalent to an older RBS-70 (though hopefully a lot smaller w/ modern electronics) or red-eye (if it's fire and forget) would be more achievable while also being just capable enough
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>>64985132
Honestly this kind of makes me think there is indeed a point where I would draw the line for what civilians should be allowed to freely own and produce. If this thing were to get some upgrades, you'd have a publicly-accessible set of schematics, assembly instructions, operation instructions, all using common materials that are impossible to pinpoint. These systems would never be able to target US military aircraft, rendering them effectively null for the purposes of the 2nd Amendment, but would be able to target virtually any civilian aircraft at will. It goes beyond simple terrorism - the mere existence of such a system and a single incident would add permanent and irreversible risk to American logistics, which are heavily dependent on air travel. And risk, of course, creates cost and complexity. It would upend many of our customs - how many private helicopters would still be operating nationwide after some schizo shoots down his local news helicopter during a live broadcast?
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>>64985279
As pointed out in the last thread, retard, this is basically just a proof of concept piece for the basic idea and that its claims about actual viability in regards to its performance, material components, and cost are incredibly optimistic while also requiring a massive investment in a static detection system in order to function. No one is saying it doesn't work, they're saying it's not actually a weapon system yet.
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>REEEE GLOWNIGGERS
A quadcopter with fiber wire can kill an Abrams like its an icecream truck and is a fraction of the price and effort
Not even the "guys it will totally work the next decade" meme active kill systems are efective, just park the fucking drone and fly it close to the ground like a mine from hell
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>>64985475
Are you genuinely retarded
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>>64985563
>If this thing were to get some upgrades, you'd have a publicly-accessible set of schematics, assembly instructions, operation instructions, all using common materials that are impossible to pinpoint
My nigga this is america if you want to make a rocket you can already just do that.
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>>64985132
the biggest problem is still going to be getting reliable detonators for the explosive. the rocket motor, warhead, and even the guidance system is probably within the reach of the above average anti social. but commercial blasting caps probably wont cut it and are extremely difficult to obtain anyway
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>>64985182
Put a speaker on it and blast this while you do it.
https://youtu.be/52i14wYBef8?t=46
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>3d printed
Fucking lmaoooooo.
All you need is 1/16th inch/1.5mm cardboard tube. Maybe laminate it with some epoxy if it needs structure support for aero forces.
People make stratosphere sounding rockets for $50 out of cardboard and a motor, and the motor is 80% of the price if we aren't using weak ass "rocket candy"
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>>64985319
Rocket hobbyists have to jump through ridiculous hoops to advance. Their hobby is by far the most internally scrutinized on the planet. They follow a system that is strikingly similar to that of earning a doctorate, and the bars to clear require a lot of money, time, and intelligence. The highest tiers of model rocketry are guys building and launching their own small launchers that can get to space. They don't fuck around, they are hyper autistic, hyper competitive, and often go and start their own rocket companies (or already work for one) at that point. Relativity Space was created by rocket hobbyists who went into finance.
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>>64986105
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Everyone in this thread so far has missed the point. This is a system that uses off the shelf components and 3d printing to work. It's not a custom-made autist project that requires specific knowledge, anyone who can figure out how to print and can turn a wrench can build a MANPADS at home right now.
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>>64986105
Any monkey can build a big rocket.
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>>64986279
A guy from NZ was building Shaheeds in his garage 20 years ago and look where we are now.
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yep you can build super advanced delivery systems surprisingly easy
delivery systems
they still need to deliver something, good luck getting it without having the ATF or delta force put an m4 in your face at 3am while you are sleeping
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>>64986846
Frigate AI cams can identify police activity and wake you with a specific alarm.
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>>64986876
Maybe they should dress like ambulance drivers and doctors.
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>>64986884
if the police were in charge of anti terrorism america would be a part of a caliphate of some islamic country by now
im literally not kidding at all thats how fucking retarded police are, their complete retardedness is only counteracted by competent military intelligence
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Nice entrapment thread, glownigger.
Friendly reminder to all /k/ommandos:
Even thinking about building something like this is a HUGE felony in the US.
