whats a good entry level 357 revolver? A buddy of mine recommended a Model 19.

>>65016715

I love my Super Wrangler. Silver cerakote scratched my itch for stainless without the extra price, .22LR is still cheap even in my shitty ban state, and .22 WMR out of a 5.5" barrel gives enough energy that if I got stuck using it for HD I wouldn't be too offput (it's about equal to .380 ACP FMJ out of a 2" pocket pistol).

>>65016715
i have such an itch for a burnt bronze wrangler with the birds head grip. i entered a raffle to win one along with a golden boy, the drawing is in may wish me luck bros.

Does anyone currently make blued:
Short 6 shot revolvers.
5 shot 357
?

>>65016760
it's yours

>>65016738
19s are OK with .38 +Ps and occasional .357s
Try Ruger GP100. Heavier build.

>>65016971
> 5 shot 357
Taurus 650 is good, but a bit heavy for daily carry unless you spend the money for a high quality holster.
The stock grips are OK, but the old model 85 slab-side boot grips seem to soak up recoil better in my hands. Still available on eBay, like $25? Simple screwdriver surgery.

>>65017561
>Blued

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>>65016738
My first pistol was a model 19 4 inch blued. Built in the 70s police trade in. Very nice gun i wouldn't go as far as to call them delicate but they are essentially a 38 special with a heavy barrel chamberd for .357 and if hypothetically you ran nothing but 357 thru it the gun will eventually fail.
That being said I have ran alot more magnum thru it then i maybe should have hell even some buffalo bore. and mine looks and functions fine but I now stick to 38s for target shooting and 38+P and standard pressure 357mag for animal control. Still got it still use it 13 years now

I want a .357 mag for carry but I really don't want to spend much (like to keep it around 500) are the rossi rp63 revolvers any good? How do they compare to charter/tarus?

>>65018325
Is that the 45 acp/lc redhawk? How do you like it? I've been eyeing them for a while now.

>>65016715
Grip didnt feel to different when I fingerbanged one at a gun store. For my money I'd rather get a Super Wrangler and have the better sights and .22 mag capability.

>>65018325
How do you like that birds head wrangler?

>>65018418
If you look around a bit you can find a used sp101 for about $500.

>>65018727
I'm seeing them for like 550, I could do that

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>>65018426
I do like it, the problem i found is the when shooting 45 auto it has to be sighted in again. I found 45 win mag works in it as does 460 rowland. And anything short of hot 45 colt feels tame
Buy one see what happens to you.
>>65018722
Its fun but it was part of a buy one get one deal. I'd rather have a longer barrel desu.
Any you fuck with 327 or 32 mag?

>>65016738

I got a S&W Model 66. Works for me.

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How bad are Charter Arms Bulldog revolvers?

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Snagged these 2 Vaqueros this week. how come no one told me cowboy guns were so much fun

I really want a Colt cap and ball revolver or two but everywhere I look Uberti and Pietta both still appear to have issues with their 1851s and 1860s. And used guns are even more hit and miss. However Uberti Remington 1858 should be allright. It just looks bulky to me and I have no way to test shoot one. Any experiences or advice here? Going to shoot cowboy action with it here in yurop

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Thoughts on the S&W Ultimate Carry in .32 H&R? I read the quality control is really bad, but was wondering if they fixed that by now.

>>65022646
>Any you fuck with 327 or 32 mag?
That would be me. I have 3 revolvers and a Henry chambered in it.

>>65022646
Cool I was planning on mostly shooting 45 colt through it anyway

>>65026627
I never got into colt repros, but I have three .44 Pietta 1858s and an Uberti 1875 all of which work great.

Dragoon or Walker?

>>65026677
Just get the S&W 642 PC in .38spl and call it a day.

Heritage is better for the four clicks

>>65027092
hmmm. Well at least the 1858 remains an option both in .44 and .36

>poorfag general

>>65016715
What's the most sci fi looking revolver I can buy? Even if it sucks

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>>65028457

The Pietta Ace looks neat, but is is it more worth it to get a Pietta Sheriff instead for the loading lever? Having to pay for an extra loading tool doesn't sound great

>>65029619
I have two Sheriffs, they're great.

