>>65070225
Fpv drone with EFP and remove detonation counter all this shit

Looks like a potato you forgot about in a cupboard for half a year

It feels like ERA would work just fine against the current crop of FPV drones.

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Not much use against fpv

>>65070236
>Slav tank is potato
Pottery.

Now the Latvian potato jokes are even more grim, however.

>>65070225
>this is fine

>>65070232
Honestly any form of standoff detonation that doesn't rely on contact would do the job on its own. Even a shitty RPG warhead maintains a substantial amount of penetration capability at several meters of standoff, which is adequate when it is being used to hit armoured vehicles in the rear or top.

Throwing EFP on top of that would mean that even traditional APS might not have the range to protect armoured vehicles, given that some purpose built EFPs can hit targets dozens of meters away from the point of detonation.

>>65070225
It'll depend how the arms race plays out.
If something like CROWs can be given a very high rate of intercept there is no need to cages.
If drones keep getting faster and / or more erratic in the terminal phase and intercept rates remain low the cage will stay.

Given how good and cheap accelerometers and solid state gyros are I think we'll see extremly erratic terminal phases become the norm for autonomous drones eventually.

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>>65070647
It falls off pretty quick for HEAT but EFP can be much further away.

bump

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>>65070225
Why don't we just stop using tanks and switch to earth submarines? Just like in the movie The Core where they drill underground, just do that with a submarine and have it only come up when it needs to fire rockets.
Why has no one thought of this idea? You can't be bombed by a drone if you're underground.

>>65070225
Every tank will get a laser defense system in the future.

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>>65070236
>a potato you forgot about
>forgot
War Crime

>>65070225
Why didn't they weld the barn onto turret?
>>65073069
You mean multipurpose laser weapon system right?

>>65070225
cope cages are only there to compensate for the lack of countermeasures of existing tank designs. even though they help against drones, it's nowhere near enough to justify the cost of a tank. so unless an effective countermeasure is developed, cope cages will disappear together with tanks

>>65071326
>Logarithmic X axis
grim.

>>65070225
Bit of both.
Cope cages will stick around for a while simply by virtue of being cope. Any force incapable of reducing the threat from top attack munitions ad drones will obviously rely on cope cages.
Everyone else will use stuff like aps, attached shorad, EW etc. to minimize the threat.

>>65073554
If you can read numbers it works fine, better than 40 slightly different pen depths.

>>65070225
Probably not, people got to remember the cuck shed armour was brought in to try and help against top attack ATM's like the NLAW and Javelin. It didn't work of course but maybe there was some motivation to 'do something' at the time. It does work to some extent against drones when you've got light armour and need to keep stuff off the at-risk areas like engine decks and hatches, intakes, exhausts and so on.
All that seems to have done though is finding a bigger drone with a fucking massive explosive on it

>>65070236
Its what happens to tanks after you leave them in a dark hole like russia for 50 years

>>65070232
Two drones or two warheads on one drone separated by a rod and on a time delay. First warhead blows a hole in the cage. Second one goes thru the hole.

>>65073554
>logarithmic
Don't complain. How else would the retard support his bizarre claim that "It falls off pretty quick" if he can't fiddle the chart?

>>65073067
anduril and others are working on this

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>>65070236
This also kills russians, sadly

>>65070245
does it?

Russians use drones right. (Dont have a hyperlink)

Green text on bottom is right. Like a quest (quest text?) **


الله أكبر
>Russia is neutral (is that bad ANSWER ME)
>روسيا لم ترتكب أي خطأ.
>Nothing

I guess true neutral is good. So Russians are good. *

Sorry and Forgive

Hope we can continue the thread

Russians do drones right. Sorry no hyperlink

Why aren't my posts showing up

>>65074135
Ok you pissed me off enough to respond.

Original claim >>65070647
>Even a shitty RPG warhead maintains a substantial amount of penetration capability at several meters of standoff
>several meters of standoff

My response >>65071326
Shows a charge optimized for 60cm of standoff has it's penetration halved at 1.2 meters and cut to a quarter at 2.4 meters.

Please be less retarded in future.

>>65079559
You do realize that the rear and especially top of of armoured vehicles usually only have a few cm of RHA equivalent armour at most, right? A quarter of the penetration compared to its optimal standoff distance is still wildly excessive for those kinds of targets, and even your chart shows that such warheads would easily penetrate such armour out to 2-4 meters standoff.

>>65079568
Yes you could pen the roof, that said an EFP is much better for the job.

whats your "proper countermeasure" that isn't destroyed by any enemy fire

All the bullshit the west likes to mount on vehicles don't last long when you get randomly sniped/droned

>>65079579
CROWs with IRST is probably the best option, sure it will be damaged by small arms but they aren't the primary threat 20km form the front.
Anything that lets a MBT close to cannon range lets it do it's job.

>>65075543
>deadly gas caused by rotting potatoes
what the fuck

>>65080351
>>65075543
the belarusian peeler strikes again

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>>65079579

>>65080351
Glycoalkaloids, it happens when the potatoes are stored in a poorly ventilated area (for example, outside or storage that have limit space). Despite this, the poison gas shouldn't be dangerous enough to kill the entire family, but rather something that spread quickly like carbon dioxide
https://www.cultivariable.com/rotting-potato-gas-dangers-myth-or-reality/
My theory is that this entire family was murdered or something else happened