It doesn't have to be an actual destructive device with explosive or incendiary components.
ANY part of a guided missile AA system is illegal to possess, or attempt to possess, in the Land of the Free™.
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>>64986901
You are a moron. What moslem country or organization would be interested in adding 300m kuffars to their caliphate? We are decades to centuries of conversion work from anyone in the Islamic world wanting to do anything but kill us, and the glowniggers and military do not protect us from them, geographic isolation and their own retardedness does.
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>>64986939
On a technicality a device like this doesn't apply to the US Code you cited, because as part (a)(1)(A) clearly states:
>an explosive or incindiery,
>rocket or missile
While I'm certain the use of such can be defined by some other section of US code, the one you picked only shows that you fail at the absolute most basic of reading skills.
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>>64987233
THREAD THEME
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4elKwxmCsFA&list=RD4elKwxmCsFA&start_rad io=1&pp=ygUcZWxlY3Ryb25pYyBiYWxsaXN 0aWMgbWlzc2lsZaAHAQ%3D%3D
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>>64987233
The fact that they're calling it a Man Portable Air Defense System, is more than enough to classify this is a weapon system. Even if the individual missile doesn't have a warhead, it's still a guided AA missile. Possessing any part of such a system, or even "planning" on possessing such parts is incredibly illegal.
There's no doubt in my mind that the glowniggers would categorize downloading 3D files for something like this as "planning possession" and pursue criminal charges accordingly.
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>>64985886
Holy shit my dude I guess you weren't around for ParaZite and RogueSci.
I stopped playing around with energetics after spending a whole weekend with my ears ringing, which scared me straight, but blasting caps aren't even hard. There used to be tutorials on youtube about it before Adpocalypse, a fucking arbor press and acrylic blast shield does that shit easily.
If you're worried about reliability use a second detonator as redundancy.
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>>64987660
>tfw have a 3d model of that somewhere on my drive for gooner modding
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>>64987365
>that
>not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKTNWI0eYJ4&list=RDUKTNWI0eYJ4
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>>64985279
>Glownigger faggots like you said the same things about 3D printed guns. And now we have the FGC-9 and other easily printable at home models which any common pleb with a 3D printer and access to a local home depot, can easily build from scratch.
thats nonsense, without gun parts bearig pressure and springs it's a lump of plastic you may as well use an airsoft gun and tubs of plastic wood and stick parts in it. It's good people like you know fuck all
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>>64985279
>FGC-9
without a glock barrel bolt mags etc all you have is a lump of melty plastic and if you have those parts you can make something far better just using a regular drop drill, shop press, files and some wood and a chisel. Tell me how I know you know fuck all about firearms. Then you need ammunition. 3D printed guns are the equivalent of switchblade hysteria, the printed 'part' is the easy bit that could be made of anything. Not just that but melty plastic is just about the dumbest choice of material for that easily made bit. Fuck off and die.
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>>64993486
It includes instructions for making a barrel from tubing. Springs are not a controlled item anywhere in the world.
>>64993501
>glock bolt
Post gun.
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>>64993400
Maybe it works maybe it does not but why the fuck would anyone use such a thing to fire at a traffic helicopter or whatever? Aresholes like you spoil all the fun with your endless do a terror seething crap. Go off to Ukraine and learn to fight before you glorifying randomly killing people. People like you are purile childish gimps who know nothing about killing or even just use of it, you're just wankers. You ever seen what traffic cops have to deal with regularly? Accidents when drunk or dim cunts like you get smeraed into roads or into steering wheels and you wantt to what blow up a traffic helicopter because someone gave you a ticket for being a vegtable? Not even a cop or ever have been but have seen them at accident scenes repeatedly comforting pricks like you as you lie on a road. What a fucking arsehole people like you are. 24/7 sapmming too a terror out, no conception of what killing is or when it needs doing just fucking vomit. A whole war against a mudering Russian dicator going on and you rode it out hiding in a fucking basement like a cunt.
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>>64993515
I've never once posted a gun on demand and never will, that's because I have a lot of very nice guns and they are not and never will be available to spastics like you on demand.