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My friend just bought his first gun, feeling proud

how valuable is my grand pappys 22 revolver
it's got a interchangable cylinder for 22mag and lr
probably some fuckin sears and robuck special from the 80s, probably has less than 200 rounds through it

>>65027533
this

>>65030566
you can probably get a nickel and a piece of chewing gum out of it

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>>65028457
Just get any revolver you like and glue some doodads on it like they do in Hollywood.

>>65016715
My shooting buddy had that exact gun and I got to fire about 30 shots thru it the day we went. Also shot a .357 Redhawk (snubnose version). It was the first time I had fired any revolvers at all, so I can easily compare it in my mind and remember it well. I couldn't tell you about value as I have no idea, neither gun was mine. I loved the .22 though, it is an excellent little plinker and very easy to use and/or teach a new shooter the basics of revolvers.

>>65018418
Charter Arms. Don't bother with new S&Ws' shambolic QC.

>>65016738
ruger gp100

>>65031618
>Charter Arms
Felt it should be said that Charter Arms also doesn't have great QC. The cylinders sometime get stuck and need to be hit with a mallet to release. Brass also gets stuck right after shooting, and can be a pain to eject. The ejection rod caps are always coming loose (inb4 loctite).
I myself have an Undercover, it's complete shit.

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>>65016971
Diamondback makes a 6-shot, .357, 2” snub called the SDR. Comes in stainless or black nitride. Blued is hard to find these days.
https://diamondbackfirearms.com/shop/sdr-2-357-mag-38-spl-p-black-nitride/

>>65028295
>seething that he can't afford 1k revolver

>>65033548
Revolvers usually cost more than semi auto pistols, not sure what he’s talking about. Bad bait

>>65016760
It's going to one of the event organizer's brother in laws, buddy. Same as every other raffle in the history of mankind.

>>65033936
Hey, I'll have you know raffles have come a long way. It could be the event organizer's sister in law or co-worker these days.

>>65030566
Does it look like an old school cowboy gun but still has a crane and swing out cylinder? If yes and it’s a nine shot then it’s likely a high standard double nine… especially if it has a faux ejector rod that actually releases the cylinder…. While not terribly valuable they are in fact a really nice 22…. Diamondback copied them with their sidekick by subbing out pot metal for the real stuff… :(

>>65034555
it's a damn saa 22, the cylinder just has an axle that's sprung into place

>>65027533
Just got a 642 pc and it’s great. Fun to shoot and trigger is way nicer than stock.

>>65027533
>>65034929
>trigger is way nicer than stock

The wife's edc for years had been as 637 until she tried the 642 Performance Center and I do agree the trigger is definitely nicer. The 637 is back at the same LGS we bought it used from.

Standard grips or checkered grips?

>>65027438
Dragoon. They were more common and did more things.

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>>65016715
If any of you anons are considering a Wrangler, just hold off for a month or two and get enough extra money to go for a Single Six instead.
I just got one a few months back, and it's fucking sexo.

>>65038832

Super Wrangler is basically the same thing, but cerakoted instead of blued. And about the same price as a regular Wrangler too.

Thoughts on an older Interarms import Rossi Model 94? I can’t find hardly any info about them online. They were apparently imported in the mid-late 1980s. 4” barrel with a fell underlug, 6 shot .38 special with wood grips. Basically a K frame with a full underlug. It’s in near mint shape with a tiny bit of finish wear on the barrel but no wear or fouling in the barrel or cylinder and zero wear on the extractor star or the arm that rotates it. Local seller wants $280 and for a near mint cheap K frame ish from the golden age of Brazilian made S&W knockoffs it just seems like it’d be a fun little shooter. I sold all my revolvers with less than a 5” barrel years ago but I’ve been toying with the idea of another 4” K frame and then this thing pops up. For $280 what’s there to lose?

How well do Pietta and Uberti barrels hold up to cheap, jacketed ammo? Is there a significant difference in durability between blued and stainless barrels?

for a model 10 from the 60's or 70's I think
>whats the spiciest load I can run through this thing?

pencil barrel. just your average model 10 from more than half a century ago.
+P is out?
so what would you actually put in there beside FMJ .38 range ammo? am I just restricted to using range ammo or is there somehting more exotic this thing can handle?

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>>65026943
What revolvers do you have in 327? what's your favorite to least favorite?
Do you find any of the shorter caliber work worse? because i have.
And not a question but a statement
I really wish ruger would do another run of these 8 shot Blackhawks

is the trr8 a meme or is it actually good?

>>65046398
>What revolvers do you have in 327?

