>>65067220
They still use them their production is still very low. That can reach most things with their drones anyways

>>65067220
yeah they are firing them constantly, they've replaced the old school "cessna with a bomb" long range drones

>>65067410
>the old school "cessna with a bomb" long range drones
Didn't we get video of one of those things hitting that oil terminal in the Baltic two weeks ago?

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>>65067220
cheap drones became more expensive drones

>>65067220
Yes, because sometimes a 100kg is not enough explosives for the job. FP-7 enters production next, followed by FP-9.

>>65067220
Ziggers managed to hit the factory which slowed things down

>>65067962
Proven to be fake

>>65067979
Cope

>They don't work, they're not used and also we destroyed them all
Lol, Russian shills never update the script, do they?

>>65070283
Pokrovsk holds

>>65067227
What about the Sapsan/Hrim 2 and Palianytsia?

>>65073073
Hell what happen to the Trembita?

>>65073079
Trembita is almost 100% been confirmed abandoned at this point. During Zelensky's anniversary speech he listed all their drones and missiles and Trembita was conveniently left pit again. It's dead as fuck. Maybe the heat from the pulsejet attracted too much attention from SAMs. At the very least it is having issues reaching mass production compared to the other drone missiles or the infrastructure for making them got bombed pretty hard

Ignoring the numerous jet and propeller drones like FP-1 and Liutyi, Ukraine has
>Long Neptune
>Sapsan
>Paliyanytsia
>Ruta
>Peklo
>Bars
>FP-5 Flamingo
>FP-7 (no name yet)
>FP-9 Pelican

>>65067835
Is this a drone or a cruise missle

>>65073345
All kamikaze drones are missiles. Even FPVs are missiles

>>65073338
>Maybe the heat from the pulsejet attracted too much attention from SAMs.
Pulsejets are very inefficient unless you build them in a rather specific way, which unfortunately negates the #1 advantage of pulsejets (their simplicity).

>>65067220
unless they can produce them cheaper than geran 5 then no its not even a game changer

>>65073073
>What about the Sapsan/Hrim 2
Issue with getting solid fuel rocket engines into production within the old MIC. There was activity of solving that in Pavlohrad's chemical factory more than a decade ago, but FSB plants within SBU fucked over that with bullshit criminal cases and all that. And now things are harder because of RU missile attacks. AFAIK a stopgap solution is to use the material from retired soviet ICBM engines.
P.S: hence why FirePoint chose to get their own process and line for this outside of Ukraine in Denmark for FP-7 and FP-9.

>>65073880
You are retarded

>>65073880
Different use cases. FP-1 is for saturating air defenses, FP-5 is for big targets.

>>65074175
lol
>>65074385
not at all only an idiot will think that a """""""claimed"""""" 1600km drone is made for saturation attacks

>>65076847
You're wrong on both cases.

1. The range doesn't mean shit, it's not an indicator or being used for saturation or not, because AA doesn't just exist on the border. It makes sense to send small drones along with a large missile so that AA is busy trying to shoot down the drones while a missile with a fuck ton warhead hit the factory. Not all targets are soft refinery or fuel bases which can get fucked up by a single or couple drones.

2. A fucking big cruise missile doesn't need to be cheaper than a Sheeit drone, they are different weapons for different use cases.

>claimed
we've seen attacks over a thousand klicks into russia, so...

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>>65073880
Eh, jet Shaheds are slow and frail enough to regularly be intercepted by even cheaper drones. It isn't clear that the FP-5 would be as vulnerable, so that comparison is a bit dubious, even ignoring the obvious payload differences.
>>65076847
The Ukhtaneftepererabotka Lukoil refinery is the farthest target hit by an FP-1.
It is over 1,600 km from Ukraine.

>>65076867
>The range doesn't mean shit,

ah yes look at all those subtactical cruise missiles with huge ass ranges that acts as dumb drones

oh wait said nobody ever

>>65076873
My brown friend, the cost and payload is orders of magnitude different, take that into account

>>65078270
my yellow friend according to what the ukranians say the payload is at 120kg
exactly the same as tomahawk

>>65078321
1. Tomahawk basically can't be intercepted by RU air defense and also has great precision. While drones can be intercepted and precision while good isn't great.
2. Tomahawk payload is over 400 kg, you comparing apples (raw payload) to oranges (amount of explosives).
3. Flamingo isn't as precise or as hard to shoot down as a Tomahawk, thus to get the most effect from its fuck ton warhead you need to make sure it actually hits the target, which includes among other things saturating the AA.

>>65078461
>Tomahawk basically can't be intercepted by RU air defense and also has great precision.
we know for a fact that they have intercepted storm shadows before so unless you wannt pretend that tomahawks are more advanced be my guest and provide evidence
>Tomahawk payload is over 400 kg
the fuck are you talking about idiot the actual warhead is 120kg
>Flamingo isn't as precise or as hard to shoot down as a Tomahawk,
i love your confidence on the level of your knowledge

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>>65067220
>Are these used
yes

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>>65078676
>we know for a fact that they have intercepted storm shadows before
Is there footage? No? Then go fuck yourself with "we know".

>the fuck are you talking about
Consider picrel, retard.

>i love your confidence on the level of your knowledge
We have footage of successful attacks with that missile, retardio.

>>65074173
>AFAIK a stopgap solution is to use the material from retired soviet ICBM engines.
Unfortunately, that plan went up in smoke (literally) back in 2023, when Russians attacked the landfills where old Soviet ICBMs got dumped.

>>65078720
Be fair. Kreminny El visibly intercepted a couple Storm Shadows.

>>65078732
Kek

>>65078724
Probably not all of them, since there were test launched on ruslim targets back in 2024 and low scale manufacturing and usage in 2025, i.e. some of them are made and since there's no industrial level full scale production of the solid rocket fuel that would mean that the small scale is most likely the refurbishing of the solid fuel from those discarded ICBMs.