>>64993515
I can make a barrel fine using a shop press, rifle it too. I can also make springs from barstock. Can you? It's not even fucking hard. why the fuck would I stick a nice barrel in a lump of melty plastic cosplay shit. Tell me more about your melty plastic crap. You're everytujing wrong with people standing on the edgle of people who love firearms. Vidya, glawks, bullshit about 3D printing,cosplay guns, lack of knowledge the lot in one seething bullshit do a terror basement dwelling lump of shit.
3d printed guns are utter bullshit as are ponces like you
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>>glock bolt
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>>64993532
is that all you have to perl clutch at? Sthit like >>64993501
>>FGC-9
uses METAL barrels and yes, a metal worked bolt. The pastic part ois irreleventa nd made form teh worst coice of material, melty plastic. The entire 3D printed gunnslop is fucking cancer. If you can (I can) make a barrel and work a bolt why the fuck would you bed it in a melty plastic frame/reciever/stock/magwell. Fucking arseholes.
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>>64993501
>Claims to own nice guns, calls it Glock bolt.
Google translate gave you the wrong terminology ESL-kun
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>>64993535
I can make a bolt yeah you have no answer to what I wrote and are just a dipshit. Most do a terror and muh 3d printer spastics are. It's actually great morons like you ahve been dirverted into something as dumb as 3D printed 'firearms'. Call me back when you can print a barrel, bolt, trigger and mag and actions springs and fireing pins. All you are is worthless noise.
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>>64993541
>t.seething underage dipshit/retard
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>>64993554
Saaar, do not redeem da Glock bolt saaar
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>>64993554
>(yes the FGC-9 has a metal shaped bolt)
You mean this yeah? You can find that yourself, are you a bit thick? You seem to know fuck all.
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>>64993559
Please post your Glock Bolt saaar.
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>>64993559
>Not even bright enough to turn off the cloud spellchecker that logs all your posts here are you dumbass? What a spastic, typical melty plastic retard
>>64993562
>>(yes the FGC-9 has a metal shaped bolt)
>You mean this yeah? You can find that yourself, are you a bit thick? You seem to know fuck all.
Yup.
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>>64993564
Do not redeeeem da Cloud Storage saaar. Do not redeeeem da Glock bolty thing saaar
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Since this retard is tripping over his own words and is clearly just LARPing and backpedaling, the FGC-9 does indeed use a bolt as it's a closed bolt simple blowback style action and not a tilting barrel style action just to be clear.
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>>64993570
convo was about the
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>FGC-9
Dispite your sad attempts to defect. It relies entirely on metal parts to do anything at all.Piss off melty plastic jeet
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>>64993569
Here's your Glock bolt saaar
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>>64993571
Fuck me, (you) are a jeet or some form of sandniggery thing.
>>64993571
>Cloud Storage
capitalised!
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>>64993587
Which Glock did the barrel in >>64993572 come from?
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>>64993583
Please show me in the Glock schematics where's the Glock bolt. Please circle it
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>>64993664
>Since this retard is tripping over his own words and is clearly just LARPing and backpedaling, the FGC-9 does indeed use a bolt as it's a closed bolt simple blowback style action and not a tilting barrel style action just to be clear.
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>>64993501
Bolt can be made from something like a piece of barstock to name numerous alternatives. Barrel can outright be a nice piece of steel tube with a chamber cut into it, which you don't even need to rifle, but it's really not hard to do so (3D printing enables an extremely easy method to make a pretty decent rifled barrel at home).
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>>64995515
I'm aware that it's possible to use a Glock barrel in an FGC-9. The claim was not that it's possible, but that an FGC-9 is just "a lump of melty plastic" without a Glock barrel (and Glock bolt, and Glock magazine).
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>>64998673
Beats me. Ask this retard: >>64993501.
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>>64986939
Isn't it one of those situations where it technically isn't a felony as long as you keep the warhead separate from the rocket just like it technically isn't a felony to own a gatling gun and a rotary motor, separately.