Talk about dumb af
327 isn't even good as a boutique offering
Other than 22, 357, 38, 44, 45LC and 500 there are NO calibers worth it
Even 45 and 9 are stupid in a revolver
Fuck does ever nu-/k/ suck

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>>65046898
Listen... nigger
I always dismissed 327 thinking why bother when 357 exists. But then I shot it and experimented with it and I learned really quick why it was not a dead round.
More company's are making guns chamberd in it then ever. Even if I didnt root for it I can't deny its getting more common. I can always find it at the big box stores. S&w might be doing a new run of model 16 with a + on it. I understand there has to.be an echo system of calibers but I will be dawned if 327 gets the 41 magnum treatment

Hopefully pic related is next

>>65046943
Anon might be the negro but you are the cancer that is nu/k/

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does this count

>>65028852
Hnnnggggg

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>Your six shots are up!

Who is going to tell him?

>>65051248
it was a revolver in the book

Stainless or blued?

>>65046898
>>65050339
what are you doing?

I accidentally bought a 50 caliber shell holder because I'm retarded. I don't own a 50
https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/magnum-research-bfr-500-jrh-55in-stainless-revolver-5-rounds/p/1823345
Or should I go with something else?

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Seeing OPs pic made me remember my photoshop of my dream rough rider I need Heritage to make
>9 shot cylinder
>Birds head grip
>Shortest barrel that still has an ejector rod
>Adjustable sights
I want the smallest model that holds the most ammo that has the most functionality, and for some reason they do not make this even though they make all the parts for it

>>65052723
>Rough rider
>functionality

>>65050572
dangerously based

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Favorite .357 defensive ammo for 2 legged creatures?

>>65058493
Speer Gold dots.

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Now, everyone have their own favourites, but what revolver would you consider to be "The best service weapon"? Think like a police revolver, used against randomly encountered thungs and creeps.

It's not meant to be a battlefield weapon, nor a weapon used in police raids. Just a sidearm for daily carry for if/when shit hits the fan. And as police work goes, each shot should be aimed and considered to bring the assailant down without killing them (so that they can go on trial) but if needed also effective enough to just waste them with one shot. But simply simply mag-dumping into general direction of the creep should be avoided. Revolver seems to fit the bill.

Now, I would demand a few things from such a weapon. First, it should have sling-out cylinder so it can use speed loaders. Second, a protection for the ejector rod to prevent it bending (I know that bending is rare, but nonetheless). Third, a transfer bar to make sure that it will fire only when the trigger is fully pulled.
As for how the cylinder is freed, well that doesn't really matter, as it's an issue of "as long as the officers are trained in it's proper use". But I would personally prefer push-in buttons over slide-forwards bars.
The barrel should not be too short nor too long. A 3½-to-4 incher should service decently.

Out of this all, I recon I'd go for a Ruger GP-100 or maybe Colt Python?
What are your thoughts/opinions of revolvers as service weapons?

>>65059291
Both of those choices are a little on the heavy side.
I’d sooner go with the model 19.

>>65059291
You want a Ruger GP100 then.

>>65059298
Model 19 is too fragile.

>>65059298
Sorry, I am not too familiar with Model 19. Does it have a transfer bar?

>>65059291
While I have always like Colts, I've never thought the Python is a good combat design specifically because of the stupid cylinder release requiring the shooter to PULL it toward them. Any KLN frame Smith is a solid choice, if you've got deep pockets and Ruger GPs are good if you're broke.

>>65059309
No Smith and Wessons truly do, but it’s a hammer block and does the same thing.

>>65059298
Nonsense.

>>65058553
+1

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>>65059302
>too fragile
Spoken like a true gasbag
You confidently just toss aside nearly 40 years of continuous law enforcement, military, and government security use of what was originally called the fucking Combat Magnum model pistol as "too fragile". Congratulations on winning dumbest take of the week on a board crammed with stupid takes.

>>65027533
This but a 640 so it's actually nice to shoot.

>>65059438
Don’t be mad that your favorite .38spl that can occasionally chamber .357 mag is a weak and insufficient design for shooting modern loads, you want a .357, you buy one, not a gun that can occasionally take it, maybe, as long as the load isn’t too heavy or the grain weight isn’t just right or you’ll crack your forcing cone, like in a Model 19.