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>>64985132
I saw that video too
It’s not that complex, it’s basically a model rocket motor with a fpv drone flight controller processor in it
They’re is no ordnance and the canards are 3d printed out of PLA so not exactly going to hold up in crazy cross wind
No military applications as an ESP32 is a Chinese made microprocessor
The NDAA compliant one is getting less and less support by teams like ELRS (drone telemetry team) and other hobbies
If you really want to scare soccer moms, slap this thing on a cinewhoop, throw some scrap smoke detectors on it and call it a 3D printed (dirty) nuclear aim9x rocket guided bomb fired from a drone gasp!
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>>65000577
A PVC pipe could be argued as the start of an AA weapon made at home
Realistically this kid is just calling a model rocket toy with a flight controller in it a guided munitions system
It’s not
You guys remember building these balsa wood rockets in elementary school and launching them?
My dad bought me the sr71 blackbird kit
Believe the brand was Estes
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>>64985563
You know the people that own those satellites that you need to receive telemetry data from could like …. Not just let you have that data right?
Your super cool budget anti-air Esp32 micro processor and $50 gps unit controlled rocket will be stuck on retrieving gps data 0/12 satellites connected forever and lose telemetry instantly
“But hurr durr fiber optic ukraine” those are fpv drones that don’t require GPS modules manually controlled flight controller old fashioned esc setups
Saying that though there are probably 2 people in this thread that could fly an fpv drone
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>>65001251
Read the documentation, dipshit.
It’s 2 pieces of round bar stock you JB weld into a housing, plus a few other finishing steps.
I know this is all just trolling, but idk what kind of point people think they’re making when they say it uses non-printed components, as if that says something about it’s bona fides as a DIY gun.
The compelling aspect of the design from a DIY standpoint is it doesn’t require (currently-) regulated parts.
The closest you come to relying on specialized parts are the fire control group components (solvable by buying airsoft versions or using a DIY design) or the barrel stock… several years on since the original FGC-9 was published, it’s safe to assume buying explosion-proof hydraulic tubing from Aliexpress or EBay will get you flagged by whatever .Gov agencies or payment processors keep tabs on gunmaking items.
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>>64985132
Oh hey, I’m working on a submersible robot for college using this kind of tech, the localized wifi using esp32 to connect/disconnect with the mission station for remote activation followed by autonomous performance w/ WiFi torn down before establishing WiFi to transmit data back once it’s returned to the surface. Neat to see this stuff applied to real world scenarios.
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>>64985132
>MANPADS (Man-Ports le Air-Defense System)
I thought Manpads were when you take a shit and don't have time to wipe so you just stuff your asshole with toilet paper and go about your day. Boy was I wrong!
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It's really not that big of a leap, people already do DIY rockets for fun, matter of fact a whole movie was about a kid who made a nozzle that play a huge role in getting to the moon.
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>>65005742
I thought it was soaking tampons in Vodka and sticking it in your bumhole
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>>65001696
You can 3d print some pretty cool shooty stuff if you don’t mind buying some barrels and bolts and bearings.. not sure if this is gonna work, but I’m fucking trying it.
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>>64993400
>poes law
Lurk for a year before you post, or go back
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>>64987452
My point was that on a legal technicality it would be the same as a Murder 1 charge put on someone who acted in self defense. An erroneous legal claim that doesn't fit the actual defined law.
The code cited clearly states
>an explosive/incendiery device which is a rocket/missile
While OP's high school project tier thing is clearly just a kinetic impact projectile, which does not fit our criteria of, relatively compared in legalese definitions,, "murder 1" as compared to "self defense".
This stuff matters. The actual definable circumstance matters in legal situations. To get my point across, the difference is no different than if someone had a permit for organizing a protest outside of a city's hall compared to just forcing in to a city hall and yelling their problems.
OP's device simply does not fit the US code you cited. And you've had 5 days to find a code which it would fit.
>>64991593
>well regated militia
Is legally understood to be, effectively, any and all people of good legal standing (no felonies) who are passably trained in firearm use.
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>>65006635
Is legally understood to be, effectively, any and all people of good legal standing (no felonies) who are passably trained in firearm use.
Yeah, no, it isn't. Not even SCOTUS said that, midwit. Your understanding of constitutional law is about as deep as the tiktok shorts you watch all day. Dumbass.
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>>64993594
Glock has bolt integrated into slide.
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>>64985304
Chinese kids are encouraged by their horrible dictatorship to learn science and do things like this, not like Freedomland where it's illegal and we'll get thrown in the gulag for possessing a STL file or posting a meme saying "Fuck Israel!"
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>>65002174
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_rocket
>Since the early 1960s, a copy of the Model Rocket Safety Code has been provided with most model rocket kits and motors. Despite its inherent association with extremely flammable substances and objects with a pointed tip traveling at high speeds, model rocketry historically has proven[2][3] to be a very safe hobby and has been credited as a significant source of inspiration for children who have eventually become scientists and engineers.[4]
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>>64985182
Kek and they say old k is dead
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This thing in operation works. This is going to change things. Domestic groups are going to be turning this out. Revolutionary groups are going to be turning this out. This is just like cheap fpv drones and non-jammed areas.... Deadly. People up in this fucker don't know because they're ignorant and they choose to remain ignorant from what I see. A downplaying of this is some docker AI bullshit. You can laugh at yourself glow niggers laugh at your 20 docker session.
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>>64986939
I thought the 2nd amendment covered this?
If you're gonna bitch and say no then why is anything that's not a musket allowed too? Don't pick and choose what you can and can't allow when the law clearly dictates it's allowed with the 2nd. Fucking commies.
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>>64985563
Americans won't do shit against their own gov despite the 2nd amendment existing. Otherwise you'd think something would have happened by now with the extreme political climate. Even commies which there are a lot could have done some jurry-rig anti-helicopter drone interceptor by now yet nothing has happened. It's just fearmongering to increase gov overreach
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>>64985132
>anything but get in shape, be able to run a mile within 5 min and get lean aka bodygame
Healthy mind in a healthy body and so on
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>>65006717
Nigger it literally means drilled and in possession of firearms which can all fire roughly the same caliber ball ammo. That was the very definition of a regulated military force at the time. Thus the founders wanted universal possession of firearms, which would provide a market for uniform firearms, which means everybody and the local armory would have similar firearms or the ability to quickly get them.
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>>65063323
> $100 to produce
Look up how much a raspberryPi and a camera costs.
Pro-tip: A RaspPi can't run video processing without a GPU. You can't easily connect a GPU to a RaspPi. You need a Jetson Nano for that, which starts at $500.
Happy to address any delusions you guys have about this.
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The ESP32 doesn't have 802.11w support so you don't even need much to jam it, just deauth packets which you can spam from your own ESP32.
But drones seem to have hacked the ESP32 before to use it as normal radio with far more range and stability, but that is still 2.4Ghz which microwaves can take down casually.
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>>65010513
And none of those rockets had guidance. Not the biggest ones, not the advanced, fast, carbon fiber ones. Those amateur rockets never have guidance.
>>65054322
2nd amendment is such a disappointment. Americans have already threw most of it into trash. They only care about having semi auto guns to fuck around and maybe use in an individual self defense. Only the few obsessed nerds will have night vision or thermals. Beyond that, they have nothing of what makes a relevant militia today. They don’t have machine guns. How are they going to suppress anything? That’s basic. They’re completely cucked by the lack of explosives. Mortars and explosive FPV drones are basic level stuff a militia should have. They don’t have MANPADS either, which is a basic, militia tier anti-air. They should be all legal. Americans… it’s time to fix this.
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>>65069437
“Ukraine front line war footage”
Will show you about how effective small arms fire is in daily combat
If you really cared about the 2nd amendment you’d be arguing for every American to have a Karl gustav recoiless rifle, anti air batteries, thrown ordinance as well as anti personnel mines
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>>65069437
You shouldn't take the bill of rights seriously since fir the better half of the countries history a misfiring gun was legitimately used as a reason to genocide an entire culture. The constitution only applies for those in charge of it and when it's against the powerful it suddenly ceases to exist.
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