>>65059481
NTA but what was driving the model 19 fragility? Was it a metallurgy thing, or was the frame just barely too small? Did they ever fix it?

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>>65059672
K frames always had a little bit of the bottem of the barrel shaved off, but when they changed how the gas ring they had to shave even more off, to the degree that it could no longer handle the gas erosion of low weight .357 loads. I don't want to be like "DONT USE A MODEL 19 THEY WILL EXPLODE" but sadly there very much is a real reason as to why the L frame needed to be built, very good write up on the whole story here https://revolverguy.com/the-smith-wesson-l-frame-story/

>>65059291
GP100, Python, or 686 would all be good choices. All with ~4" barrel. I agree that how the cylinder is freed really isn't important as long as the user is trained in its proper use.

>What are your thoughts/opinions of revolvers as service weapons?
I like the idea for all the reasons you laid out in your post. It's just not feasible when you consider what american cops actually have to deal with (aspiring astronauts carrying blicky wit da switch)

>>65059678
Thanks anon!

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>>65059678(me)
What is weird about all this is that they just kept making k frames. Something like a 686 Mountain Gun is 1 ounce lighter than a Model 19, barely bigger than it, yet much much tougher. So lighter than almost every other L frame but stronger than every K frame. A gun like this should really be the default like all steel fighting/belt .357

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>>65059481
>confident moron
Next time you want to talk nonsense about Smith and Wesson revolvers, it might do you some good to not do it around people who actually own them, dumbass.

>>65059709(me)(again)
Actually looking at what Mith still produces, not counting commemorates the K frame is basically just .357s. Where the k frame could actually thrive is in its roots as a 38 platform. Something like a modernized Model 12 would be pretty cool I think. Full three finger grip, 6 shot cylinder of .38+P, alloy frame making it sub 20oz. Give it a 3 inch barrel and some decent night sights, basically a Taurus 856 Defender UltraLite but with a brand people (used to) trust printed on it. Kinda like how the Ultimate Carry .32 is taking the J frame back to its I frame 32 roots but with as much modern input as possible on it, just for the K frame

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>>65059737
They made the Model 315 for a few years in the early 2000s. Also a 3" Model 13 with the current updates would be a great carry gun too.

>>65059733
>Hurr durr look at my never fired safe queen it’s so tough

Call me when you get a real .357 like a Ruger, Colt or any other brand really.

>brand loyalty
>in the year 2025+1

>>65060436
>Never been fired
LOL I've taken 3 mule deer with that pistol. That's a Model 57 Presentation Grade I've had since 1986, you utterly retarded dipshit. There are other Smiths in the safe, that one just happened to be in the drawer next me. Do yourself a favor and try real hard not to be such an insufferable turd.

Whats funny about this guy is K Frame .357s ARE weaker than Pythons/GP100s/L Frames but to the degree that only really matters if you are like a guy who is constantly shooting full power high velocity loads through them. Unless your job is shooting the same K Frame in full power all the time, like it was for competition and police guys in the late 70s when they started breaking, you are probably fine with a K Frame. If you actually are doing like GIGN 200 full power rounds a day shooting, then yeah don't do that with an old K Frame. Again you can read the link up here >>65059678 Usually proving a link that explains the problem you are pointing out is better than just "kek Smithfag btfo'd by the Ruger Chad Six" posting over and over. Now we just gotta wait for the fagnus guy to show up and itll be a real party

>>65060870
>Only a problem with a zillion hot mag loads
Exactly correct. Only dumbasses were doing that back then, fucking around with extreme pressure mag reloads in volume, and only dumbasses would do that now. There was never anything "fragile" about that weapon. The failures were all down to idiots abusing it.

>>65060898
Well no, it was a real problem for police and competition shooters who did need to put in the training with full power defensive ammo. Like I said the link goes into the issue of it being a perfect storm of gasses from high velocity ammo, the now thinner forcing cone, and the increased round count. All this stuff is perfectly fine to do on a Python or a Ruger in the 70s, there was no reason to expect Model 19s and 66s to start cracking the way they did in this perfect storm. Like these were people who knew what they were doing hitting a problem they never had before due to 3 separate elements

>>65059291
Best would be a Manurhin MR-73. They have been used as beat cop guns, and they took a beating doing it too. Still, amazing shooters that run forever. A 4" MR-73 with Trausch grips would be my choice 10 days out of the week if possible.

Barring that, Ruger Security Six, GP100, Colt Trooper. I even have an old Colt Official Police .38spl from 1943 that still locks up like a bank vault and shoots great. I'm not as big on S&Ws, but an old Mod.10, 19 or 28 wouldn't do me wrong either.

>>65059291
>each shot should be aimed and considered to bring the assailant down without killing them
What?

>>65060909
Well, no. Every single example of this issue that's been documented was overuse of overpressure mag ammunition. Cops "training" with thousands of hot .357 was a moron thing prompted by Dirty Harry movies back then and it was utterly stupid. Anybody with any sense trained with .38s, shot spec .357 enough be ready for it, and loaded spec .357 for duty use, which was entirely within the design parameters for that pistol. Yes, the heavier frame pistols can take more punishment. Those designs were largely the result of dumbasses abusing a pistol with the novelty of MOAR MAGNUM is better!!

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>>65052230
I’d be tempted to recommend the long cylinder model… 500 JRH is essentially just 500 special. The full long cylinder BFR can take 500 mag as well as 500 JRH… the short cylinder ones can’t… and if we’re being honest the easiest source of brass for 500 JRH is probably just shooting 500 mag and cutting the casings down….

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So I finished this 686 mountain gun. I had to have smith and wesson fix a few things on it as centering a one piece barrel is semi lost knowledge to them. Also if you get one make sure it has the tall rear sights otherwise you wont get the thing to shoot flat. Otherwise I also had the performance center trigger work done and replaced the wood grips with the 500 grips as they fit the same frame.

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>>65060942
in a police revolver. The purpose of the police is to incapacitate the creep so he can be brought to the court of law and be properly sentenced. The Police is not a death-squad.

This is basic stuff outside USA. The police should use minimal force to subdue the suspect, and then let the court handle the sentencing. American "Just mag-dump at the creep" style of "policing" is an abnormality in a civilized world.

>>65061962
And now the criminal (read: migrant) sues the police for maiming him and gets a pay out, because you live in a high trust society that imported low trust society military aged males to make number go up.

Is it stupid to get into big bore revolvers (i.e. 44 mag) if you are already working on a flinch and aren't particularly strong?

Could it be an opportunity to fix the bad habits, or is this just cope and I'll be ingraining them further?

>>65061962
In the USA, if the police fire their gun on someone without intent to kill they can and will be punished. Guns are considered lethal weapons and using a gun in a non lethal way is considered an excessive use of force regardless of intent.

>>65062310
>intent to kill
No, the intention must be to stop a deadly threat that a reasonable person/officer can articulate. I think it's an important distinction. That the way they shoot to stop a threat is also likely to kill the threat is incidental.

>>65061962
You should be mag-dumped by a death squad turdie

>>65016738
Gp100 or security 6.

Is it possible to CC a 3 inch LCR if I swap the longer grip for the shorter one?

>>65062284
It can work. .44 special feels like nothing out of a .44 magnum. You could do the same with a large .357 magnum and save money on ammo.

>>65066036
thought about doing this, .357 is a beautiful caliber

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Anyone know what holster will fit a Manurhin MR88? Particularly the 4" version?

>>65030510

Is your friend a hard-boiled private eye that takes cases from leggy dames?

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Time to order all the bp loading things.

Is there a point to a .357 snubbie, or does the barrel length eliminate any ballistic gain? I really like carrying and shooting my .38 j-frame and a version in a more powerful cartridge sounds fun.

>>65072262
.357 will always be more powerful than .38 for a given barrel length. The question is by how much, which depends on barrel length. For longer barrels, the difference is greater since .357 has much more powder to burn and a longer barrel allows for a more complete burn of that powder.

Out of a 2" barrel, for comparable projectile weights, .357 will have a velocity ~150-200 fps more than .38, based on this data:
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/revolver-velocity-vs-barrel-length/

That much velocity difference is pretty substantial in a handgun, but you do pay a price for it. .357 out of a snub is not very fun to shoot imo. Most shooters will be significantly less accurate with .357 at say 7yds due to flinching, but at punching distance you're left only with the ballistic advantage and no real disadvantage. Up to you big dawg.

>>65069112
The MR88 is basically the same thing as a Ruger Redhawk; the Redhawk holster fits.

>>65071139
Nice Navy

>>65058493
>.357 defensive ammo
Hand load 125gr XTPs on top of 15 grains of 2400 powder.